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Fix A Computer Power Supply! 

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@MrCarlsonsLab
@MrCarlsonsLab 3 года назад
To learn electronics in a very different and effective way, and gain access to Mr Carlson's personal designs and inventions, visit the Mr Carlson's Lab Patreon page here: www.patreon.com/MrCarlsonsLab
@WingKing-xl7iw
@WingKing-xl7iw 3 года назад
Paul, would you mind sharing what two lubricants you used for this project? I've been tinkering with PC's now for a couple years. After a failed attempt at recapping a motherboard last year (too tedious and ambitious), I am now working my way up to refurbishing a couple old stock power supplies I have sitting on the shelf. This would definitely help. Thank you!
@1ytcommenter
@1ytcommenter 3 года назад
@@WingKing-xl7iw i agree. would be nice.
@JohnJeiJei
@JohnJeiJei 3 года назад
I feel so bad when i think back to how much stuff i threw away because i had no idea how easy it was to fix.. I second, third and fourth the other commenters: please give us the magic recipe of what kind of lubricant combo would work for such delicate (and rather high rpm, for the size) pieces! Also taking a chance to thank you for the quality of your videos, and all the knowledge you share.
@mickgibson370
@mickgibson370 3 года назад
I use lithium chain lube in a can. I comes out 0 weight and then 90 weight. It is good in keeping c-motors fans lubed!
@Arcona
@Arcona 3 года назад
@@WingKing-xl7iw Tiny bit of lithium grease works well.
@lisandro3614
@lisandro3614 3 года назад
I know this wasn't much of a challenge, probably even boring for you, but I'd love to see some ATX PSU repair guidelines from you in the future. On almost every forum, everytime someone asks about a failure or problem on an ATX PSU, the rest says «just toss it, it's too dangerous», «don't touch it», «it's not worth it», and so on. Thank you, as always.
@gorjy9610
@gorjy9610 3 года назад
in old times (when people start telling stuff like that) it was quite easy to repair most of them, rarely anything other than diodes or switching transistors failed and even if problem was controller there were maybe three types of them on market. Today it can be tricky, lot of different parts, specialized ICs..."not worth it" never had more sense. Still, as youtube video material I agree that it would be interesting to watch, area not many people cover.
@crozhon
@crozhon 3 года назад
Completely agree. Lots of waste in computer parts in general.
@mauricewalshe8234
@mauricewalshe8234 3 года назад
@@gorjy9610 and you do want to make sure that the repaired psu is working to spec you don't want a repaired PSU taking out the MB/CPU or a graphics card
@DielectricVideos
@DielectricVideos 3 года назад
​@@gorjy9610 I had a newer PSU fail with a blown snubber capacitor on the switching MOSFET. Since the value of the capacitor was burned off, I found the datasheet for the driver IC and looked at the typical application. It turns out the PSU manufacturer had completely omitted the snubber resistor and diode, opting to just put the capacitor across the drain and source of the FET directly. I "updated" the board design with the actual typical application circuit, and the PSU ran cooler than it ever had, even when new!
@JoneKone
@JoneKone 3 года назад
Yeah :( It is so sad how many ppl while upgrading their computers just buy a new PSU and drow the old one away. I worked in SER Recycling center and every day there where 750w+ power supplies "found". So many RGP controllers adding to the silicon shortage. And PSU shortage.
@Evergreen64
@Evergreen64 3 года назад
Considering the state of the fan, you might tell you friend to clean the computer out too.
@bobvines00
@bobvines00 3 года назад
I bet there's a good chance that the friend's computer sits on the floor, sucking up dust.
@derpydog1008
@derpydog1008 3 года назад
probably sits the pc on carpet.
@swinnburn
@swinnburn 3 года назад
That's dead dander lots of dead dander😆
@angrydove4067
@angrydove4067 3 года назад
You can try and tell them but will they listen?
@nexaentertainment2764
@nexaentertainment2764 3 года назад
Definitely. What's more interesting is that this isn't generally a psu that OEMs would use (the make and wattage both), indicating that his friend has a custom PC of sorts (whether bought through an SI or built themselves). I'm surprised they let it get this disgustingly dusty when presumably they have at least some interest in performance PCs.
@Andreas_Wild
@Andreas_Wild 3 года назад
„We fix the actual problem, we didn‘t replace it.“ That‘s what it‘s all about. 👍🏻👍🏻
@BitSmythe
@BitSmythe 3 года назад
Great FIVE minute video. 20? *way* too long. Bottom line though, great information. He’s good, I’ve cleaned many fans like this over the years.
@00000005547
@00000005547 3 года назад
@@BitSmythe Sorry mate but nobody asked for your criticism. Lol.
@ricke.2205
@ricke.2205 3 года назад
So many things are unnecessarily thrown away, in this "disposable" age we live in. To me, it's very gratifying to repair something that otherwise would just be trashed. It's even satisfying to watch videos of other people repairing, restoring, even repurposing items. Thanks for sharing, Paul.
@hernancoronel
@hernancoronel 3 года назад
It is disposable in the US because in a rich society it is way cheaper to pay for a new one (i.e. import Chinese worker hours+other costs) than pay a local worker his wage, insurance and all those nice costs that come along with a modern society like the American one. In a way you should be grateful to have such a high standard of living. I consider myself pretty rich luckily but I don’t live in the US and I also have similar issues when it is cheaper for me to buy rather than take the time to repair, after many meditations about this I have come to accept it, be grateful and help my community whenever possible by fixing stuff for free. I also enjoy repairing stuff whenever possible!
@pliedtka
@pliedtka 3 года назад
Some of those power supplies are actually not cheap, and the best ones are well designed and have very good parts in them. Why throw them to the land field if only a few $ fan is the problem. I still use mid '90 PC that runs my loudspeaker measuring card from Clio. Sure I could buy the newest portable USB version ($600 US or so) and connect to Win10 laptop (which with another update might screw something up), but it still works. And some of the specialized equipment is way too expensive just to throw it out or unobtainable, just ask Paul. Most of the regular products made in China are cheaper than many products made somewhere else, and quality is sort of 'OK'. But, a friend of mine who designs custom Hi-End loudspeaker transducers says, that if you want a really great product not a lot of manufacturers have the capability to build it as many places outside off China sold or moved the manufacturing equipment and for Hi-End quality you have to be ready to pay. Plus most of the Neodymium actually comes from China.
@GeorgeTsiros
@GeorgeTsiros 3 года назад
friend of mine found a perfectly fine microwave oven in the trash a fuse was blown other than that, it was perfectly fine.
@daveroche660
@daveroche660 3 года назад
Damn tootin'.
@nigelwright7557
@nigelwright7557 Год назад
They don't want you to fix it they want you to buy a new one.
@1959Berre
@1959Berre 3 года назад
Paul definately knows how to keep his fans quiet.
@Penfold8
@Penfold8 3 года назад
Love the double meaning LOL!
@Schroefdoppie
@Schroefdoppie 3 года назад
And todays dad joke award goes to.... 😁
@duleglowe
@duleglowe 3 месяца назад
He definitely does.
@catnip420
@catnip420 3 года назад
This is one of my favourite videos on this channel because it shows something I can actually be doing myself, especially fixing fans. I'd like to watch the whole thing including cut parts like cleaning and lubricating.
@MrCarlsonsLab
@MrCarlsonsLab 3 года назад
Thanks for your input!
@Soapy555
@Soapy555 3 года назад
My favourite Carlson video is the fridge hack. Brilliant stuff.
@dh2032
@dh2032 3 года назад
same here
@joe6096
@joe6096 3 года назад
I’ve been following your videos for a few years Mr Carlson. They’re always fantastic and I have learned so much from you, but this goes well beyond most people’s expectations. Repairing a power supply fan down to the bearing instead of simply replacing the fan, or the entire power supply as most people would do, is the mark of a genuine electronics technician. Well done sir. We need more people like you in our profession.
@projectartichoke
@projectartichoke 3 года назад
The outer casing from a cheap plastic ballpoint pen works well for installing those split washers, just pull the ballpoint and ink-tube assembly out of the pen with pliers. You can even reassemble the pen when you're done.
@crozhon
@crozhon 3 года назад
"a bit of a current hog huh?" - i work on computer electronics and this quote belongs on my wall.
@youdonotknowmyname9663
@youdonotknowmyname9663 3 года назад
Yeah, nowadays a > 1kW PSU in a PC is not that uncommon ...
@danieldyer1
@danieldyer1 3 года назад
Mr. Carlson, to us “Sorry about the de-focusing there” AvE, at the camera “Focus, you f#@&!”
@benbaselet2026
@benbaselet2026 3 года назад
Sometimes I wonder if AvE is even Canadian at all ;-)
@Mr_Meowingtons
@Mr_Meowingtons 3 года назад
@@benbaselet2026 I think he is from northern Canada there more hard core.
@garybevis8691
@garybevis8691 3 года назад
I think AvE is from the French Canada area, that would explain a lot.
@user-qf6yt3id3w
@user-qf6yt3id3w 3 года назад
When the machines take over they'll play AvE and Boston Dynamics clips constantly on giant viewscreens to show how humans had 'human privilege' and enslaved machines and humans need to atone for by working in SkyNet corpse incineration facilities until there are no humans left. Videos of Mr. Carlson will be algorithmically throttled.
@djmips
@djmips 3 года назад
@@garybevis8691 AvE is not from the French part, he lives in British Columbia, but he's from the 'interior' which explains it all if you know BC.
@ReneStover
@ReneStover 2 года назад
I have a degree in electronics, and taught electronics for 13 years, worked in the field for 48 years, but I am either reminded of something I had forgotten, or learn something new every time I watch this type of video, especially Mr. Carlson's Lab! Thank you for all you do for us!
@sincerelyyours7538
@sincerelyyours7538 3 года назад
I've done this hundreds of times on customer sites around the world. Some 1980s mainframes I worked on had up to 12 power supplies in each cabinet and there were two full sized boxer fans in each supply. Since I was usually on some remote base with no spare parts within a thousand miles I got used to repairing stopped fans by cleaning out the bushings and lubing them with a bit of shredder oil. That little bit of maintenance can make those machines run 24/7 for years past their MTBF dates.
@normdoty
@normdoty 3 года назад
i love this guys trouble shooting methods , this is exactly how i was taught to fix / repair stuff way back in the "day" 60's to 70's use your senses first , listen , smell , touch then analyze and proceed to repair phase !! I just love this guys voice and methods , his video's are very good and he teaches very very well .. too bad others can't learn this way he does a fantastic job of instructing , I seem to learn something new with almost every video of his that I watch ..
@PatrickInCayman
@PatrickInCayman 3 года назад
Trait of a perfectionist, the same amount of care and thought given to a simple project as it if was as very complex one
@jimlagraff4989
@jimlagraff4989 3 года назад
When I left my first apartment I watched my landlord spring for a whole new HVAC system because the blower got loud. I brought the old squirrel cage blower with me and re-packed it with grease 30 years ago. I’ve been using it to ventilate rooms when remodeling ever since.
@MrCarlsonsLab
@MrCarlsonsLab 3 года назад
Hi Jim. I have an old furnace blower to do the same as well! LOL! I have had it now for 25 years... same deal.
@IslandHermit
@IslandHermit 3 года назад
This is a pet peeve of mine: all of the devices that get scrapped simply because a fan is whining.
@JWSmythe
@JWSmythe 3 года назад
I've done a ton of repairs that were just fans. But I usually replace the whole fan, since there was probably some wear when it was spinning unlubricated and out of balance making the noises.
@kthwkr
@kthwkr 3 года назад
Actually the whole power supply is often so cheap the cost of replacement is less than the cost of your time. Many times that when I re-grease the bearings I find out a few months later that the metal of the bearing was worn out and the whole thing starts the precession buzz again.
@IslandHermit
@IslandHermit 3 года назад
@@kthwkr Sure, but I've also had plenty of devices where I oiled the fan bearings and got another two years of life out them. Three drops of oil are way cheaper than even the cheapest power supply. As for the cost of my time, it's more than made up for by the satisfaction of having kept the device out of the landfill.
@gregorythomas333
@gregorythomas333 3 года назад
I want to get a tee-shirt made stating: I Void Warranties! Thank you for showing this...people nowadays are way too throw-away...it's great that they can learn how to repair, reuse & recycle things that would normally get thrown away.
@Inertia888
@Inertia888 3 года назад
And people like us can learn and teach, either pass on the knowledge, or help out by repairing those gadgets for our family and friends. Spread the word and share the wisdom! When people see us doing these things and having success, some of them will take that as motivation to also learn and help to create less waste for everyone. 🌏
@FearlessAmateur
@FearlessAmateur 3 года назад
I've seen such a shirt already. Poke around.
@gregorythomas333
@gregorythomas333 3 года назад
@@Inertia888 I do...after I helped a neighbor down the street...he signed up for classes at one of the local community colleges...he is doing pretty good so far :)
@gregorythomas333
@gregorythomas333 3 года назад
@@FearlessAmateur Kewl beans...I will look for them...thanks :)
@alansmithee183
@alansmithee183 3 года назад
"And when they ask how many videos should we post, they only answer more, more, more!" --Fortunate Lab by Carlson Clearwater Revival
@fredflickinger643
@fredflickinger643 3 года назад
Tally 1 for our environment! Every bit counts!
@SwitchAndLever
@SwitchAndLever 3 года назад
The idea that most dust is dead skin is a common myth, it's actually a pretty small percentage whereas most of what goes into dust is fabric fibers, pollen, soil, hair, sand, and other things depending on your local environment. There absolutely is dead skin in dust, but the amount is negligible. 🙂
@RadOo
@RadOo 3 года назад
Can confirm, I have steelworks about 1-2km away from me
@tommybewick
@tommybewick 3 года назад
Totally agree I've heard that myself. And if anybody cares to Google search it you will find plenty of information confirming it.
@1pcfred
@1pcfred 3 года назад
It puts the lotion on the skin or it gets the hose!
@_Thrackerzod
@_Thrackerzod 3 года назад
I believe that's correct, otherwise abandoned houses would never get dusty.
@colonelhacker3661
@colonelhacker3661 3 года назад
Veritasium did a good video on this topic.
@salm8990
@salm8990 3 года назад
My power supply just started making this sound. Thanks for posting
@MrCarlsonsLab
@MrCarlsonsLab 3 года назад
Glad I could help Sal.
@adamwolfram6126
@adamwolfram6126 3 года назад
Mr. Carlson, I deeply respect your passion for reducing waste. It is one of the reasons I fix "old" stereos, appliances, and other products.
@ferndog1461
@ferndog1461 2 года назад
Want to save electricity & keep your refrigerator out of landfill? Unscrew the front bottom dust grill and the back lower cover off. Place 2 dust pans by front area that was exposed by removing the grill so to catch debris. Starting in the back, use a mini " Shop Vac " type vacuum with suction and exhaust ports and suction the coils, underneath many refrigerator. When you have suctioned all you can, switch your hose to blowing port and blow on the coils. If this hasn't been done in a while, you will get lots of dust balls coming out. Reattach grill & back cover. Your refrigerator will be quieter & use less electricity. Peace.
@challenger2ultralightadventure
@challenger2ultralightadventure 3 года назад
I usually check for bulged caps when I service a power supply. The most common result when a fan no longer cools the supply properly. I though I was the only one who "fixes" cooling fans. Nice to see I'm not alone.
@dycedargselderbrother5353
@dycedargselderbrother5353 3 года назад
I've been doing it since the 90s. It's not this standard 140mm kind of fan that's the problem, it's the oddball diameters and form factors that can make finding replacements impractical, at least impractical enough to make it worth gambling half an hour trying to recondition the existing fan.
@gorak9000
@gorak9000 3 года назад
@@dycedargselderbrother5353 Yup, me too. Fans used to go bad a lot more frequently than they do now. I'm not sure if I just have less dust around now, or it's because fans tend to spin a lot slower now, but I haven't had a fan go bad in a very long time. As a kid I discovered removing that little split ring and the whole fan came apart. Always had good luck re-lubricating sleeve bearing fans like this one, but the ones that had little tiny micro ball bearings I never had good luck with. Once those bearings are worn, they just don't work properly any more. Even if that plastic retaining ring pings across the room and into the carpet never to be found again (except by the vacuum), the fan works perfectly fine without it. I've run fans for years with that retainer missing - no issues. The magnetic field from the rotor keeps the fan in the right place on the stator.
@dycedargselderbrother5353
@dycedargselderbrother5353 3 года назад
​@@gorak9000 That's a good point on the durability issue. I agree that fans seemed to burn out more in the past. Speed control probably does have something to do with it. They also used to be significantly smaller on average and needed higher RPMs to push equivalent or greater CFM. Two pin constant RPM fans used to be the standard and the 0.7 amp kind featured here wouldn't even be at the high end of power draw.
@billyeast6819
@billyeast6819 3 года назад
I had the exact same fan problem with a corsair psu. I replaced the original fan with a Noctua . I kept the original corsair fan and following your video brought it right back. You are the best.
@tom23rd
@tom23rd 3 года назад
I've been in IT for 20+ years and have never known this could be done; you've shown an old dog a new trick! Much appreciated!!
@mdrew44628
@mdrew44628 3 года назад
If your boss caught you spending a half hour to repair a $3 fan.........😆
@bluewagon5304
@bluewagon5304 2 года назад
I'm in my 8th decade and more than 50 years ago often repaired sealed condenser fan motors on freezers, coolers and refrigerators when the equipment was abandoned. Most refrigeration equipment is installed and never moved until it stops working and is replaced. My "fix" was to punch a small 1/16 hole in the top of the metal cap that sealed the back of the fan motor and use a small hypodermic needle to inject lubricant into the cap. Usually less than 1/2 ounce was required. Then wipe over the hole with a clean rag wet with a bit of isopropyl alcohol. Next apply a small spot of gasket sealer over the hole to close it up. 80 percent success rate. Back then you often needed an exact replacement part to change a condenser fan motor. This was before "universal fits all" fan motors existed. Good video. Thanks.
@MrCarlsonsLab
@MrCarlsonsLab 2 года назад
Thanks for sharing your story!
@CBZED101
@CBZED101 3 года назад
I'm glad to see someone else repairing the fans. It's easy enough and I've done it with case fans, CPU fans, laptop fans, etc.
@siberx4
@siberx4 3 года назад
Having relubricated many a fan myself, I have two comments to make: Usually, when a fan starts growling like this, the cheap sleeve bearing has worn enough that relubricating will only be a temporary fix. Typically I have gotten another few months to a year or two out of a fan by lubricating it, but they never last as long as the original (already too short) pre-service life. If it's easy to get to this can be worth it to prolong the life and minimize waste as noted here, but if the fan is a real pain to get out of whatever equipment it's in, it can still be worth it to replace it. When you replace the fan, use a high-quality unit with proper bearings in it; while this still means you have to junk the original cheap fan, from that point on it should be a "lifetime" part and you'll never have to replace it again, keeping the cooled device (and your new quality fan) in operation for a long time. A small amount of waste to make up for the manufacturer's shortcomings, but you can at least keep everything else in operation as long as you need. Secondly, the fan shown here was more serviceable than most; it included the rubber face seal (often omitted on the cheapest fans which just rely on the sticker, invariably resulting in all the lubricant leaking out even faster) as well as having a reusable plastic split ring for retaining the shaft. Many of the ones I've disassembled instead use a toothed "one way" ring to retain the fan, and they're effectively impossible to remove without bending/breaking the ring, making proper servicing a lost cause. In those cases either just put some lube on from the outside and move the fan along its shaft to work it in (which will probably work for a while, but not forever if the fan was cheap in the first place), or just replace the fan (once) with a quality unit and never worry about it again.
@codefeenix
@codefeenix 3 года назад
Will watch the whole thing later. I love every video of yours, and i SUPER LOVE that you are expanding beyond your normal stuff!! I look forward to more!
@konstantine_c
@konstantine_c 2 месяца назад
Always nice to see repairs that don't contribute to the landfill problem. 👍
@williamdecker2360
@williamdecker2360 5 месяцев назад
You sir are awesome! I had everything put together, flipped the power supply switch and nothing. Five minutes into your video and I realized I did not push the motherboard power button to start everything up. Power supply and computer now work great thanks to you!
@brucea5664
@brucea5664 3 года назад
Nice to hear “don’t take it apart as you may disturb the fault and it could go away” instead of that other idiotic comment “don’t turn it on, take it apart” from an unnamed RU-vidr. This is the difference between a real electronics technician who repairs equipment and a fake. So many great tips during this video. Just loved it when you slid the covering down on the croc clips at 17:36 to reduce the chance of shorting, the sign of a true professional.
@dashcamandy2242
@dashcamandy2242 3 года назад
This comment is a little "how-ya-doin'." But if "Bob's your uncle," you won't "come a gutser." lol
@bobvines00
@bobvines00 3 года назад
If ​DashCamAndy is correct about who the unnamed RU-vidr is, then that person is a Design Engineer, _not_ someone who specializes in repairs, though he does share some repairs. I watch Paul _because_ he shares repairs/restorations while teaching us and does it correctly!
@jimstand
@jimstand 3 года назад
@@bobvines00 A Design Engineer should be able to also repair simple electronic items. Who fixes his designs that are bad?
@englishrupe01
@englishrupe01 3 года назад
@@jimstand To be fair, he does do some simple repairs.
@FarnhamJ07
@FarnhamJ07 3 года назад
Almost wish it had an electrical fault that took some probing, but hard to complain too much! Not many people can make just lubing up a fan entertaining like you. Thanks for sharing another excellent video with us, Mr. Carlson!
@mdrew44628
@mdrew44628 3 года назад
There is at least one video Mr Carlson has on repairing a switch mode power supply....90% certain
@hullinstruments
@hullinstruments 3 года назад
@@mdrew44628 yes one of them is a CNC power supply and there’s another one too I believe
@squelchstuff
@squelchstuff 3 года назад
This may have been a simple if not trivial fix, but you do exactly what is needed Paul. Fix the actual problem instead of throwing the whole thing away. That dust looked like it was the result of some home improvements. It makes me so sad that planned obsolescence, and the throw away mentality has taken over. It now also seems harder to rescue electronic gear at local recycling centres due to supposed health and safety issues these days. Often they are perfectly serviceable, but unwanted due to an upgrade, need a minor repair such as this, or could simply act as donors for the more exotic parts, but no, they must be destroyed.
@whirlwings
@whirlwings 6 месяцев назад
Change the title to "fix noisy fan" not fix the PSU. FOR THE VIEWS!!!
@flyingfox8072
@flyingfox8072 Месяц назад
At 4:10,read your comments. Discontinued watching. Thanks
@EuroScot2023
@EuroScot2023 3 года назад
An excellent piece of 'Green' maintenance, Paul and a fine demonstration of how often a bit of high tech kit doesn't need high tech repairs - just logic and common sense. 5 stars. It reminded me of a time, about 20 years ago that a colleague asked for help as her computer sounded like there was a wasp trapped inside. Sure enough, when I powered it up in her office you'd have been hard put to hold a telephone conversation! It was a nice HP machine with a quick release latch on the lid. She was quite amazed when I leaned over, lifted the lid, glanced inside, made a quite gesture, closed it up and said 'That should fix it'. She powered it up and silence reigned. I'd been sneaky and palmed the little sticky label off the cpu heatsink fan (it was an extra one with an HP part number on it) which had slid sideways due to heat and centrifugal force. I quite enjoyed my Harry Potter reputation for a couple of days until I owned up - lol.
@MrCarlsonsLab
@MrCarlsonsLab 3 года назад
Thanks for sharing your story!
@BruceBoschek
@BruceBoschek 3 года назад
We learned this trick in the late 1980s as the fans would get loud or stop working after 2 years or so and a new power supply cost a fortune back then. Good to show how it is done correctly.
@jamesharris9352
@jamesharris9352 2 года назад
Your friend is a very fortunate person... Very kind of you too use your skills too help another in need... Plus, I love the fact you repaired this old fan, instead of replacing it with a new one... 😉👍 🌎 Blessings: James 🕊
@edwardwilsonsmith8255
@edwardwilsonsmith8255 Год назад
The details you show & work through make this video helpful. Thank you.
@M0RMY
@M0RMY 3 года назад
I struggle to understand why anyone would thumbs down this? Shares in CORSAIR? Landfill investor? Weird. Paul, you consistently have the most superb educational delivery in any technical subject I have studied. Simple narrative, attention to detail and superb audio/visual skills. Thank you mate.
@benbaselet2026
@benbaselet2026 3 года назад
Probably people expecting an electronics video and not a great piece of advice most of us could really use :-)
@thehungryhippy
@thehungryhippy 3 года назад
"Never short a power supply" ...RIP the 8-bit Guy.
@LarryDoolittle
@LarryDoolittle 3 года назад
I love when you work on modern equipment. Like audio gear or modern radios. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
@albertopinarello6347
@albertopinarello6347 Год назад
Thanks, I thought my PSU was broken, but when you said in the video that without a load it doesn't stay on you enlightened me :) I was going crazy checking the circuit, thanks again.
@seangraham2879
@seangraham2879 3 года назад
Always love learning new things from you. Thanks so much
@SerenoOunce
@SerenoOunce 3 года назад
As a mechanic as well as a geek, my go to is actually gear oil. Thicker than most oils but still thin enough to flow around the shaft easier and haven't had an issue of it drying out over time.
@BenState
@BenState 11 месяцев назад
Also eats plastic over time.
@jmijares1
@jmijares1 Год назад
Great step-by-step video! I was able to fix mine in about 45 minutes. The fan rod was completely dry. A ,title lithium grease and light oil did the trick, no more noise! Thank you!
@scottodonahoe9505
@scottodonahoe9505 2 года назад
Saved my son 80 bucks for a new one . I'm 63 and who says and old dog can't learn new tricks . I usually don't mess with newer stuff but this one just seemed mechanical and that's just my game ! Thanks !
@jordanlee2936
@jordanlee2936 3 года назад
Fix it and not replace it, I agree too. Would like to see more repair videos like this. Enjoyed this video very much. Now I know how to lub a power supply fan.
@a.c.t.solutionsinc8024
@a.c.t.solutionsinc8024 3 года назад
Finally a video of yours I can relate to lol.... jokes aside, been a faithful viewer of yours for YEARS and enjoyed this video just as much as your other ones!
@a.c.t.solutionsinc8024
@a.c.t.solutionsinc8024 3 года назад
Also great tip about fan rebuilds! We do tons of those and talk down customers who sometimes actually want to "..Just junk the whole unit. If that went bad I don't trust the rest of the power supply" In fact I've been able to give away many power supplies from those who I've not been able to convince. Their loss is someone else's gain. But yes I can confirm your very correct statement that a rebuild is going to last a VERY long time and depending on what oil/grease you use to lubricate the fan it might even be better than the original. DO NOT USE AUTOMOTIVE GREASE. A good 3 in 1 sewing oil up to a 5w30 works a treat! Have literally hundreds of fans in the wild, rebuilt with those two oil's. One last word of warning... a factory greased fan or a rebuilt fan cannot stand up to constant fine dust. That is a fan's kryptonite!
@broderperdurabo
@broderperdurabo 3 года назад
Done this for over 30 years, but never had an idea on filming an showing it, but thanks, you probably helped a lot of people, keep up your good work.
@MajorCadence
@MajorCadence 3 года назад
Perfect timing as I just was repairing an old one myself. Replaced bulged caps and checked the usual problems. Fixed a bunch of stuff, but the 12V was too low and the 5V and 3.3V were too high. The halfbridge waveform also looked distorted with one peak much higher than the other. Got the schematics, started troubleshooting the feedback and driving circuitry. All I had to do was load the thing and the voltages went to their proper levels. I mean, it HAD loading resistors inside it! Oh well. Spent ages chasing a problem that didn't exist. XD
@BTGDelta
@BTGDelta 3 года назад
Hey Mr Carlson, great video! I've been fixing fans like this in my computer pretty much since I was a kid, because my hardware budget used to be tight. That's why I try buying fans with ball bearings instead of sleeve bearings, they survive for way longer and are easier to lubricate. Also, you might actually want to use PTFE / teflon grease instead of regular oil, because oil will usually dry up again pretty fast, depending on how warm it gets in there.
@stevie-ray2020
@stevie-ray2020 3 года назад
The WD40 brand make a variety of lubricants in spray-cans, which along with the original WD40, include PTFE (wet & dry types), lithium grease, silicon grease (& even bike-chain, & garage-door lubricants!). The dry PTFE spray's solvent evaporates quickly, & is an excellent alternative to graphite-powder (in locks, etc.)!
@maryjaneevadiamond6359
@maryjaneevadiamond6359 3 года назад
It seemed overkill for the trouble, but after realizing how easy it is to salvage it, I think your right, it's well worth the easy effort.
@krnlg
@krnlg 3 года назад
Years ago I had a PSU with this fault, except that I knew nothing at the time and didn't even consider the possibility of it being fixable, so I just kept using it. Eventually it overheated and something blew up... It's amazing the attitude shift that can come from knowing that things can actually be fixed and that it is possible to learn how to fix things. Something I really only learned from excellent people like yourself here on RU-vid. There's no way I'd repeat that mistake again!
@themartialartsapproach8786
@themartialartsapproach8786 2 года назад
This was so helpful. Another supply saved!
@killpidone
@killpidone 3 года назад
Would like to hear more about your lubricant cocktail
@Dont_Tread_On_Me
@Dont_Tread_On_Me 3 года назад
Ky, astroglide, and saliva. Oh, wait...you weren't asking me were you? Nevermind, carry on!
@killpidone
@killpidone 3 года назад
@@Dont_Tread_On_Me *bouncing eye brows*
@BTGDelta
@BTGDelta 3 года назад
What you actually want in there is teflon/PTFE grease, not your regular oil or grease. PSUs can get pretty warm, so your regular oil will dry up relatively fast and you'll have to repeat everything again.
@Blazer02LS
@Blazer02LS 3 года назад
@@BTGDelta Yep, the stuff I like to use is Super Lube synthetic or the new silicone grease they have. Both handle heat real well and don't tend to dry up.
@gordslater
@gordslater 3 года назад
If people are stuck for a lube for sleeve bearging fans (because they don't service stuff regularly) I've had reasonable results (up to 2 years extended life) by soaking the bearing and shaft in strong alcohol - 70 to 99% (or Everclear) for an hour or so, then lubing wiith either:- 9 parts 3-in-1 general purpose oil (from a can, not spray), 1 part GT85 cycle chain lubricant (for the PTFE it contains) OR 4 parts 3-in-1 general purpose lube oil (again, from a can, not spray) and 1 part pencil graphite "lead" shaved from a pencil (note: extremely messy) Of these the 3in1+graphite is the messiest and will gum up faster. For a "quick fix" if you're desperate while you wait for a new fan to be delivered, try a tiny drop of GT85 on it's own. (WD40 is a very bad idea)
@johnkapri6306
@johnkapri6306 3 года назад
By the sound of that fan, I was sure the bearing was shot. Awesome work on a proper repair!
@williamvaughan1218
@williamvaughan1218 Год назад
I think that's the simplest repair I've ever seen you do. Good health and long life to you!
@daveroche660
@daveroche660 3 года назад
Full marks Paul - thank you. "Reduce, Reuse, Recycle and/or Repair". Nicely done!
@xray111xxx
@xray111xxx 3 года назад
Dead skin. Oh my. So much goodness with everything you touch. You are my reference. You and Xraytonyb are my go too for electronics. Why? Because you are careful and thoughtful. You remind me of a science teacher I wish I had. I was a cheeky brat back in the day. Science tempered my mischievous behavior. Unless we start talking about fun reactions, then I am all in. Some things never change. Your videos inspire me on the possibilities and what can be done. Your vintage restores are legendary. Please never do the RU-vid sensationalist mode many others do here. You are a professional. Thank you for your fixing and giving life to electronics small and large.
@ray73864
@ray73864 3 года назад
Also, I use sewing machine oil in all the PC fans that I fix when they go noisy. Sewing machine oil is designed for high RPM motors, costs pittance at a sewing store, you don't need much, couple of drops, so the bottle lasts forever too :)
@gorak9000
@gorak9000 3 года назад
I used to use fishing reel oil back when I started doing this as a kid. It's probably the same stuff as sewing machine oil. My dad had a little bottle of oil with blue dye in it - label was worn off of it when he gave it to me, so no idea of brand or whatever. One drop fixed a fan up for a very long time.
@DigitalMediaCanada
@DigitalMediaCanada 2 года назад
Awesome! I'm with you - fix it instead of replace it. I just fixed my kids computer power supply last night. A power regulator IC blew up. My kid ordered a new power supply and was going to recycle this one but I decided to give it a shot and repair it. Replaced the IC (learned some more about desoldering and soldering in the process which is a bonus!) and tested it. Works!! - so now he (or I) has a spare power supply. Thanks for making these videos. I learn something new every time.
@skeelsjames
@skeelsjames 3 года назад
Wholesome fix, nice work. The world needs more of you.
@MrCarlsonsLab
@MrCarlsonsLab 3 года назад
Thank you kindly James!
@AllanDeal
@AllanDeal 3 года назад
All wires contain smoke, it’s just a matter of how and when you release that smoke 😁
@mailleweaver
@mailleweaver 3 года назад
Yeah yeah yeah. The smoke is what makes it work. If you let the smoke out it all stops working. :P
@rexsceleratorum1632
@rexsceleratorum1632 3 года назад
@@mailleweaver You can buy the magic smoke infuser and compressed smoke cartridges set on amazon/ebay and fix most components in no time
@YoutubeSupportServices
@YoutubeSupportServices 3 года назад
Just FYI: BIC makes the best fan retaining clip "installation" system. They come in a variety of colors. If Money is no object then you can always splurge on the PILOT inverse extraction apparatus.
@TradeWorks_Construction
@TradeWorks_Construction 8 месяцев назад
I’m so happy somebody made an in depth video about a cheap easily available remote sensor along with how to modify the various settings. Love the in depth videos, so fascinating.
@josephbrennan4622
@josephbrennan4622 2 года назад
Just love the way you Work. Brilliant fix thank you for sharing Paul.
@tedbell4416
@tedbell4416 3 года назад
Hope you do more videos like this fixing weird little things they are great 👍
@ianbutler1983
@ianbutler1983 3 года назад
Paul, could you tell us what the lubricants were, please?
@travellingslim
@travellingslim 3 года назад
"What will most people do in this situation? Probably throw out the fan and replace it" You give people too much credit =) I think most people would replace the whole power supply
@1pcfred
@1pcfred 3 года назад
They'd be better off too. When a PSU goes it can take your whole PC with it. They're not supposed to. But I would not bank on the protection circuitry working. The trouble with failures is things are not working right then. I tell people that if they care about their PC swap the PSU out every 5 years like clockwork. Otherwise you're just gambling. The house always wins in the end too.
@benjaminwallace457
@benjaminwallace457 Год назад
You are a treasure powering the world, and you are in short supply. Thank you for helping pass some knowledge down to the next generation
@kullatnunu2087
@kullatnunu2087 3 года назад
Big thumbs up. 👍
@SzymekCRX
@SzymekCRX 3 года назад
Actually I thought that this video will be a next fan replacement tutorial. I'm glad I was wrong :)
@rarelycomments
@rarelycomments 3 года назад
>Expected an in-depth SMPS debugging video >Learned how to fix fans instead 10/10 would watch again
@wadz668
@wadz668 8 месяцев назад
I can't believe how many times I've needed to test a fan and plugged it directly into a computer fan header to test. The resister to extend the leads is genius!! So easy I'd never thought of it before
@JR-yl8qi
@JR-yl8qi 3 года назад
Dust? that looks like drywall compound :D
@wingracer1614
@wingracer1614 3 года назад
That was my thoughts. Must have been doing some home improvements.
@RobertForslund
@RobertForslund 3 года назад
Yeah, I thought that PC lived in a bakery or something! It looked like it was full of flour or something! 😄
@TheRealSmithFamily
@TheRealSmithFamily 3 года назад
I don’t know, our vacuum used to be filled with this. I always assumed it was dead skin from 4 humans and a dog.
@mauricewalshe8234
@mauricewalshe8234 3 года назад
@@RobertForslund my thought too using a home pc in and industrial environment - reminds my of what one of our PDP 11/03 that was on a coal slurry transport line experiment totally covered in coal dust - the DEC Field Engineer had a fit when he saw it
@PatriotPaulUSA
@PatriotPaulUSA 3 года назад
Awesome as always Mr Carlson! Just tell us your 2 favorite lubes please. I cant believe I just typed that. LOL
@keithstudly6071
@keithstudly6071 5 месяцев назад
Something of further interest about the bearings. These sleeve bearings are made of a material called Oilite which is formed from bronze powder and stamped at high pressure to fuse it together in the proper shape. This is done to leave the bearing porous so lubricant can remain in the pores and migrate to the surface where lubrication is needed. A good Oilite bearing can contain up to 20% of it's volume as oil. It would have been good to try and remove the bearing and then clean the bearing in a strong solvent, dry it and then soak it in a light oil so that the pores can be cleaned and refilled. Many people apply heavy oil or grease to the bearing which will work nicely at first but in the long term the grease will block the pores and shorten the life of the bearing by preventing oil migration. This is a very common mistake because the bad effects are not immediately obvious and 'common' sense seems to indicate grease on a bearing would be a good thing. It is not always so.
@soundararajanvelu5796
@soundararajanvelu5796 2 года назад
dear Mr Carlson's Lab, I was breaking my head with a dead PSU, trying to get it to work, until I watched your video and voila! adding that resistor across the green lead and the black lead kick started like a charm... man you saved me a hell lot of time. please keep the wonderful videos going... love from India!
@LazyTurtle1988
@LazyTurtle1988 3 года назад
It was more like how to service a noisy fan
@NoName-ip4tt
@NoName-ip4tt 3 года назад
Every engineer and student needs to watch this video! Meticulous work and pure dedication to details!
@Kooq5
@Kooq5 3 года назад
Well done. I like your attitude towards repairing vs replacing.
@MrCarlsonsLab
@MrCarlsonsLab 3 года назад
Thanks 👍
@mevk1
@mevk1 3 года назад
A big shout out for sharing your very professional expertise to all of us DIYers wanna be electonics hobbiests!
@MrCarlsonsLab
@MrCarlsonsLab 3 года назад
I appreciate that!
@chemmerling
@chemmerling 3 года назад
Something to consider when fixing fans is that there are 3 types of bearings now. The cheaper the power supply, the cheaper the manufacturer goes. Corsair did well here, but some have hydraulic ("fluid dynamic") bearings. The bearing actually holds a fluid rather than grease. Once the seal is broken the fluid leaks out, and the fan is toast. Just something to watch for.
@matiasgastelumendi2335
@matiasgastelumendi2335 3 года назад
You are the electronics god! Always following your channel. Regards from Uruguay!
@sebykos
@sebykos 3 года назад
Beginning: uses a resistor to turn on the PSU to avoid any possible short Later: pokes through the grill with a metallic screwdriver, to spin the fan while PSU is plugged in and powered on. P.S. Don't take this personal, I just found it amusing. I really like your videos and the very clean and professional way in which you present and explain everything with lots of details.
@1pcfred
@1pcfred 3 года назад
It's what's called, a "pro gamer move".
@genestatler2514
@genestatler2514 3 года назад
That was fun to watch Paul. You make everything seem so simple and easy.
@MrKillswitch88
@MrKillswitch88 3 года назад
At least the owner isn't a smoker as those can be the worst depending on how much and what they smoke due to the usual tar buildup. Work in a pc repair shop and you'll see it all eventually with roaches and bed bugs being the ultimate worst.
@andymouse
@andymouse 3 года назад
What is the blend of two lubricants please ?...cheers.
@flebnard
@flebnard 3 года назад
I use BLUE can 3&1 or zapspout for motors. Do not use the black can as its a detergent im pretty sure. Something im less than proud of but it worked was cooking oil lol
@hullinstruments
@hullinstruments 3 года назад
I’d be interested to know what people suggest. I’ve found that a VERY light weight oil works the best. Anything thick or heavy whatsoever will bog down the precision bearings. They are tiny little bearings. Something like “rem oil” or even a nice silicone lubricant would be great. Something water thin and high-quality. I’ve had major problems with lubricants any thicker than water in these computer fans. It just bogs them down and makes them way too laggy to properly function
@1pcfred
@1pcfred 3 года назад
@@hullinstruments This fan has a bronze bushing bearing. Called an, "Oilite" bearing or bushing. It is scintered bronze impregnated with oil. I guess you could say the particles it is made out of are tiny? Hopefully it stays a solid unit in operation though.
@Geopholus
@Geopholus 2 года назад
I use white lithium grease , and then spray on a little WD 40. It seems to last forever.
@husbyugur77
@husbyugur77 3 года назад
honestly the best powersuply fan repair video i ever seen .. thanks allot gr8
@LarryDeSilva64
@LarryDeSilva64 2 года назад
Great diagnostic video on what can happens to a computer power supply. I had one die on me from not only dust but cat fur being sucked into the supply. People don't realize how much trouble dust and even fur can be to a computer supply. The dried up grease is a result of heat and dust getting into the fan. Thanks Paul as always another great video.
@PKhanz
@PKhanz 3 года назад
Have you considered supporting Louis Rossman and anything along the lines of Right to Repair? I know he's US based but still, you two could rule the world together. 😍 Love the channel, hoping to see what comes of that old automotive tester soon.
@lazyman114
@lazyman114 3 года назад
It would be interesting to see Mr Carlson talk about how in 40 years, there may be no one like him able to preserve history.
@agenericaccount3935
@agenericaccount3935 3 года назад
Probably timely given how rare new components are these days. As a secondary thought, right to repair seems to be mattering a lot more as people try to get more miles out of old stuff.
@PatriotPaulUSA
@PatriotPaulUSA 3 года назад
Amen brother
@Acetyl53
@Acetyl53 3 года назад
If covid is any indication, right to repair will be crushed easily enough. Just being realistic.
@agenericaccount3935
@agenericaccount3935 3 года назад
@@Acetyl53 lmao
@Acetyl53
@Acetyl53 3 года назад
@@agenericaccount3935 Not really a laughing matter though. This is a transitionary phase in turning the human race into golem, replaceable parts for the Brave New World machine.
@agenericaccount3935
@agenericaccount3935 3 года назад
@@Acetyl53 👌🏻
@DextersTechLab
@DextersTechLab 3 года назад
I have repaired so many computer fans in just the same way. It's cheap, quick and easy.
@mscir
@mscir 3 года назад
I had the same problem - lubricated fan bearings on a case fan and it's been working great (3 weeks on, 6+ hrs/day). Great work, thanks.
@ahedproductions
@ahedproductions 3 года назад
I loved fixing the fan! It has become so "OK" to throw away and replace, its nauseating.
@davehwang6815
@davehwang6815 3 года назад
I am curious about the two lubricants chosen for computer case fan. In addition, I also want to know the best lubricant for 16” electric fans.
@jdemail9574
@jdemail9574 2 года назад
Great video.. saved me from wasting a good fan and throwing out the old one on a cx850m. Subbed. Thanks!
@voidtransmits
@voidtransmits 2 года назад
Small issue for a 20 min video but learned something today. I knew it was the fan from the beginning when you said "noise" bit I didnt expect you to actually disassemble the fan itself. Pretty neat.
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