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I’m not a normal viewer of your channel, I’ve only watched occasionally, but I had to comment because this may be the most immediately helpful form video I’ve ever watched. Within 30 minutes of practicing this out in the field my average distance had become what was previously my furthest distance. Awesome tip and great work on making a drill for it.
The disc golf throw has so many dynamic body movements - this was a fantastic video reminder for all skill levels to keep bringing it back to the fundamental elements often to keep that consistency in your game. Thanks a ton, Jaani!!
Tried this for about five throws when I was out walking the dog and I could definetly feel a difference. Might be the best drill out there. I need to keep my spaghetti more al dente for sure!
What! This drill was revolutionary-- feeling what's keeping the perfect snap from happening and then where it happens at as you introduce more helped me figure out, with my actual body senses, why you need to plant your front foot apart, why I was nose-upping the disc, why it's so crucial to have timing in walk up so that your weight is over the front leg before throwing (and so how off my timing was...) Incredible!! 🙇♂️🙇♂️
This is a great drill. This is great to get a feel for what the arm is supposed to feel like. I was playing a round after working on this and when I got my arm in the right position I could feel it like when doing the drill. This might be your best drill yet. Also really great job on the commentary!!!
After messing with this for 20 minutes or so, I gotta say, damn! I think that I actually felt the throwing sensation correctly for the first time, possibly ever. Thanks again, Jaani!
Great tip, get 100% better. I played with you in Medellin Colombia and I thought what a great technique I should record it, I didn't know you had a channel 😂😂
This literally might be a gamechanger for me! Already with the '100% stiff' version the putters go nearly as far as with a small runup. Best drill ever. Thanks a lot🙏
Im one year in and ive been struggling with this, pulling with my shoulder and leaning over my plant foot when throwing anhyzers especially. Thanks for this drill, cant wait to try it!
The elbow tuck is biggest thing I need to fix in my form right now. I've got it down a few times and gained distance but I haven't been able to keep it consistently yet. I discovered this was my problem when I started throwing overstable discs on anny flex lines and I realized I was mashing them further than I thought I would because my form for throwing an anhyzer made it more natural to keep my elbow out and was getting me a lot of extra power. Can't wait to give this drill a shot ASAP
Sound advice. Thanks Doctor. I’ll work on this technique next practice. I’m getting my L64 Pure 200-230 feet timing and form are so critical in this sport.
Getting the elbow out has been a challenge for me since I started, but this drill allowed me to experience the difference. I kept my throwing arm as straight as possible and progressively threw faster and faster. Eventually physics comes into play and your elbow collapses anyway, BUT the elbow is ALWAYS out front. This was an immediate 75ft average gain for me, from putters to drivers. Even standstills became more powerful. Excellent drill my friend! Now that my elbow is back out front I am hoping to focus on the brace and coil to get over that 400 mark.
cool, I'll give it a try looks like it will give some good feedback.. My backhands getting better with the help of your many angles on getting it more efficent. ty.
Great video Jaani ! I guess I mix up the elbow out with the power pocket sometimes and make bad throws. Your technique is a good way to remember to keep the elbow away with implementing the power pocket the right way !
I just started a couple months ago and was having such bad shoulder pain because I would pin my elbow to my chest! This week I have been keeping my elbow out and definitely gonna run the spaghetti cooking drill next time. Thank you!!
Hey Jaani. Thank you. Just tried this and it actually worked. I could feel I was getting more spin on the disc and added about 30 feet to my midranges. I have been playing for one year and usually throw my mids about 260-ish, today I kept hitting 300 and it felt pretty easy. Can´t wait to get out and try this with my drivers next. Great tip!
I was going to work on upshots tomorrow, not anymore. I'll give an update on this one tomorrow. I've already learned a ton from you Mr Jaani. Thank you
@@dgspindoctor Wow just plain and simpel wow Jaani. Worked for about 45 minutes with 30 mids/putters. It was amazing such a simpel tool and you explain it intelligently. You're a genius. Thanks again
I really enjoy the way you subtlety use the K.I.S.S. principle...keep. it. Simple. Stupid.. all to often we can't get out of our heads and think way to much and hold ourselves back. Your way of ( boiling ) it down is very refreshing thank you for your points of view.
I only hit the wall once. Massive grip lock which has been happening a few shots here and there already. I do feel like it helped with my elbow problem because it helped me wait better. Basically it helped me stop pulling with the arm which is what you said. I will share on Reddit since I haven’t seen it posted yet.
excellent video. I didn't go thru all the drills, I just focused on keeping my elbow away from my body, and parked my first throw on hole 1. This one tip resulted in easier power, I seemed to be hitting close to my maximum distance [sadly about 250 ft but I am 68] with about 75% power.
@@dgspindoctor I throw better at 68 then I did in my 30s and 40s, mostly due to learning better technique on RU-vid, but it doesn't hurt that I am in better shape [like 40 pounds lighter], and very blessed that my body is holding up super well for my age. In Florida, I played with a guy who was 78, and he threw about as well as me, God willing I'll still be out there for 10 more years and beyond.
Tää drilli, 6/5! Katoin videon, tein pari päivää mielikuvatreeniä (oli EO ja vesisadetta), menin kentälle ja heitin n. 100 putteriheittoa näillä ohjeilla. Lähin kiessille kotiradalle ja meni pelikirja uusiksi. Piti heittää väylillä pykälää hitaampaa kiekkoa. Yhellä treenillä, siis yhdellä sain heittoon mittaa n. 10-20m. Ihan uskomaton fiilis, kiitos helvetisti @dgspindoctor 🙏🏻🫶🏻
After rewatching I think it finally clicked…maybe. Keeping the elbow out as you say seems to keep the lead shoulder closed which Chris Shotwell says to “not let the gate swing open.” And how Coach Chris Taylor has documented GG or David Wiggins do extremely well. In the past I rushed to get the concept and went right to elbow up, not out. Anyways, hopefully I am understanding/inferring correctly.
You are the man, great job with this video. However, I can't believe you didn't use the term "al dente" to illustrate the perfect amount of cooked for the arm. Not over done and too loose but just right :D Your videos are the easiest explanations to understand. I have found your videos the best for helping me to rebuild my form and for teaching new players I always point them here. Please keep up your excellent work!
The arm can actually be completely lose if you fully pronate and only use your shoulder muscles and/or the momentum of the swing. This way you don't need to curl the disc into the tuck because while pronated the bicep is completely inactivated and it just slings freely. just hold the arm infront of you in the powerpocket position and pronate and supinate back and fourth while looking at the bicep to see it move from active to inactive and feel how much more free your elbow is when pronated. then when you throw you supinate automatically to create the nose down angle and your elbow might point downward if you REALLY roll over into deep supination. just like in golf you roll your wrist and not hinge it, its much faster and safer. thats how calvin, ricky, matty'O, pierce and more do it without reaching back more than getting straighten out by the initial yank of the arm. You can supinate while reaching back though but then you have to supinate>pronate>supinate, reachback>tuck>release. Not hinging back and forth, screwing the disc forward into a huge pivot at the finger. (watch ricky and see all he does is lean in to as big of a finger pivot flick of the disc as he can with a downwards press going from pronated to supinated) this drill might make you find the twist because it focuses more on the finger flick but ive not tried it
Great drill - really appreciate anything that helps with these types of fundamentals. Have you thought about doing a patreon? Your style seems like it would work well for form reviews and working with an audience.
This is the first drill that made me feel something different immediately. This could be a game changer for me. I am a guy that severely pulls down with the elbow and have never experienced snap. I still hope to reach 100m one day. How do you do it?
Great drill. I've been wondering recently about the correct position of the upper arm in relation to the shoulder joint and chest from start to finish. Given the joints' ball socket it seems that there are lots of angles to consider and reasons to stay stiff and stay loose.
When I first started playing disc golf, my buddies were telling me to pull it in and tuck it close to the body. I naturally had this form as you are showing and after one year, I was out driving them by 50-100 ft.
Oh, you tell me... Everybody did that when I started, and told the others to do. Took me a while to learn out of it, and still that occurs once in a while.
Thanks for another great video! I noticed that in your standstill practice your toes were both angled forward but when you added the x-step you pointed them parallel to your intended target. Does this give you more accuracy / touch because you can face your target since you aren’t coiling as much? Are you doing that consciously on the course for upshots or was this just for the drill? Going to try it myself because I struggle with “fluffing” my stand still upshots.
Gotta try this. Probably will take all the progress that I've made in finally keeping the nose of the disc down when I throw away from me but I'll get that back (I hope). At this point I'm pretty sure my nose up issue has something to do with my physical build as it has been insanely difficult to fix no matter what I do. As soon as I tuck in my pointer finger the nose of the disc just rises up. It is frustrating as it just robs me of distance.
I just came back from fieldwork. This helped me a ton with noseangle, most discs came out nose down. I worked at 100% and 80% - will go lower next time. Question: when having a 80% stiff arm, should I hold my arm slightly bent or still super straight?
Doesn't matter this is a drill to stop you from tucking the elbow in with the shoulder/back muscles involuntarily. Imo as soon as you can stop doing that you should try to keep everything as loose as possible. Swing back with the body (not the arm) to raise the arm then swing forward not letting the elbow drop from there.
If you throw in standstill in this drill (or generally even), you fully strongarm it, right? As there is no weight shift happening and thus no natural hip rotation.
@@dgspindoctor sorry, I wasn't referring to the amount of power. With "fully" I meant how much of the energy to move the disc forward comes from the arm/shoulder vs from anything in the lower part of the body. I wouldn't ask if there was a runup involved. But for this standstill being fully weighted on the front foot, I wonder.
Kiitos videosta. Onko masterilla mitään mietteitä spinnistä, ja miten kehittää sitä lisää jne.? Huomannut itse että kenttätreeneissä jo pelkkä ajatus että "nyt mä spinnaan tän kiekon tosi hyvin" heitossa lisää heti heittojen pituutta. Kiinnostaisi tietää onko sulla mitään ajatuksia siitä että millä vinkeillä siihen kiekon spinnaukseen voisi heitossa keskittyä.
Are you secretly spying on me or what? Your videos are spookily addressing form errors that I recognise myself committing -- or perhaps it is simply because I have tons of form errors to begin with! I have been struggling with late release, in part due to my elbow dropping during backhand throw and because I developed a habit of tucking my arm into my body -- i.e., pulling with my shoulder. I will go out and try this exercise as soon as the rain stops!
I have a problem with drills, which is the fact that I own 8 discs. (I've been played for 2 months now) I don't own a net, or a portable basket. Imagine trying to do 100 throws as a drill. Any throw. I'll throw 6 or 8 times, then go chase them all down.... assuming I find an open field with no people, dogs, bushes water.... reset, and do it again? Nope. After one or two sets, I'm just not getting anything out of it. The only drills I can really use right now are disc-free, body mechanic drills. Otherwise, it feels like drills are just out of reach. This can't just be me who feels this way.
Hey you. That sounds Finnish and I am a Finn brah Pops was poor Irish. Anywho yeah mon I’d say I’m a little bit Al fucking Dente, and a little bit rock and roll. Constantly putting the Sisu into play,dough my putting sucks ass, but that’s ok bye the way how the reefer in Thailand is Thai-stick a sativa brah?
