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Fix This Moonton. 35,000 Diamonds =/= 12,000 W-Gold. Full Evidence and Response ⁂ Watcher of Realms 

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@fastidious_gg
@fastidious_gg 4 дня назад
#MakeThisRight This is sure to be a lively comment section which Moonton will review. Please share your thoughts, grievances and solutions. I also would like to politely ask you watch the whole vid guys before commenting. Thanks
@KingRJ5735
@KingRJ5735 4 дня назад
They want to punish the community that literally keeps their stupid game alive. Worst company ever I will absolutely never make a purchase again not even the pass. I don’t support this game I’m starting to even dislike it. F2P or nothing!
@danielstone6348
@danielstone6348 4 дня назад
I'm not blaming you at all Fastidious. I'm just freaked out that I'll never be able to recover from this. I might leave the game over this but I love this game. This just sucks man.
@wizardoo8983
@wizardoo8983 4 дня назад
There's no way of fixing this without harm the players unless they decide to roll back to the moment before the bug. Otherwise I would prefer a negative ancient shard balance, or divine than my negative gem balance.
@DoarAdrian
@DoarAdrian 4 дня назад
I think they did an error in deductions by adding an extra 0 as I look more into them .. and I am sure they have noticed
@AndrewCallaghan-qb1pg
@AndrewCallaghan-qb1pg 4 дня назад
If in future glitches happen, make a statement that people should do this at their own risk, then you are protecting yourself from criticism
@MikaRS
@MikaRS 4 дня назад
Saved 12k diamonds as a f2p for the next banner, woke up to -25k. Save to say we ain't logging on anymore
@strykerXyugioh
@strykerXyugioh 4 дня назад
Quick question did they take what you bought do you still have the items you got such as summoning crystals
@Radical_Dadical
@Radical_Dadical 3 дня назад
Damn I really hope they get this fixed for you and everyone else, that's terrible.
@abraham.830
@abraham.830 4 дня назад
They see 35k diamond as worth 150 dollars in the game, let them sell a 35k diamond package for 150 dollars and we will always buy it.
@Mrieder79215
@Mrieder79215 4 дня назад
Love it!
@fonettix504
@fonettix504 4 дня назад
LOL ya good luck getting good deals. This was a punishment lets not be mistaken here
@DjMalie
@DjMalie 4 дня назад
Yes I love this idea!!!!
@kirtcousins2686
@kirtcousins2686 4 дня назад
​@@fonettix504 and moonton will be punished too. Players are going to leave, and this game will slowly die a miserable death.
@strykerXyugioh
@strykerXyugioh 4 дня назад
Ok now what did everyone get from the w gold is my question nobody went and just bought the diamond packs they went and got the big stuff like summoning crystals or $70 packs they give you awesome rewards
@germanjp9746
@germanjp9746 4 дня назад
After 374 days, I finally broke down and bought the golden dragon pass - sure as hell not giving them another dime, contemplating not playing anymore. Moonton was well within their rights to take back what was exploited, but taking 35k gems is beyond punishment, it’s almost theft.
@fonettix504
@fonettix504 4 дня назад
100%
@esantostech
@esantostech 4 дня назад
@germanjp9746 charge back your recent purchase. Make them feel it in their wallet. I did it too, but I don't plan on returning.
@GerardC-j3p
@GerardC-j3p 4 дня назад
it's not almost theft, it is theft. You can't hold your player base hostage and demand more.
@ec3840
@ec3840 4 дня назад
But why exploit a bug?
@SunAlucard
@SunAlucard 4 дня назад
they fixed the overkill take back on the diamonds I lost about 2000 diamonds and some left over w gold so yeah I'm fine with that
@judeyyx2
@judeyyx2 4 дня назад
The ‘Hey, Lets Kill Our Game’ speedrun
@boredom2go
@boredom2go 4 дня назад
Somebody at Moonton was living a Southwest Airlines commercial yesterday. "Did you turn on the member program icon for the entire player base?" Wanna get away?
@jacobsmith538
@jacobsmith538 4 дня назад
Literally.
@naquib2591
@naquib2591 4 дня назад
they the best
@EmoEmu
@EmoEmu 4 дня назад
Not being able to trust Moonton intensifies.
@mattyoakes4368
@mattyoakes4368 4 дня назад
They need to sell 35k diamonds for 120 dollars and I will buy it every month 😆😆
@thajope
@thajope 4 дня назад
You can get 17k diamonds every month for $120. Only half what you’re looking for, but still a lot.
@mattyoakes4368
@mattyoakes4368 4 дня назад
@@thajope ye I want 35k that’s what they said they’re worth 🤷🏻😆
@Aaroncoop9162
@Aaroncoop9162 4 дня назад
@@thajopehow
@brucebeck629
@brucebeck629 4 дня назад
@@thajope Im a kind of of new player but pulled Setrum Vierna first leggos and definitely don't want to reroll. How do we get 17k diamonds for $120?
@MikeHol225
@MikeHol225 4 дня назад
30k taken from me. 30k diamonds that were earnt playing the game over the last months, saving them while they delayed the update for weeks, that had nothing to do with THEIR mistake (No way do I blame you and or CC for this. This is 100% on Moonton. If they don't fix this quickly, they'll have killed their game)
@epic7hatesmesez320
@epic7hatesmesez320 4 дня назад
dust in the wind .
@Yillnik
@Yillnik 4 дня назад
Moonton, fix this or I’ll quit forever after spending thousands
@SoldierBoy13
@SoldierBoy13 4 дня назад
Don't forget charge backs
@naquib2591
@naquib2591 4 дня назад
please charge it back
@EmoEmu
@EmoEmu 4 дня назад
How does one charge it back? > not American
@SoldierBoy13
@SoldierBoy13 4 дня назад
@@EmoEmu they fixed it now so no worries
@lostthemanuel5831
@lostthemanuel5831 4 дня назад
Been waiting for this to drop all day 🎉
@fastidious_gg
@fastidious_gg 4 дня назад
hope it is a clear and good vid then
@lostthemanuel5831
@lostthemanuel5831 4 дня назад
​@fastidious_gg great response and i entirely agree with you. Moonton could have handled this way better in many different ways, but this is insane and they'll nuke their own player base. Makes zero sense. Definitely not your fault that they messed up my man
@airheart1
@airheart1 4 дня назад
@@lostthemanuel5831 the most f'd up part is.. the mess up is just something they were giving us anyway. It's not like we hacked their site and stole shit. This is a give away event of exactly what we got. And only that. Ok.. some of us got it earlier than moonton wanted. Oh the horror. Most of us have paid hundreds if not thousands for a game that's worth about $50 bucks in historical game context. And they want to hammer the people who pay them exorbitant money for a game? LoL... GL moonton.. GL.. stick with this as your response if you want. And say goodbye to your paying player base. Oh.. and expect to hear from Apple again when they get thousands of charge backs against Moonton in the next week lol.
@epic7hatesmesez320
@epic7hatesmesez320 4 дня назад
i think its a smart move they start with a crazy bomb shell like this just to look better and save face when they try to listen to complains later on and offer a 1 to 1 exchange and hit 2 birds with 1 stone and escape from paying the other players (the bigger majority) they same rewards its bad for business for them and heads will roll the CEO of moonton needs a new jet and some one has to pay for it !!
@marksinopoli2930
@marksinopoli2930 4 дня назад
I stand with Fasti. Thanks for being our voice and advocate. I will be quitting game if not fixed.
@airheart1
@airheart1 4 дня назад
Not just quitting.. my ass is going to be seeking financial recompense for every dollar spent on this game
@epic7hatesmesez320
@epic7hatesmesez320 4 дня назад
its like people where waiting for a chance to quit and moonton did them a favor and made it easier lol ... for me at least quit but i won't spend on the game or join on the next banner summon or the new champ .. lets see how things change .
@SB-rp8sn
@SB-rp8sn 4 дня назад
Quitting the game if moonton does not give me my stuff back. I saved all the summons and gems for months that they just took away. There's no coming back from -24k gems as a f2p. And for the record - demonizing the content creators over this is unfair, they were just doing us a solid. Its Moonton's fault alone.
@airheart1
@airheart1 4 дня назад
it was a free giveaway they were giving to ever player anyway.. to ruin accounts because we got it a bit early... is SO messed up.
@AndrewCallaghan-qb1pg
@AndrewCallaghan-qb1pg 3 дня назад
@SB-rp8sn So your gonna quit because you got caught exploiting the game through a glitch that you know you shouldn't have did, I think the conversionon the punishment was wrong but its fixed now. You all did the crime but don't want to be punished for getting caught, lmao. Game doesn't need people like this
@TrueVerdeth
@TrueVerdeth 4 дня назад
my take is, first of all that top corner clicking was a bug, you showed the exploit and absued it. second everyone else made their own judgement and they also did it. we as gamers we all know that cheating is no fun and should be handled harshly. BUT even i think that the current gem deduction IS WAY TO HARSH, unless they rework the rewards instead of W-Gold you are now getting 35k diamonds. but that should have been pointed out with the current punishment. as it currently stands, i think this is pretty much the end for those accounts, atleast the ones with -15k or more.
@MrNecrotik
@MrNecrotik 4 дня назад
I've spent way too much money on this game, so this is probably a blessing in disguise for me.
@garyreed8854
@garyreed8854 4 дня назад
I will say this IF they don't give back my diamonds then I'm DONE with this game. I'm F2p and had saved OVER 15k diamonds and now I'm -20k in diamonds is total BS. Oh and they also took 25 blue summons from me as well. If they don't fix this the game will DIE
@LordJustinian20
@LordJustinian20 4 дня назад
Same boat. 456 days logged in. 21k in the negative. Great way to show loyalty to your active player base. Simple solution-give back the 35k diamonds and charge 5-9k diamonds if you MUST find retribution. Otherwise just eat the cost and be nice to the player base for once.
@esantostech
@esantostech 4 дня назад
@@LordJustinian20 exactly they should just eat the cost. It's not like the influx of w.Gold effects, the ingame economy in any way. They messed up they should eat their loss.
@dreamshoosh
@dreamshoosh 4 дня назад
how can you guys use exploit to get 120$+ worth of premium currency and expect that they will just leave it like that is what I don't understand 🤣
@Ben-ek8nf
@Ben-ek8nf 4 дня назад
Moonton screwed up, but so did you. I can’t respect people who take on this “but it wasn’t my fault” attitude. It was an obvious bug and was going to have obvious consequences if you’ve played any other game and have seen this type of stuff happen before (which should be 99% of people). I feel bad for the players that got hit excessively and that for sure should be fixed (although there still needs to be some excess hit in my mind for such an obvious bug to exploit). You should apologize too. You need to. Unsubbed
@VinnyZorato
@VinnyZorato 4 дня назад
Quit the game. Not looking back. Thank you for everything Fasti!
@IklanPilemAndalan
@IklanPilemAndalan 4 дня назад
Goodbye. We'll miss you.
@FevourWoR
@FevourWoR 4 дня назад
I'm giving it 24 hours. Took them less than 12 to screw the players so 24 should be more than enough. I've spent thousands on this game and if this is how they're handling their screw up, I'm refunding everything.
@itsRiske11
@itsRiske11 4 дня назад
How are you gonna do that? What kinda bank you have that will approve a charge back months after the fact?
@bradonf333
@bradonf333 4 дня назад
I don't blame you at all Fasti. You just showed an exploit that was caused by THEIR incompetence. This is all on Moonton and to be honest, this might be the final straw for me to leave the game. I totally get the perspective of "you cheated you get what you deserve", I won't argue with that. I will argue though that if Moonton actually put out a good product these exploits wouldn't be available. You as a corporation need to get your shit together, this is so unacceptable that you are releasing stuff to the public that has this big of a mistake. Like im negative 28k gems. What's the point of even playing the game now? As FTP its going to take me at least 4 months to get out of this hole. Basically no summons, no extra stamina, like my daily experience in this game is gone, so what's the point of continuing?? This is by far the biggest f-up in a mobile games history, at least that I know of.
@airheart1
@airheart1 4 дня назад
What did we 'cheat'? It was a free giveaway.. a login event giveaway.. many of us have logged in for over a year.. I feel like I got a nice gift for it. If they intended it to take another 12 weeks for us to get it.. ok.. big deal, we got it early. You want to debit our account the 9k or 12k wgold and redo the event and make us a work to get it back over the next 12 weeks .. fine.. do that.. seems reasonable. OR.. you want to hamstring most accounts with an egregious penalty of stolen diamonds.. many of which was already bought and paid for in real cash or time played.. ? That's your response? Oh.. this is NOT going to end well for moonton if they decide to stick with this response. This is a games death sentence.
@bradonf333
@bradonf333 4 дня назад
@@airheart1 i agree. I haven’t seen an issue of this magnitude in a mobile game yet. Unless they please their players i don’t know how the recover from this. Especially with the 3 month delay in updates the game was getting stale already. Fasti mentioned this in videos how he can tell the players base was getting smaller. If they don’t make this right it might just be the nail in the coffin.
@Viceroy0187
@Viceroy0187 4 дня назад
I wouldn’t mind them taking the equivalent of diamonds. 5k diamonds. They took 35k diamonds. I get we took advantage of a “bug”. That’s fine. Take the 5k diamonds. I’ll never spend $$ on this game or any other Moonton game if they don’t fix this.
@bradonf333
@bradonf333 4 дня назад
100%
@adamricci2388
@adamricci2388 4 дня назад
-30k diamonds is absurd, nothing to work towards for months = quitting and moving on to another game. This loses them wayyy more money. fix it and salvage your mistake while you still can.
@sauceybossyboi7725
@sauceybossyboi7725 4 дня назад
I've spent around $4k since global. probably more.... I'm sitting just under 36k gems negative. no matter what they try to fix this, if anything, I'll never spend another cent. total trash @moonton.
@Pop-qb8ey
@Pop-qb8ey 4 дня назад
You spent 4k and put your Account on risk to exploit a Bug?
@swa3162
@swa3162 4 дня назад
I feel like if this isn't fixed this game will not last much longer. I didn't spend anything so i wasn't effected but they're 1000% wrong on their handling of this. -30k crystals for 120 is beyond wrong on their part.
@airheart1
@airheart1 4 дня назад
Some of us only got 9k wgold.. they STILL took 35k diamonds. Lol.. they are going to rue this day if they don't fix this shit quick, and equitably. All for a free giveaway event. This was wgold they PLANNED to give us all anyway. Some took it early because they screwed up when making the webpage. We didn't steal something they didn't intend for us to have.. we didn't hack their shit to take it.. it was right there on the page if you knew where to click. A page they made.. an event they made.. a gift they chose to give us. And they F'd our accounts for it. Not gonna go well for them if they don't fix this mess.
@boredom2go
@boredom2go 4 дня назад
The funniest part about all this was the 100 gem compensation at the end. "We realize we just set the entire WoR world on fire, so here's one copy of Rum-Nose."
@BrendanB-1979
@BrendanB-1979 4 дня назад
This is insane that the devs thought ~30k of diamonds is equivalent to the ~9k W-gold. Moonton will lose some of their most active, most engaged players if they dont correct this
@pallorka
@pallorka 4 дня назад
I completely agree that -30k distraction is a BS. That being said, knowingly exploiting a bug is itself against the rules in most games, be it gatcha or pubg or whatever, and in most real life laws as well. And it is often bannable/punishable. So i kinda feel for everyone who got in this golden trap, but... There is a saying in Russian: "Free cheese exists only inside a mousetrap". There is probably equivalent English idiom...
@David-jf4qo
@David-jf4qo 4 дня назад
This wasn't an exploit though. It was a release of items that wasn't on the time table or quantities they wanted to release. That is completely dofferent.
@pallorka
@pallorka 4 дня назад
@@David-jf4qo not sure about completely different, but i totally hear you about the timetable/quantities
@genpotrait2274
@genpotrait2274 4 дня назад
To get all the reward on day 1, only possible through exploiting the glitch/bug ​@@David-jf4qo Moontoon, CC that showing the glitch, and people that using it has some degree of wrongdoing. But I agree their answer to this issue is very questionable.
@epic7hatesmesez320
@epic7hatesmesez320 4 дня назад
your definition of exploit is wrong then .. that was an open feature for all to use what part of that was an exploit .
@genpotrait2274
@genpotrait2274 4 дня назад
@@epic7hatesmesez320 there was a glitch/bug where you can click and get point to reedem all the reward on day 1. Thats the exploit
@11Manidontcare
@11Manidontcare 4 дня назад
If you truly are going to quit don't just quit, charge back your purchases.
@esantostech
@esantostech 4 дня назад
I did
@cardhoarder9977
@cardhoarder9977 4 дня назад
I am giving it 3 days. I’ll chargeback over $1000 in the last 3 months if not fixed. See how they like $1000 being debited.
@Mrieder79215
@Mrieder79215 4 дня назад
Wait... how do I chargeback purchases? I'm all in for this.
@Justarando18
@Justarando18 4 дня назад
If they fix it I’m sure some people will forgive them. But they may as well have banned me. Already filed my chargebacks and it’s pending.
@scalpertcg1637
@scalpertcg1637 4 дня назад
Can I just go to my bank or credit card company and do this?
@tylerhendricks5788
@tylerhendricks5788 4 дня назад
I had disputed a charge on my card for $20 that I didn’t recognize to find out it was for WoR and Moonton punished me -6k diamonds during the Lust banner. I disputed this and they essentially told me tough luck.
@tylerhendricks5788
@tylerhendricks5788 4 дня назад
I did the math and told them that their math was mathing, which is surprising for them being a Chinese company, and they disagreed and nothing ever happened. Took me about a month or 2 to get back in the positives without spending any money.
@justsomeguy6746
@justsomeguy6746 4 дня назад
I've now quit the game.
@LancerX916
@LancerX916 4 дня назад
I totally saw this coming. I did not spend anything because I knew they would do some sort of roll back or penalty to players that got the rewards or spent them. I play Marvel Strike Force, where screw-ups like this are a monthly thing. So I guess I am just trained now to wait for the hammer to drop on those that take advantage of bugs that benefit the players.
@DoarAdrian
@DoarAdrian 4 дня назад
Did the same, didn't spend anything so they just deducted what I initially got
@cygnus3632
@cygnus3632 4 дня назад
On MSF this is expected as it is a game run by Scopely lol
@JP-vi4ig
@JP-vi4ig 4 дня назад
Ya, but 34k diamonds?? That's nuts.
@MortarMike
@MortarMike 4 дня назад
UPDATE: They're fixing it as of 5 seconds ago, gems are coming back
@MarkChaney-b8k
@MarkChaney-b8k 4 дня назад
They are putting out the dumpster fire lol
@rynnb1983
@rynnb1983 4 дня назад
-33,000 and missing 20 rare crystals. I only had 9,050 w-gold. And used it on the growth pack, and one crystal pack. This was not right at all.
@cameronmcmichael5386
@cameronmcmichael5386 4 дня назад
If they were going to launch this event where we could all get these rewards and W-gold they should just have prevented people who claimed already from getting when they launched the event. What they have done is nuts
@SassyEmotions
@SassyEmotions 4 дня назад
I don't want to keep playing if we are treated this way. Started with the nissalt "feature" that was a large boon for many players. Fixed in like 8 hours. Lucius not working properly. Takes months to get "fixed" and still doesn't work as intended, but just completely changed how it works plus changed boss mechanics. Abysmal communication where it came to not releasing any new content in the game for months except for new heros to keep the funds coming through. Gb2 still not working properly, if the score reaches 280k+ and has a chance to glitch the game and not let you save the score. Reported months ago and still a problem. Ruining accounts because they claimed rewards for an event they're going to claim eventually anyway. And then "fixing" their mistake by messing it up even further.
@fastidious_gg
@fastidious_gg 4 дня назад
I hear ya sass. I am pretty disturbed too. but also I am encouraged that this was all resolved in less than 12hrs and less than 20 hrs total.
@eugenestoner8405
@eugenestoner8405 4 дня назад
You should be telling people not to do the exploit as a content creator.
@dinoperedetout7464
@dinoperedetout7464 4 дня назад
Maybe tell Moonton to hire competent programmers and a QA team that checks stuff. Its THEIR mistake. They should own the consequences.
@vitormeira520
@vitormeira520 4 дня назад
​@@dinoperedetout7464so if a house owner left a door open u go inside and take their things and its their fault? Lol think little one 😂
@dinoperedetout7464
@dinoperedetout7464 4 дня назад
@@vitormeira520 not even a close analogy. They gave access, on their own website, to all these resources. And in the end, everyone is meant to get them anyway. Moonton made it possible to get them early. Their website, their doing, their fault. So no one "stole" anything.
@epic7hatesmesez320
@epic7hatesmesez320 4 дня назад
1-if people are pissed at what happened they need to start talking with their wallets or at least try not to pull on the next banner and show your resolve ... i know i won't . 2- think about it if they start the bidding for the penalty from 1 to 1 people will complain and rage on that and the compensation has to start at a higher point and they don't like rewarding people for their own mistake .. but if they start from a higher penalty people rage at a lower point and they can offer an ok-ok compensation and say "we hear you lets do a 1 to 1" people won't feel so bad and be more submissive ... smart business . 3- they want to create a precedence if people benefit from a bug or an exploit they created then they need to teach them a lesson and show them who's boss . 4- i learned my lesson the hard way from when i invested hard on the boreas scam "they enticed me/people by an OP unit and cashed in big just to say ops we are sorry and nerfed him because they believe its better for the game health and arena just to drop another OP unit Ingrid that destroys all rational balance but its ok to keep her cause more profits = good for them and fuck the game health or arena " the double standers should have been a clear cut indicator to how they operate . 5- fastidious you tend to forget they are based in china they act and treat people differently there .... bad or evil you decide .
@DavidD11671
@DavidD11671 4 дня назад
Can’t imagine continuing to play the game. It’ll take months to break even from being at -33k diamonds
@v1llanous972
@v1llanous972 4 дня назад
Im with you on this one Fasti...... this whole thing is FUCKED! They need to fix this or we are all screwed.
@fastidious_gg
@fastidious_gg 4 дня назад
thank you and yes I agree
@moodmantv
@moodmantv 4 дня назад
100% support you and your opinions. Appreciate the video and hope to see a fix soon man.
@Microwave2973
@Microwave2973 4 дня назад
They still have time to revert this and keep the goodwill they have built. But if they ignore this then everything they have built will crumble and so many players will leave
@DarkMewtwo1994
@DarkMewtwo1994 4 дня назад
My accounts werent affected at all by this and i still feel like this is total bs on their part. In no way shape or form is it content creators faults, its moontons fault and theirs alone. And if they wana go and point fingers and blame someone else for their own shit?! Thats just crazy! Thinking of quitting what i thought was such an awesome game over this god awful bs. Thank you for being such a big part of the community and always keeping us informed both of good and bad.
@charlydarwin3611
@charlydarwin3611 4 дня назад
how to kill your own game: 1. let you customers pay for your incompetence (that's why we work on development stages in IT before a patch goes live) 2. 9999W-gold is 4k diamonds - lets charge them 8 times the amount to kill their last spark of motivation 3. raid shadow legends: here they come
@MarkChaney-b8k
@MarkChaney-b8k 4 дня назад
This is as low as raid at times lol
@sepkorn
@sepkorn 4 дня назад
Nobody else's fault and certainly nos Fastidious, they need to start owning their mistakes! You're a content creator and this game has been so improved thanks to Fast and other creators
@xjamilton3581
@xjamilton3581 4 дня назад
I exploited a bug content creators talked about knowing there was a risk. I don't not deserve to be punished by Moonton taking 35K diamonds, plus the shards, plus the remaining W gold. I now cannot afford stamina during a fusion, I cannot afford to pull for Twyla which I've been saving for over something we would have all gotten eventually anyways. Holidays are when these games make the most money so now is the worst time to grossly over punish their most loyal players/ biggest spenders.
@Obisan1990
@Obisan1990 4 дня назад
I don’t actually blame you or any CC’s. It’s fully Moonton issue. I would like them to just reset the W-Gold and program
@devdalwadi31
@devdalwadi31 4 дня назад
I dont get how people hate on content creators for simply doing their jobs… It’s so hypocritical to hate on cc’s for overhyping heroes or spreading drama and saying people shouldnt watch cc’s but then complaining when they do watch a CC inform people about a bug, pick your side and dont switch when it’s convenient for your argument
@ethanmott6039
@ethanmott6039 4 дня назад
I am so demoralized I saved 33,000 diamonds and was looking forward to Twyla. I have 2. It was their mistake. I legitimately thought they where allowing player who had over a year of time the ability to back track on logging in. I’m going to quit. My biggest regret is the amount of money I spent on this game, I feel ashamed.
@Caleb-zu1pk
@Caleb-zu1pk 4 дня назад
Yo, Fastidious. Is your audio going through your main microphone? Sounds different. Thanks
@UnpaidSeclusion
@UnpaidSeclusion 4 дня назад
I know its sad , but damn Moonton . Delivering the middle finger with this one 😅
@Tyler-zi5uc
@Tyler-zi5uc 4 дня назад
Fasti thank you for sharing the news. It’s not your fault we all choose what we do. I appreciate that you as a RU-vidr share glitches and what was happening. So please keep up what you’re doing. it’s not your fault at all.
@damianstevenson5942
@damianstevenson5942 4 дня назад
While I don't agree with how much they took, this was something I knew was gonna happen given my experience in other games when something like this happens.
@Tomisloove
@Tomisloove 4 дня назад
I'll say again and no more. They made a mistake, admited it and DIDN'T LOOSE MONEY BECAUSE IT'S VIRTUAL! And now the took even some diamonds that ppl payed for... they actually commited a crime now... NO RESPECT! I don't know what it would take for me fo continue playing. Also they started misrepresenting the game with fake gameplay ads. Same as all other game scammers.
@DARK-MAN1126
@DARK-MAN1126 4 дня назад
Anyone who think FASTIDIOUS is to blame then MOONTON is RIGHT. I got screwed and now I owe -34,009 DIAMONDS. WTF, MOONTON PPLEASE FIX THIS BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO QUIT😢😢😢😢😢😢
@juanandujar2099
@juanandujar2099 4 дня назад
It's less now refresh it
@gregorypeterson5160
@gregorypeterson5160 4 дня назад
I don't blame anyone that took advantage of this, but I have been playing gatchas games for a loooonnnggg time and this type of thing happens quite a bit...with the same outcome. Happened with Star Wars, happened with MSF etc etc...whenever I see something like this pop up, I don't take advantage of it, because I know its going to blow up.
@strykerXyugioh
@strykerXyugioh 4 дня назад
I have to ask this do the players who spent the w gold still have the rewards from the packages you bought? No body buys the diamonds a face value they buy the packages that give you great rewards
@briannighbor144
@briannighbor144 4 дня назад
I am a spender, I took advantage of this, but didn’t spend the gold because I could see it getting pulled back. Which would be fair. This went extreme. And now I honestly don’t know if WoR will recover from this massive blow to their most active players. Lastly, Fasti is just the messenger, he’s not the one to blame here. We took that risk on our own.
@someoneelse667
@someoneelse667 4 дня назад
Moonton should unpunish people and accelerate the rewards for everyone. It's the PR that they need after the update fiasco, and a W-Gold taster could get more people spending and joining. That amount of W-Gold can basically get someone enough resources for one excellent hero event. That's enough to get many people loving the game and spending.
@fastidious_gg
@fastidious_gg 4 дня назад
i agree this would be best. unfortunately it's unrealistic
@someoneelse667
@someoneelse667 4 дня назад
@fastidious_gg It's definitely unrealistic for Moonton, which is unfortunate. Personally, I've been happy with their fix and consider the original intended version a generous compensation. Unfortunately, many potential customers are more fickle, and such a gesture could be perfect to retain them and attract more spenders. As a low spender who's been lucky, I just want the game to thrive.
@Bitridamus
@Bitridamus 4 дня назад
I had 30k diamonds that I saved over months for Twyla Hex Banner only for them to ROB me let's be clear, this is THEFT of my time and efforts because they didn't test their stuff and put it into production. I play this game every single day, and now I'm -3k diamonds. I had something around 500+ summons after selling blues ready for Halloween. This needs to be resolved or I will NOT play this game and recommend my friends who joined with me to leave as well. Plus, I will be leaving a review on the app page about this. Over 1k for 120 dollars of W-gold is fucking absurd. It is on the developer to test and ensure their products are good to go before pushing to production, NOT the players. We shouldn't be punished for their mistake. I will not spend another dime on this game if they do not correct this before Halloween. Also, they intended to give us this anyways....double slap in the face.
@fastidious_gg
@fastidious_gg 4 дня назад
I really hope a better solution is put in place.
@Terran-Lord
@Terran-Lord 4 дня назад
I have spent about $250 in the first month of playing with my wife. We both really liked the game and I just recruited a friend too. Most of my summons were going to come from my diamonds I was saving for the next event. She was saving too. Words can't express how horrible this is. They are basically telling me that any diamond reward for the remainder of my game no longer exists. There is no longer any point in grinding and no way to excitedly save for the upcoming events. This is lunacy and should kill the game.
@tomekp982
@tomekp982 4 дня назад
I like you Fastidious because when I watching you I feel like you always by my side. Not side of Moonton but with players and talk loudly what we feel. Thank you
@KrypticArt
@KrypticArt 4 дня назад
This is an issue that Moonton needs to fix. This is just a digital currency, it shouldn't be costing them anything for the WGold. But the blame game isn't acceptable toward you, no one forced anyone to try getting this to work. All you did was present the information. It was the person who did it own actions that caused what happened to them. People need to grow up and own what they do. And that includes Moonton for screwing people out of their diamonds. Keep up the good work Fasti!
@coramino2231
@coramino2231 4 дня назад
Fasti i also did it and got charged by them and i surely don't blame you or any other content creator! Moonton is making the biggest "mistake" in their lifetime. Unbelievable... I am still thankfull for all your videos and your passion! Only one to blame is Moonton. Don't let some negative commends get you down! :) Nice greets, Coramino
@sethlintner8374
@sethlintner8374 4 дня назад
I had about 22k diamonds saved up before the bug was ever a thing. Was super proud of that, most I’ve had at one time. Now sitting at -11k. If this isn’t fixed as fast as we know they are capable of fixing it (like when something actually benefits the players) I may have to walk away from the game that I’ve enjoyed so much for the past year. This is absurd. #makethisright
4 дня назад
Hi I used 9k w gold and they took 5 ancients,20 rare summons. I had 25.1k diamonds and now I am -10,812 how does that math work?
@Wesgarbarwil1420
@Wesgarbarwil1420 4 дня назад
They did this on forerunner. They gifted a whole server 30k diamonds. The majority of us spent them on summons and woke up to a -30k balance.
@zerfect
@zerfect 4 дня назад
if there is no change I am and my friends leaving. Thank you for your time!
@Affenglibber
@Affenglibber 4 дня назад
Why not just make it a happy event and give everyone the things they would have gotten one day anyway. That would bring the community down and put Moonton in an honorable light
@bradonf333
@bradonf333 4 дня назад
They could have taken this opportunity to please the entire player base and say, hey guys we royally messed up and you get free stuff for it. All players would be happy and morale in the game would be so positive. They took the opposite approach and now the entire player base is freaking out, gonna take all the positivity out of the player base. Totally wrong choice here.
@FreddieFlair52
@FreddieFlair52 4 дня назад
I got the daily check in code from their discord after checking in 3 days in a row and tried to use it and it wasn’t letting me submit it stating the unique code i got has reached it’s limit. How is that possible?
@SkyRoseYT
@SkyRoseYT 4 дня назад
So you made a video telling people to spend the wgold fast but you didn't and they got screwed but you didn't?
@SomeDaydiamond
@SomeDaydiamond 4 дня назад
He has 80k sittin there why would he need to spend any
@renz546
@renz546 4 дня назад
They didnt just remove $1000 worth of gems, they also removed the summons (blue and ancient) from our accounts... why can they react so swiftly to this type of issue but not to other issues in the past?????
@alexgaines3259
@alexgaines3259 4 дня назад
Maybe the negative diamonds is a placeholder to prevent further exploitation rather than a punishment.
@Sonnensturm
@Sonnensturm 4 дня назад
That’s what I also thought
@GoonGoyle
@GoonGoyle 4 дня назад
Have spent thousands of dollars in this game over the time I've played, and it's because I love the game so much and think it is so unique that I want to support it and continue supporting it for years to come. But the way they handled this is absolutely absurd. I wouldn't mind if they took back the rewards people gained, that is completely fair but the disproportional punishment is absolutely insane. Months and months of saving gone, and I for one will never spend another dollar in this game and possibly won't even play it anymore if this isn't fixed
@miggy4667
@miggy4667 4 дня назад
In MLBB (Also under moonton) if theres something fishy and never passed the community standard and abuse the player-based, we all have a campaign and rate the game 1 ⭐ in store, and all their post, including contents will get flooded by strong disagreement of what they did. Later then they fix it and favors the community. Every player in MLBB know how dirty moonton and how cash grab they are so we unite as one everytime they make a mistake. -the recent campaign we had was the unnecessary adjustment of unique hero and now they bring it back to original. We wont stop until they heard us!
@-Unguardian-
@-Unguardian- 4 дня назад
I don't blame Sebastian or you, showcasing their own bug. They can hot fix it in less than two hours... Yet, three months in guild boss 2 and still no bug fix (for those who deal over 400k dmg).
@bradonf333
@bradonf333 4 дня назад
ya really shows where their priorities are huh!
@willrodenberger8088
@willrodenberger8088 4 дня назад
I did get the w-gold last night, but wasn't going to spend it, just in case. So glad I didn't spend it. Not your fault or the fault of the other CCs. There are definitely other alternatives to what they did, but this may also be a placeholder until they can do the right thing.
@darkgedi
@darkgedi 4 дня назад
Not that its equivalent .. but I assume the ppl with -30k still have monthly cards they purchased?
@leeriddolls6684
@leeriddolls6684 4 дня назад
Not only did they take the 12,000 diamonds I had prior to this, they also decided I owed 22,000 diamonds, even though they removed everything that I got with the WG except for two skill crystals. I didn’t use any of the summoning gems or diamonds I’d bought with the W-gold, and they were all taken back from my account anyways. So essentially for the 2x skill crystals I’m out 33,000+ diamonds….
@someoneelse667
@someoneelse667 4 дня назад
The criticisms toward you for trying to help people were ridiculous. Just know that you're appreciated as a truly helpful content creator, and your tier list is great.
@fastidious_gg
@fastidious_gg 4 дня назад
appreciate you
@phillipmerrill4058
@phillipmerrill4058 4 дня назад
In my experience, the only community-based endeavor that has any traction with these companies are mass spending halts for a month or so. Outside of that, any attention is good attention and could potentially even bring more new players in due to the heightened traffic and noise.
@travistaylor3366
@travistaylor3366 4 дня назад
Damn, I was a little bummed out last night that I didn't get the offer in time last night, but boy am I glad now. Sorry to all the folks who got it and got unjustly punished for it.
@RogunK
@RogunK 4 дня назад
I wasn't hit anywhere as badly as others, but I did get hit. I only had about 1.2k diamonds after spending on summons this past weekend and I have -250 this morning. All the w-gold is gone, which is fine considering I'm f2p and all of it was from the thing you told us about last night. I didn't spend it all yet, but I did buy a 6 month privilege card and it's still active, so that is at least something.
@mr.beetey4757
@mr.beetey4757 4 дня назад
I'm -34k gems, so it doesn't even feel like continuing to play is an option. Between the delayed update and now this, I highly doubt the game will still be around in a few months. Very unfortunate.
@bradonf333
@bradonf333 4 дня назад
Exactly, how am I gonna do anything in game over the next 4 months. I can't buy stamina, I can't summon, next 4 months of banners im not gonna have any diamonds to summon with. My account will be so far behind, might as well drop the game.
@HanziHono
@HanziHono 4 дня назад
So for those of use that bought things like the advanced line pack we lost our diamonds from the pack. What's the deal with that? I assume the pack won't be available to purchase again. So we're just supposed to let that stuff poof and be happy about it?
@rodneyschuler67
@rodneyschuler67 4 дня назад
I took advantage of it because there were a lot of others doing it and it seemed like a great offer that everyone would eventually get. It wasn't something that we wouldn't get but just maybe a bit early. I woke up to -26,000 diamonds and if they don't do something I will definitely not continue playing. It basically means I won't be able to participate in summoning events for months and the game has definitely been losing it's appeal and this would be the nail in the coffin.
@mightyzoo
@mightyzoo 4 дня назад
Fastidious I'm 100% on your side. I have no clue why people even blame CC's! Good video. 2 years ago they did exactly the same thing!
@Big_Slab
@Big_Slab 4 дня назад
We are punished for moontons mistake! Not only punished but severely punished beyond recognition! If they don’t fix this by next weekend myself and my my entire 30 player guild will quit and leave horrible reviews all over your game! These should have been the rewards we received for waiting forever for the big update! Not 100 slap in the face disrespectful diamonds!!!!!!!!!!!
@briandaniels2408
@briandaniels2408 4 дня назад
PS - This is not Fastis fault at all. He and another content creator saw something that could benefit their audiences and let people know, that is all. I appreciate Fastis content.
@RuRyda
@RuRyda 4 дня назад
Anyone who blames you fasti or another CC is either just wanting someone to blame or they aren't intelligent enough to realize that people were going to get it anyway, the ones that did know wouldve shared it with their friends and only the "elites" wouldve gotten it. Instead, everyone had a fair shot at getting it. Moonton absolutely screwed the pooch in their response. They could've turned this in their favor and made lifelong loyal players out of people who may have been on the fence about quitting. Now they've just driven people away who would've played, who would've spent. This game will die or have a severe downturn if they dont fix it quickly.
@BrendanB-1979
@BrendanB-1979 4 дня назад
Bug = Devs problem
@bradonf333
@bradonf333 4 дня назад
10000%
@davidnyberg6840
@davidnyberg6840 4 дня назад
I don't care about them taking the W-gold back. I don't even care about them converting (missing) W-Gold to diamonds, but the rate is an atrocity. $120 is not 35,000 diamonds. They are going to lose players over this. This needs to be fixed!
@jesseulibarri5065
@jesseulibarri5065 4 дня назад
As a software developer myself, I know bugs happen ALL the time. But when they do, you apologize, and with tail tucked between the legs, KEEP YOUR CUSTOMERS HAPPY!! If your most active players find an exploit, tell them, "Hey, nice find. Congrats" and move on. I've spent thousands, but won't be spending more if this isn't fixed.
@felixalaimo
@felixalaimo 4 дня назад
Well to be fair, people affected by this were the ones trying to exploit what was clearly a bug. No way that anyone following those steps didn't know this was not intended to work like that! It's not like guild boss awarded w-gold and whoopsies, right? And to be clear, introducing the bug was their fault but exploiting it is on each person, so guilt is equally shared (OR even more on the exploiter) to my point of view. Maybe the "currency" is a bit off, and I guess that's on them being angry on the subject. Probably in other games like Raid every exploiter would have been banned forever and the content creators distributing it would be automatically off the content creator's programs. I would guess even had, how is it called? a strike?
@ericksmith1818
@ericksmith1818 4 дня назад
If I had not been 30 minutes late to the video & missed the exploit and then woken up to -10's of thousands of diamonds I would have just quit the game flat out. Been playing for almost a year and love this game but the blow back from Moonton has been crushing
@RileyBurke-zx9ix
@RileyBurke-zx9ix 4 дня назад
Dud this is such a weird hill to die on. And to say that you didnt forsee an outcome like this... Come on man. Is this your fault? How dare fastidious? No. Clicking on a pixel in the corner? To magically progress DAILY rewards. I guess even you dont sound 100% about it in the initial video. Its a very generous game and we are spoiled. And you are the F2P voice, i see you for always looking out for us and we really do appreciate it. The conversion is fucked up, best case scenario they are just marking accounts whove now abused an exploit. Which is bannable in so many other cases. An exploit to receive in game currency. We shall just have to see. Gl yall
@Grizz_Fif
@Grizz_Fif 4 дня назад
Yea, this is wild. Anyone blaming you needs to learn to take responsibility for their own actions. Anyone that did this, including me, knew they were manipulating a system and could potentially lose they items they were claiming. That being said, Moonton has severely overstepped here. I'm not nearly in as bad a spot as some of the screenshots you shared as I didn't spend the majority of the W-Gold. I spent around 3,500 which somehow they think equates to roughly 12k diamonds??? Even based on their Diamond Shop prices, which I think is absurdly overpriced, I should have lost at most 1k diamonds. I really hope someone messed up and added an extra 0 to the diamonds removed. Honestly if this isn't fixed I'm done with the game.
@paul9601
@paul9601 4 дня назад
Everyone’s eager to use it, and even faster to complain about the consequences.
@HelikaonTheBurner
@HelikaonTheBurner 4 дня назад
They've altered it already, and given me back around ~32k gems that were deducted. I've now gone from 1980 gems, to -33,380, then back to -1380. Ancient and Rare shards from rewards still removed, but the purchases from the w-gold I used are still active. It's still a bit shit imo, but much more recoverable than -33k. I don't know how I feel about this yet tbh.
@Azhalan
@Azhalan 4 дня назад
Here's what I think will happen: In a few days, Moonton will reimburse at least some of the gems they detracted and make it look like they are being generous. Some people will be content, others not so much. I'm still amazed at how anyone in professional environment can think this to be an appropriate response. It's almost as if they WANT to harm WoR.
@charlesbeguelin7421
@charlesbeguelin7421 4 дня назад
Hi! I’m a relatively new player and would like to get a more comprehensive explanation, what happened with the Wgold, where did it came from,…. I did not understand what happened and honestly I am thinking of quitting if they treat their community like that, is it possible to get an explanation ?
@irfansyed1675
@irfansyed1675 4 дня назад
What doesn't make sense is that ,if they put w-gold in negative. Many people don't but W-gold. That's a fact. I don't, the people I know don't. If do buy something it's direct packs. So for them to put negative on something that I won't be recharging ever makes sense. What doesn't make sense is the huge negative on diamonds. They should at max put -4000 gems and take the L for the remaining value of the packs ,as they said it's their fault.
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