For those who had this sorted out before but are back to the old problem: After recent updates you have to change the colorspace inside of the TIMELINE SETTINGS which overwrite whatever you have set in your project settings. If its a graded project put a color space transform effect on your entire timelime (input "rec.709" - output "use timeline") et voila
Great catch but for people who are new like myself at this, voila for which one? Do I change "Input" gamma or "input" color space?... and vice versa for output? Do i just rec 709 the whole CST options? lol thanks
Crazy how we actually have to learn the science of this stuff to do a good job. All that information in the inspector of a file is worth understanding. Like bitrates. That took me years before I learned. I didn't need 100GB files upon export...
Mate, I've been struggling with this for months now, endlessly tweaking color management settings, and the solution was just a couple of clicks away! Thanks, this is a life saver!!!
For those that find this after color grading an entire project, you can simply apply a color space transform to the entire timeline set to Rec 709-A gamma to Rec 709 Gamma. You'll have to play around with the adaptation slider. Applying a gamma adjustment of -.05 also seemed to work pretty well.
Can you explain this further? I mean in regards to input/out space and gamma - I'm trying but I won't convert to my original grade. I can't set it from 709-A to 709, only the other way around, on the one node on one clip, which also begs the question how to applt to the entrie timeline?
@@emil4226Change the Clip - Timeline slider to Timeline. Add a Color Space Transform Effect. Change input gamma to Rec 709-A. And output gamma to Rec 709. Mess with the adaptation slider until it looks right. Somewhere around 14 should get you going in the right direction.
@@wright96d I'm a bit confused here. So, I graded a little project, exported and put on RU-vid. Looks horrible. I found and followed the tutorial in this video and your guide to fixing an already graded project. But if I add a color space transform from Rec.709-A to Rec.709 on the timeline, it looks like it just doubles the problem and washes out the colours even more. Does that make sense? Any idea what I could be doing wrong?
@@wright96d Thanks. Yes, I already tried that, and it does of course look better. I still had issues after export, but that may have been something else, then. I'll give it another go one of the next days. If I can avoid grading it all again, it's worth a few hours of tinkering.
I ran out of words. I have had a problem with this for many years. I never quite had control over the color ... until today. I believe in people thanks to such films. ⚡️
I don’t think you understand how grateful I am that you had posted this!!! A whole Literal year of just bumping my SAT just so I can match it to what I originally wanted in my timeline. Thank you!
Thank you! Guys, what has helped me to correct an already finished project: Add an adjustment clip for the whole timeline, add a Color Space Transform Node -> Input Color Space: Rec.709 // Input Gamma: Rec.709 // Output Color Space: Rec.709 // Output Gamma: Rechnung.709-A
Yes, that has bugged me for some time in the past as well. I used to do it the harder way - while editing, my timeline color space as P3, and before the export I would change it back to Rec709. Had pretty similar results, but your approach looks to be more methodical, and skips the uneeded color space change before the export. Thank you
So many answers on this. I’m on MacBook pro 16max and so many opinions. yRGB COLOR managed is what they say. Then wide gammut I also heard go color managed followed by sdr 709 then output at srgb But you’ve not selected Yrgb color managed. Interesting.
OMG - this has fixed many years headache! What I would recommend is keeping to REC709A as suggested in Project Settings but set your Gamma to 2.4..and ensure you have Rec709 and Gamma 2.4 in the delivery advanced settings as well.
Had a big project and gave it one more (week long) shot at fixing it after grading.. ended up with a complicated mess of added "corrections" to make the output look like my grading. Back than i figured out that the fix needs to happen before grading but didnt look back into it. Thanks for sharing this info! Its exactly what i would have needed to figure out before my next big project!
I found out last month after struggling for 5 years. I wonder why it has never been a bigger issue on RU-vid. Anyhow thank's for this tutorial. It helped a lot off people. Still it is a problem with color managed settings like Wide Gamut and/or ACES. Cheers
Can't thank you enough for uploading! Resolve should "recognise" somehow the MAC and set this by default. It's depressing when you think you where trying your best to color grade and you where color grading everything wrong because of what was presenting on the monitor.
I can't thank you enough! I got a brand new m1 MacBook Air for editing in DaVinci Resolve and I almost switched to FCPX for video editing as the colours were so inconsistent! THANK YOU!!! You've got a new subscriber!
Thank you, I just purchased a Mac mini and ran into this problem. I have an Asus ProArt which is calibrated by Calman so I was shock when I my colors were off. This definitely helps.
Thank you SO much for this!! You saved me! I'm very much a beginner and have been searching and searching for the answer. So many comments in forums I found online were unkind to beginners and nobody explained it like you did. I'm SO GRATEFUL!! Thank you!
dear lord, i've been struggling with this for literally years. Thank you! This finally works! After exporting it works fine in my mac's quicktime, works fine in my iphone and when i upload to instagram as well.
Thank you so much! I had the same issue in premiere pro, so I moved to DaVinci and when I first saw my render from it, it was as washed out as it was after Premiere, so I felt like this is the end.. But your video saved me so much headache, I am so happy haha
This fixed it for me thanks. Premier and Resolve looked exactly the same! THEN...I updated to the latest update and colors look all weird again. I just don't think Resolve wants us to use premier.
Been struggling with this all YEARRRR! You saved my ass and no more frustration on my end! THANKS SO MUCH! If you thumbs downed this video... REALLY?? My man is a legend.
Holyyyy crap dude!! I've been struggling with this for a year and a half. One of the main reasons I switched to davinci resolve in the first place. Cause it was happening in premiere too, but worse. So I took the lesser of 2 evils. This finally solved the problem!
Dude, you have no idea what you've just resolved for me... no pun intended, Resolve was driving me crazy with this one downside to it... YOU SOLVED IT!!! Thank you for generously sharing it and making life easy for so many who have suffered just like this.
Holy shit this finally fixed the issue... thank you so much. Every place kept saying "just switch in deliver tab to full" and that was not the answer at all.
Thank you! Finally - so tired of being told by so called "experts" that it was all because I didn't have a bajillion dollars reference monitor (which makes zero logical sense).
Thank you sooooooo much for making this video, explaining all of that and sharing it! I have one question, how those videos would be look like on PC or Android devices? Would it be the same as i see it after rendering? For sure all screens are different, but general stuff such as temperature, contrast etc, would it be the same?
This is awesome. Have not been able to edit properly on my Mac Because of this, Thank you so much. Tried many different solutions this is the only one that worked. Curious to know how did you figure this out?
incredible how something that simple can work that effectively! I have an external grading monitor and this was still the way to go... great work, thanks! :D
Hi! I have a question. You export the file as Rec 709, not A right? Why is it actually? And what happens if you will edit the file in Final Cut let's say? Will it read 709 right? or I should export to 709A, and only after editing in Final Cut to compress it somewhere in 709 Colo Space? Thank you!
Great to know, thank you! I've since been working in colour managed wide gamut, so not the same as you're suggesting here, and find I do get the shift when using Rec 709-A for output. But setting the output colour space to sRGB (when I'm exporting for web anyway) keeps the colours as they should be. Colour can be very complicated...!
Internet browsers use sRGB, so you are correct in output for web. Now in 2022 using DaVinci 18.0 I use ACES colorspace, for QuickTime export tags in advance settings: Color space Rec 709 and Gamma 709A for Apple QuickTime viewing.
What works for me is Color Space Tag - P3-DCI & Gamma Tag - SRGB Had been trying to sort this for so long and after playing with random combinations got something that worked
Brother, thank you for your pain (and for fixing mine!). I've been struggling with this trying a tone of different settings, now I'm set. Thank you so much!
You don't have to "re-grade" it (especially if a big project has already been graded and you realize you grade it in the wrong color space or gamma) - just use CST ofx
This has been one of many frustrations switching from Windows to Mac. Don't get me wrong. I am happy switching, but gee there are some transition hurdles that need to be jumped and the solutions are rarely obvious. I am now scared to look at past projects to see if there are affected. I mean they shouldn't be, but...
Thanks lot. What about DR 17/18 versions? There is now Output Color Space under Project Settings, next to Timeline color space. What did you set Output Color Space to? "Rec.709 Gamma 2.4 or 2.2?
Hi. I used your settings and that solved my problem for export. It did not solve the problem when I upload to RU-vid, where the colors again look washed out and not contrasty…. It’s marginally better on Vimeo but I want it to be exactly as I exported it! Any advice?
Quick question: when you change the timeline color space do you also need to change the output color space? I didn’t see that option on your screen in the tutorial but it’s an option on mine. Should they match?
Thank you!!!!!!!! Saved my bacon here! Did a test render of a section of the timeline, mainly to check audio, after grading and had this problem. Black magic should explain this! Thank you again!
Hi! Thanks for the video, but can you try to see the same video in VLC for instance. I think the problem now is that the video it will look too contrasty and saturated in non Mac P3 displays.
but the problem is the source footage in Davinci's viewer will look different at the beginning from the same footage in Mac's finder preview ; so essentially we'll grade from a darker image at the very beginning, I don't know if this will damage the dynamic range or something else tho. I found that without turning on the mac display setting in preference. Change the output color space to P3 D65, timeline colorspace can be Davinci widegamut or 709 it doesn't matter. Then you will get a pretty similar contrast ratio between davinci viewer and QuickTime. when you export, turn on the gamma tag(rec.709) will be alright, no need to change the color space setting.
