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Fixing a Butchered Wiring Repair Another Shop Had Done. 

Wrenching With Kenny
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@fredflintstone1
@fredflintstone1 Год назад
I like the ziptie trick very useful even old dogs can learn new tricks🙂
@michaelschweizer4772
@michaelschweizer4772 Год назад
At least they used orange tape to mark the spot of the repair.
@markhuyette8509
@markhuyette8509 Месяц назад
I attended GM training center at Morse Town NJ the election teacher showed us how to soldier wires and heat shrink them he said that is the best way to splice wires together and he was a GM instructor and had engineering degree keep up the hard work making videos and have a blessed day today 🙏
@larrybrautigam7734
@larrybrautigam7734 Год назад
Great job. Another trick I use is to stagger the wire lengths. So Connections go short to long, etc. And it reduces the s ku ze of the ball when you wrap them.
@RCCustoms73
@RCCustoms73 Год назад
Unbelievable! I always use straight butt connections and even add a touch of electric grease inside to give the wire moisture resistance. Has never failed me.
@cpcoark
@cpcoark Год назад
I use the heat shrink connectors, bare connectors like you, and solder. If done correctly, they all work well. The problem with the HS connectors is the wrong style crimp tool is used. An incorrect crimper will damage the shrink tubing creating the problem you mention. Another problem is when a flame is used to melt the HS, they to it too hot and fast. It takes time to melt the glue inside the tubing. Just because the tubing has shrunk, does not mean the glue has melted. You need to see the glue squeeze out to insure a good seal.
@SeanBZA
@SeanBZA Год назад
Yes i use solder sleeves. Good enough for aircraft use good enough in a car. Just also use an extra glue sleeve over them as well and have had no issues with watwr ingrwss either. Also used in marine wiring where you find horrid work done.
@mitchs323
@mitchs323 Год назад
I used to work on WVDOH snow equipment, We used heat shrink butt connectors, and you are correct, if the wrong crimp tool is used, the connector will fail. 35 winters taught me a lot about wiring.
@garyr7027
@garyr7027 Год назад
Not counting the fact corroded wiring will not adhere to connections or solder worth a crap. Copper or aluminum wiring has to be pretty clean, and aluminum wiring requires more heat if you're using soldered connections. Doesn't matter how good you do any connector with corroded wiring, it will still end up with faulty connections.
@craigtegeler4677
@craigtegeler4677 Год назад
I have trained and worked both in the automotive and the electronics repair industry and started at an early age of 16. I have also served in the military and even worked in such areas of highly specialized equipment and also areas of quality assurance and quality control. One thing that I can tell you about me is that I don't take shortcuts AND I still can solder and weld as need be like no body's business and I just don't get come backs because I learned both the hard way and the easy way of doing things in quite short order! Now that I'm about to push towards 67 y.o. I can still do repetitive tasking with some patience! This is what it is really about working in the servicing, repair and calibration fields! If there is someone out there that can't hack it but hack it PROPERLY, meaning do the job correctly, you are just wasting away at the job and it takes tenacity, metal acuity, fortitude and just plain real guts to stick it out!!!
@DAK59
@DAK59 Год назад
Solder works best if done correctly. The problem is that most people don't know how to do it. The solder joints you showed were not heated properly and the solder didn't flow into the joints. I always solder and use good heat shrink. If outside the vehicle, I use plastic wire loom to protect the wires. I finish it up with tape and zip ties too.
@kicknsystm
@kicknsystm Год назад
There are special crimping pliers (I have them) that are specifically for those type of butt connectors. When used, those connectors work well.
@williambowe8502
@williambowe8502 4 месяца назад
Camera is perfect. Good job as always.
@RussellBooth1977
@RussellBooth1977 Год назад
When I was studying an automotive course at tech while I was at high school which was a joint secondary school initiative with them they did have soldering as a part of their course which is what I did. It's an effective way of joining wires to repair an existing loom if it's done properly meaning that the wire stands or surface which is to be soldered is perfectly clean & either rosin core solder is used or the liquid type of soldering flux is used. I have joined wires in automotive wiring harnesses no worries & the reason manufacturers don't do it like that is because each wire is cut to a preset length before being pinned at either end of the wiring harness. I am actually an electrician by trade & for the earthed bonding which is soldered in behind the meter/fuse box,the wire is twisted together then soldered,the solder is only to provide electrical continuity, twisting the wires together gives it its mechanical strength !
@joehead1294
@joehead1294 Год назад
Little short on the heat shrink, eh? Spot on the repair technique. 👍👍
@andrewfraser8974
@andrewfraser8974 Год назад
Ford Australia in the 80's used to solder the earth points/ wires to a common ground wire. Even some of the power circuits that branch out from a common source were soldered. Not sure how long they did it for. I'll check some newer cars when I'm at the wrecking yard next.
@ricebike
@ricebike Год назад
Learn something new with those electrical connectors. Thanks
@glennfields8121
@glennfields8121 Год назад
Thank you brother Kenny! Now that is what I call a professional repair. Way to go.
@rearspeaker6364
@rearspeaker6364 Год назад
easy to find!
@grumpy4316
@grumpy4316 Год назад
A Zip tie is a great idea, thanks.
@danw1392
@danw1392 Год назад
I should invest in a repair shop you live.
@donames6941
@donames6941 Год назад
I solder some joints, but if i do it dam better than that gobbler job.the connecters you are the best if i have to use the other type i look for the split and try to make it the carved part just works better
@wendwllhickey6426
@wendwllhickey6426 Год назад
Hack mechanic are lazy and just want money ,bad thing there are a lot of them pos😮
@On_The_Farm
@On_The_Farm Год назад
Try using harness tape versus electrical tape. More durable
@cwstout1
@cwstout1 Год назад
AKA friction tape.
@jthonn
@jthonn Год назад
Nice Job Kenny
@jatco84
@jatco84 Год назад
Great job there Kenny..along with good tips on how to do it right..Kudos
@todddiedrich9106
@todddiedrich9106 Год назад
I’ve seen even factory splice with sonic splice and heat shrink go bad and butt connectors go bad especially if you use the cheap crimping tool and tape sometimes holds in water making it worse keep up doing good work
@bobby9195
@bobby9195 Год назад
Well Mr Kenny,had to make a new slide hammer just to remove a driver's side axle, Kia, used 6 ft piece of threaded rod,a 10 lb steel pipe, and a make shift steel stop a pair of vice grips, and it worked lol
@Brian18741
@Brian18741 Год назад
I've been using those pink connectors for ages thinking I was doing great! 🤣I must look for non insulated ones now. 👍
@TimTurner115
@TimTurner115 Год назад
That was a nasty almost repair. Glad you did it right sir.
@ihavethedocuments2580
@ihavethedocuments2580 Год назад
He seemed a little disappointed in it
@simonatkinson6389
@simonatkinson6389 Год назад
I can understand your frustration Kenny! I've tried to solder, twice, on a couple of practice bits of wire and totally failed at it. However, even my pathetic attempts were a mile better than that!! I only ever use those 'butt' connectors on connection I know are going to stay dry. Last time I used any was to repair a friends car stereo that someone had butchered using those horrible Scotch Lock connectors.
@rickschlosser6793
@rickschlosser6793 Год назад
I don’t have a problem with solder if that is your thing, but you have to do it correctly. In that location a good solder job is pretty much impossible. FYI, start by ‘tinning’ the wire. (Covering it with solder first), then solder you wires. If you get the right heat the solder will flow and not ball up like seen here. The downside is too much heat will damage the insulation on the wire. It is very tricky to do correctly. On the bench if you know how to solder. Under the car like that? Never. For the record, I’m not an auto mechanic. I work in industry on industrial measurement and control devices. I actually did quite a bit of soldering.
@johnphillips770
@johnphillips770 11 месяцев назад
The shrink connectors work well if the correct crimping tool is used
@I-watch-at-2x
@I-watch-at-2x Год назад
I prefer soldering, but I know how to do it. Woof, that was so bad.
@shawhavy
@shawhavy 11 месяцев назад
Man i feel ya. Ive been working on these npr's and the guy they have maintaining them was using house wingnuts on every fing wire he touched... i kid you not... its been months of repairs.
@oldbiker9739
@oldbiker9739 Год назад
the guys that cut the cats , must of installed the new O2 sensors Kenny lol.
@stevechandler5006
@stevechandler5006 Год назад
awesome job.....
@michaelknorr6825
@michaelknorr6825 Год назад
No heat saturation when they did the work.
@garyr7027
@garyr7027 Год назад
... and corroded wiring, plus several other factors. Soldering works real good for those who know what the heck they're doing.
@fields297
@fields297 10 месяцев назад
Well said
@brucemadden1626
@brucemadden1626 Год назад
I don't even use those single point crimps(have seen those pull apart); use the professional ones(like those at the factory) that have compound jaws with the correct size anvils, so NO air will oxidize the surfaces or pull apart.
@bobherweg6442
@bobherweg6442 9 месяцев назад
If soldering is done correctly with heat over it it is by far the best connection
@scottnusser6232
@scottnusser6232 Год назад
Nice clean repair😅 just how I do it!
@rjm7168
@rjm7168 Год назад
That heat shrink with glue in it is called dual wall heat shrink tubing.
@ukmechanic8923
@ukmechanic8923 Год назад
You keep saying that vehicle manufacturers don't use solder connections, but sorry to tell you that some do and several European manufacturers even state to use solder when repairing wiring and not to use crimp connections at all. The standard of the solder repair is the issue, not if solder is used. There's no single method for all wiring repairs, different applications, or environments call for different methods. You also said you have never had a come back on your wiring repairs, I've had to redo repairs done with your method multiple times over the years by alternative methods to make the repairs last, sometimes solder, sometimes adding a plug and socket type connection. I'm not saying that you're wrong, just that other methods are more than suitable depending on the circumstances.
@bricktop7803
@bricktop7803 Год назад
Rubbish.
@AT-wl9yq
@AT-wl9yq Год назад
They typically don't. He's talking about repairs. Sometimes they make you solder and sometimes you have to do it like he does in the video. You don't have a choice. If you don't do it the way they tell you, you don't get paid. Believe it or not, they actually check the RO to make sure you billed for solder and heat shrink or connectors and heat shrink.
@Pete-from-Tn
@Pete-from-Tn Год назад
Do you have a link to those crimps? I used to have a bunch but ran out. Need to get stocked back up, like you would rather use those and marine heat shrink.
@AT-wl9yq
@AT-wl9yq Год назад
Not many places sell that stuff. Your best bet is a dealership. Most brands force the techs to use same connectors and heat shrink in the video. I know Ford sells them both in packs of 6. If you can't get to a dealer, you can cut the insulation off a regular butt connector. Then you'll just have to find the heat shrink.
@jovangrbic97
@jovangrbic97 Год назад
Eh, dont agree in the not soldering anything part Kenny, you ask where is there even one factory soldered connection on a vehicle, how about *every* circuit going to a module/board, every single connector pin on the board and all the on-board connections are... SOLDERED...
@jameybarisoff
@jameybarisoff 9 месяцев назад
I repaired a pigtail for the throttle position sensor and it came with little butt connectors. However couldn't use them properly. The factory service manual said I needed special Rotunda crimping tool. I tried with my tool and couldn't get a good crimp. So I soldered them. But I did a nice job and used the heat shrink and works fine. Do you use a professional crimping tool?
@DocZoidberg549
@DocZoidberg549 11 месяцев назад
I don't solder connections ether, i use marine grade crimp connectors with heat shink. I have the special crimp tool that does not put holes in the heat shrink.
@marinescott7790
@marinescott7790 11 месяцев назад
Hey Kenny, great video! Where can I get a kit of different connectors like you use? What type of crimpers?
@russriley3005
@russriley3005 11 месяцев назад
ford did use solder in wire harnesses on 1986 f 150
@ginog5037
@ginog5037 7 месяцев назад
Kenny, some repairs do require soldering...
@ronaldbrosius7488
@ronaldbrosius7488 Год назад
If the butt connect with heat shrink splits, you are using the wrong part of your crimping tool!!!(use the correct tool, the will never split!)use the circle hole on crimpers, Not the other one, they are for none insulated terminals
@quietsignal
@quietsignal Год назад
Interesting that the dog channels have 1,000,000 subscribers, the farm wife chicks are trending.
@quietsignal
@quietsignal Год назад
Cool. Where can I find a red, blue and green tape combo kit?
@goodcitizen64
@goodcitizen64 Год назад
Great job Kenny! That wiring repair was atrocious!!
@robertforrester4019
@robertforrester4019 Год назад
Professional or Diy that's bad.... cheers from northern indiana usa
@paulsullivan6392
@paulsullivan6392 Год назад
Talk about a hack job...Yikes....nice repair my friend.
@toddp3314
@toddp3314 Год назад
The reason why car manufacturers do not solder is because all of the wiring is made by a different manufacturer and sent to them. They just hook the pre-made harnesses together. It is all about speeding up production. No wiring is made in house.
@bricktop7803
@bricktop7803 Год назад
There is that, and the fact that soldered joints will break and fail on a motor vehicle. The environment is too harsh for soldered joints, and of course mechanical breakage and galvanic corrosion. wire to solid solder is a fatigue point, and butt connectors are more flexible.
@thevictim2072
@thevictim2072 11 месяцев назад
You can successfully solder any wire on a car except for O2 sensor wires. The wires are an alloy that will not accept solder.
@jdtractorman7445
@jdtractorman7445 Год назад
People use the wrong crimpers if they poke holes in the adhesive lined splice sleeves. That's not the sleeve's fault. Spend the money and buy a quality set of crimpers. I used to work for a GM car company and in their connector repair kits they would have that style of splice sleeve in them. They are not as bad as some people make them out to be, they just have to be crimped correctly. GM actually supplied a great set of crimpers in their electrical repair kits they would send to the dealerships. I bought a set just like them, they work perfect.
@patricksimmons7449
@patricksimmons7449 Год назад
wow
@jefferypowell9885
@jefferypowell9885 Год назад
I've seen soldered wires brake off
@mlieser1230
@mlieser1230 Год назад
The bigger the glob the better the job. I too prefer the bare butt connectors and heat shrink.
@GarryFishermusic
@GarryFishermusic Год назад
Well on the positive side at lest if the person continues to fix in’ cars you and other professionals will have steady redo work , ouch though .
@SeanBZA
@SeanBZA Год назад
Must be an exhaust place. They can barely work with premade exhaust parts and think they are the most pro around.
@russellstephan6844
@russellstephan6844 Год назад
Soldering is not used OEM because it's too material and labor intensive. A well-done crimp or a well-done solder joint will last the life of the vehicle. The term to key on is, "Well-done," however. Me? I solder and follow up with sealing heat shrink. If the heat shrink doesn't have glue, I dab the bare joint with liquid insulation prior to sliding the heat shrink tubing over. I also usually use two sections of heat shrink tubing to cover the joint.
@ricebike
@ricebike Год назад
Yes, I seen pine hollow diagnostics in PA... Ivan does excellent solder jobs Doesn't over- do it since too much and it'll act like an in line resistor
@russellstephan6844
@russellstephan6844 Год назад
@@ricebike "In-line resistor" Go to your electronics kit and pull the spool of solder. Cut a inch-long section of solder off the spool. Using alligator clips measure the 1" long piece with a multimeter on the resistance setting. Report the results to this comment thread so we can see how bad that in-line resistance is...
@markb3129
@markb3129 Год назад
Kenny stop beating around the bush that whomever did the wiring harness was a hack🤣! Good job on doing it the correct way. Where do you get that type of wire connector? ✌🏻
@rjm7168
@rjm7168 Год назад
The reason the factory doesn't soar connections is because it takes a lot longer and solder joints can crack if not done right.
@BADD400
@BADD400 Год назад
Good video Kenny, where do you get those connectors from?
@AT-wl9yq
@AT-wl9yq Год назад
They're just uninsulated butt connectors. They usually don't sell them in most hardware stores. If you get regular ones, you can cut the plastic insulation off the connector with a razor. Just be careful not to cut your fingers. If you live near a Ford or Lincoln dealer, go into the parts department and ask for the wire repair kit that techs need to use for warranty repairs or recalls. They give you 6 connectors and 6 pieces of high temp heat shrink that has glue in it. The strips of hear shrink are usually long enough for you to cut them in half, so you have some extras. The only thing I would recommend that's different that what Kenny does, is use different electrical tape. You want high temp electrical tape. Its easy to tell because its made out of cloth. Its also a lot stronger than regular electrical tape.
@XPFTP
@XPFTP Год назад
knew a blind guy who rebuilt small engines. was very very very good at it.. i bet he could wire better then who ever did that so called repair lol
@carlcarlandcarl
@carlcarlandcarl 11 месяцев назад
were the wires reading the sensor but was sending a bad/intermittent signal? or did it not work at all? i honestly don't care how solders look as long as they work, they don't break and are properly shrink wrapped.
@kyletuttle9064
@kyletuttle9064 11 месяцев назад
Need to work in a school district.that almost looked good compared to what I see.plus almost all of the mechanics use the shotgun parts cannon
@lowbudgetbob1155
@lowbudgetbob1155 Год назад
You need to call these shops out. People need to know who to stay away from...
@rjm7168
@rjm7168 Год назад
I hate those butt connectors too. They suck. I always use a bare connector and a separate piece of heat shrink tubing.
@danaowen9014
@danaowen9014 Год назад
Your repair looked like factory.
@n6dl321
@n6dl321 Год назад
cold acid core job.. definitely not NASA spec
@bobwhammer4237
@bobwhammer4237 11 месяцев назад
....and I don't trust crimped connections. If u solder correctly and cover with shrink tape you'll have a secure connection that will last.
@johnleinen7167
@johnleinen7167 Год назад
The shops will have their lubergoober do the work because 18.00 an hour VS. You at 50.00, this is the outcome.
@rjm7168
@rjm7168 Год назад
I don't think that that repair was by someone who didn't care because they obviously tried hard to do something. I think it's more that they just didn't know what they were doing
@Mustangg16
@Mustangg16 11 месяцев назад
If the solder isn't broken it's a good condition.
@mikeburnett7028
@mikeburnett7028 Год назад
What type of crimper do you use?
@AT-wl9yq
@AT-wl9yq Год назад
If you look at pretty much any crimping tool, they have an option for insulated and uninsulated crimps. You need to use the one for uninsulated. If you're not sure, the insulated crimper crimps in the center of the connector and the uninsulated crimp cups around the connector. One leaves a big dot in the center of the connector after you crimp it. Use the other one.
@dricklorenz9340
@dricklorenz9340 11 месяцев назад
Watch "Kenny Kan't" at 4:45
@mikeadams3131
@mikeadams3131 11 месяцев назад
When all the connections end up at a module-and they all do-the printed circuit boards inside the module have components that are soldered in place. I don’t think you give enough credit to soldered joints. They do have to be done correctly. If the connection is mechanically secure, adding solder will definitely improve the resistance and possibly keep out corrosion.
@michaeld1340
@michaeld1340 4 месяца назад
o2 sensor why did they not use the connector? dont understand why they cut it I replaced a few in my time never cut one to install a o2 sensor cut the wires to remove the sensor
@emii4233
@emii4233 Год назад
Dont even change oil lol😂😂😂
@MikeMcAuliffe-g2f
@MikeMcAuliffe-g2f Год назад
IDK Kenny if that repair person cared or not, but he/she definitely didn't know how to do it. If that repair didn't clear the codes, I suppose the owner said, "go find another shop to fix this".
@LesReeves
@LesReeves Год назад
Are you sure it was done at another shop ? & not to be a nitpicking asshole but they do solder in vehicles (ECM) for one.Cheers
@DAK59
@DAK59 Год назад
The reason they don't solder joints when building a car is time. A crimped joint takes seconds. Soldering a joint takes more skill and takes longer.
@ewconway
@ewconway Год назад
Thank you for this video and your professional repair of this wiring that was an abortion created by “Joe X the Rag Man”. People need to be made aware of these poser mechanics.
@henryking8749
@henryking8749 Год назад
I agree 110 % Poor mechanic
@quietsignal
@quietsignal Год назад
I think the time has come, much like all dinos, that Kenny needs to hang up his tools and just collect his social security checks.
@bobherweg6442
@bobherweg6442 9 месяцев назад
Heat shrink...
@JR-bj3uf
@JR-bj3uf Год назад
That's not solder. That's a blob. Solder flows. You do not just stack blobs of solder. There are so many better ways to make wire butt connections.
@C1Ksdafafdsa980ufsd
@C1Ksdafafdsa980ufsd Год назад
To me it looks like the red electrical tape was heat damaged, and the original wiring had some kind of insulation or heat shield on it. I'm a bit disappointed after all that that your repair simply was wrapped with electrical tape with no apparent additional heat shielding. Is there also high temp wire? I do like soldering. Not perfect, but it gives a good solid connection. I've had too many no-solder connections fail (usually done by other people). Those fold over clip type quick connections are the worst. I've also had factory crimp connections fail.
@zeroquanta4252
@zeroquanta4252 4 месяца назад
the SOLDER itself,,,,,,, DOES CAUSE RESISTANCE
@victorjeffers1993
@victorjeffers1993 11 месяцев назад
I detest anyone who does a hack job when doing work on anything especially a vehicle ! My Dad always told me if it was worth doing then it was worth doing it right the first time !
@quietsignal
@quietsignal Год назад
Must be really hurting for mechanics in SC. I need venture capital to set up shop.
@rjm7168
@rjm7168 Год назад
Lots of other mechanics do solder wires but they do a way better job of it. What you show there was really horrible.
@dans_Learning_Curve
@dans_Learning_Curve Год назад
Was this the issue with the car?
@ricebike
@ricebike Год назад
YES, the bad wiring didn't send the proper signals to the ECU/ ECM... So that triggered the trouble code for P0420-0430 He rule out the aftermarket converters since it looked fairly new as well Of course, some aftermarket converters are not made as well as OEM (they cheat on less honeycomb material inside)
@BrianD-w8x
@BrianD-w8x Год назад
That is just ungodly the worst wire repair ever, my 7 year old son could do better. I'm so sorry you gotta come across this kinda garbage, but hey if you didn't Kenny you wouldn't have videos to keep us amused. Good job brother and keep up the good work👏👏
@jefferypowell9885
@jefferypowell9885 Год назад
Some one didn't know how to solder
@on-site4094
@on-site4094 Год назад
Doesn’t. Automotive factory. uses black fabric tape ?
@AT-wl9yq
@AT-wl9yq Год назад
I'm sure there are some exceptions, but yes. Its stronger and rated for much higher temperatures.
@rubberchuck5
@rubberchuck5 Год назад
Check the rework vids on chinese cars bikes and scooters ,,,,,,,,,, they remove most of the factory plugs as there cheap crap with no weather/water proofing in them , and solder the wires ,,,,,
@randyschnurbusch9185
@randyschnurbusch9185 Год назад
All circuit boards are soldered. Lol just messing with ya.
@quietsignal
@quietsignal Год назад
Whatever, can’t remember got it somewhere, doesn’t matter. Sounds like a politician we all know?
@garyr7027
@garyr7027 Год назад
No sense in even trying to solder connections if it's not done correctly, just a waste of time and aluminum wiring is harder to solder because it requires more heat. This is a pure example of a crap job that actually could have been soldered correctly but wasn't. The problem people have with soldering connections is it's not done right and it gives soldering a bad rapp. Absolutely nothing wrong with soldering connections if you know what you're doing. Problem is most people either don't know or just can't get it done right... or don't care to even try. Soldering takes skill, the proper equipment and practice to perfect. Stop blaming soldering, it's not the solder, it's the guy doing it.
@strobelightaudio
@strobelightaudio Год назад
using soldered connections in areas where there's high heat just doesn't make sense.
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