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Fixing a Viewer's BROKEN Gaming PC? - Fix or Flop S2:E20

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@GregSalazar 2 года назад

I noticed a few comments mentioning the order of testing, and you're 100% correct. The eBay motherboard + CPU _should_ have been tested separately... independent of the viewer's rig. Hindsight is 20/20 and it was a clear blunder on my part. Even had to go back and watch that part myself to really grasp what happened chronologically (this was filmed several weeks ago). Also, bear in mind that not everything is filmed, let alone included in the final cuts of these videos. Many have mentioned things like coolers, drives, etc. All that said, I _highly_ doubt the CPUs from the viewer's rig shorted the eBay motherboard. Even if they were fried by the original motherboard, the odds that they, in turn, were capable of frying another mainboard are *extremely* small. Either way, the result would have been the same, I'm afraid. Even if the eBay platform worked at the onset, both would have eventually met their demise in the viewer's rig because I had every intention of slotting in his 4930K as it was the superior chip.

@BestShootermanUbz 2 года назад

Hi Greg :)

@GTArajgaming 2 года назад

Maybe something caused a short in the case which fried the PCI-E slots? I could very well be wrong but the PC's owner didn't seem to be taking care of the system that well so I wouldn't be surprised if there was debris or something which caused a short somewhere on the board(s) just my two cents (don't sue me jay please)

@m8x425 2 года назад

Buildzoid did a video on testing questionable CPUs. According to that video a bad CPU can kill a motherboard. IIRC, a bad CPU can pull too much voltage, uneven voltage, or short out of the VRMs which can cause certain VRMs to fry. Pull off the VRM heatsinks and check the VRMs and Inductors. I have a soft spot for the x79 platform because I got a solid 10 years out of my old Rampage IV Extreme.... before I retired it. Upgraded from the 3930k to the 4930k.... then to the E5-1680 v2. Back in 2016 I ran into an unusually random issue with an old P67 WS Revolution board and a 2600k. The Graphics card wouldn't work in any PCI-E x16 slot I tried, but graphics would work if I used one of those PCI-E x1 Risers the miners use in a PCI-E x1 slot. I even tried testing with a 2500k and a Sandy Bridge Pentium g645. Several months later I came across an i7-3770 non-K and I put it in that P67 WS Revolution system and the PCI-E x16 slots worked.... all of them. Then I tried with a 3570 non-k and a 3770k and the slots worked. The board wouldn't work correctly with a Sandy Bridge CPU but it worked fine with an Ivy Bridge CPU.

@GuybrushThriftweed 2 года назад

You'll never know now :) As you said,you should have tested the combo before installing it and with a known working supply. Everybody can make mistakes like this once in a while,even on YT. My best guess something from the PC fried the new mainboard too.

@ADZ1LL4 2 года назад

Why are you deleting respectful, constructive comments? Greg you reek of insecurity. Quick hop-to it! Delete! Delete! Delete! Unsubbed.

@xkannibale8768 Год назад

I figured it out, if you go to 17:45 you can see there's a motherboard standoff in the 1st and 3rd PCI-E slot. There should only be 1. The 3rd is used for m-atx boards. This shorted the first board, and since you immediately threw in the new board without testing out of case the same standoff shorted the second board.

@Thisisstupid4life Год назад

how is this not upvoted?

@meaty0025 Год назад

Oh shit he's right! and that roughly lines up with why one of the pci-e slots on the evga board was completely dead.

@parkerjorgensen8330 Год назад

Can we get this upvoted so he can see it guys?

@xkannibale8768 Год назад

@@parkerjorgensen8330 Yeah, I'm surprised it never got upvoted. I posted that comment within a week after this video was uploaded. He went crazy saying he changed every single variable, multiple cpus, gpus, motherboards, power supplys, RAM kits, but the variable he never accounted for was the case. You always have to take that into account. I've done my fair share of PC diagnostics over the years, and I've found when a PC has issues the first thing you should assume is just that it was built wrong in some way. So I take it out, test everything outside of the case and see what happens. It's definitely an experience thing, if he's never seen this before I can get how it would never even cross his mind, but I hope he saw the comment at some point and learned from it because motherboard standoffs in the correct spot are the very first thing you should check when building a PC.

@HyoukaAnalystLore3452 Год назад

If you would be a real "PC Expert" you would know that its not the reason lmao.@@xkannibale8768

@PCBuilderChannel 2 года назад

My goodness you are a saint! About half way through this I would have just given up and pulled out a $68 i3 10100F, $70 B560 motherboard, and a $45 kit of 2x8GB DDR4 3200 CL16 and called it a day! Great video and series as always, and you go above and beyond the call of duty.

@luferpd 2 года назад

Hey I watch your videos, nice to se you here too ☺

@shadylite 2 года назад

Hey Jason! I've literally got one of your videos playing on my TV right now lol

@HipocratesR 2 года назад

Thinking about giving a sub to your channel, been thrown my way by the algorithm several times already, nice suggestion $150 and call it a day and even way way modern than the original platform.

@-darkangelic- 2 года назад

Yeah but would Mr Bear approve? 🐈‍⬛😂

@lilysiagian 2 года назад

Hi, Jason. Nice to meet you here 😁

@batsgamer1767 2 года назад

You know greg is pissed when he stops calling his gpu "our trusty gt 710" and starts calling it a "cheaper gpu"

@bradyharr3483 2 года назад

That’s because it is an AMD card and not a gt710. He finally realized a couple of videos ago lol

@djchuckey 2 года назад

@@bradyharr3483 do you recall which video it was?

@bradyharr3483 2 года назад

@@djchuckey I believe it was the last fix or flop.

@saintgtx 2 года назад

@@djchuckey Fix or Flop S2:E19 - Minute 5:04

@elusivelectron 2 года назад

Should've spent the extra $100 on the exact motherboard with debug display.

@jeffreypaul9428 2 года назад

The series is much more genuine if there's the possibility of a Flop. If everything were a fix, it wouldn't be as interesting to watch! So wouldn't feel bad, you fix damn near all of them and a Flop just makes the series real.

@carbon_no6 Год назад

Imagine being the owner of the computer and being made aware of just how dirty the computer is and just how Greg feels about it as it was shared on video. 🥴

@AJgamersAJ Год назад

Well mot cleaning a pc is the number one reason most pc's die (they will start to overheat and people ignore that)

@RAVAG3DH3AD Год назад

he has started doing this more and more, starting to switch videos off when he does it now.

@Rabbit640 Год назад

It was dirty tho. And that’s his honest opinion. If you know you’re dropping you PC off to a RU-vidr Repair person who is gonna make content in exchange for a free repair…….clean the PC beforehand.

@xBintu Год назад

@@Rabbit640 yes thats the least to do, from that i see what kind of person the owner is

@Simon-fr4ts Год назад

I fixed a 1 year old laptop (Windows 11) that was infected with ransomware from a work colleague as a favour. I did not mind as it was a simple reinstall and no sensitive data. What really annoyed me was the state of the laptop. No joke, it had what looked like pubic hair on it and was covered in stains of god only knows what. I had to deep clean it with rubber gloves on before I could even touch it. I told him that I was ready to hand it back to him and refuse to fix it. Some people are disgusting.

@Bi9Clapper 2 года назад

Man that PC looks like a nightmare. Mad respect for you trying as hard as you did man. My opinion dude should just upgrade his platform. Excited to see what you do in S3 and beyond

@GregSalazar 2 года назад

I appreciate it! Season 3 has been going well so far! ☺️

@Joreel 2 года назад

Honestly if it's that old, it's definitely time to upgrade to a new system. If the Ram, GPU, PSU, Hard drive, etc are still good then it shouldn't be that expensive to just buy a new motherboard and CPU combo along with a new CPU fan lol.

@bigbubba0439 2 года назад

Yeah, since why would you even run rickety old hardware like that anyway? I understand using something to its fullest but if it's that old and it breaks, just replace it as a consumer. You spent it well (as in the owner of the system). A 4th gen i7 is not worth saving

@lancemcque1459 2 года назад

Failure shows that this series is for REAL!!! Really good content. I've personally learned so much from this series. Can't wait for season 3!

@linuxtuxvolds5917 Год назад

What I've learned is, if there's a problem, treat it like debugging Skyrim mods! Disconnect everything until you get issues! In one case a guys NVME SSD caused a system to not POST

@nismogurl 2 года назад

Even though you think you "failed", the video shows how much you care about the series and how far you go to ensure you do everything you can to give the viewer a working PC in return. Thanks for the content and teaching me a few things I would've not learned anywhere else! Thank you for an awesome season of FoF! ❤❤

@bushwacker8278 Год назад

Dude... Massive respect for your persistence, I would have bailed about 4 hours in. Regardless of the result, I thoroughly enjoyed this one as per usual!

@GregSalazar Год назад

Much appreciated!

@eyekona 2 года назад

Some of these older boards do the same thing with the 5 beeps when no keyboard was connected at ps2 and would outright refuse to start or show a picture. Would be funny if that was the problem all along. Did you test the ebay rig beforehand? Maybe the dead cpu - or the fan - had a short and killed the board? Had this happen to me. It's rare but happens.

@JMatrx 2 года назад

I've never owned x79 (I had and still have plenty of p67/z77/h77/z87/z97), but THAT would be funny.

@NickM13 2 года назад

I’ve had this issue before!

@dex32145 2 года назад

I shorted a beautiful x99 Classified board luckily the CPU survived but yeah If i had access to your hardware inventory Id always plug it into a new seasonic platinum 😀

@masterguru88427 2 года назад

@@NickM13 same. I keep ps/2 keyboards on hand because of x79.

@christphern 2 года назад

My fairly modern rig wigs out if there no keyboard, so it’s definitely possible.

@deenoblake 2 года назад

I remember when I got my new parts (basically everything new, psu, platform, gpu, case etc besides storage) it didn't post immediately at all. I troubleshooted every single thing, and I figured out it was the case causing a short. I swapped cases, and it posted fine. When I individually tested the case - the usb connectors, fan connectors, rgb strips, I narrowed it down the rgb strip causing the no post, as well as the usb 2 connector.

@alltheboost5363 2 года назад

I think you fried the new used motherboard when you put a different CPU in it. And I also think that the slightly failing power supply didn't help the situation. You should have put your own power supply on the new motherboard/cpu with your own Ram and your own test GPU to verify that it was good. That way you have a known base to start with.

@weedthepeople2795 Год назад

This is a strong theory, IMO

@HarryS77 Год назад

Verifying the motherboard with known-to-be-working parts seems like such an elementary step.

@angurishudesu Год назад

Why would the different cpu FRY the motherboard? I understand that it wouldn't work but why it would break it just by doing that?

@ernestohysa9818 Год назад

@@angurishudesu normally it doesn't matter but what the OP means is what if the customer's cpu is damaged and then by him putting it in his used new motherboard from ebay, damaged the motherboard itself, hope it makes sense now

@angurishudesu Год назад

@@ernestohysa9818 Ohh thank you, yeah it makes sense ;w;

@dtowncl0wn642 Год назад

I respect him for posting his failure and showing he's not perfect.

@rasthaproduction 9 месяцев назад

🎀♥️

@martindelgallego5809 2 месяца назад

Respect the humility...

@wesmorris3529 Год назад

I love that you aren't scared to straight up let the person know they are bad at computer maintainance.

@Odysseus1999 2 года назад

I hope we find out one day what was really the culprit for this guy’s system. You might feel like you failed us, but it’s an interesting episode, so thank you for sharing.

@csagro1 2 года назад

GREG SALAZAR --If that is an EVGA x79 classified then it has two bios chips and a switch in the lower hand corner to switch bios. You might want to try that.

@microtasker 2 года назад

I would have enjoyed watching him take a sledge hammer to it more.

@brando3342 2 года назад

BRUH! No wonder you met your match, I didn’t think you were into fixing spaceships! 😲

@lostincyberspaceIII 2 года назад

*time machines

@nicklote3363 2 года назад

fixing spaceships probably would have been easier than that and the amount of thermal paste that had to be wiped up, you probably could do a couple hundred verge PC's with the excess and still have enough left to paint the next spaceship??? ;)

@brando3342 2 года назад

@@nicklote3363 Lol

@Joreel 2 года назад

@@nicklote3363 That was an obscene amount of paste LoL

@nicklote3363 2 года назад

@@Joreel but did you notice that how watery the "paste" was as well??? ;)

@TheGamingWomper Год назад

Don't stop this series, these have been some of my favorite videos by you. I just love this idea.

@diablosv36 2 года назад

If you are using the DP port for display, sometimes DP on a GPU has issues on certain motherboards. And using HDMI or another connection is the only way to get it to display on post. Perhaps it won't post fully without a keyboard which some motherboards can be like that.

@ActuallyAwesomeName Год назад

I don't know much about GPUs. But I thought he was using USBC. Because the monitor didn't have hdmi or DP attached. It looked like two small cables coming from the monitor. I know some GPUs have USBC. My old 3060 tuf had one.

@novalynn7906 2 года назад

He’s honestly just better off building a new rig around the 2070 if it’s still good. This one seems beyond fixing.

@paulburkey2 2 года назад

that's because you're not familiar with X79 and the power of cheap Xeon's when properly overclocked

@novalynn7906 2 года назад

@@paulburkey2 I never claimed to be? I was just simply throwing that out there. And to be honest building an up to date rig wouldn’t be a bad idea unless the games he plays doesn’t require new new parts.

@georgeindestructible 2 года назад

@@novalynn7906 He didn't say that you were familiar, he literally said "that's because you're not familiar", he made an assumption that was likely correct given your initial comment and was right, he didn't judge or anything, he just gave useful information, there is no reason for you to take that personally. Now, what the owner can and/or want to do with said system is up to them, @Paul_Burley just mentioned a choice most do not know about.

@paulburkey2 2 года назад

I know for me I find it more rewarding to take something old and discarded and giving it new life it's kind of like what hot rodders do with old cars sure you can go buy a brand new Porsche 911 but to take a 65 Nova and blow the doors off that Porsche is a lot more rewarding granted old PC hardware is not for everyone because it takes a lot of like what we saw in the video troubleshooting and tinkering to get it all to work just right but when you do it's very rewarding even when you're only able to come close to the same performance

@ChristopherHailey 2 года назад

@@paulburkey2 FWIW The CPU an X-Series not a Xeon.

@Oblivion48 2 года назад

The series that relaxes me and educates me at the same time. Huge fan Greg! Cheers from Europe, Bulgaria!

@nicklote3363 2 года назад

I'm in the UK and love watching Greg's videos as well, along with a few others as well... ;)

@TrashPandaGood 2 года назад

im from bulgaria too nice to see some other Bulgarians also watch greg

@KrastyoKrastev 2 года назад

Another one from Bulgaria here

@Constantin1020 2 года назад

Austria here, also love the series

@mxrt0 2 года назад

I am also Bulgarian

@bdhale34 2 года назад

That PSU intermittently failing on two rails should have made you toss it directly into the e-waste. Edit: A bad PSU can fry parts left and right that's the first part you should have swapped. Test the PSU first in future, and if it fails at anything don't try to save it do not use it on replacement parts cause it could damage the new parts as well.

@cheeky50862 2 года назад

That is my thought process..... That psu has fried the boards.

@erfanpoison7618 2 года назад

My thought EXACTLY!

@clausbohm9807 2 года назад

@@cheeky50862 Note to myself!!!!

@mikmaks7393 2 года назад

Thats true. That happen to me. My rig shut down. Replaced the board, cpu and ram, still won't turn on, Found out the cpu and board got wasted. Had to buy another board and cpu,,, and A NEW PSU.

@tankdjsims 2 года назад

@@mikmaks7393 oof my pockets would be crying

@georgeindestructible 2 года назад

Solid free advice pieces from years almost 2 decades of experience on this, feel free to correct or add something. When multiple issues seem to be happening, you first swap the PSU asap just in case the current one hasn't or won't fry any of the new components you might be adding when you are diagnosing. Sus connections on pins? Any pins? Spray some WD-40 Specialist or something very much analogous on all mobo other component's contacts to make sure there isn't some liquid-based short/high humidity remnant left from some event you aren't aware of that it happened and might be causing the issue, or even do that just in case regardless if you know. Next you start with the basics, adding one component after the other and diagnose from there. Don't want to mess things up with disks which have OSes with certain chipset drivers from completely different manufacturers like Intel and AMD or whatever? Clone the original boot drive and/or whatever other drive you have for that particular system which might need to be connect later in the chain of your diagnose processes as you add things to some other spare drives. Make sure you check with multiple methods and tools that the cloning process is verified 100%, is the same bit by bit, i've seen the best tools, either with software or hardware solutions to fail for either known or unknown reasons, you don't want to start with confidence that might later become a disaster, take precaution measures. Then connect the cloned drive/s instead and compare if they are the cause of the issue. Keeps the original intact and your mind without anxiety as you continue your diagnosing procedure.

@mawrmoth Год назад

Exactly a lot of issues revolve around suspect Power Supplies. Dont just trust them.

@MichaelCordeiro Год назад

Super late to this video but yeah this is a great comment. I once had an issue just like this where the system wouldn't POST and I swapped out part after part. It turns out I was using a PSU power cable that I already had connected to power (from the same PSU manufacturer) and not the cable that was specifically included with the PSU in the PC and that was the issue. Pretty amazing how many various symptoms can manifest due to PSU issues.

@davidstoyanov9270 2 года назад

Just a thought, can we maybe get the customer's reaction to their new and improved rigs? If they're comfortable with being on camera as well as if you're comfortable with them entering your home to see their PC powered on that would be sick! keep up the great work you're doing!

@MMKnight_1 2 года назад

Maybe the pc owner's i7 4930k was so bricked it bricked the new Asus board. You should probably have tested the i7 3820+asus mobo combo first before slotting in the 4th gen i7.

@GregSalazar 2 года назад

100%, my order of operations there was amiss. However, the likelyhood of a CPU bricking a motherboard (in that order) is _extremely_ small. It's often the other way around since mainboards are the things sending power. CPUs don't do that. Either way, the result would have been the same, I'm afraid. Even if the eBay platform worked at the onset, both would have eventually met their demise in the viewer's rig because I had every intention of slotting in his 4930K :-/

@GreenG69 2 года назад

@@GregSalazar it also could've been the PSU or gpu that bricked the new Asus motherboard. even tho u tested the PSU there could have still been something wrong with it

@Ashachi 2 года назад

He should have built everything on that new board and cpu before putting it inside the case, if it worked then it would not have flopped imo

@MMKnight_1 2 года назад

@@GregSalazar Yeah, the chances of the cpu bricking the board is extremely unlikely, but I guess we never will know what the problem was in this video.

@barefootnhilbily7091 2 года назад

I once had a couple systems identical to each other. one system went down and I started moving components. as soon as I swapped the cpu the good mainboard quit posting as well. ended up with 2 bad mainboards. I thought it was a fluke and swapped the same cpu into a 3rd board and it died as well. so it can happen. just rare that a cpu might do that.

@S0nicHax 2 года назад

i've got the exact asus motherboard and a very similar issue, it took me days to realise i had a problem with the aftermarket cooler putting too much pressure on the socket and the fix was as stupid as is sounds i had to loosen the screws on my cooler half a turn and it has been running as my server for over a year with 0 problems now. (i was using a scythe big shuriken 2b) but the mounting looks similar.

@BakaRed77 2 года назад

I have witnessed this before. I think this is something that needs to be tested on this rig.

@mikerzisu9508 2 года назад

This was my thought as well. The cooler looked like a budget pos, I would not be surprised that it was causing too much pressure on the socket and pins.

@def-po8tu 2 года назад

@@mikerzisu9508 those big ass air coolers are dumb heavy

@SapphireThunder 2 года назад

The dude emptied their whole thermal paste tube into that thing, geezus.

@bobbymoss6160 2 года назад

Hey, if I paid for the whole tube, I'm gonna use the whole tube... is what a psycho would say.,

@philipramsden4975 2 года назад

The bigger the gob, the better the job

@POLARTTYRTM 2 года назад

He watched that infamous introduction to that Gamers Nexus video.

@soumen8624 2 года назад

Dude should’ve upgraded the platform, all this headache should’ve disappeared

@manusoftar Год назад

A couple of observations: 1.- As soon as that "new" motherboard-cpu combo arrived, you should have tested it as it was with a known working psu and ram, and make sure it was working properly, that way you would have a place to start. You would have a known working Mother-CPU to start fiddling with. 2.- It doesn't matter how many times you clear the CMOS, if the bios got corrupted by whatever reason it will not work unless you actually reprogram it. I insist, if you plan on keep doing these pc repair videos, you should definately buy a bios programmer so you can reprogram bios chips. 3.- I'm not sure if you did, but it could have been interesting to test, at least, one of the other two cpu's on the original viewer's motherboard... I mean, perhaps the problem he had was just a nuked CPU, perhaps the cpu had a faulty port which made it not recognize a video card on the topmost slot, who knows. Let's think on this scenary, let's assume for a moment that the original CPU was somehow nuked, you bought a new motherboard (with a cpu that was supossedly working fine), you swapped the cpu that the mother came with by the viewer's original cpu (that was arguably nuked), then when you tried to power on the computer, the cpu managed to nuke the "new" motherboard, at this point you are, supossedly, left with a nuked CPU in one hand and a nuked Motherboard on the other hand, it would be interesting to try any of the other two cpu's on the first motherboard.

@sebaschan-uwu Год назад

100% correct

@TheSpazztech 2 года назад

The ripple in the power supply would be my main suspect, I know you tested with another PS, but from the video it looked like you hooked the client's PS up first. This could have been all it took to damage the new board, and from there forward you are testing damaged parts with a different PS.

@SK8R43 Год назад

Yes, but with zero debug lights on it "should" at least post even if it didnt fully work. Not getting any post at all is pretty weird.

@IamOctopusPrime 2 года назад

This LEGIT the best finale to end a season. Can't wait for the new season🤘

@johno9163 2 года назад

Greg you did all you could on an old system that should be upgraded. And we all need situations like this in life. I always say that we rarely remember the times that everything went right but never forget when everything went wrong. That is called experience. As a tech before I retired, I never forgot the service calls where it all went wrong but it made me a better tech when I was able to work though it and arrive at the correct diagnosis and repair. Hang in there and keep these wonderful episodes coming!

@shizzzxd 2 года назад

Greg I applaud your patience for handling this kind of case. When you could've just upgrade the system and call it a day but you decided to go an extra mile for this one. While it may have been frustrating on your end, remember that this series helped a lot of people out there, including me. Looking forward to FoF S3!

@zepplinc20 2 года назад

For cleaning motherboards get an aerosol can of non chlorinated brake cleaner at auto parts store. It will blast all the crap away and evaporate in under 10 seconds. I use it to clean the entire board, but it makes quick work of thermal compound. It's especially helpful when repasting older gpus where thermal compound is rock hard.

@MrRagequitnow 2 года назад

I had a rig that was brought to me like this. It was nuked, in the end I found out my friend was gaming on it, without any kind of surge protection, or a UPS, when his house got struck by lightning. Parts would turn on, fans spin, etc, never would post. Nothing was saved other than the case and fans.

@Socio616 2 года назад

My current theory falls under the case or the storage drives, I have had more than one occasion where I have a failing hard drive that causes the system to outright refuse to display. But if all drives were removed whilst turning the system on then that wouldn't be the issue. The second issue I think it could be is the board shorting out, it's a rather unique situation where the motherboard will work fine but the system wont display, sometimes killing the motherboard entirely. Making sure the stand offs are all in correctly is important. It's unlikely a CPU would brick the new motherboard as that is rather difficult to achieve as it is since the motherboard would have told you the CPU failed outright anyway. But you should definitely remove everything and only test the new motherboard with the new cpu and a basic gpu, otherwise you'll never figure it out.

@giantheman16 2 года назад

yep, could have easily be, that the owners CPU fried the mobo that you bought from ebay ... the seller whose willing to refund you looks like an honest dude, nevertheless, we all learned something new, with this fix or flop video.... chin up greg, this isnt a failure, this isnt a flop by a long shot.. its just a tiny miniscule hurdle that we must all.. you and the viewers, must overcome... we'll be coming back much stronger and smarter in season 3 boiis!!

@vest816 2 года назад

12:33 Ah, always exciting to see yet another custom-build by a Verge viewer!

@shaneeslick 2 года назад

🤬STEFAAAAAAAAN! Yeah that was exactly what I thought 😂

@MD2389 Год назад

Stupid question, but did you try a DP connection off-screen? I've had systems that would force you to use DP over HDMI at first. Also, some of these older systems freak out if you don't have a KB connected. Also: That eVGA board should have dual bios support with a switch to swap between them. Might want to give that a flip and see if something happens? (extreme oc boards from that era have this support for quick recovery if something crazy happens)

@Die.Gruenen.sind.unser.Ende. 10 месяцев назад

I think the wrong placed standoff shorted both boards.😂😂

@Addeatt 2 года назад

There's nothing wrong with being humbled by electronics! Keep up the good work love the channel!!

@CalvoV8 2 года назад

Gotta be the platform... the odds of 3 cpus being dead vs the x79s, logically, its gotta be the motherboard. You should do a followup on this rig!

@TimBoundy 2 года назад

Two separate dead motherboads?

@soggycatgirl 2 года назад

@@TimBoundy well it's an old platform and motherboards tend to die more often so I would believe that while it's very unlikely, it's much more likely than 3 dead CPUs (Disclaimer: I haven't finished the video as of yet)

@gamelard1963 2 года назад

@@TimBoundy x79 platform is terrible. thats why so many second hand cpus are being sold on ebay .

@fakethiscrap2083 2 года назад

Its the psu. That 12v shorted or fried either the board and or cpu. When you test the pc parts use your own psu first and then put everything together with the original psu.

@NomisSanguine 2 года назад

Sincere question as I just don’t know: is it possible a bad CPU toasted the board? Then when Greg puts that CPU into the new MB - toast. Feel like if he started with the CPU that came with that new board, it might have worked.

@POLARTTYRTM 2 года назад

First ever HEDT build I see being tested in this channel. If there is something I really like, it's HEDT computers. The sight of RAM on both sides fills me with joy. x199 and x299 were my favorite ever HEDT platforms, the AORUS motherboard full of lights is the most gorgeous motherboard out there, and there are entire articles dedicated to talking about how full of art HEDT motherboards are, and honestly, I can't disagree with them, they truly are pieces os art, much more than mainstream motherboards. What a way to end the season, a big, big flop and the first HEDT system I've seen in the channel.

@GregSalazar 2 года назад

We've built several HEDT rigs on this channel :-)

@POLARTTYRTM 2 года назад

@@GregSalazar I don't always tune in but when I do it's so sweet to see an HEDT build being talked about, built or in this case, fix or flop. Any other HEDT builds that you tried to fix? If so I'll gladly watch all the episodes, and the builds too. I've been busy a lot so not a lot of free time, this week I have so watching some good sweet HEDT content will be a sweet spot for me to spend my time. They are so interesting.

@MrBrockLee 2 года назад

At 22:18 Greg looks and sounds like I would imagine if he got stuck in a deserted island with only a camera lmao

@corylove6636 2 года назад

Have you tried using everything in a different case? Maybe one of the cables that attaches to the power button, hard drive led and such could be the issue.

@pmlabowicz3903 2 года назад

Hope this returns for season 3

@dennmod24 2 года назад

the heart from greg means yes i hope

@deregulationIC 2 года назад

Why dont you keep an actual testbench around for next season? Kind of less of hassle to shove parts into another pc, then just a dedicated test bench.

@jhplayz298 2 года назад

Too many platforms to support in terms of motherboard. Memory changes etc. It would be an ineffective testbench if he can't test every component

@deregulationIC 2 года назад

@@jhplayz298 ok? Am4 still gonna around a while, and alot of users will have it. He can still keep an actual bench. With a psu/gpu/ram ready to insert.

@jhplayz298 2 года назад

@@deregulationIC at that point he can just grab an AM4 board when he needs it because he already tests different memory and stuff in the main system to begin with. He only gets a test bench out to narrow down the exact point of failure

@GregSalazar 2 года назад

Wouldn't have helped at all here. I don't keep old X79 platforms around to swap with, let alone as standalone test benches. And your point about AM4 is entirely moot here. I don't really complain about swapping around modern hardware because I often have plenty of it. Doesn't save me much time at all doing it other ways.

@conanlee9024 2 года назад

This is one of the rare series that I always look forward to on youtube.

@Dropply 2 года назад

Hi Greg, I ran this rig. X79/3820/980ti and had the same issue. Been troubleshooting for years and met my match with this. Ended up scraping everything but the mobo/cpu into another rig. Something is up with them after so long. Ram works fine, tested it on another DDR3 build. Just getting it to post with two different i7 chips and the board was impossible. I did run heavy overclocks with beefy cooling. Wasn't about to buy a new mobo or cpu after a decade so like you threw in the towel and upgraded. Aside the dirt, this is a proper setup to a great new pc. Decent motherboard, ram, cpu combo with proper installation and maintenance; this rigs good to go. After a very overdue bath.

@jonnyk2091 2 года назад

you live and you learn, don't give up Greg. showing whether you fixed it or not is the most honest thing a creator does. keep on doing what your doing, glad I'm subbed to your channel. hope to see more!

@GregSalazar 2 года назад

I now remember how frustrating X79 was to work with... BUT in _other_ Intel news, shop now during Intel Gamer Days to save on your favorite gear! tidd.ly/3pqHP8I Season 3 is already in the works

@joshuapae7633 2 года назад

Hey Greg

@jaythekittydragon3525 2 года назад

good try greg

@josiasperez03 2 года назад

link doesnt work, also did you tried the onboard graphics?

@GregSalazar 2 года назад

@@josiasperez03 Link works perfectly fine. Your location is limiting it, presumably. Also, no onboard graphics with these X79 chips... We tried multiple, known-working dGPUs.

@iprof1sh825 2 года назад

have you tried changing the boot drives or hard drives?

@giogram4579 2 года назад

I see you test it out of the CHA without anything connected to it. But the only thing in common the whole time that remains the same is the CPU_FAN. Try to test it with another random fan connected there. Maybe the cable from this old cooler is damaged and causing any issue?

@GregSalazar 2 года назад

It wasn't filmed, but we tested without the CPU fan attached at all. Assumed it may have been a mounting pressure problem. Still nothing.

@Fvviff 2 года назад

I would second this, Bitwit also had issues on a newer build due to not having a CPU fan header plugged in. If the one on this system was somehow bad (not sure how that would happen) but that could potentially lead to why both motherboards were not posting.

@giogram4579 2 года назад

@@GregSalazar Just to make clear what i mean. I am saying this specific fan(not the radiator about the pressure issue you mentioned) to not be connected in cpu_fan header in MBO. Connect to the header any other 4pin random fan

@David-yx3bd 2 года назад

I love how watching this video there are so many red flags that are like, okay that could be the problem. Well there's your problem. Oh wait, maybe that's the problem? As for the seeming neglect, eh.. I've seen worse. You have to keep in mind a lot of people will never actually really clean their coolers. They'll take pressurized air to it, etc. and never remove the mounting, fans, etc. and so to them it looks clean and they see a lot of dirt flying off, but you end up with that caked in dirt behind all the mounting. You have deep cleaning videos, but most owners are not going to strip down their system like that. Maybe just a helpful general monthly or bi-monthly whatever maintenance video on just what the run down is. Show them how relatively harmless it is to pop fans and mounting off these kind of coolers, etc. I've seen maintenance guides on water cooling etc, but nothing just outlining hey guys this is what you should be doing to properly maintain your system once in a while. Here are the problem areas to look at, there really is no danger in removing this or that, etc. Just an idea

@josea.9475 2 года назад

Did you ever try a new HDMI/DP cable? I ran into an issue this week where the VGA light was staying lit, even though I knew the card, and pcie slot on the mobo were fine. I accidentally tried a new cable and it worked. I turned the system off, tried the same cable and i consistently replicated the issue. I know this may be too little too late but maybe something to keep in mind for next time! Could be the Display connection on the GPU may have been messed up

@joshconfer209 Год назад

Have you considered testing the case? Could it be shorting at one of the standoffs?

@LumaBean Год назад

He set it up outside of the case a few times in the video

@lanfear552 2 года назад

Hold on.. is that a bloody windows XP sticker on the top @ 5:50 ? How long has this system been continuously upgraded?

@PixelatedH2O 2 года назад

It looks like the Windows logo from the Windows 8 era, when the CPU was released. I can't say for most of the system parts, but it looks like the mobo and CPU are original to the case.

@xs732 2 года назад

What a cliffhanger!!!!! Can't wait for season 3.

@TheUltimateRare 2 года назад

hehe he probably got like 4 episodes ready. just needs to edit and upload.

@MillisecondFalcon 2 года назад

Not sure if this was the case here but that huge PSU got me thinking, I had a problem with an Evga PSU and discovered that power cables from different manufacturers might physically fit the sockets but they can have different pin assignments and, if so, would not be compatible. Perhaps he upgraded the PSU but used older cables, because they seemed to fit the sockets ok, and ended up frying some part of the motherboard. Even if not the cause here, it's something (else!) to keep in mind. Bravo on your perseverance though, as usual 🙂

@jakibib 2 года назад

Well he said he tested in different rig and it worked so the PSU/cable can't be the problem

@MillisecondFalcon 2 года назад

@@jakibib Oops, my bad! I am SO embarrassed, I was sure he said this one was a rare flop! 😬 Next day edit: this was a sarcastic reply! 😉

@Joreel 2 года назад

@@MillisecondFalcon But you do bring up a good point that most people don't know or realize about the cables that come with a PSU are that in most cases they are pretty specific to that brand of PSU.

@jonboy602 2 года назад

@@Joreel Not only brand but often model. Most brands have standardized their cables in the last few years but before than it was the wild west, even between revisions of the same model.

@bokute2020 2 года назад

@@jonboy602 That's something I have never known existed. So if I for some reasons need to buy new cables for the psu then I must buy that specific cables for that model from the brand or where I buy the psu right?

@davidgregory1076 2 года назад

I noticed toward the end (28:32+) of the video that there are installed unused motherboard standoffs installed. Whenever I see this on systems I work on, I immediately take the motherboard out and check for extra standoffs under the motherboard. I have seen may times new PC builders just install all the standoffs. Because the graphics card works in your test systems but not in the user's I would look for a standoff that is shorting the PCIE slots. This would also explain the new board from eBay also not working.

@Dv8rAssassin 2 года назад

Personally really enjoy this play list it’s given me heaps of insight into how pc’s work. Since watching I’ve rebuilt multiple rigs for friends and family and even rebuilt my son’s pc for his birthday less then a month ago with a aio cpu and motherboard upgrade. Thanks for all your help and guidance even though you never knew you were helping me specifically you do this for all of us and that’s awesome. Cheers mate.

@Toppe. 2 года назад

As someone said already here; im pretty sure the psu fried the motherboards.

@playcloudpluspc 2 года назад

I think you may well be right considering the PSU was failing the ripple test and the ATX specification is already very lenient on this.

@MrBigrex88 2 года назад

I wonder if it could be the case grounding contacts out on it. Did you ever assemble it outside of the case?

@SK8R43 Год назад

there is a clip of him using it outside the case

@LowBudgetKiwi 2 года назад

The odds of both boards and all 3 CPU's being bricked are too big to even consider it. I'm wondering if there was a short somewhere. Either a standoff in the wrong place you missed or possibly a frayed wire touching the case. Even just a tiny nick and it can cause problems, been down that road myself once

@aski1529 2 года назад

If there was a short it should shutoff

@burningthumbs Год назад

I agree with many of the comments; you need a test bed of your own with known working compnonents, which you can then use to swap in 1 sus component at at time to test. Then you can more easily ascertain if its a problem with the GPU, CPU, RAM, Mobo or PSU. Mix and matching in a viewers rig results in too many variables. Plus byuying 2nd hand replacements only add further variables. Your testing approach should be to introduce 1 component at a time to your working test rig to verify that singular component is working. 👍👍

@jerrygaguru 8 месяцев назад

Only time the issue is board grounding on post or piece of metal, I have superglue the non-metallic washers over all the holes when I come across, I also away test on box before I put in the case. But I try and stay away from these gaming machines nowadays because they’re nothing but trouble. I came across a tech that did not know about the latch that holds the video cards in and was actually ripping the PCIe bus completely off the motherboard. I would recommend you look at that on these units that act like that of people not removing the video card properly and damaging the board. I have a size 18 ring so having big hands is no excuse I can reach it.

@xXTrack394Xx 2 года назад

Here is my theory: The owner used cheap thermal paste that was electrically conductive. As a result, when they applied an excessive amount on the CPU which leaked all over the bottom of the CPU and the MB socket, it shorted out a number of critical components. Older boards do not have as much short circuit protection measures, so it is quite possible that when you installed the owner's bad CPU into the new motherboard that it shorted that one out as well. The end result being a damaged CPU that bricks any motherboards it touches. Like what I am seeing in other comments, you jumped the gun and should have tested the Ebay board before slapping potentially broken components onto it.

@disposable_hero1725 2 года назад

Thats true always test independently. With your thermal paste theory (which is a great point) it doesn't take into account the first time his system went down, the Thermal paste we saw was from when he swapped the CPU after it would not post which would not account for the original problem. He Verged the F out of that thermal paste.

@b0ne91 2 года назад

The owner only switched to the 4930k when the 3820k wasn't working anymore. So even Greg slotting the 4930k into that new board probably wouldn't have fried the new board UNLESS the other board already fried the CPU, which then in turn took the replacement board with it. Might be caused by a faulty PSU tbh. But this amount of faulty components taking each other out is almost unheard of.

@635_ 2 года назад

honestly when you said the mb error code showed the cpu temps and they were super low and then the 5 consecutive beeps that might indicate the cpu is doomed was the thing that got me to believe the temps were correct and the CPU was dead in the first place

@TheUltimateRare 2 года назад

could also be screws are too tight on cooler. since someone else had some problems that were just like this one. but who knows..

@635_ 2 года назад

@@TheUltimateRare huh, and i thought the cpu or socket would just break if you overtighten your cooler.

@thedungeondelver 2 года назад

Man, Greg, you really went to the mattresses on this one. It's like my dad used to say: some days you get the bear, some days the bear gets you. Stupid question but it's not grounding on any of the standoffs is it?

@keithfuchs4765 Год назад

I had a system with similar symptoms. Someone had connected a USB device with the plug upside down and bent the USB port causing a short. Sucked to find it after replacing so many components, but i learned to pull the hardware out if the case for testing if I can't find any other problems.

@KyrreStalsberg 11 месяцев назад

Best way ive found for cleaning thermal paste out of an lga socket is a spray can with brake cleaner. Something with some pressure to it ... Then compressed air to dry it out. Many people believe they need to use all thermal paste that come with a cooler, resulting in the mess you showed here ..

@SuperConker 2 года назад

Since everything is pointing towards the Motherboards, there's a few more things you can try: -Check to see if the Ram is fully supported and that it's installed in the correct slots (the X79 platform needs Dual-Rank memory in order to work properly). -Test with a high quality PSU. HEDT-motherboards can be finicky about the PSU (something like Corsair's AXi series, or Evga's Supernova PSU's). -Make sure all auxiliary connectors are plugged in (both CPU 8pin connectors), and the extra Molex Evga likes to place at the bottom of their motherboards. -Check the Torx screws that is holding the Socket retention mechanism onto the boards, if these come lose (during shipping, or for other reasons) the CPU will not make proper contact with the pins. -The Evga motherboard have a Triple-Bios, try switching over to one of the other Bios'es.

@projectapexitadvice1333 Год назад

Great advice on this one. I had a similar issue years ago and it was the ram not being properly installed in the dual channel/rank configuration for this board

@trolzcodzz125 2 года назад

Keep up the amazing work! Absolutely love the videos.

@3RAN7ON 2 года назад

I think the problem is not enough thermal paste

@vixenal 2 года назад

Personal advice but I think it might be the power supply. You had mentioned that some of the volts were a bit high, maybe it was those high volts that completely fried his motherboard and the new motherboard when you tested it. If you had tested your power supply and the new motherboard plus CPU and verified it worked before putting it with his power supply maybe it could have been the power supply fault that fried the platform.

@FlipGamingTV 3 месяца назад

almost at a million greg happy for you bro keep it up youll hit a mill shortly youve taught me alot i built my 1st pc just from your videos and had no issues thank you so much

@GregSalazar 3 месяца назад

I appreciate that!

@tsiturbotsi 2 года назад

No matter if it's a fix or flop, all your videos are a great learning experience and worth the watch. This was definitely a nightmare.

@brando3342 2 года назад

Hey Greg, just got to near the end. Do you think it could have been something as simple as a bad HDMI cable? Or at least that may have been the final problem?

@GregSalazar 2 года назад

The HDMI cable is fine. We've used it several times since filming this one without issue.

@brando3342 2 года назад

@@GregSalazar Gotcha, that was all I got lol👍

@morrisenslin2194 2 года назад

Without failure one cannot appreciate success, well done for keeping at it that long.

@FreeonRumble Год назад

I also had a similar problem with a 10 yr old build. Got a ebay motherboard and same issues. Tried different ddr3 memory and so on. Turns out after a month of waiting for parts I realized the motherboard 24 pin connector cable was bad.. so frustrating but I finally got it

@CGE10 Год назад

I know this is kind of late, but I found that flushing the socket with CRC QD electronic cleaner(comes in a red can), it's a non conductive, quick drying spray for cleaning contacts but it comes out with just enough force to spray clean too. Worked great when I used al though it didn't solve my problem the chunk or thermal paste in the pins was gone, it looked like new, and wasn't anymore broken than before.

@manii_619 2 года назад

big fan bro keep up the great work buddy!

@tomosen4427 2 года назад

I either find this entertaining or educating series

@MyWasteOfTime 2 года назад

I hope Greg never sees my system if he considers that "Extremely Dirty"... Imagine when two dogs live with you!

@marka5968 2 года назад

Funny how he said that it hadn't been cleaned for ***months***.

@jernigan007 7 месяцев назад

FILTHY !!! i wasnt expecting this one ! glad to see my slightly dusty fan is NOwhere near that dirty

@acesontilt77 Год назад

This right here is why I as a computer shop repair owner ALWAYS tell the owner no more. Once I see the thermal paste in the CPU socket its done. Its time to buy and upgrade to a new PC. The time spent on troubleshooting goes into the multi multi hundreds that can be spent on new parts. Love your show your 4 hours away from me in Cape Coral. Keep it up brother you got a new sub.

@killingtimeitself 2 года назад

I have to say that some of your testing procedures are kinda odd to me, it seems fairly haphazard. Personally what i would do is start with the machine as is and do some basic stuff like you do. Making sure it just something being improperly seated, the ram, gpu, and cpu or the obvious culprits here. If this fails i would move to a clean test area, so a known good working PSU, dont touch the original PSU from that point on, I would be wary of potential kamikaze hardware, as rare as that is. do all the same steps with the old hardware on the known good psu. Failing that I would probably just go into a platform swap and do AB testing in order to determine the functionality of certain parts, and like others have mentioned testing the new motherboard and cpu before installing it into the system in order to verify that it was something you did to kill it rather than a number of other things. I would start with the simpler less likely stuff, GPU, RAM, anything else that may apply to this category, when doing a platform swap I would try to implement as little of the original hardware as possible from the starting point so that way I can work backwards and if something does kill the hardware I have a way of knowing what could've killed it. So try the GPU first, then the ram, then likely the CPU and if that cpu kills the system i know thats a known bad cpu, I probably wouldn't try to interchange the motherboard between hardware sets as motherboards can be known to outright kill hardware completely, also it adds a lot more to the testing that may influence results. Just my two cents though. Personally im willing to bet that the motherboard is dead, and killed the cpus. Either that or one of the cpus is dead and killed the motherboard, and potentially back to the other cpus or even new motherboard if you used the wrong cpu initially.

@t3knosoulz Год назад

this system is why I perform a cursory clean every two weeks with some air lol. Anyone thinking you were harsh with your critique of this person's system is clearly forgetting that you do this for free as a kindness to people. the least they could do is have it be presentable when it shows up. I'd be mortified if this was my rig

@vincecooper2672 6 месяцев назад

Cleaning your system at least every 3 years is a must. Dust can conduct electricity. I had a system once that I neglected. & the Dust got under the Motherboard, One day I Booted the System & heard a small Pop & flash of light. The Dust buildup was bad enough to Short out the Motherboard to Ground. The Mobo was fried.

@techluvin7691 5 месяцев назад

I had one of those boards, but it was an EVGA FTW3 X79. Post code reader and the whole 9 yards. Even had voltage test points on the board. Great board. Socket 2011-3 I believe. Very large CPU. They were high end in their day. Buddy made a mess of a good platform. I believe that CPU light does stay on and there should be lights for the ram slots also. In any event, that EVGA board worked flawlessly out of the case on the bench. As soon as I installed it in the case it no longer worked. Pulled it out and still wouldn’t work. These old boards have old solder that is susceptible to cracking in a whole bunch of areas. So contact is lost. Anyway, I heated up the board to soften the solder and then patiently ran a heat gun on the rear of the board being careful not to melt any plastic. It was worth a shot. I’m like you…….don’t like to be defeated. Tried the board again and voila…………..I got a post. It is now my vintage high end working board from yesteryear that I show enthusiasts when they come to my shop. And yes…………it runs Windows 11 Pro. I thought I had a video on my RU-vid channel regarding this board, but I don’t………..damn.

@RaimaNd 2 года назад

The only important thing about this rig is that the GPU is working. Tbh I'd change the series a bit and ask the owner what hardware they want and how much budged they have and then upgrade the build based around that and you would spare him 50% of the money or so. I like the idea to just replace one thing like the motherboard but we all know that this old hardware isn't worth it anyway, better of upgrading entirely the motherboard/cpu/ram. :x

@skatetrash 8 месяцев назад

also like to add, when testing some of these older machines they do not like all portable monitors. had a couple that i thought were borked until plugged into a proper monitor and displayed bios. not a massively common problem, but still happens occasionally.

@fictitiousnightmares Год назад

Yeah, I built my rig 5 years ago and it pretty much looks like that inside. I have been scared to blow it out as I'm afraid it will stop working on me if I mess with it. Today I ordered 16g more ram to throw into it and decided I will try blowing it out. Hope nothing decides to randomly stop working as things do on occasion. But it has needed cleaning for a very long time. Still not going to take components out and clean it though. Just going to try blowing the worst of it out for now and throwing more ram in it.

@xaero5150 2 года назад

X79 was socket LGA 2011 if I recall, and as I remember it was a quad channel memory configuration. Not only did it need 4 dims to be installed, but they needed to be in specific slots, that on several MOBOs from the era made no sense at all. Additionally, the mobos were mighty picky on timings and speed. I would bet money that the memory you tried was not in spec, or not enough modules to make it work. The PCI-e in the middle not working was a function of how the board handled PCI-E, much quirkiness on those old boards. I seem to remember a board with several mechanical x16 slots that were electrically x1. In that configuration a x16 card is not going to get enough board power to initialize.

@lethalgames4315 Год назад

I do agree with a lot of peoples comments in here. You should have posted the new MOBO and CPU with all your own stuff that you already know works. There could be a messed up wire shorted on the original set up somewhere, whether that PSU that you know has issues with the ripples, or just another connector somewhere. Ive repaired similar problems like this because i have actually seen people ziptie their cable management and some how over tighten it to much and sever the wire inside the insulation, and you would never see it unless you start cutting wires open (which I do on situations like this because i want answers) But Good Job keeping with it and not giving up. I am actually in Riverview FL if you ever want to collab on a repair sometime!

@martymcfly88mph35 Год назад

lol, the absolute look of pain on Greg's face at 19:45 when the new board doesn't work... WTF. I feel that pain through the screen.

@mikeelek9713 Год назад

I couldn't recall if this was the one in which you stuck your finger into the fan blades. Glad it didn't happen (again). I'm starting to think that I need to do a thorough clean of my PC.

@trainmaster0217 Год назад

Did you check in the BIOS to see if the "boot mode" was set correctly to either UEFI or legacy? If I set the BIOS to defaults on this computer I'm using now it won't boot, I get just a black screen with no BIOS screen at startup. The default boot mode is legacy. Have to hit delete, go into the BIOS and set the boot mode to UEFI then it will POST.

@UTFapollomarine7409 Год назад

yea these older systems act funky at times, i had a pc would not post without a mouse plugged up or keyboard made no sense.

@jamespressey8610 10 месяцев назад

Such a big beefy case for an old system. Like a Lamborghini shell with a Dotson engine.🤣 Also thank you for taking the time to do all this work for free. You spent so much time helping others. I hope you have a great day.

@sammorrow8420 2 года назад

hearing you at the end reminds me of doing a code blue for an hour in the hospital and finally calling the time of death at some military time. Its all there, what you tried, asking everyone if they can think of something to try... time of death, 2137....