Thinking that E!Ike is already half a year old and continues to rule the meta in every mode, and that keeps on getting stronger is crazy. Very cool video, hearing you two talking like this like in a podcast is my favorite type of videos I think. Keep up the good work you guys are amazing :D
Complexity creep is MOST CERTAINLY a thing. It's gotten to the point where I just wait for PM1's videos to come out and be presented in a way that I can actually comprehend. I don't NEED to know all the complex math crap that calculates stat buffs and effects if the unit as a specific threshold, all I need is "This unit gets stats and these effects" that PM1 provides
we need more fire emblem podcasts. also a let play of all feh tubers playing one game. lol congratulations on milestone on twitter feh. 2000 followers!
I really liked the discussion of the power creep spikes. One of my issues is that it has been so much so consistently. It's a pace that feels impossible to keep up with, but you and PM1 always give me hope that I can use my favorites and still have fun!
Favorite change was Rearmed and attuned units being able to use each other’s arcane weapons and echo skills while being able to keep using their prf skills. It gives them some amount of longevity because as long as these weapons and skills keep dropping you can keep your units up to date while being able to keep using what makes many of these units unique (their prf weapons/skills). I wish they did the same for older (remixed) legendaries and mythics as well as refined brave units.
This game is like the population of Japan. Mostly elderly (long time players) and almost no births... With the insane complexity creep I wonder how much longer will the playerbase tolerate the amount of bs of the meta before moving somewhere else leaving the game to die...
I like Emblem Ike but I just wish they would do more with earlier units. Hands down my all time favorite is legendary Ike. But he and a lot of other unit's just can't keep up. Which is why I would wish they do something like, refining a refined character. I mean, there must be a reason why updated skills get "II" in the name, does that mean one day we'll get "III" skills? Or "++" here's hoping for Radiant Aether III.
Yeah i recently got sov catria and shes okay with her refine, its just above arcanes but it is still not there for what she needs, especially being mid in everything but atk. Let alone my favorite SoV units like Tobin, Clair, mathilda and Booey who i just have to pray for an ult since their refines are so old and their stats got creeped far beyond dragonflowers saving them.
I'd like some mode similar to Aether Raids or "hardcore" PvE that limits the units and skills to a specific year / version of the game, similar to Limited Battles but the limitation is release. The meta for that mode would be a bunch of easy to +10 Units (a lot of favs) with lots of available fodder options to build them for that specific meta. The main issue I can foresee would be dragonflowers might be too influencial in such a mode, but if implemented properly it could a nice way for old and new players to experience old metas a make use of old units and fodder for some rewards.
This was such a well-done video! And I always love your discussions with PM1. Thanks for all the work you did in putting together this fantastic video!
You're a math guy... Powercreep has to follow an exponential curve to work... (Unfortunately) The difference between +1 and +2 back then was far more impactful than +7 to +8, so the next spike has to be from like +7 to +12, +12 to +13? Naw, you have to go all the way to like 20 to make a sizable jump. It's why we went from most units having +4 in base weapon and +4 in refine (+8) to now +14 seeming like the defacto "standard"
Thanks for the video, it was great hearing your and PM1's thought on the state of powercreep in the game. That being said, I just dropped FEH b/c I feel overwhelmed by all the skills, statuses, and whatnot you need to play the game. That and the need to "keep up with the jones" has made the game pretty unfun, since every other banner is introducing something that feels groundbreaking and IS is just as stingy with orbs as they've always been. It feels kind of futile investing in units knowing that their shelf life is a fraction of what it once would've been and it sucks the joy out of building a unit for me. It's been fun, but all good things come to an end.
„It’s never been a better time to customize your unit than now?“ You meant it in a way, that it’s never been a better time, to make older units workable again right? And not in terms of skill diversity, right? Cause in this department, especially for infantry units (despite having potentially the most amount of accessible skills) I feel like it never has been as boring as right now, with basically running the same skills one every unit basically being the best option. At least I feel like it’s Gust/GLR, Finish/Bonus Doubler 4/D or N Bonus Doubler, Laguz Friend and BoL/Time‘s Pulse 4 for any of them. I mean we always have sth like this, but never have I recognized this that hard than now. Especially those skill combinations probably make any Infantry workable, but also kinda exhausting and un-fun to fight against. Anyway great talk/discussion/re-vamp of the year. ^_^
Looking back Duo Lyon feels like such an absurd increase in power compared to Legendary Male Robin to me. The idea of us getting a unit next year that makes Duo Lyon look like a joke horrifies me.
Nice conversation For me the aggressive powercreep of 2024 made me stop paying for orbs. I lost the horizon of keeping my units relevant. There was a time where I could just spend a little more and keep my gen 1 gen 2 units relevant. Not anymore Ike, for example, is simply a check. I pivoted to invest in Ingrid to kill him, but then now this is also irrelevant. It's just not fun to chase such hard goals in such a tiny timeframe of utility.
Love these videos! I wonder if you guys will implement weapon refines when discussing powercreep for each month in the future? I know it’s separate from summoning/new skills but occasionally a really good weapon refine can overshadow new units.
So, the video says that it's best to focus on emblem heroes as units, while also focusing on Breath of Life 4, Laguz Friend 4 and Shield Fighter as skills. The question is: Should I focus on merging Timerra right now for having two of these skills or it's best to go for this month's Emblem Hero? Is it better to skip Timerra's banner and go for the Emblem Hero when you're a free player and can't spark? It's very possible to focus on the emblem hero and only end up with copies of the other color-sharing units instead.
at this point they might have to finally change how battle predictions work and how to set up for a battle exchange, at least that's some of the wishful thinking I got for this game so that a complexity powercreep would make at least a little more sense....
I love how Fehology included PM1 as his special guest, my favorite if I have to tell you my honesty of this years powercreep was Emblem Celica for Warping units, also Breath of Life 4 was a great thing to have although it heals you a lot, from near units and I also like Duo Lyon the last not only he freezes your opponents, but Duo Lyon also deals way too much damage, so yeah they are my top 3's, but rather than those three events I actually didn't like anything else.
As far as reccomendations to new players go, just tell them to do all the pve content, and then if they stick with the game they can try pvp afterwards.
Honestly, before E Ike the game was so unplayable with the strong cav and flier lines that just 1shot all of your units at +10 merge. Ike is a lot of people's favorite Fire Emblem character and all of his alts were in a sorry state prior to E Ike. The problem with him is all the new overpowered skills you can put on him like Fortifications and BOL 4 just synergize so well with his kit. Slap a celica ring on him too and he is hard to kill.
Some opinions here are a bit biased towards how they're now, instead of how impactful they were back then, for example, the May banners of last year were by far more meta influential than this year's, Fallen Maria and to lesser extent Fallen Byleth, meanwhile this year only had Nergal as a meta threat, Bridal Tiki was THE savior for a while meanwhile BSharena is just a WEdelgard sidegrade(sorry Joel but you know it's the truth, you even told us in BSharena banner breakdown) and now BFelix powercrept them both, then you put LHinoka there, a unit who created flyer lines and obliterated arena but forgot to contrast her with this year legendary: LCorrin? I mean we all know he's bad, but that's fine, the purpose of this video is to determine which year had the most powercreep and his omission don't do that premise justice. That said, it was still entertaining to listen to you both in this rare but welcome PM1 colab, his assestment about BFelix extra action probably getting nerfed is a fear we both share, it feels weird that this is the third one already, how time flies.
I stopped playing for a little less then a year after brave corrin came out and coming back to the game has been really overwhelming tbh I feel like the power creep has gotten quite bad. Like when I last played brave hector and Ike were both good units but now I feel like the things that made them good are on a b skill that also gives like 5 other things. Or like a weapon that would (in my time) be considered super OP and broken is just average or not good enough
@@danieldiaz-fg2rv yeah I get that I just feel like this year was a huge jump. And with gamepress not supporting feh anymore I feel like it’s getting harder and harder for newer players to join in.
Curiosity what are y'all's top two favorite units? (I say 2 because i feel there is usually a close second to the most favorite.) Mines are Female Corrin and Veyle.
Weirdly, even though we've got a ton of great units/skills since February, I don't feel like the powercreep *since* then has been that bad. Since CYL7 we got e.g. duo Sanaki in October (I think), who just killed everything. Then we had the crazy Christmas banner who wrecked everyone they fought, then DuoSeidr and Lyon came out shortly after and were insane. Then in Feb/March there was another big jump, and all those units dropped out the meta. However, I haven't really noticed a big jump every month since then. The units from e.g. March are still amazing (read: Ike). We've got a lot of very good units since then, but the new units aren't really much better than e.g. Ike, Nergal, etc.
PS. Felix do be nuts though. PPS. What really bothers me is when a great unit comes out (and I either miss it or invest heavily), and then the unit isn't very good by the time of the rerun (when I can either get the unit or finish the merge project).
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