Fixing the worst season of Legend of Korra 

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Has Anyone here watched the bst Abortion-Coverage ive seen? The 2 GOP-Videos of "Some More News"?

Korra was also raised by monks, though of the White Lotus rather than the Air Nomads. Though I don't remember if she was in the reworked Book I

@@caffetiel in the show, we watch Korra get trained and attended by monks and Tenzin, but she still has a home with her family. I think that distinction's useful enough to say that her parents *raised* her, and the monks *taught* her. Whatever avatar lessons she drew from the White Lotus crowd, she'd still draw lessons from her time with her parents, too.

Isn't that what happened in the canon though?

@@noblesseoblige319 in the Canon, he was blamed for it, but it wasn't really his fault

He died young because he spent 100 years in the Avatar State and stuck in an iceberg essentially draining his life. Physically he was 152 when he died. Mentally he was 64.

Rise of Kyoshi novel spoilers ahead. I reccomend it highly, especially to anyone who is interested enough in the series to watch this video. I think that aspect of airbender parentage fits in really nicely with what we see in RoK as well. We learn that Kyoshi's mom was a renegade airbender, whom she was also abandoned by. Her parents kept her safe from their lives of crime but they still abandoned her. Aang isn't the first airbender to do (by other nations standards) traditional parenting but we can see that he's not alone in his shortcomings as a parent. Other airbenders who have come down from the mountains struggle with this as well.

​@@SonGoku-bn5diThis is such goofy headcanon monsense. He was FROZEN. He did not age. He was not "physically 152" when he died at all. If this was even remotely true, he wouldn't have popped out of the iceberg as a 12 yo boy. He'd be a shriveled old man if he was "physically" over 100 years old. Stop spreading such nonsensical garbage throughout the community.

Such an awesome comment

"You wouldn't know much of fathers, would you, having been raised by monks?" ~Zuko to Aang

same. The Avatar is about balance so it didn't make sense to only fuse with the spirit of *order*

it was very odd , loike it breaks all ofthe stablished history@@SerafRhayn

And you would be very cool if instead of the silly kites that we got in the series. We got something that resembled Hindu deities and I'm talking about the multi headed multi armed gods like Shiva and Vishnu.

​​@@itskevinjustkevinIronicly more interesting yeah If the first Avatar was born from the fusion of both eternal good and eternal evil, the Avatar by nature would be a neutral alligned entity kinda like Vishnu, while they do have a job to protect the world, they arent necessarly pure good or pure evil(I mean, look at how flawed each Avatars are, even Aang and ESPECIALLY Kiyoshi, Roku, and Korra) Deffinitly better than Kite Demons fighting each other because "Grr am angy"

how come you didn’t add more korrasami 😭 even a little bit

Right?? Especially in the water tribe

Well they were estranged right and Unalaq lived on the other side of the world. Alsp doesnt seem like a dude that's into familial bonding

The guy exiled his brother & (as of season 3) was involved in trying to kidnap her because she's the new Avatar. Unfortunately he's just not a family guy

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This is the EXACT problem I have with TLOK. The theme of family is mostly forgotten

Season 2 isn't the best season. It's hard to tell. The kaju Korra I can do without. It goes all over. It'd hard.

Agreed, it was such a beautiful representation of the culture that was almost lost finding a way to be reborn.

The only flaw is that zahir is not anymore an airbender

@@pantazacondei5606 not at all, this would work perfectly with Zaheer gaining air bending because of his intense dive into air nomad culture.

Literally every airbender ever after the ones who left the lion turtles got airbending by a lottery, namely being born into the air nomads. no airbender ever "worked" for their bending abilities. they just worked for their skills, just as the new ones in LoK did

@@ntexq2985 but thats how every bender gets their bending

Lol right? I'm still not over the fact they managed to run into one of the biggest 'unnecessary sequel' cliches of killing off previous beloved characters for shock value in a setting that necessitates said character being already dead so our new protag can exist. Let that sink in tho they wanted that shock value sooooo bad they found a way to kill ghosts...

It still amazes me that people miss the point of that scene so utterly, blinded by the nostalgia of characters that you've only seen for about 10 whole minutes in the original show. The losing of the past lives is a metaphorical necessity of the themes of a New Era starting with Korra. HFM didn't rewrite the losing of the past lives-he changed the second half of the season thematically, and so that consequence was no longer thematically relevant.

@@BillErak I see where they were going with it, but it's way worse for the world and future story potential than it is beneficial to the story being told in season 2. People can hate it without being "blinded by nostalgia". Hell, Aang did the theme of "new beginnings" better in the first show by listening to the advice of the old avatars, and then ignoring it, meditating, and focusing until he was able to find his own solution. Also, it doesn't mean anything to Korra since she never consults with the old avatars anyway, so there's not even any meaningful thematic resonance in the first place. If she consulted with them and then lost the ability, it might be meaningful to the story, but since she doesn't, it isn't. It becomes pointless shock value for the viewers and a club on the head about a new beginnings theme, but it doesn't feel real or earned in the story itself, because those past lives of the avatar never really meant a lot to Korra, at least not in a way that was ever demonstrated, except for one scene with Aang when she can air bend. Also, it's silly how extreme of a solution that is to the problem of demonstrating some metaphor or theme, when the overarching lesson of the show seems to be against extreme solutions. It's like they lost the lesson about balance in their own writing, leaning too hard on the themes of New Eras to think about balancing it with the values of tradition, culture, and history.

@@BillErak you can focus on the theme of new beginnings without dismantling a big part of what makes the avatar the avatar. I’m still confused as to how korra was able to enter the avatar state without being connected to her past lives. And how does she know the cycle will even continue? How does the work function without the “spirit of good” at all present? That’s lazy writing. Another comment mentions how Aang represented new beginnings by ignoring the advice of past avatars, and this rewrite shows how korra can still do that by learning bending the original way rather than it being handed to her. I think sure, they could’ve severed her connections to her past lives and it could still make sense and be impactful, but the way they handled was simply for shock value, lazy, and honestly disrespectful to the fans especially considering it was supposed to be the last season of the show.

@@BillErak also… new eras are still influenced by the past. That can never be erased and this season literally focuses on that?

we need a korrasami girls day

Even through her character she needed to move on and find something better instead of just saying static which is what they did to her

@@faith4657 exactly. Because, going by the show, I couldn’t tell you what Asami’s personality is. She’s nice and has a “not like the other girls” vibe. But that’s about it. I didn’t get any quirks from her. Any thing that made her feel relatable or like a real person. Hell, Wu, had more personality.

@@rileybear836 true her character should have being built more on and the relationship that asami shared with mako shouldn't have been tainted cause his a bender and a fire bender which corresponds to her mom being killed by one, this would have been really interesting but no dice. They had the formula but they sold.

Can you PLEASE tell me what Asami said in minute 47:16 after "You send the assasin?". English isn't my first lenguage, and Tim sometimes talk way too fast and I dont understand ToT and that part is an important plot twist 😢

Exactly! This must be more talked about in the Avatar community. Symbolism is too easily lost or thrown away in discussions, missing the point of the series about bending and the setting at large.

The Civil War was the least interesting part of the season so I’d cut it out entirely

@@pn2294 this reworking of it made it very interesting to me. Thats kind of a major theme of a post world-war planet. It'd be boring if the two tribes merged without a bump anywhere along the way. The Civil War feels more like an Avatar theme than not.

@@pn2294yeah I would of went the other direction on focused more on the spiritual aspect and kora regaining her bending rather than the civil war, but then there would be no varrik and we can’t have that

@@RD-um9dy I would ok with that tbh. He felt too much like Mayuri to me. He got away with too much stuff.

Yeah I kinda felt Avatar Wun's story in the original made it clear that the Avatar wasn't a force of balance but creation taken to the level of cancer. (An interesting idea that healing can be used to harm by overstimulation to produce way to much tissue creating cancerous growth).

I still wish they stuck to the Avatar being the spirit of the earth incarnated into a human.

@@justchilling704 When was that ever said?

@@jackgreenearth452 Let me find it. It was something about mmm like that either the earth’s deity or spirit.

@@justchilling704 find it yet?

bro what do you mean you didnt cry at the descriotion alone : """"" D

"the boy floats"... YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY, so happy. i smiled so much there

Eksa could make advances and Bolin shuts her down because, well, she's abusive, she gets pissy and still hires an assassin so the joke still works!

I feel like she could still be in the show though

I mean Korra did somewhat tackle that with kuvira

It's probably because order keeps the status quo while chaos could change hierarchies. Both have positive and negative effects, but people with power encourage positive views of order and negative views of chaos.

My biology teacher always said that stability equals stagnation and progress only comes with chaos.

That's extra important considering it's Avatar. The themes have always been very emphatic about the need for nuanced, non-black-and-white morality and the importance of balancing tradition and progress.

I also hate how “order” is always conflated with “light” and “chaos” always with “darkness”. Fire is light, but also chaotic/uncontrollable by nature. Aang’s carefree nature was a perfect example of “chaotic good”. Snowflakes are orderly, frozen things are preserved (“safe” from the rot/entropy of time).

Yeah but the feel too disconnected, they need more moments where they are all together

The writers should have people getting bending from the original benders 💧 Water-Moon Spirit Koi 🐟 🪨 Earth- Badgermoles 🐽 🔥 Fire- Dragons 🐉 ☁️ Air- Sky Bison 🦬 Leave the energy bending to the lion turtles 🦁 🐢

in ATLA though they explain how the people of the past learned to bend. i prefer it this way tbh it stays truer to ATLA

How about bending itself being given by lion turtles? The different types of bending can be taught by the koi fishes, badger moles, air bisons and dragons.

@@_zenith_139It doesnt make that much sense. Its a perfect explanation that people who are connected spiritualy can learn bending. It only depends which spirit are you connected to. While the Avatar is connected to the most core spirits therefor she can learn all of it

Personally, i feel like the lion turtles should have been the ones to make it so that the avatar was a reoccurring thing

Yes, a perfect example of that are the corrupted spirits. Instead of being a result of humanity getting disconnected from the spirit world and forgetting their traditions, they ended up being nameless henchmen for the anti Christ

The reason for the big change in plot in the middle of season 2 is that the company who were animating the first half of the second season of LOK went bankrupt and fired all their animators so the creators had to scramble and plead with the animators of the first season to please take LOK on again (they dropped LOK originally because the animation was so detailed and the deadlines so tight that they were sleeping at their desks instead of going home and burning out as a result). With the previous animation company taking LOK back on they made changes to the contract, which unfortunately meant that the story had to be changed to meet the animators conditions so they didn’t burn out again.

@@wolftears13 Man how can Nickelodeon allow all this mess to happen to one of their most beloved franchises.Really how the new avatar studios can make better content than ATLA

​@@wolftears13What? None of this is remotely true. Studio Pierrot didn't go bankrupt and the season was already divided from the getgo between Pierrot and Mir.

This is what annoys me most about people who are locked into ATLA’s idea of learning bending. It makes no narrative sense that just being around the original benders unlocks bending in people. There is an obvious genetic componentz The Lion Turtle explanation gives a credible explanation why people can’t just work hard and become benders. If the original human benders just spent a long time looking at the moon or animals and learned to manipulate elements, what is stopping every other guy from just becoming a bender?

@@SuffleKoh13 true but even in ATLA it’s was kind of hinted that having some sort of spiritual connection at all is what allowed people to bend to begin with(the 100% bending rate for the air nomads). But to be honest I agree with what you said because it just diminishes the mystery those with bending.

My head canon when I watched ATLA is the reason the avatar can bend multiple elements is because they're remembering how they did it in a past life. I think it would have been more interesting if the first four avatars each learn one more element than the previous. And the only reason the avatar can do it is due to Raava and Vaatu they are more connected to their past life

This is exactly what I was thinking, but I wouldn't give spirits any role in bending. A key theme of the series is that bending is an earthly thing. Water, earth, air and fire are elements of the material world, which is why spirits can't bend. In ATLA you couldn't bend at all in the spirit world, which I think they should have preserved. I like that they made lion turtles ancient creatures that are NOT spirits. It make sense that they would give humans the power (but not ability) to bend. If you'd ask me I'd retain that element but change that it would still take a lot of time and learning to do your first bending after you've been given the power by a lion turtle.

@@SuffleKoh13 people complain about this but then they miss the point entirely, Bending is spiritual and it is genetic, the original benders were highly spiritual people (not just random nobodies) who took up the cultures and ideals of the originals, they were with them for a long time. That's how they learnt how to bend. Spirituality is the first reason benders could bend before they could learn from those original benders, that's why every air nomad is an airbender.

Same.

Well, it's a rewrite by Tim, I haven't even watched it yet and I think it's loads better than what we actually got.

Agreed. Great work!

Same for the first one

Disagree

Aw.. what a lovely visual 💕

I think this is better. The ending that Tim provided is of course well written, but it is very packed towards the end. This could be resolved with more episodes, but that isn’t the assumption of this video. So, wrap up the civil war with Unalock, Tonrock, and the conversation Korra has with her mother. after some time for things to settle has passsed the conversation between Korra and Asami happens, perhaps Bolin and Mako show up shortly after keeping the same ending Tim proposed with them all meeting up. Everyone is back together and the civil war has been resolved. Short fade to black to make you think that’s the end of the season then queue the transition to the scene with the little boy playing with an air bison in a field.

Wooo. Very poetic and flowery. Love it 😄🎉

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Nickolodeon was in financial turmoil. One of the head writers (of some of the best episodes) and producer, Aaron ehasz, had left, leaving only the two other authors. Plus the animation team was also disbanded. So it was hard to convince executives to invest money in an unsure bet. If it was nowadays, avatar studios could have gone for a fundraising and get the means to do a better job i guess. Buy when i see what they ve done with the live action despite a sizeable budget, sometimes, just not having the right people in the lead is enough for the whole to crumble...

Yes, the spirit world in ATLA was also pretty much a neutral place, as spirits were neither good nor bad. An example of that is Koh, the faceless spirit, as it was a VERY dangerous presence for Aang, but it also helped him by giving the information that he needed

@@narufan987 that’s honestly a weak example It’s like saying the Fire Nation is responsible for technology progressing so fast

Second this! Might've actually finished the show if the storyline was more like this rewrite. I am one of the few who liked the addition of Beginnings, at least until they made it good kite vs bad kite and weird godzilla? I just got so confused about that whole storyline.

@@Asharra12 yeah. Where had it all come from? I like how in this version, the avatar is both Raava and Vaatu. It’s much better this way.

Exactly

You might not be far off if the rumors of studio interference is to be believed, and honestly I could believe that considering ATLA was a cash cow so Korra was up to bring in big bucks if marketed to the broadest audience

Probably most telling is that Aaron Ehasz, the head writer for TLA, wasn't on Korra at all.@@gloomygloomstalker3878

@@gloomygloomstalker3878 Except the problem is Nick at the time wanted to funnel more money into other projects which is why season 1 had to be so stand alone and it hurt it because they couldn't give Korra breathing room to relearn bending [instantly giving it back because it would have been poor to leave it off on such a strong cliffhanger]. Similar to season 2 not enough was given to them and I think that level of condensed time, chaos, and not knowing the future of the show made it so everyone was on different pages and ideas trying to fit in everything they could which got sloppy. The show wanted to be more plot driven, but when the plot falters and the characters aren't their to save it [again heavy in season 2] it sadly is the biggest damage the show can have. Nick I think wanted the money and success of ATLA without caring for the people making it.

@@Unhappytimeaper and all that combined with a missing third writer, and many ideas after the success of the first series collided to make a show that was pretty good but really misses the mark in some places. Again I enjoy the show I think season 2’s second half is by far the weakest segment but everything else was such a nice continuation, it just shows that it was very fragmented

And even then, the end of the episode went out of its way to make it clear that Aang _wasn't_ a lousy parent; he was still a good parent despite his flaws and they were all still a happy family.

See, I don't have a problem with Kya and Bumi saying he played favorites and mainly paid attention to Tenzin to teach him airbending. My problem with it is that with it is that Aang not teaching them about their _heritage and culture_ really stretched my credulity. Like, I'm Indian, my culture is in no danger of going extinct anytime in the next century, but I would _never_ leave any of my hypothetical kids out of the equation when it came time to teach them their heritage. And I'm fully aware that not everyone feels so strongly, but it's difficult for me to believe that someone who is literally the last of his kind--and whose culture was so important to him--to leave two of his kids out of that. (Really, though, that whole aspect of the series has always been a bit wonky. The story has an unfortunate tendency to interlink bending with the nations' culture in a weirdly bioessentialist way, and it's one of my major issues with the worldbuilding.)

I actually get behind Aang not being the best parent in the world. For one he lost all of his family and even his time period which is HUGE for culture understanding. Aang had learned one way of life and then was thrown into an entirely diffrent lifestyle and second Aang was also consumed by his Avatar Duty to make sure that he was not going to be the last Airbender and also he had to accecpt the fact that he was not going to live to an old age because of his 100 year sleep so of course he wouldn't be the best parent. I think he did great given the trash hand he was delt. Was it a good job? No. But did he do what he needed to? Yes. And he did try to fix his flaws even though he never won against them. And lastly, it make logical sense that this would happen because of the state of the world he inherited. Aang had to do things that only he could and that costed him and those around him dearly but he never gave up.

It was literally established in the show that Aang was as good as never home after Tenzin was old enough to train, Katara had to give up all of her ambitions (skilled fighter, healer, diplomat, reduced to a trophy wife, instead of using her skills to either serve the world or teach the new generation) to keep the family together, as well as pretty much always having to swallow her own wants and needs for Aang to feel good, and the few occassions Aang WAS home, he never really bothered with his other two kids, nor did he teach them much in terms of history or combat prior to Tenzin's birth. That the family was a total mess is further cemented by the whole love triangle history between Tenzin, Lin, and Pema. Aside from Lin staying forever salty, it's a 1:1 scenario to Aang, Katara, and any random Air Acolyte girl avaiable during their time. Yeah, Bumi and Kya smiling for a second over a family photo totally throws all of that out the window, lol. They still had a loving mother, she managed to raise them to be good natured people, but they were never rooted to their herritage, hence why they were lost for decades, trying to find a place they belong (which tends to happen to people who grow up in a fatherless household). And the worst part is, as much as I don't hold Bryke's writing skills in high regard, this actually fits Aang's character perfectly well. Never understood why people choose to turn a blind eye to that.

@@newsystembad Yeah that’s really weird. Why did they make it so that Aang ignored his two other kids just because they couldn’t airbend? I mean we see in korra that it’s the air acolytes, non benders that are keeping the air nomads culture alive. And Aang was literally the one who started the air acolytes. Then he doesn’t teach his culture to two of his literal children because they’re a water and non bender? It would make sense that Aang would train Tenzin’s bending, but other than that he should be teaching them all as all his kids are half water tribe, half air nomad. People keep saying it makes sense for Aang to be a bad parent. But this makes him horrible. With writing you can write anything. Aang isn’t a real person. He doesn’t HAVE to be anything. They couldn’t easily made him be a good parent but didn’t for some extra unnecessary character drama.

That could be a very interesting concept, expanding on the lore of the original show in such a way!

Good one! 👍 Very good.

I have personally never really considered the Omashu story to be true, it was just a Mythos within the universe. So i dont really feel the need to prove that. But I guess you could.

Eh, that story doesn't really need to be retold? And I feel like Oma and Shu lived a lot later than Won did.

I’m inclined to agree but I feel like I’d the point is to work the Wan story better into the existing Mythos of Last Airbender maybe recognising some of the existing myths as well to help it along. For instance when he goes to meet with the people who are living alongside dragons, it’s an early encampment under those iconic peaks of the Sun Warriors, for water perhaps a small tribe with tents built around the spirit oasis of the north.

I think that this rewrite very neatly sets things up to go in that direction if you want... like, now that Korra understands that spirituality is the key to bending (i.e. magic), and with the spirits now roaming the material world and sharing their knowledge and wisdom, I could easily imagine Korra and the spirits working together to help humans relearn that side of themselves, and bring back the "magic" of the avatar world. This story sets Korra up quite nicely to be more of a spiritual or mystical leader rather than a fighter, so having her spread the word of how to hold on to the magic makes a lot of sense! Yaaaas urban fantasy! I also think equating machines with anti-spiritualism is silly, you can be spiritual and still use technology

@@TheVivaciousNerd I think that's what he's getting at, have a season or show paint the idea it's not a basic binary, after all a theif with just their hands can be not very spiritual

@@TheVivaciousNerd It would also be interesting to see her walk a path completely opposite of Aang. Times demanded he be a warrior, while he was a more spiritual, "talk" kinda person. Korra is a brawler, but times demand a more spiritual, peaceful approach like you said.

Agreed. But I think your second issue can be fixed with a few tweaks.

I understand that this rewrite keeps the characters apart more than the original, but I question whether Avatar Korra needs a team in the same capacity Aang did. In ATLA, the character were just kids, nowhere was safe due to the fire nation hunting them, the world was divided and possible bending masters scattered, our protagonists couldn't separe even if they wanted to, or risk not finding each other again. In LoK, while I don't know their ages, Korra herself seems to be the youngest in her late teens, young adult years, while Mako and Asami feel like very established in the young adult group with jobs and responsabilities of their own. They can't, and don't have to, go on a physical, cross-country journey to either teach/protect the Avatar or learn more themselves. Also, especially in season 2, with the problem being the spirits and Korra's lack of knowledge of the past and spirituallity, the journey is more introspective (even if she does travel).Also also, in the mortal side of the conflict, it is primarly a cultural issue between the two water tribes (tradition vs progress). Even considering the 'civil war' aspect, Mako, Bolin and Asami are children of the republic with no ties to the tribes (being fire-, earth-, and non-benders themselves), if anything, I loved the way this video managed to give them good reason to stay involved that was not simply "Korra is our friend".

@@anushaamorim4104 I agree with the point you're making, but that's the problem with calling them 'Team Avatar' in the show and in this rewrite (as far as I remember it's been a while). It's not an unreasonable assumption that, when they go by that title, they'll be a team. It's not necessarily whether they should separate, but that if they're just a group of friends loosely connected with each other, it should've been that from the start. In S1 (of the show) the trio are massively interconnected with the plot and with Korra. Where she goes, the brothers go. What she does, the brothers find their way into helping her do or help her defeat her enemy/escape. Setting them up like this as main characters just to have them take a massive backseat in S2 is jarring, and even more so when S3 goes right back to treating them like 'Team Avatar', until S4 changes it's mind again and puts them all in different locations. It's the consistency that I have a problem with, and that's not the rewrites' fault since it's working off a base, but it's a little worse here.

You can only do so much with the ingredients given. Better to have each character have a meaningful développement even if apart, rather than nothing happening with them together. Atla did it with sozin comet, the gaang separated and it still felt fine. I guess you could argue for bolin to go to the south with Korra so tjat she isn t alone.

Or maybe- we scrap that half-baked pander-fest, yah?

I 100% agree! Aang was a perfect avatar, his morals and actions were always aligned and ultimately perfect. He was a great protagonist who let the character development of others shine and brilliantly connected it all together. Korra herself is one of the greatest written characters, she makes mistakes and learns and from season 3 onwards there are lasting consequences to both her and the world which is something Aang didn’t have to deal with as much. She is such a perfect person to have as an avatar because she is so relatable and realistic to the circumstances. Her character development is the star of the show, and it aligns so well with the world development and I couldn’t agree more I love love her as an avatar. I still love to critique aspects of the show and the two but the direct slander of Korra herself to me is unfounded she is absolutely awesome to me

I agree. My one criticism would be that I don't like the idea of Unalaq being willing to use Varrick's tech and even seeing it as an ace up his sleeve. In this rewrite, Unalaq really is a hardcore traditionalist, so him being willing to use the tech, especially with Hello Future Me saying that its use would cause his supporters to falter and even turn on him, has much the same problem that Amon had in season 1: reducing the antagonist to a hypocrite so his supporters turn on him for easy resolution. I think it would make more sense for a plan built around tradition and the spirits to be the ace up his sleeve that raises the stakes (and no, not by him becoming a dark avatar; I'm talking about him using it in a way that isn't damaging to the lore). It would fit his character better and his refusal to use the tech would reflect how order without chaos can cause stifling and stagnation.

@@matthewmuir8884 So like him rallying the normal spirits to fight for the north or utilizing an ancient waterbending technique forgotten by the south? That could work. Personally I didn't mind him using the tech as much because it could be seen as way to show how much he cares for his people/culture, he'll sacrifice his own principles if it means his tribe is safe.

@@brandonhelcher3691 Yeah; stuff like that. I know what you mean about it possibly showing how far he'll go; personally, it was the moment where Hello Future Me said that his supporters falter and even switch sides because of the technology that made me think, "This sounds too much like the Equalists disbanding at the sight of Amon waterbending; it sounds too much like an easy way out", especially since this is not supposed to have an easy way out. I was even thinking; I know I said "not by him becoming becoming a dark avatar" but, with Hello Future Me keeping Beginnings and having Wan fuse with Raava and Vaatu, if I had to keep that idea of Unalaq using the spirits to make himself more powerful in the climax, as dumb as it is, I might consider trying it in a way that _might_ work, like maybe Unalaq, in desperation, tries to fuse with a spirit like how Wan fused with Raava and Vaatu, but because he's not in balance and he doesn't actually fully know how Wan did it, it goes horribly wrong. But this would only be if I was told I absolutely had to keep the 'dark avatar' idea in some form. Otherwise, I would just have him be using the spirits, not trying to fuse with him.

@@matthewmuir8884 Yeah see what you mean about the amon parallels, also similar to how Zaheer and Kuvira have real points but eventually go to extremes that invalidate them. I really like the show but that's an issue I'm just realizing: it brings two sides of an argument then throws one side out the window for an easier conclusion. Also as far as incorporating a dark avatar goes, not bad. He is pretty in tune with spirits, that could make him arrogant assuming that if Wan could do it then of course he could.

@@brandonhelcher3691 Thanks. Honestly, I don't think them going into extremes is the problem; they're supposed to be antagonists after all. I think the real problem is them going into the realms of _hypocrisy_ as an easy way to undermine them. "Amon has a point about systemic inequality. Oh, wait; he's actually a bloodbender. Never mind." "Unalaq has a point about the Southern Water Tribe and the industrialized world forgetting to respect the spirits. Oh, wait; he's actually pure evil and he wants to become a dark avatar and plunge the world into pure chaos. Never mind." Zaheer didn't have that problem, and was the best of the Korra antagonists in execution. He actually sticks to his ideology of anarchy and doesn't go into hypocrisy when it comes to it; the only hypocrisy he dabbles in is that he supposedly has great respect for the air nomads while simultaneously using them as bait and being willing to melt an air temple in lava. The way his plan fails with the Earth Kingdom even makes sense as a consequence of his actions: anarchic societies can only arise organically; immediately removing a long-existing power structure just creates a power vacuum waiting to be filled. Ironically, Kuvira had the exact opposite problem: she embraces an inherently toxic and hypocritical ideology (fascism) and yet the show treats her as being just as sympathetic as previous antagonists. She's a fascist; she's mistreating-her-children away from Ozai levels of villainy. Thanks. I still think the idea of a dark avatar is something to be avoided at all costs, but if I absolutely had to include it, that's how I'd do so.

What killed season 2 for me and my like for korra the show in general was them killing off the avatar state it made me hate korr for years despite enjoying it

Korra sucks

@@theoutsiderjess4869 i disliked that plot point but i don’t understand the deep hatred some people have for it, it ruins the avatar formula to an extent but at the same time it makes the future of the avatars journey a very different one. we have a whole new set of past lives to be excited for, whether or not we ever get a follow up to korra or not is irrelevant to me. The way the avatar and korra worlds where set out really makes you feel like it’s a real world with real people in it and in my imagination they are still out there in their world continuing the avatar journey and bringing balance to the four nations.

i genuanly like the legend of korra, but there were certain things that buged me, for one, whenever she was in a fight she had a whole team behind her to do the heavy lifting, i am not saying she did not fight or anything, she did, but the writers made her more dependant on her friends, i would have made her more firce in a battle and i loved seeing her in the avatar state, she is a badass a tomboy example that i love. I also wold have loved if she had more conection to her past lives, in book 1 episode one she allready masterd the elaments at a young age, and personaly i LOVED that idea, how she wanted to be the avatar, and how her masters told her that being the avatar doesnt only mean mastering the 4 elements, (I CANNOT STRECH THIS ENOUGHHHH I LOVED THAT FACT AND IT MADE ME EXCITED TO SEE HER BETTER HER JEORNY WITH THE AVATAR STATE) but then the writers chose to ignore all her past lives. I would have focused more on her learning airbending and learning about the avatar state. It had a good drection honestly, the probending was not my cup of tea but i liked how they included it and how korra was not afraid to be a tomboy. Also i would have LOVED to see her personalaty slowly maturing a bit more and more, seeing her struggle with the spirit world a bit, and seing her awsome self in a battle without the help of team avatar. Book 2 was honestly my favorite season, we got to see her go in the avatar state and we got to see her master airbending and we got the origen how the avatar came to be, i would just fix it or rewrite it in this way, the whole season i enoyed SO MUCH so i would keep everything the same, the battle between Korra and Vatu kept me on the edge of my seat, but instead of her losing her past conncetions i would finally make her connect with her past lives in a deeper level, making her relive the battle with Vatu she had when Rava was in avatar Wan, so her avatar vision of wan to be while she is battling, with that entering the avatar state, i would keep the scene when she says "You cannot win" and i would add something simular like when Aang battled firelord ozai when he said "Fire lord ozai you and yur forfathers have devastatd the balance of this world and now you shall pay the ultamit price" so Koorra would say smth like "I am facing you again Vatu, but this time i am not alone" stating that she has the knowledge of all her past lives icluding avatar Wan. I would also keep the line when she says "I am inprisening you for another 1000 years" and with that she impresons vatu and before her uncle tries to pull Rava out of her she traps him in ice and takes his bending away, and closes the portal. if the season ended like that and if the writers allowed korras growth as the avatar the show would be perfect for me. We see Aang going from this 12 year old child that doesnt want to be the avatar to a responsable teenager that takes his avatar duty seriosly, it would have been nice to see Korra going from a stubborn teen to a responsable avatar that keeps the legacy of her past lives

Typical Korea fans Way to soft to accept that their show might just suck ( which it does )

That's a good point. Though at the same time, I feel as though Korra, raised around the traditional, more somber and spiritual version of the festival, would have been excited by the more fun-centered version. She wouldn't have immediately seen it as a bad thing, but she WOULD have immediately seen it as different from what she expected.

The show seems to make it clear that Korra was sheltered from most kind of traditionalism despite learning bending extremely quickly

@@sayerglasgow115 I keep saying this, but her lack of interest in traditions and spiritual manners matches closer towards an earth bender, not water. Earth is the least spiritual element of all of them. Her entire personality is more relatable to earth benders, not water so in a way, she is an outsider or a black sheep of the water tribe.

@@sayerglasgow115 Yeah! I definitely agree! I think she would be excited especially cause she isn't very spiritual herself, I just think she would be surprised and shocked when she realized that there are people who don't know about the spiritual parts of the festival at all cause it was so important to Katara when she was growing up.

@@thatoneinternetgirl7965 That's a good point and relates to Korra and Katara's bond!

I agree it did seem like a petty "oh well here you go then! "

Yeah we want a show about giant kites throwing lasers and robots and mecha suits... 😅 Or not.

you contradict yourself...

That’s true

Same reason anyone is upset with someone appropriating their culture, they assume they'll do it wrong or that it's not made with honest intentions or that because they're not them they shouldn't do it. You see it a lot in different forms from scoffing at the non Asian family taking their shoes off and putting slippers on to the people who get mad about non Africans wearing dreads. What people often forget is cultures evolve and that their race doesn't dictate culture it's a part of it yes but it isnt a pass card into the culture.

Nah, I mis-described what I meant there. Tenzin grew up around the acolytes. He'd be fine with them. But I reckon he could still feel a strange sense of ownership over the sky bison, an entitlement almost, insisting it needs to be *his* Air Nomad culture and not this one they've developed on their own. Given they developed independently, they'd have some stuff in common with Air Nomads, but it wouldn't be identical. It's like, who owns the kebab: Greeks or Turks? ~ Tim

@@HelloFutureMe Excellent point! You’re such a talented writer Tim, I can’t wait to read your book!

@@HelloFutureMe Hello again( if you've read me before) Question: What are you planning to do with the Red Lotus? If you've already read my comment, then you know my worries regarding not introducing their existence sooner.

I think there wouldn't be such an aversion to Korra if it wasn't a part of the ATLA world. Like that's the setting and it's a good setting, and it does some interesting things with the setting, but it's basically being treated like a sequel where people expect it to be as good as ATLA and have the same sense of humour and pacing and feel and it just isn't. It's not Avatar the Last Air Bender. LoK is fine in isolation. It's not for me, but it's fine. It just looks worse when compared to ATLA. To me it's the same as the Fable series. Where they made 3 but each one is radically different in game play, story telling style and quality, and over all tone. They are totally different games that just share a genre, but depending on what your favorite of the three is and what you were introduced first, the other two are worse experiences for having that weight of expectation.

This just sounds like someone with an uncritical eye, who cherry-picks in order to justify liking something while ignoring/unable to notice its glaring issues. This is a pattern I've noticed with Korra defenders. You're not very deep thinkers so of course you'd think Korra is good. Shallowness is attracted to shallowness. Lol

@@squeezyjibbz7407 "Justify liking something" who tf are you? Anyone can like any piece of media for any reason, and you have absolutely no place to fualt them for it, _none_ whatsoever. Couldn't give les of a shit if you were a paid critic or rando from bumfuck nowhere, you're opinion on a show does not and and cannot dictate whether someone should like it or not ya fukin snob.

@@squeezyjibbz7407 I mean the show is a kids show, it doesn’t need to be obviously deep, no show or any piece of work needs to be obviously deep to be good. It still has good themes hidden throughout and deeper ideas hidden in it. It had flaws like every single piece of fiction, but it’s still enjoyable to watch and adds to the world of avatar

@@squeezyjibbz7407 Part of maturity is letting people enjoy things. When I hated Korra (which I hated for years), I wasn’t thinking for myself. I ignored the complex things I liked about the show just to fit in with y’all. In other words, I was shallow when I blindly hated the show, clinging onto videos made by E;R or Lily Orchard, instead of using my critical thinking to freely enjoy the show and acknowledge both the good and the bad. And I know I’m not the only one who was like this because when I try to form a healthy dialogue with someone who dislikes the show, they don’t read anything I say and just tell me to watch a Korra hate video (and I’ve already seen them all).

I really think that idea! it gets a feeling of jealousy and resentment from those that perceive one has more privileges than others. A key part of Zafou could be that they don't want to be part of the Earth Kingdom because they can't express themselves. Art, dance, medicine they can practice without bloated bbureaucracy breathing down their necks about not providing enough metal for the many nonsensical projects from thousands of people they will never meet. Another point that could be made is secessionism. Is is allowed to leave the Earth Kingdom? Even during Kyoshi's day the Earth Kingdom wasn't a homogenized nation. It was run far more decentralized compared to the Fire Nation.

That would also make sense specifically because Suyin made Zaofu specifically a place to push metalbending to its limit, which is only a thing a wealthy isolationist region can do. In fact, it too is harmful given that it made the otherwise normal Baatar Jr. an outcast and drove him to Kuvira, setting up the fourth season. There already has been a subtle version of the expectation to be outstanding. Now that I think about it, Zaofu works better as an online community and not as an enlightened city, though that is my bias from whatever I’ve experienced. There are cities where artists and people looking to push the limit of skills thrive in, but Zaofu is very extreme.

YES PLEASE. I hated how the show glorified Zaofu, even though it was clearly a gated community full of rich people who considered themselves to be above the filthy peasants.

@@wasserruebenvergilbungsvirus I mean would you want to live in poverty, raided by bandits on the daily, and kidnapped by agents for thought crime?

@@iantaakalla8180 I feel Zaofu is the future and many people hate that. They hate to see progress and disregard to tradition not because of misplaced fear. That fear is that Zaofu works. They are thriving without an Earth Queen, the Great Uniter, or a King. They are seeing what could be and hate that they can have it. Greed. They fear that Zaofu is a success. Baatar Jr. felt that we was outcast he is in the minority. I think he suffered from not having a outlet to express himself and defaulted to being respected instead of loved. And that is where Kuvira comes in. Kuvira probably wanted to make the Earth Kingdom like Zaofu. She saw how much progress was being made. Community and environment that fostered chases your dreams. Problem is she projected her insecurities onto others rather than dealing with them. No in Zaofu had any delusion everyone would be okay with living like them, hence why they didn't expand. Suyin even stated she doesn't want to rule the Earth Kingdom because she say how much of nightmare managing all those people with varying cultures, beliefs, grievance that change with each passing day.

If anything, that should have been the Avatar, the wild card that can work freely, it would also make the whole conflict not just about spirits, but also about the humans stuck in the middle as a third side.

*Vaatu

Having non benders being able to bend just like that is weird and undermines the whole inequality thing between benders and non benders especially since he chose that to be the main issue in the 2 books , also he forgot that after the war a lot of northerners went to the south so them not having a normal amount of benders is not logical (but I guess if for him bending only comes from spirituality it follows some logic since they're supposed to be less spiritual...)

i think non-benders having the ability to learn bending would be an interesting idea. there's still a large divide; imagine having to put in years of dedicated work and training just to master the same level of skill as a child who's naturally a bender.

I think it’s still made clear that some people can bend and some can’t. The spirit portal just helped unlock a new group of people who could potentially learn it.

Asami always felt like she barely had a role since past the first season, like other then providing transportation and money and occasionally fighting a couple of goons she barely has a point in being in the team at this point. Wished they kept her original character of being an equalist spy, at least from there she could have redemption arc of sort and make her more unique to the group.

Well couldn't you say the same thing for the lion turtles

Yeah Bolin doesn’t really do anything. At least in the Original run even though he was a goofy movie star and had a terrible girlfriend at least he had more of a role than in here. I really loved the scene where he saves the president

And Bolin’s adventure have the neat payoff of ruining the plans of Varrick because Varrick made Bolin into a hero, of which the henchman of Varrick believe. This also helps develops him as a people person and PR person, tying into his arc with Kuvira in Season 4 about unwittingly helping along nationalistic conquest because he seems reasonable.

1. Yes 2. Yes but idk why he wrote the video this way, as it retcons the Omashu story too 3. Basically he's a background character, yeah. Other than the stuff with Varrick, which is more setup than anything else. 4. Korra can waterbend and airbend at the end of the season, the way I understood it. 5. (in Sokka's voice)Y'know...It was really unclear.

1. Definitely first Avatar, and yes I guess technically the first bender, but only of one element! He only searches the world for other elements when other humans have already gone on to live alongside the spirits/original benders. So there would be other waterbenders/firebenders/airbenders before him. 2. Yes, though I can't remember *why* I had to make that decision. I think it was because we needed to see waterbending discovered last. 3. Bolin barely has any function in the original season either. He can be the propaganda actor if you want, but yeah, he's under-utilised this season. 4. Korra can airbend and waterbend! I'm thinking maybe a timejump to allow her to acquire the other elements. 5. Yes! ~ Tim

@@yetz2291 I dont think retconning the Omashu story is any problem. That story just is a mythos WITHIN the universe, it probably never was the real truth.

Furthermore, given how capitalism works today, 21st century capitalism is pretty orderly violence. For the sake of profit, everything else is ignored; workers are essentially ground to nothing, retirement soon won’t exist, resources are rapaciously used until a land is barren and even sustainability is word for continued rapacious picking, and the stuff produces reinforces all the unhealthy biases that kill people.

"War is a chaos given order" - me in the shower 2022

@@bartoszkosmowski7149 You should write a book in the shower

A really good point and I am glad Tim didn't cut off her connection to the past avatars. It would be good if even for short conversations they pop up, although that might be a similar conversation to what he had Korra's mother give. your comment on order and peace is interesting, I hadn't thought of that

Yeah that's part of my problem with her past lives being cut off as since Korra didn't have much of a relationship with any of them it felt more for shock value to fans than something that'd really affect her.

That's a nice idea, and could work somewhat with the other changes. Maybe Unalaq found a way to seperate Raava and Vaatu, and steals one of them from Korra, seperating Order and Chaos once again. The rest of the story could play out more or less the same, just with a heavier focus on those two aspects, with Korra uniting them again after defeating Unalaq.

@@Fabiocean2000 another idea is that begginings plays the same way as the original with a few minor changes and there but korra at the end for the first time after so long uniting them once again anything could work better than what we got here in the original that is for sure

He could even steal rava and leave korra with vatu. It would make sense because the problem with Unalaq was that he was too orderly/controlling, not that he was too chaotic. Plus it would, together with the flashback, show that they really do need to be in balance.

@@orisandler9144 yeah true that is good idea

To be fair it’s not like the dark spirits where inherently evil, they were spirits driven mad by negative energy

Keep the designs of the dark spirits, but change their color pallette. That way they have a less "explicitly evil" vibe

@@jonasquinn7977 Oh yeah I forgot about that

@@TheLangenator Yeah I like that

Wasn’t a fan of Korra’s dark spirit designs. I mean the dark spirits we saw in Avatar were really creative and cool (Hai By’s monster form, Koh, Won Shi Ton’s monster form) Korra’s looks kinda cheap by comparison

I think an easy replacement for the lion turtles that would fit the lore would be a reminder of energybending. Remember what the Lion-Turtle said to Aang in the original show: "In the era before the Avatar, we bent not the elements, but the energy within ourselves". If the Wan story reminds the audience that energybending is a thing people know how to use, and it's characters that know energybending that take to bending the elements after learning from the bison and the badger-moles, then that would explain why you can't "just go search for a bison or a mole".

I don't think that's how it worked.. For me anyway.. I think the first generation of benders learned from nature.. I'd imagine almost everybody back then was a bender.. Then people discovered that bending can be passed down through genes and it spread that way being a more genetic thing.... I don't like the lion turtle thing because it removes the martial aspect of it.. The true meaning of bending.. Like zuko when he joined team avatar his bending went away... Indicating that its not just punching air.. Like wan did... I don't see how avatar wan couldnt have learned from the original benders and not lion turtles... Would not be lore breaking like that

@@implustration4828 I forgot that Zuko had to relearn to bend! This just reinforces how much bending is a spiritual thing and not just a physical ability

@@matthewmuir8884 I really like that! Could be that only those capable of "energy bending" will become benders and the element in which one bends is cultural/spiritual and that the avatar requires the two spirits to provide the order for multiple elements and chaos to have the energy to do it

I mean, it’s not like gaining the ability to bend would be like going and taking some martial arts class. You’d likely have to spend years trying to prove your worth to the animal, learning which one fits your personality best, and learning to bend. Plus only recently has travel to bending animals been some what easy