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It's always the art teams that shine because these lazy companies think thats all they need. They think were alll idiots and only care for petty things

And music

@@lierofjeld5051 music is art....

@@Mati-mk5wd true

they suck since draenor came out worst item design, zone design, everything millions of polygons in totally fake design, with shitty colors. looks like some zoomer interns art. as much as i hate pandas and pet battles etc, pandaria had beautiful memorable landscapes and architecture.

That's the entire problem though. None of that "daily busywork" is even necessary. It doesn't preclude you from participating in end-game content.

@@cstgraphpads2091 Go level a character to 120, and now skip all of that daily busywork and see if a guild will take you along in their raid, (hint hint, they won't). you will be sub 300 ilvl with a level 2 or 3 neck and no azerite or essences. You won't have flying, and you won't be able to get into raids or mythic dungeons. Now you have to grind out that crappy content to even start playing the end game content.

The sad true is inbetween people will stop playing that just how it is. No game has perfect player retention but blizzard can do way better.

@@bitbraindev Dark souls does have quests with big pay offs. Heck using the most popular one DS3 as an example you'd need to do one of 2 quests to get 3 out of the 4 possible endings to the game.

We fought the casual market tooth and nail. But now that the casual gamers have been conquered they to are the veterans. And they see what has been taken. Accessibility and engagement. Braindead mechanics. Streamlining. Stat overhauls. Game wasn't broken, but they fixed it for sure.

lmao xD

meanwhile in classic, using examples: Broken zombie arm(grey low level weapon) Sharp Dirk (low level common) Heavy Mace (low level green) Cool Kid's Sword of awesome(low level blue) Battered Steel Blade(mid level gray) Razor Blade (mid level common) Chad's Axe of Stamina (mid level green) Truesteel Hammer (mid level blue) Fate (mid level epic) Shattered Flail (high level grey) Sharp Steel Axe (high level white) Redwood Bow (high level green) Volutuar (high level blue) Shala'render (high level epic) Vain, The Hammer of Judgement (high level legendary) Grievance, The Greatstaff of The Priestlord (high level legendary)

10/10

Retail: Jimmy's Bracers of Potent Farts (Assforged). +180 Strength, +120 Stamina, +80 Gas, +100 Smell Classic: Jimmy's Bracers of Potent Farts. +20 Strength, +12 Agility. Equip: Chance on hit to let rip, dealing 180 nature damage and disorienting for 1 second.

If only. They don't change the name, even. It's just gets more numbery. I prefer classic system where you can learn the name of the item you want, it sounds cool and it matters. Maybe toned down a bit so you can have second and third options for every slot that are weaker but still viable.

wtf you talking bout vanilla

@@92Dast in vanilla, you can decide you want a piece and then go dark that piece. In bfa, that is way harder. M+ drops like 1-2 pieces per dungeon.

@@PhenomRom Yet the gearing is still effectively the same, RNG or not. Does this piece have more +good on it? Yes? Then I'll take it.

@@cstgraphpads2091 rng will all way be there that not the problem never was more then one layer or rng is i mean classic what drops it and what it drop chances live same as classic but it can get 2 to 4 different rolls of better which mean ya end up all way wanting more and never feel like ya won and at some point ya stop trying and stop playing me and 90% of us who used 2 play wow feel this

Its there way of trying to get you to play the game longer by having to get the stars to align to get the right gear you want. Its stupid and fucked up. Shadowlands better fix this or I'm done. The expansion already looks underwhelming and recycled... So I dont have high hopes. Espcially since the story used to keep me playing if the game wasnt so good. But now it's trash, doesnt make sense, and is targeted for people with low IQs

+300 to Fart Crit

I approve of this

i actually try to find that item on wowhead =(

My wife has these bracers. I've tried everything to get her to equip something else, to no avail. Please send help.

@@ricardolionheart4920 Embrace your lady's farts! It means she cares about you, because she doesn't do it around anyone else.

Happening

I see.

yeah it's hard to watch his videos he needs to hire some e-girl

I love that he's like that, can't stand the RU-vidrs that are loud and obnoxious

@@weatherman2045 same

BRE Drops. Madseason: OK

i actually fucking hate dailys. im fine with world quests and assaults. but having to do the same shit for 2 months straight everyday non stop on 3 different toons is actual hell. such a waste of time and provides no context or entertainment to the game. fuck dailys

@Not My real name um.. theres no option really..? dailies = coalacent visions= vape upgrade = stat upgrade + corruption upgrade and also exalted rep which gives a rune, and dailis also unlock essences and mounts and transmog and achieves. o boy.

@Not My real name dumbass

Its 7 dailies that barely take any time to do...

Word

What happend to ur voice?

@@tigerisak9037 ChadSeason Happened

@@mt.averest9750 oh he is mad like a chad like wadd and dat is facts

wow retail is a job with no rewards

"So if there's no want for them, and you claim there's no need for them, may I ask why they exist?" Easily my favorite wow youtube channel/creator.

Yeah, kinda like dc did with jason todd

Bro I nut from the thought of killing sylvannas. Fucking king anduin had so many chance but noo we have to put her in prison

I hope she doesnt die and becomes a recurring villian for while before we take the bitch out. I see some potentially good content

@@highpower1191 bruh she's gonna be the main villain for 2 expansions now. She had a fuck ton of plot armor. Anduin had atleast a million tjens to kill her

stwong woman bad :(

cut of death

@@Joekary5 Azshara Razorcoral, Azshara font of Power. Physic shredder.

Cut of Death, mechagon If Then rings & fire mage bracers, fist weapon from underrot, staff from temple, all the corrupted weapons in ny'alotha, but let's not let those get in the way of his point about how interesting int and str on the same piece of gear are in classic.

@@mdokane Yeah he really missed the mark on that one. Gettiku is BiS for any class that can use 2Handers, the cloth braces are super BiS for fire mages, the if-thens are BiS for different classes depending on which combination, etc. Hell this is closest to Vanilla item design than it ever was in an expansion, if I'm not mistaken.

@@powerovercorrupt I can see what you're saying about end game gear, in the last tier of the expansion, but even so the gear treadmill has increased its' incline by1000% or more since Pandaria or Warlords. In those expansions there was a hard "BIS" for almost every gear slot (usually tier pieces) and while that rotated with each new raid tier you at least knew when you had reached peak gearing. The point Mads is trying to make is that while there is a mind-numbing number of potential activities available to pursue "advancement", almost all the gear available is 1000 versions of the same thing. Sure there are a few exceptions out there if you really know where to look and want to put in the effort to focus on that content, but layering RNG on top of RNG to try to get an upgrade to already pretty good gear means that almost nothing is ever going to give a sense of satisfaction or accomplishment. No gear stands out because almost all gear is the same-smelling rose but by a plethora of names. At the end of the day though, gearing is only one of the problems facing the game going forward. Too much of BfA felt like the busywork of making valentines holders for your desk in elementary school (or most other kids holiday craft projects - hand-tracing turkeys, egg carton Christmas trees, etc.). Sure it keeps you busy enough to prevent total boredom, but "not being bored" is not the same thing as actually having fun. Minesweeper or Solitaire can keep you "not bored" but after a while the repetition is mind-numbing, and that's what BfA feels like to me at this point. Before 8.3 the variety of playing my 3 different main classes (Paladin, Mage & DK) kept me going, but the Cloak system added so many more "mandatory" grinds that I just couldn't force myself to do it all multiplied by a factor of three.

My last proper Retail raid was in Cata, I have played up to Legion, but then with raid finder Have played since US Beta Now I play Classic, doubt I'll ever play retail again, for the reasons in this video, its just the same shit over and over

@@dubious6718 Have played since late Wrath, and Legion was the most fun raiding experince i had. Antorus was insanely fun

agreed i have bouts of play time sometimes it revolves around a raid team which is fine but mostly like now im just on to finish some random goal i set myself (unlocking allied races at the moment) and then i stare at the game for a while turn it off and spend the next month playing other more fun games. Im 100% sure they have gotten a decent sum of money out of me because i was so bored i became to lazy to turn off the sub

Started playing in late vanilla. Raided pretty hardcore in BC, but enjoyed Wrath the most. Even WoD was more enjoyable than Legion&BFA (Mainly because the classes felt more like the classes I always played)

kluasVT Legion is the 2nd best expansion they’ve ever done imo right after Wrath. MoP was really good too even though people hated on it cause of pandas lol

coming across random players needing help is what i missed most.

@@zack4209 that was an experience I grew very fond of in classic. I would be getting fucked up and people would come and help me, it was amazing. Wed end up having the same quest and them work together. It was a great experience.

@@ChaiKarl sadly it’s a mechanic that online games have gotten rid of. Everyone’s a walking army now and it’s sad

@@zack4209 for real dude. I am disappointed by every game I play now because it lacks the teamwork and simplicity of shared effort for one goal.

This is what got me hooked , I could play bgs like the doodoo player I am but eventually it made the PvP gear obtainable for me

Honor wasn't a currency for pvp in WoD, it was the honorable medallions. I agree tho, the pvp from MoP was easily the best with the honor and conquest as currency to actually buy gear and pvp resil/power on pieces of gear. Right now i feel like you have to do pve to do pvp properly or else you'll have no health no procs and no damage

@@superjive8282 I feel Cata did this PvP system better, mostly due to having Tol Barad.

yeah it was so amazing.. i hope these times will return someday. fuck the busywork, atleast for pvp man.. no pvp guy in their right mind would ever like grind for an edge because the fun part is in getting that damn title so you can .. uhm.. brag about it on your date or sth

Huh. Well, seems like this turned out well for you.

they added account wide essences

@@zillux6461 They added a means to force everyone to grind for an already unlocked rank 3 essence, they deliberately went out of their way to add another grind to the game to herd people back when they could of just flicked a twitch and enable proper account-wide essences. Like it is better then nothing, but say if you haven't unlocked essences that healers or tanks can only gain then you have to do the grind of a healer or tank to gain them.

@@genericcomment3950 that's something I've thought also for a while now. takes me roughly an hour to do uldum/vale dailies + xpan dailies. would be fun if I could just choose to do whatever I want without this constant feeling of missing out.

I'm a pvp guy, and im the saddest person ever coming back to this game and see how different and garbage it is now... imagine this, i just wanted to play arena with my friends, and instead, i got that crap that madseasonshow mentioned, and not only that, if i wanted to do arenas, or any other PVP I need to go to dungeon... I was like, Excuse me? IF i wanna go pvp i must gear from pve? Where is the logic in that? PVE and PVP is different for a reason, I dont want to do dungeons because its boring for me, why i have to do that if i wanted to play arenas and pvp. In the back days, if i was a pvp guy, i play pvp. And thats it folks. Not to mention how fcked up the situation with this corruption things in the pvp.... I think i will unsub from wow, at this moment PVP is unplayable

They killed pvp starting in MoP and just ground it into the dirt since... I used to pvp a lot but I haven't touched it in years because you have to do so much for any reward...

to be honest, it was always bland. I mean, wow classic had some quirkier ones, but they were mostly ignored. Others had crappy stats, and it's easy tot ell which one is the most useful. besides, BFA has lots of quirky items as well, and lots of decisions with it - it's only that it's not always something good - see corruptions.

@@TheRayny Why make more raids, when they can just make random/better stats on same item

@@dubious6718 because that's kinda the engine of the game? it's number crunch at its core. I mean, i understand if you dislike it, but that't really it. The core loop of the game is new challenges -> more powerful items, and there's much you can do with special effect on gear. Besides, when we talk about memorable gear we talk only about a couple of things really - have you ever seen a good pair of bracers, boots or what else that wasn't just stat stacking, even on vanilla? and that weren't absolute trash as well. Oh wai,t i have some in mind now: legion legendaries and corrupted items. And while the second got different reactions about it, the first one was good, but also the first one if done again would end up being almost the carbon copy of the first generation with few additions.

I noticed the moment I tried a legion server and noticed my paladin only had haste mastery and crit (if i remember propperly) as possible stats, it felt...horrible, i went to check a tanking guide and it said haste...haste...for tank. So i tried demon hunter and altough it was fun, i eventually went back to private since no matter what i got it always felt so so weak, indifferent.

@@huultah you mean you preferredolder different stats? That's a crude but effective look at stats - every class and spec has some to prioritarize ( save exceptions ) but they benefit from all of them for their role - crit chance increases parry for example, mastery for warriors increases block in protection. That looks plain, but it's a huge step up from older stat versions - i mean, look at classic, as healer you have ONE stat to worry about which is healing power, and as a dps you have only hit chance/rating to worry outside the other stat to max out, save some crit shenanigans that can be managed out only by simming. Tank stats like dodge, parry and block are ties to mastery and crit basically, they only differenc eis that the sape piece of gear can be useful to dps as well. Plus, there is versatility. That said yeah, i agree they aren't amazing. HAste specifically does too much.

And you don't even get money for it, you're paying Blizzard instead..... I've been working in corporate for 12 years, and been playing WoW since Classic. WoW used to be the game I came back to after a day's work, for relaxing and exploring and meeting random people to talk to or help on Quests. But now I'm literally afraid to Login because your entire map is assaulted by Markers and things to do. It feels worse and even more of a grind than an actual job (and I work in basically SW tech-support), it's never-ending. I kid you not, I've started playing World of Warships instead, and even that thing doesn't feel as bad, even though it's the gaming equivalent of a pyramid scheme made by some Russians...

@Maintenance Renegade Yeah, that's another thing too. You mentioned the Fishing Pole, and I just remembered doing the Kalu'ak quests to obtain it back then. The Kalu'ak themselves were fun and even doing the dailies meant you were encouraged to ride between their settlements on the Turtles. And at the end, the Fishing Pole was cool and let you breathe underwater, but it wasn't like it was absolutely needed to play the game... It was just something fun. Unlike now where you have to do dailies in Nazj'atar or Mechagon just to unlock Flying. It's the only reason I still force myself to play, and even then, when I think why I'm doing it, it's to have less travel time between even more dailies. What the hell, man :( .....

@Maintenance Renegade Honestly, Once Cata hit outside of the confusing story line (at least for me) it felt like they were starting to slip with the game kinda like having two hands hanging from a ledge. Then mist came and as much as I loved it thematically from the small bits of end game content of it I saw it seemed like they were subtly slipping in what made WoD so horrifying for a lot of players (mainly timeless isles and the token system is what I'm thinking of). WoD was the nail home that made the 1st hand slip off. Thankful Legion was good enough that the other held on as hard as it could. but with how much BfA feels like it was still in it's beta phase with all it's RNG and tweaking even now that hand is starting to slip. We can only hope Shadowlands will give it a better grip.

I loved Wotlk so much.. - Great economy, mining made my gold, and farming eternal fire's. - Finally getting that Deathbringers Will, that always got ninjalooted was an awesome feeling, also Bryntroll 2h Axe. - I knew I couldn't get into any raids on my new level 80 without going through Dungeons to farm BiS pre-raiding gear, then go for a tier 7 raid, farm it > Then tier 9 etc. - Loved the token-upgrade. First I needed to get the T7 gloves, then upgrade those by adding a token from a higher difficulty to make the better version. - Rare-mob grinding that resulted in mounts wad awesome. - Wintergrasp, genious ❤

@@Alsund dude that is so nostalgic..It's sad that back then we had "less" daily/weekly things to keep track of, but we logged in and played all day long nonetheless. I could spend a whole night just mining titanium in wintergrasp, fighting against the bots flying under the map haha. I also miss the valor thingies u got from dungeons and raids that you could use to buy gear with. People who didn't play wow back in the day really missed out

Lefortunez private servers with WotLK now are very good.

I took 3 days off work then.

Classic wow content gets cleared in 43 minutes lol. It is more of a joke than live outside of leveling.

@@elitebooger8208 That's not the point?

@@elitebooger8208 That's because the strategies being used in Classic have been perfected over 15 years by the people playing on Private Servers, not because the content is easy. In Classic pushing buttons mattered. Levelling mattered (and took time and skill). Positioning and pulling mattered. Gear mattered and was unique. Doing things often required other people, and finding (and befriending) those other people made the Massively Multiplayer part actually true (and made it matter). If it's not your cup of tea that's fine, we aren't going to make you play it. On the other hand, simply dismissing Classic entirely just because a tiny subset of players (who have been essentially playing the same content non-stop for 15 years) have perfected the art of clearing Classic's Raids is not a fair examination of anything except your own bias.

@@elitebooger8208 Yet, joining a pug on your alt to do MC and being stuck in MC for 3-4 hours wiping on Domo or Rag happens too. Imagine wiping in LFR lol. g O b aC K t O r E tA i L

@@mattdayne2585 dude I mythic raid and am 2k+. I would not struggle with mc because its a joke.

i agree. madseason is the shiz

Its ok bro, do something better with your time.

Back when it was only Blizzard and not ActiBlizzard

It was probably because you were 15 years old. Games will never be as magic and amazing as they were when we were teenagers/children

@@santiagolago9989 nah ive been playing wotlk and BC private servers for almost a decade now, the game never gets old. the system was simple, addictive, rewarding and challenging. it is not nostalgia.

I was 12 and Diablo had just come out. I thought it was the coolest game. Then I played Starcraft & Vanilla ❤️ Best gaming memories😩

Yeah, back it used to be about making games fun for the player, now it's all /time played, and making 90% of content be daily chores. No new dungeon content and literally unless you play one or two of 100 dead alliance servers not named Stormrage you can't raid as alliance. People are forming 25000 population hyperclusters just to have people to play, while the non cross guild makes raiding dead on 95% of servers where even my top 5 alliance pop server now only has a single mythic raiding guild that has all 20/20 raiders and benched me despite a 90% parse because even though i was geared.. i wasn't unemployed as the other 10 coronavirus applicants were who could have a 90% raid attendance raid. Not to say it could see the point but it feels terrible when they refuse to put on mythic flex raiding caring about "INTEGRITY OF BALANCE" when they literally DESPAWNED THE FINAL BOSS of last world first race and killed bosses for the #2 guild so it wouldn't be 8/12 M Method after their 4th world first vs 12/12M Limit getting thirsty and pushing. Who cares about the "INTEGRITY OF THE GAME" if the game design is purposely dead to 50% of the population with no population fix, or cross server grouping for alliance. World first races sacrifice game design with raiders who LITERALLY, LITERALLY use unemployment benefits to play are the catered target content. Don't have 25-30 hours a week to raid non stop? Where does 90% of new content development go. not on content the 90% plays. I get that ion was a raid lead, but the amount of focus that raids that barely anyone can actually physically play at mythic while m+ is neglected with no new dungeons is droll. I wish they'd have more dungeons or introduce new dungeons with Raid patches. Forget 12/12 raid bosses, 0 dungeons. I want 1-2 new dungeons a patch with new loot. Maybe a weekly 5 man challenge dungeon to double the loot in your weekly cache.

Well, making them has gotten me through some tough times as well. It's my pleasure man! Glad they have helped you out that way.

I feel the same

thx

@@madseasonshow Woah! You used a "!" (Joking)

yess

Calling BfA/retail leveling a tutorial is very generous of you considering how it doesn't teach you anything beyond movement and camera controls.

I actually switched to Argent Dawn because I felt lonely on my server, even with a guild. I realized that RP and community is the real meta and even though I raid Heroic and do +10-15 mythic keystones, at the end of the day its all because I can chill with strangers in the Inn.

@@PregnantOrc LOL it's sad how accurate that is.

I disagree making all dungeons scale with level makes itemization so much more fun than classic. I think classic leveling is fun in it's own way but so is live wows dungeon spam. Is addictive an awesome. Every item is now good within a certain level range and that's fucking great.

Or find something to replace them with, honestly. I agree they have been largely useless for several expansions now, but mostly because the gear you can make is obsolete before you can even make it. So much gear drops, and so frequently, with World Quest rewards scaling based on your ilevel, that the only possible use is for enchanting materials.

This.

The art and music people always do a great job.

yep. the only good things about WoW.. even WoD has great music. i still listen tot he music of wow.

ye, imo lvling is pretty good in bfa, I personally love drustvar

@@CosmicCleric and that's may be because Samwise Didier is a senior art director at Blizzard Entertainment. Sadly he's the only one left of the good old "core" Blizzard staff. Let's think about the Shadowlands cinematic: the whole "Sylvanas easily defeats the Lich King" is bullshit, but the cinematics is done well. Art and music are the only good thing left in Blizzard games now

@@wisniamw Exactly. The leveling experience is great, it just goes to crap once you hit max level

Summed it up for me. They tried a make it friendly to the new or returning player, but to this long time returning player, i was turned off. Classic is fun, i log on and there's stuff i can do, because i want to do them. Not because i need to do a arbitrary task for a certain reward. BfA just throws a bunch of dailies at you hoping one would stick.

@@Idontlikeanyoneanywhere Amen bro.

And the talent system too. Personally I think the current talent system where you have to choose between abilities is really good, but not as a replacement for the talent system! They should've kept the original talent system, and added this ability choice ON TOP. Complexity is good for an RPG. It's half of what makes the game. There has to be a lot of shit you can get lost in. Sure it will always caused problems that require constant hotfixing, but so does the current status quo too. Except it's much more boring and sterile.

I Miss Multistrike

Except the stats have barely changed lol.

@@zolikoff The current status quo doesn't require a bunch of hotfixing though. Adding pointless complexity just drives away people. Even then, can you honestly say "Oh look, I got another point for 1% crit" is "complexity"? It isn't "complexity", it's minutae.

zolikoff Idk the talent system from the old days wasn’t good either it’s all cookie cutter too depending on what you’re doing. Always gonna be a build that’s better than others still no freedom of choice I’d say the talents every 15 levels still aren’t as restricted. It does feel better getting something every level though that’s what makes them feel better to people you feel like you’re getting stronger even though the impact isn’t that big.

On Equip Effect: "Cause a brown wraith to appear periodically and cause people around you and ./fear"

That and a madseasonshow npc of somekind. He speaks in monotone.

@PepoHappy MMOs probably aren't for you friend

@PepoHappy Thats... kinda what mmos do. You grind dungeons and raids for gear. Try a different genre and see if you like it better.

i mean i get that they want people to see the zones in their first playthrough but i feel like completing the questline should be enough fuck the rep grinds and shit

@@nevr9281 Or just make the rep grind easier for example just add tabards like in wrath or cata where if you would wear one faction tabard in dungeon you would get rep for that faction.

@@mates9816 I like the current large grind for reps, but I think the rewards should be cosmetic things like mounts and stuff so it still feels like something worth doing, but not necessary. Pathfinder and Allied races or anything effecting gameplay should require only Honored or maybe Revered.

When I was thinking of pre-ordering Warlords of Draenor I did so on the assumption that flying was going to be added after a short 2-3 month wait and though I didn't like It I decided that it was ok. Then later turned into even later which turned into "We won't be adding it because we never designed it for flying" ONLY to add it eventually because subs tanked. Even then when we got it it came with a load of bullshit like finding "treasures" and was such a pain I didn't get it until after I'd gotten legion pathfinder.

@@nevr9281 After you have quested through a zone, you have seen it enough, pathfinder should just be the questlines in each zone and honored with each rep, and explorer, nothing else.

Wouldn't be enough to save the game but sure, drive her story to at least make sense... The one we're currently getting is plagued by completely braindead storytelling unfortunately

Warcraft storytelling is brainded since warcraft 1, so it's not gonna change anything.

Moonis sylvannas always sucked as a character

@@jmanjman2685 doesn't mean she needs to keep on suckin after 20 years (or does she ;D)

Also make an Alliance character a villian for a change. Let Tyrande become corrupt and become a raid boss

I hate engagement mechanics - it's why I quit all modern mmos

then i rather play in FF14 where the game is actually fun and lets you do other stuff then do shitty dailys, get power and end gear

@Cthulhu I too despise the current CORPORATE strategies. It doesn't belong in a game and it never will. Today's "systems" are designed to be something you would see/expect from a casino. If I want to gamble, anything, I'd go to a fucking casino, not buy a fucking game.

I think they use “engagement” as a substitute for fun, because it’s objective, measurable, quantifiable, and trackable. But it’s really not a good substitute for fun. Which leads to all this infinite treadmill shit. Perfect example: I bought and played DOOM Eternal last week, and it took me only about

@@ndr2q You said it in English better than me. There you go, people. When you go corporate, you go broke. Because the ONLY fucking thing they care is that fucking word, "engagement". Pretty fucking sick of hearing that from the same guy that runs the same game for over 8 years (Ion). Not trashing the guy and blaming it all on him, but someone's gotta say it...

But for this to happen, they should get rid of the ilvl system, too much ppl rely on it. They don't look at your skills, they look at your ilvl and rio...

@@davidfarago1378 They would do that anyway... Before item level we just looked at spell power or hp. Any decent player is looking at logs or in the case of mythic+ runs. Stupid people just look at ilvl but as a fire mage in 8.2. I was 432 ilvl and doing 48k in eternal palace. Item level means nothing and good players don't just go off it or io. They look at individual runs or logs. If you under-geared good guilds look at your damage taken and parses for ilvl instead of just ilvl. If they're a semi decent guild anyway. Feeding people gear is easy once you've done mythic for x months. Anyone who is 50% done with mythic realizes this.

same here though i do raiding and mythic dungeons. mostly now im helping my guildies get better

moonknight79 Yeah, but honestly that’s ok unless you’re in the top 1% of the player base you don’t even need to mindlessly grind. The game isn’t in a good state but I think too many take it to seriously.

How can you be a solo player in an mmorpg? Like, what do you do? How do you progress your character? Genuine question, because I can't wrap my head around it.

@@nagybotond713 You can do dailies, battlegrounds, and other stuff. Also playing alts helps.

@@elitebooger8208 do dailes and then level alts so you can do more dailies on them too, eek

YES PLEASE I MISS MOP

Wrong. They were must have for professions.You also had to farm rep to buy certian trinkets like thunder isle patch ones.

Yeah, in MoP I actually enjoyed doing the dailies for the mounts. I mean it was something to look forward to. My brain goes into foggy mode with BFA dailies. Reminds of going to Church when I was a kid and singing the same songs every week. I knew all the words but my mind was 1000 miles away.

I feel like MoP was unappreciated in its time, but retrospectively now with BFA on our plate, MoP looking back was actually an excellent xpac, at least imo.

so that.

Try Sims. Don't bring this to WoW.

Ha! In your wildest dreams! Theyre long gone. Only self serving idiots that only care to milk the cow til it's dead

No thanks, I'd rather do dailies than sit in IF wondering what do in the game after raid night..

Millions comeback every launch

@@iBlueFoxxy True - and if they keep coming, then why changing things?

iBlueFoxxy Tons of people are still on retail despite what classic players say I’d say they’re split pretty even honestly I’m on both from time to time. Retail more cause Classic is pretty boring to me. With the 100%xp boost retail might even have more players on it right now tons of people everywhere and like 1-3 min dungeon ques even as a dps leveling at least for me.

@@miroslavzima8856 they come back because of changes and new stuff lol...

@@iBlueFoxxy yeah, it's still enough to make money to justify it. although the retention after launch is awful compared to past expansions

Some zones in tbc require flying.

I just can't play my casters anymore on retail after coming back from classic because they all feel way too fast and every spell feels the same...

@@fgqgqlfqsfsffeff I feel the same for my rogue too lol

@@fgqgqlfqsfsffeff Magic Bolt - Do 50 magic damage 1.5 sec cast Magic spell number 2 - Do 52 magic damage CD 5 seconds 1.5 sec cast Magic spell 3 - Do 5000 magic damage Instant cast requires you to cast 5 shitty spells before this This but with all classes

yeah, it's so tainted now that i don't know if it can be saved

@@EB-bl6cc It could be, if the right people were brought back in and cared enough to extend Classic with new content in the old style. But Activision/Blizzard doesn't think that's the way forward so it's (sadly) not going to happen. That said, Classic is the perfect opportunity to split the player base in a healthy way. Those who like the "Retail" treadmill could keep it, while the fans of Classic could get new content, even if it was at a slower pace. Then, since Blizzard can doubtless track the numbers of "who plays which version of the game, and for how long" they could devote development resources to the version that is actually bringing in the cash. THAT said, I don't think they want to lose the extra revenue from things like store mounts/pets, and especially Token sales. All the features that have allowed them to make more money on fewer people are the same features that have caused there to be fewer people to make money on in the first place.

I hope we get Uldum and Kara in Classic, like they was supposed to be

Everyone complained about them, including me, but man, compared to what we have to deal with today it seems like a perfect system (which it wasn't). But the dude made a good point - i still remember what i was wearing on my warrior in Vanilla and more less remember where all that drops. Because these things were rare and unique.

holy hell you know your game is lost when "legendaries" are for every class and everyone can get them. Very legendary. VERY. LEGENDARY.

@@ABurntMuffin For every class, for almost every slot. In legion you could be almost full legendary xD Bring back normal items, not this random generated crap AND BRING BACK NORMAL STATS, LIKE TONS OF IT

The main problem that I had with the legendary system in legion was mostly the completely RNG way of getting them, you basically had to just do M+ and Raids all the day all the time and hope you roll the dice enough to get it. I spent the first 2 months of Legion with no legendary, only to get my BiS legendary (Unholy DK bracers) and instantly quit the game. It just didn't make me feel accomplished that I had obtained that item and I knew I wasn't having fun. I felt more relief rather than excitement that I had it drop. It also didn't help that Unholy DK was literally the worst DPS class during Nightmare. There is something to say about how it devalued the idea of a "legendary", rarity wise. However, epics have been that way since forever now and really nobody gives a shit anymore. Legendaries have really stopped being special since the the MoP cloak, so I didn't have a problem with legion legendaries in that way.

They fucked up that too...

They make it out to be nostalgic in regards to stats, as well as not requiring you to expac jump from 1-60. We’ll see. They mentioned class spells that have different effects depending on your character build. Pretty interesting but time will tell.

wotlk good cata bad mop good wod bad legion good bfa bad shadowlands good