Fixturing Aerospace Parts With Double Sided Tape - Vlog #54 

Technology is awesome, but Old School is Cool! Don't ever forget it kids, that old grumpy guy in the shop has probably forgotten more than you'll ever know.. respect him and learn. Thanks for what you do Titan; Boom!

LOL I am literally on my way to go buy some double tape right now for a project on my CNC router what a coincidence this is the first video that pops up

Yup. Done a lot of small, thin parts with simple Scotch double sided tape. On larger stuff (1" x1"+) I use painters tape and superglue, but it too, isn't very happy about coolant. Something critical, I'll use air to clear chips instead.

Been doin this for years.. works like a charm...

I've been using that double sided carpet tape a lot lately. Very handy!

hi from Russia. i had to machine difficult part from both sides without signs of fixture or some holes or others visible things. i took stock bigger than part, machine it from up side as it was possible. larger stock gives me a wall around part. than i fill it with a low temperature solder. wait antil it became cold and than machine it from another side. cutting cold solder in process. than i dropped part with solder and walls of stock around them into the boiling water. solder became liquid and i got my part. sorry for my english =)

This is actually super common in the machining of high end plastics (Vespel, PEEK, etc) We use a heavy duty carpet tape for all our first OP work, you can repeatedly hit it with a mallet and it won't come off. Have to use Propanol to dissolve the glue. As with tools though no two tapes are the same and you need to find the correct one that works for the application.

I think it's a good solution. I often produce some test parts for my workshop and have experience with mounting with double-sided tape. You should be flexible and free-thinking. Thanks Titans!

I’m infatuated with your channel! I’ve let you teach me quite a bit the past week. My blue print reading knowledge Ive forgotten for a decade has all come back and then some. Learning datums and what not. I’m 35 and feel like I’ve thrown my youth work years away. I wish I could move to you and sweep your floors so I can watch and learn.

Awe, yes. Machining tape. Good stuff.

Hey, been toying with the idea of machining breakaway tabs on a particular part we make frequently. You should do a quick vlog with tips and tricks! Keep up the good work

That is a freakin awesome tip. Even though I'm not a machinist, it sure goes to prove that sometimes the hardest problem has the simplest answer and to keep your head out of the box. Just wanted to say Hello and hope you have a good weekend. P.S Don't do anything I wouldn't do. And if you do, name it after me. Lol Have a good one Titan.

I've used the same method in the past to grind stainless steels on a surface grinder

titan this double sided trick i learned from you made me a name in my company division. all said its impossible to machining deldrin (sustarin POM) like 2 mm /1mm thick i said no problem i got a solution THX MAN :D now i machining thin steel parts, plastic parts, even rubber ^^

Ramping into and out of a work piece with a ball end mill. The instructors I know, don't know how to do it. Show us please. You're doing a super job.

Been using double-sided crepe paper tape for about 5 years since I built my CNC router works awesome, specially when cutting thin plastic

Im making some carbon filled plastic pieces right now. I only use nitto tape p-02 double sided tape because it’s strong and not a nightmare to peel off and doesn’t leave glue behind. Then once my parts are machines from the first side I will flip them over and press fit them into pins I machined on aluminum for an exact location and no warping of my part. If you know a more precise way of making a plastic part I will bow down to you. I don’t like keeping my machining secrets to myself. Titan inspired me to teach what I know

i used this in 1994. Works awesome. For small parts ok but not for big parts. Boom!!!!

I've used double sided tape for fixturing thin and light pieces that can't have a clamp on their surface since I was learning manual machining just out of high school. Over 30 years ago.

looking forward to seeing your vacuum fixtures

I'm very dissapointed, I count only 3 boom...2 tape is well known from about years, but well done ! But better than this is to use to 2 regular tapes glue it together (on the back side) with strong adhesive ! with this trick you can avoid the mess when unmount the part from the tape (mean adhesive clean).Is not my discovery but is very usefull by plastic.

I respect old school methods. Modern technology comes from creative old school beginings.

it's funny, i to an engineer to do exactly this on a piece is teflon he was trying to cut awhile back. he didn't and had a hell of a time using that old machine to cut a few notches in the board. i do this quick and dirty all the time on my little router. it works as good as the clamps. would have never though it would hold up anything harder than that.

I used it yesterday to make some 3 thou spacers worked great !!!!!

I was able to save some large flat aluminum parts that very same way. It was a scrap part with "no way to rerun it" and I whipped out my tape and got it done right there. Boom.

Very infomative.

Videos for setting up 4th and 5th axis on the HAAS.

Great videos these recent videos have been really good. Very informative, can you do a video on tricks how to index parts for us guys who don't have 4th or 5th axis capabilities ie like a cylinder with a slot and a perpindiular hole that runs through the hole like a retaining pin. I was able to do this by machining a reverse image of the Oval slot. Put that there oval pin into the slot then rest it against the back jaw to get the part properly indexed to drill the through hole. Or perhaps. Cutting 4 slots into a tube 90degrese apart buy making a squeezes clamp with square ends larger than the diameter of the tube. With a long bolt to clamp to gether square on a flat surface drop it into a kurt to hold the part cut slot then index then re run the program to make the adjacent slots

Have you ever tried the super glue method where you put masking tape on the part and on a machined flat plate with super glue between them

I prefere to use painters paper tape with superglue on anything that see higher cutting forces - it requires more set-up time but holds great - powdercoaters tape works well too (especially if you are using flood cooling) I use double sided tape on larger plastic sheets when machining larger parts and I just need to hold semiproduct down to the table - few strips of that tape and I can make a lot of parts in no time sheet after sheet

We use double sided tape to machine carbon fiber plates on a CNC router. It works surprisingly well.

You are a hero

my old school trick that i learn 20++ year ago was to use hot gun glue or cyanoacrylate(CA) glue, for use on steel parts not plastic. May be you can show how its done.. your this video sure bring back alot of memories of using double sided tape.

What brand of double end tape? Also Titan, I wonder if the tape's thickness affects to the positioning of the part. I want to make this technique because many times I have to cut aluminum contoured parts at 1/2 inch maximum thick. I allways struggle with part clamping when this happens to me.

Could you please add a video to Show how much force you apply to clamp the parts and how many milimeters should stay in the vise without distorting so that the part is still within the drawing (tight) tolerances after unclamping the part?

I’ve done this. Works great!

Hey Titan, would you be able to make a video on how to machine miteebite clamps? For instance machining the radius's you used on the lion head fixture.

Been there, done that!

Hey Titan! Can you put together an instructional video on teaching how to properly use double sided tape to machine thin wall plastic parts. This is a technique I haven't used before. Thank you.

I was at a prototype shop they made visual models of laptops stuff like this. We used double sided tape and mist oil to cut weird shapes and contours

Awesome! Yea, that is a good way.

Boom! Very cool!!!

Same technic we use in our company.

# 1 , double FACED TAPE, #2 always clean all parts and mounting surfaces with acetone to remove oil and get a good hold .

Well known concept for engraving. People using tapes since first cnc router build:)

On small plastic parts, I've put them in a bowl of water in microwave, seems to help

Great idea Titan. Is the thickness of the tape uniform to a high degree of accuracy? Ciao, Marco.

Hi Titan, looking this video I did some connections to our parts where we use a lot of double side foil to pop provide a bonding surface for the vacuum table. We have a tons of plastic parts in our machines, not very precise but many and cost sensitive. For a good reason they are not injection molded. At the moment we are producing them on cnc routers. The main reason is the ability to work with large sheets and to reduce the setup time. Do you ever compare production cost on real cnc machine versus cnc router, do you think it's possible to achieve a competitive price on a metalworking cnc?

I machine tons of wood parts on my cnc router, I use double sided tape all the time.

i have a question how did you account for the play in The double sided tape i realize its thin but there wouldn’t be give to it and how did you account for it

Super glue works for thin metal parts. A heat gun will release the part. I think they have a commercial release agent for Super glue these days.

I double side tape a lot of work. I know it can move without releasing the part, so I try for more rigid fixtures when called.

Titan, what are your thoughts on painters tape with super glue trick for fixture?

Do you have a video on speed and feed?

Id like to know what kind of tape because i've tried carpet tape and it didnt work.

Awsome stuff, rocket science isnt always rocket science. :-)

What brand do you prefer titan?

what about the flatness for that thing? is it good?

How you like that celos control?

Another example of outside the box thinking that they sadly don't teach us in school

I'm Fresher as cnc operator can I get guidance , materials from u sir

"Double SIDE tape" "double sticky tape" "two side sticky tape" "double sided tape" the list goes on, and on. But no, you gotta say "double end tape." Think about that for a moment. ALL tape is double ended. In fact, most things are of two ends. You have double end rope, you have double end chain, you have double end sofas, you have double end cars, trucks, you have double end houses, you have double end wrenches, on and on and on and on. This is one end of my post. More importantly, if you try this "tape" trick, make sure you have guards or enclosures around your work piece. I saw a guy get a thin part stuck in his chest one time using this method on a bridgport. If you create any heat through the part, the tape becomes gooey, and too pliable to hold piece.

Never heard it called "double end" tape before.

Double end tape will be next to my duct tape from now on.

What is the trick to remove part from tape when done?

Works only for soft materials

You guys hiring?

Blue painters tape and superglue works better