Fizz Giz Refillable CO2 Bulb 

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Thx, Russ. Check this one out... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-R5RObSrDlXc.html, my latest pressure regulator.

​​@@MisterFizz Very interesting seeing this done. I couldn't use it as it is. The valve would need to screw into the cartridge with an acceptable compressed gas usage thread. Glue is not ok.

Yes. Many times since the original making and posting of this video, I've regretted that slop-of-the-tongue. Thanks for watching. If you have more than a passing interest in CO₂, you may be curious to know of this alternative use of compressed carbon dioxide gas: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nH6a2VL-iK0.html

I wanted. In spite of there being lots of interested in the video and the concept, there were insufficient takers when it came to offering to purchase.

Doug Thomassen but then CO² sellers would lose $$$

WCIS !!! duck them?

They already do, look on ebay you can buy anything you can imagine.

Awsome

If you produced these for CO2 powered airsoft gun you would be raking in the dough

lol

Appreciate the suggestion. This video was made early-on in the development process. Although we never experienced a blow-out from any of those built this way, we began threading the valve insert and tapping the bulb to minimize the likelihood of that happening. Good point. O.T.... Have you ever seen CO₂ used for this purpose: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nH6a2VL-iK0.html

what is the max price you would pay , and how much pieces would you buy?

@Yavuz Onat 40000cent ? in which currency?

5$

I agree. Also, it would seem that if the pin disengaged from the seal or of the seal breaks in half while under pressure, the pin and spring could become dangerous projectiles.

evin if the pin were to pop off the ball would still keep a seal unless inserted into a device like this then it would sinply fall to bottom of the container and work just like puncturing the original

Aaron Fletcher I would certainly hope so, but I wouldn't be willing to bet someone's life (or serious injury) on it for what amounts to a novelty item. If it is refillable CO2, it should have a burst disc. Refillable CO2 canisters are available as small as 4oz and there are compressed air tanks as small as 13ci.

@@screwsinabell They also use this to bond race car spaceframes together because it's more reliable than welding which would stress the tubes.👍

Thanks for the kind remarks.

Well said and ill advised for the faint of heart. There are definitely safer approaches. Thx.

Daniel La Breche Will let you know. If 999 others join you, asking for them, I'll build them.

Mike Spike sounds good or if you build an account on etsy to sell them I could buy 6 off you for 120$ etsy let's everyone sell from all over the world . If you ever do please contact me I currently got a co2 12g hooked up to a 38 ounce tank . But it's so builky and I have a line running to it . Not ideal

+Daniel La Breche OK. Leave your eMail address here: (409) FIZZ-GIZ

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The force of compressed gas used as a propellant is proportional to the pressure the gas exerts against the pellet or other projectile being fired. Regardless of the gas used (CO₂, air, other), the pressure inside the cartridge bulb is proportional to the temperature of the gas inside the bulb. At the same pressure, and as long as a sufficient volume of gas is allowed to be discharged at the time of firing, the force exerted by the gas against the projectile should be the same from this co2 cartridge as it would be from any other co2 bulb. If you find that a non-refillable commercially available cartridge you've used has sufficient power to do what you've asked, then this refillable bulb will as well. If non-refillable bulbs aren't powerful enough for your blowback pistol, this bulb will not fix that. Hope that's of some use. Here's a use for compressed carbon dioxide gas you've probably never tried... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nH6a2VL-iK0.html

@@MisterFizz Normal one time use bulbs DO work in CO2 guns, but they don't have anything stuck im their neck that could potentially obstruct the flow of CO2 through it and possibly reduce the maximum output to something non-sufficient. That's especially critical for guns that kick the slide back to cycle the gun, like my KWC Desert Eagle. That's why I'm asking. A successful test with that particular gun would indeed mean that most CO2 powered guns would work using CO2 bulbs that have been converted in this way since it's definitely one of the guns that use the most CO2 per shot and thus require a high flow rate. And I don't think u've answered my question about the seating of the valve yet. With the high pressure inside those bulbs I fear the loctite may not be sufficient to permanently secure the valve and stop it from turning into a high velocity projectile after a whole bunch of refills, since the repeated change in pressure is basically equivalent to repeatedly pushing on the valve from inside. I think crimping the valve in place and using the loctite as a sealant only would be safer than also putting all that pressure on the loctite. Or u could add threading to the valves and cut matching threads into the bulb necks to then screw the valves in,still using loctite as sealant and thread locker. That's just a suggestion tho, I do have to say I don't really know what that stuff is capable of, it's just the lack of axial supports that makes me think the glue alone could break after a number of refillings.

@@DualDesertEagle You make a good point about having something stuck in the neck that could potentially obstruct the flow of CO2 through it. I never tested a refillable bulb in a pellet gun of any sort. Since your question deserves a real answer based upon firsthand experience, a guess would be unreliable and inappropriate. And I did completely overlook the 2nd part of your Q re: use of glue only to secure the valve body in the cartridge. Oops. After the video was made, we began threading the outside of the valve body and tapping the inside of the cartridge neck with matching threads to provide a more secure connection. The result was a safer implementation, for certain. If the glue joint failed, the shear strength of the threads made for a good backup strategy, providing a pathway for gas to vent and averting a projectile.

@@MisterFizz Good to know, coz if I ever get myself a CO2 powered gun again I'll definitely consider using this system, provided it works. If ur gonna test it I recommend the most CO2 hungry gun u can find to really find out the potential of this stuff.

No Name Now you've got one. Tell me how things turn out.

@@MisterFizz, Ha. Good one:"Turn" out.

Ask your self

Filling your lungs with compressed air without a weight belt is a bad idea - even at shallow depths. A small cartridge like this won't have much air inside, even at 1500 PSI. But if you cannot inhale the entire contents of the cartridge while standing on dry land, it's not a good idea to do it twelve feet underwater.

Spudwellington I honestly cannot stress how rediculous that is

You can die. Your lungs will explode not because of the pressure but cause of the depth diffrence.

Wow! Nice fish you've got there in your avatar, RW. Glad U-liked the vid. Thx 4 watchin'. Although slightly off-topic - but still relevant to CO₂, you may be curious to know of this alternative use of compressed carbon dioxide gas: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nH6a2VL-iK0.html

Let's C, shall we? Take 2 snapshots (side view and orthogonal w/ business end nearest camera lens). Take measurements (body OD, neck OD, overall length). Send me the pic's & the dim's. Will C what I can find out 4U and will let U-know what I think with regard to its viability U R wondering about. MrFizz@FizzGiz.com

Thanks.

Andre, I'm happy to hear of your enthusiasm. And please feel free to pass the information conveyed in this video to anyone who might benefit. I don't know much about RU-vid. But I hear there are people willing to contribute their efforts in translating closed captioning. I only recently found out how to do closed captioning. So I have done so in the only language I'm competent in - English - and I can barely speak that. I would like to see Brasilian Português and Español translations. I'm thinking of using Google Translate. But I hear it sometimes produces intolerable results. That's something I would like to see. All languages reach someone. I'm not particular and will gladly accept translation assistance from those willing to provide it - regardless of the language. If you know how to reach out for assistance in that effort, that would be a big help.

+Austin Watson same ^^ but it's an awesome idea

You can make a refillable CO₂ bulb using most any CO₂ cartridges following the steps outlined in the video. One could modify a Crosman 12g cartridge and many other disposable bulb brands. The process is not limited to just the 16g bulb shown in the video. With the right tools and equipment, pretty much any disposable bulb can be converted to a refillable.

Thanks for the kind remark.

Lol! me too, that's why I'm here

So,if this process is done once,That cartridge can be refilled multiple times?

The Navy used to use cartridges about that size to fill inflatable lifeboats. The Army had one to fill the CO2 gas laser sights on tanks. They were about 10" long and filled to 3000 PSI. Check the Army/Navy stores.

Pretty much any bulb can be converted. Some have converted the small 8g bulbs as well as 12g bulbs.

buddy guy Don't need to have. A tight mount drill is enough :)

JEBNIĘTY JAKIŚ or a drill press.

Or a drill and some wood to make a vise out of.

vote for me for president, I will make free lathes for everyone!

I have three

Please check out my comment. I had modded a Daisy Model 44 (S&W M-29), adding Bondo to the grips etc. as I used it for a target pistol, until only the tip of my finger could move. I'm looking for the pistol, because I left it with my son and when he died, his mother threw out all the things I had asked him to keep until I got back. It was some years ago, but I still hope to find it.

Espero que alguém se ofereça para contribuir com uma tradução para o português do Brasil. Ajudará os espectadores no Brasil a entender melhor as instruções fornecidas aqui.

Jack Mehoff this will be used for a lot longer than one pack

Hahahahhahaa😂

Yeah I'm not trusting glue to hold something under high pressure to save a few cents cheap enough to buy new ones

Big difference between Loctite 680 and glue. The only way that valve is coming out is if you put way too much pressure to it or heat it red with a torch.

@@kolsen6330 googles says Locktigh IS glue , whats the difference you reffering to , link please

@@hyperhektor7733 Dont believe everything google says. Go to the lock tite web page and read about their product.

@@kolsen6330 i did ! do not make claims when you can name an Argument. Whats the difference in you opinion? Henkel the manufacturer says its a flexible glue, i read the datasheet

Thanks for the kind remarks.

tomkian Thanks for the kind remarks.

Thank-you for the kind remarks. But you give me too much credit. This project was a failed entrepreneurial endeavor for me. Despite my high hopes for the product to be popular with real customers and buyers, it turns out it was more popular with RU-vid viewers. I am guessing you found my video as the result of some interest you have with carbon dioxide gas cylinders??? So, here is something new... Although slightly off-topic - but still relevant to CO₂, you may be curious to know of this alternative use of compressed carbon dioxide gas: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nH6a2VL-iK0.html.

For sure. Just use the empty cartridges that fit your BB gun to fabricate the refillable bulbs.