Flair x Hario Coffee Mill Ceramic Slim 

Thank you!

That's really cool! Hope you enjoy the video!

Hahaha I start to use 17-18 grams now too. It went well for me. But sometime, I never hit the 6 bar. On the other hand, I decided to get a Comandante now. Will review the grinder with Flair soon :)

@@pack.50milkst first try to use a lighter roast with Hario. I am getting 8-9 bar with Hario and Flair. Comandante is quite expensive.

@@sleepyfishYTPF Comandante really is an expensive grinder man. I will try to get the lighter roast from my local coffee shop nearby. :) I still don't have the Comandante, so it would be great to check out the lighter roast beans.

Hi Gamon, it’s very hard to tell what grind setting is perfect for you if I am not there. But you could try to adjust your Hario Mill till you have your first good espresso from your Neo. Then adjusting by your coffee dosage as +/- 13.5 grams. Let me know how it goes:)

Right you are, turning right grinds finer and turning left, coarser😊

First of all, 1Zpresso works perfectly for Flair :) I experienced that. Hario Mini's downside is just like you said, the distance between the steps is too big to be true. However, we could play with coffee dose instead to make this work. I have tried multiples adjustment in grams, and I found the right spot which delivers the best outcome. Still, Hario Mini would take you forever to grind coffee beans. To answer your question, the flavor of 5 clicks at 49 seconds was good. It's not a perfect espresso shot for sure, but this is a good shot if you take a try for a latte. It was not over-extracted so much but sour hahaha. XJ-Pro is also good with the Flair. For the Comandante, I believe it's not a good grinder for Espresso. I prefer REMI, 1Zpresso, or KINU as an espresso grind. First, Comandante takes more time to grind an espresso, and the step is still big. For the people who use the Comandante, they need the Red Clix to increase distance for the Espresso's steps.

@@pack.50milkst thank you for your reply. I agree with you that the Comandante is a little over estimated, especially for the price and i also agree with you that its best to get the Red Clix version. I find that the Comandante is a little inconsistent at the course level and produces a little too many fines. The Comandante is still a great grinder, but its way over priced. Its pretty amazing that a Hario grinder, pretty much the cheapest Hario grinder can grind fine enough for the Flair, i know that a ceramic burr is never going to be as good as a stainless steel burr set, but its a shame that the Hario does not have any fine adjustment, because that would save people a lot of money.

@@mightymightyironhead Definitely!

Honestly, I have tried the Porlex with Flair but it was not going well at all. I would say Hario Mill does a better job on that. but if you ask me how many clicks are possible to pull an espresso shot with Flair, I would say 3 - 4 clicks on Porlex. But still, it will not go well.

I was created by my own Hario long ago. But hopefully it's still work.

I think it’s taste ok if you drink it with a milk. But directly itself as Espresso, the flavor won’t complex enough as Kinu grinder. Also it takes forever to grind coffee hahaha.

@@pack.50milkst thanks for the input.

@@ozgurserdar8627 My pleasure man, it's fun!

@@pack.50milkst hello again. I have decided to get a more capable grinder. What do you think about jx pro/j max/je plus? In your opiniom, which one is the best for espresso (i only drink dark and very dark roasts)?

@@ozgurserdar8627 I was not sure if I am the right person for you to ask about the the 1ZPRESSO. I have never owned them. I do have Kinu Classic and the Comandante. In my opinion, Kinu (all models) works well with the flair.

Adityan Candra definitely agree, I tried the 16g earlier this morning with different kind of beans. It still delivers good result.

@@pack.50milkst hope you will get better grinder in the future 🙌🏻🙌🏻☕

@@adityancandra9711 Planning to get one, does Comandente a good choice?

Get the 1zpresso jx pro. Cheaper than commandante and has finer adjustment.

@@JidduVillarin I am actually considering 1zpresso jx pro as an option as well. Jiddu, would you say 1zpresso jx pro is a better option?

Hi Peter, indeed it does. I usually store my beans in Fellow Container now. It’s pretty cool and could vacuum the air out.