The KinGrinder P1: Why A Cheap Hand Grinder Has Me A Little Excited 

10 minutes after this vid went live and it's sold out for US at least. GG, James.

6:33 Timestamp going from 48 seconds to 50 seconds for "a bit more bonus coffee" is exactly a nerdy editing detail I watch this channel for

"Take particle analysis with a grain of salt" What size grain, James

I was once on a drill rig in the middle of a mine in the middle of nowhere mexico and the driller made me a cup of coffee using a hand grinder attached to a power drill and an aeropress. Considering the circumstances, best cup of coffee I have ever had.

"200 is a lot more than 33" is the sort of in-depth analysis I love from James

James is finally catching up with the elite budget handgrinders us peasants have been using for years

I've been using a KINGrinder K2 for the last 4 months. I love the quality and the grind variability. After looking through CoffeeRU-vid, I was almost convinced that I would never be able to make good drinks at home for less than thousands of dollars. After watching many hours of coffee RU-vid and understanding what was important about dialing in, I would go to my local favorite cafe and order a flat white once a week and come home and make myself 3-4 more drinks to try and replicate their drink. I would say that after 2 weeks, I got the espresso right and that the milk frothing took me three weeks to get right. And now, armed with a KINGrinder K2, De'Longhi Stilosa EC260BK and a few budget accessories (tamper, distribution tool and good cups) I can make espresso drinks that are comparable to all the best shops in Dallas, TX and even impress my barista friends that work with big money industrial machines. I can make beautiful and delicious espresso drinks at home with a total spend of near $200. The KINGrinder K2 was the key to unlock my home scientist process to replicate the drinks from local cafes within about 5 grind attempts.

I really appreciate the evolution of your channel from "spend more money its worth it" to "I am so giddy to find something special and affordable" *product sells out in minutes*

Pro tip for anyone with an old Hario mini mill lying around. It's probably the best black pepper grinder I've ever used. But only do that if you've retired it from coffee, since it makes for spicy brews (as I found out the hard way).

"There's something wrong with me...but why am I confessing that to you?" Oh, James, we already knew that. But that's also the appeal.

This is my favourite Makita tool review channel

I just want to share some of my experience here: I'm a barista from Brazil, and here our wages start around R$2K a month (which translates to USD 390, EU 360 and BP 310)... so not a lot of money to buy coffee accessories from other countries. White label Chinese grinders (very similar to this one or Timemore products) have been good for a while, and specialty grade national coffee is quite accessible making the best result for something that an average Brazilian can enjoy.

I literally got this exact grinder yesterday as a mere act of faith as there were not many reviews of it and I will not be able to purchase another grinder for quite some time (hard to get online sold products in my country) As a beginner coffee nerd, seeing this video uploaded the very next day by none other than James Hoffman was one of the happiest moments for me in a long time. Saw the video while drinking my second v60 poured using this grinder with a huge smile on my face. ❤️

“It turns beans into pieces of beans” 😂😂😂

James's personality really came out in this video. He made me chuckle several times. I wasn't even halfway interested in a hand grinder but enjoyed the video nonetheless. Thanks for lightening my day James!

That "Ooh Bonus Coffee" and updated timestamp was thoroughly satisfying 🤣

Please test all three KinGrinders side by side, P0 P1 P2 and analyze their particle sizes, that would be fascinating!

James, i think it is time to revisit the current state of hand grinder. Timemore has done so much since the last time you reviewed hand grinder and provided us many customers with cheaper choices for fine espresso grind (still use Timemore Chestnut C3 Nano & agree that it is arduous & painful task to grind as fine as Turkish Coffee kind of fine, but they have been quite enjoyable for manual espresso maker - no need to be too fine, just salt-like). Also, as an owner of Hario MSS-1DTB Slim grinder, I don't use it anymore since i got Cafec Tsubame TM-18 Mill, done much better results for a ceramic burr and it has been my favourite for pour over ever since.

I bought the K6 KINGrinder 2 years ago @ $99 after a year of research. I LOVE LOVE LOVE IT! It also doubles as a weapon if you’re burgled; it’s a friggin’ tank!

Pro tip: 1Zpresso grinders have a 1/4 shank. The shaft fits perfectly into a 6" Diablo drill extension, and it even locks in.

The home barista community definitely needs these kind of videos. Just read any reddit discussion around coffee equipment and you see how captured everybody has been by the industry. People believe that you need to spend 1000+ for an espresso setup, which is not a very inclusive mindset. Its actually a very consumerist and destructive view. You can even make great espresso with your old nescafe machine, with an handgrinder like this and a reusable stainless steel capsule.

Watching James grind coffee with a Makita is peak coffee 🌽 This is what i watch this for…

I bought the K6 thanks to the information on sites like this. Freshly ground beans, pour over. Already a giant improvement over the wasteful expensive Nespresso i used to make. From here it's learning what kind of beans i like, finding local roasters, improving storage, pouring methods and getting an espresso machine. Thank you for all your information James!

This is a popular brand in Asia (China, Hong Kong, Taiwan etc.). They have the "premium" range named K1-K6, all metal construction. I have the K6. I do not have equipment to do scientific tests but I use it interchangeably with my C40 and I can only say, they taste very similarly.

Drinking coffee is great, but drinking coffee while watching James Hoffman is even greater.

...and INSTANTLY out of stock on Amazon.

For a couple of years, I have sung the praise of getting into coffee GEAR cheap and then spending the real money on good beans. Timemore C2/3 and Aeropress have been my recommended first steps to a few friends. I'm glad to see even MORE options for po' folk to drink fancy.

I have the K6 with the metal body, not sure if they have it anymore, but it's been great! It was around €80 on sale. Have been using it for about 4-5 months daily with my AeroPress.

This video is a demonstration of two things: 1) investment aside, if a group has interest in developing an idea, it will be slowly optimized to cost either the same for higher quality, or cost less for the same result; 2) law of diminishing returns, as is true to many products, means that paying X times more does NOT mean 3 times better performance. It is an amazing video!

... twenty four minutes after this video went live, and only TWO left on the Amazonian UK website... New World Record!!! 🥳

I loved the vibe in this video James. You were clearly having so much fun and I feel lifted having watched it.

I got myself a Kingrinder K6 a few months back, and I really love it. It easily stomped my Timemore C3, which I used for almost 2 years. Both in speed and taste. While still being cheaper. I'd love to see what would be James's take on the K6

A couple notes. The KINGrinder grinders usually come with an additional gasket that can be swapped out that allows the lid to be used with a drill. At least, the k lineup does; I'm not sure about the p lineup. Also, the k0 and p0 burrs are copies of the Timemore C2 burr. The other burrs in their lineup may be copies of other popular hand grinders also. The p0 has the same burrs as k0, and p1 the same as k1. p2 has a new burr that's like a mini version of the k6 / k5. The p and k lines are otherwise the same, afaik, except p is plastic, k is aluminum, k has a bigger catch cup and and 40 clicks per rotation compared to p's 30 clicks. Edit: I said the p2 burr was the same as the k2 and that's entirely false, so I fixed that, above.

I moved from a $30 Hario Slim to a $100 Kingrinder K6, and boy the jump in grind quality was enormous. I didn't know their $30-range grinders performed so well, I might have considered it. But the overall metal build of K6 feels amazing, and I don't see myself replacing it for years to come. Also, the sound of removing the bottom chamber sounds like removing an m4 silencer in Counterstrike -- a joy to my ears and overall morning coffee routine.

So glad I'm not the only person putting a battery drill on a hand grinder lol.

I have the K6, which is one of their higher end grinders. It’s priced at the more budget friendly price range compared to every other brand and the K6 can match the quality of my 64mm flat burr espresso grinder. It’s crazy what this company has done in terms of quality for cost.

I want to echo the commenters who brought up Kingrinder K6. I also own one and couldn't be happier. It's made amazingly well, and using it is very enjoyable. As for the quality of the coffee made with it, I can definitely say that I was able to enjoy inexpensive dark roast decaf after switching to K6, which wasn't the case before.

Finally something I can afford :')

Sold out! Thank you for all of the amazing rabbit hole of information you make us love!

I actually use a KINGrinder K6 as my portable/work grinder and I love it to death. But I want to keep the P-series in mind for anyone in my life that shows an interest in coffee but doesn't want to invest a lot of money. I'm glad to see a good option that's really budget friendly

I bought a P0 a month after launch, and £22 truly is an unforgettably forgettable amount of money for the nice coffee it's making me.

James' ability to nail it in a blind test is incredibly impressive.

The updated grind time due to the bonus coffee, the sliding greatness scale.. I just love the editing!

When you are coming from pre-ground coffee or blade grinders, almost any hand grinder is a noticable progress. Six month ago I walked by a Tschibo shop (biggest specialised coffee retailer in Germany) and noticed that their hand grinder was on a special offer; 14.95€ from 29.95€. I had watched some of James' vids here and toyed with the thought of buying a grinder anyway, so I went in and got one. It has a ceramic burr and I did not expect much, but have to say that thing changed my coffee experience drastically. Suddenly I could experiment with different settings and taste the effects they had on the output myself.

James if I could offer an alternative option, please consider reviewing the Kingrinder K6! I know why you chose the P model, however that said if you were to pit the K6 against the likes of Comandante C40 and 1Zpresso K Ultra series I’m certain you would be shocked even more . They often sell it on Amazon for $99, I personally bought one over said brands and couldn’t be happier. Maybe you will accept my challenge 😊

I have a Kingrinder K6 (their higher end grinder) and I absolutely love it. I use it for both espresso in my Flair Classic, and for pour overs in a V60 and I love the coffee I get from both of them. It has about 240 steps (according to the Kingrinder literature each step is a 16 micron adjustment), but I’ve never really gone coarser than 70-80. I feel like there’s about 10 steps between 40-50 that are usable for espresso.

A year ago I upgraded from the Timemore C2 to the KINgrinder K6 and honestly I’ve never looked back nor have I looked at buying a new/other grinder.

I bought a K6 just before these were released and I'm kind of glad I did. I would have had a hard time justifying the K6 over one of these, but I'm glad I have external adjustments. It truly is amazing the difference each step up in grinders has made my coffee. I went from blade to a Skerton to the K6 and each time has left me shocked.

1:32 love the Bo Burnham reference!

Looks a lot like my Timemore. Which has been fantastic. So I'd also recommend that as an option.

1:29 gotta love a Bo Burnham reference with the Bezos I claps

All I can say, is that I am soooooo glad I bought my Kingrinder K4 like 6 months ago. James for sure just increased the price of all of these grinders substantially.

I bought a KinGrinder K6 and it’s superb. Indeed, the wooden knob feels luxurious on the K6, too. Try it out, I bet you’ll love it.

My Comandante has been going strong for years. I absolutely love it. But it‘s really great to see those cheap but rather high quality alternatives. Might buy one just to see how good it is.

I forget how much I've missed James Hoffmann in the past months until I see a new video. Class as always!

Thank you James. How lovely to see such enthusiasm. As someone who has not the space, nor the money, I am limited to hand grinders and coffee made using cafetières, mokka pots, Delter press and drip coffee.

I bought a Kingrinder K6 last year, luckily on a big-discount day over at Bezostown. I love it. Worlds better than the other cheap hand grinders I've owned.

I picked up a Kingrinder K 4 last year for espresso, and it's been fantastic. Burr adjustment by 16 um per click with an easy external bezel adjustment. All aluminum body with around 30g capacity, so plenty for doubles. A few shots to dial in, but now I'm enjoying pretty decent espresso. The K4 is geared towards espresso with a 48mm burr that has six blades and is specifically targeting espresso making. it was $119, but with a 30% coupon and reward points, it wound up costing me $46. Well worth it.

I bought my P2 a good 4 months ago after chipping my Porlex's ceramic burrs, and I have to say this is hands down a great grinder. I personaly dont see myself upgrading to anything else until this breaks down (in which I doubt it will due to surviving multiple drops from my clumsy self and still working perfectly fine). I don't do espresso so I cant really speak from experiance there but it does amazing for everything else! My only complaint it being limited to about 18-20 grams of beans, but other than that- its been great for its price point 🙌

I have been using a Kingrinder K6, which comes in at $100 or so, for about a year now. The K6 is a great grinder which I use near exclusively for moka (which grinds a lot (and I mean a lot) faster as espresso). I am having very consistent and good results with it. Hard to compare, not so nerdy myself I have a range of handgrinders at home.

I have the K6 and its an awesome piece that gets you high end performance and features for mid range prices.

I just got chestnut c3s pro, after using hario slim for 10 years, the difference is night and day

I have owned a Kingrinder K6 for quite some time and coming from a Hario ceramic grinder, such a great improvement in my coffee experience without breaking the bank too much. The only disadvantage I have because of the all-metal construction is the weight. So. Darn. Heavy! XDXDXD

i love that these products exist and this video exists. so specific, love it.

I have a KinGrinder 6 and I love it. I use it for v60, aeropress and Turkish, it's perfect for me.

I got one of these a while ago. I love it. I'm not so much of a connoisseur that I could justify spending $100+ on a grinder, but a cheap little guy like this that does pretty well, I'm all for it. It works great.

I have had a kingrinder k2 and k6 for a year or 2. They are fantastic. I used them for espresso and had great results, especially with the k6. I'm not surprised the p1 is great for the money.

Finally the fame this brand deserves ! I am glad to see them on this channel !

I have a P1, found it at amazon when i was looking for a cheap grinder and i've been using it for a couple of months now alongside a v60 and the combo consistently makes amazing coffee for me

I just bought a cheap hand grinder and it's def been an upgrade over my cheap electric grinder. You save money on the electronics, allowing the makers to put more into the grind itself. I'm not ready to pay more for a grinder than my espresso machine lol, so this my only real option tbh

If Mr. Hoffman is displaying this level of excitement then I will order two . Thank you James !!! The only purveyor I trust whenever I get new coffee stuff ❤

I'm going to comment having only read the title of this video because this is the exact grinder I have been using for the past 3 months, and is my first and only ever experience with a coffee grinder. I wanted a 1Zpresso after watching your and others videos, but couldn't justify the cost. Now I can't justify the upgrade because the P1 is rock solid for people like myself. Someone who wants a hand grinder but isn't concerned about dialing in the best possible grind - moreso just wants something satisfying to use that gets the job done. Which is exactly what it is.

It looks the price of the P1 has been drastically increased within minutes of the review hitting youtube.

I Just bought the K6, just playing aroung with it for a bit. It is build more sturdy and they advertise that you can use a 25NM Drill. I am excited about the speed that it grinds at and the flavor.

I've had the k6 for a couple years now, and would highly recommend that if you can scrape up the extra few bucks. It goes on sale all the time for $99, worth every penny. Dial is at top, so super easy to dial in whatever you need. Love it for espresso, takes less than a minute to hand grind and has a drill option built in (looking at you, James).

Great to know! Recently upgraded from a Porlex to the KinGrinder K6. The difference is incredible!!! The UX is great too!

I bought the Kingrinder k6 not long ago and have been loving it. It can pretty easily do espresso, but also has been giving me lovely filter coffee and french presses. I was tempted to buy the P1 at first, but I had heard it's not as good for espresso so decided to go for the more expensive model instead. Still, if you're very new to the space, and haven't done a ton of research, the P series seems like a no-brainer to me. It's good enough to where it'll be noticeably better and might get someone more excited to try different kinds of beans and techniques

The timing of this video is great, I just got a new Kingrinder K6 last week! Upgraded from my trusty Timemore C2 Chestnut which served me well for almost 3 years. I paid 90€ for it, it has a way better adjustment system and I wonder if this could maybe even compete with the Comandante. Maybe worth doing another hand grinder buying guide for 2024? 🤔

13:33 did this once, broke the grinder. Wasn't even my grinder 😓 To anyone about to try to use a drill; DON'T use the chuck to clamp onto the grinder. Find the right sized socket that will fit the grinder.

OMG! Seeing James Hoffmann use a hand drill on his coffee grinder means I don't have to sneak out to the garage to do mine anymore! Thanks, James!

The hand grinder is a decent workout, and coffee at the end is an effective motivator. Some days, it's the most exercise I get.

Definitely exciting. I'd like to give the Harrio it's due credit though. Before I could get any equipment, I was given a super old one as a hand me down and it showed me the beginning of the path to better coffee. It represented a great value until now.

I've been using the K2 from them for about a year now and have loved it so much.

I was so surprised to see that grinder in James’ s video! Because it looks a lot like my first hand grinder, and wow it is! It‘s from a Chinese company who specializes in hand grinder. From I gathered, it has two products lines, P0-P3 is more for pour over, K0-K6 is the main line which can be used for espresso, moka pot and pour over etc. I used K3 with my moka pot for a long time, my first fresh coffee grinding experience. I find the price acceptable, and the grinder is quite capable, the coffee is delicious. The brand is actually quite famous in China’s coffee circle now. I am glad to see it made into broader market.

I went through several handheld grinders and settled on the TIMEMORE Chestnut C2 Manual Coffee Grinder (25g capacity). It has a Stainless Steel Conical Burr. It produces a uniform grind with minimal residual fine/dust particles. It's all metal and feels really good in the hand. I don't have the equipment to measure the grind particles, but visually the grounds look uniform without an noticeably large chunks. I purchased it on Amazon (US) for $50 a few years ago and use it at least once a day for the last 20 months. The grind quality is pretty much unchanged since it was new. It's a little more expensive today, but it does go on sale from time-to-time.

Hi James I have got a Kingrinder 6 cost £75 .you adjust the grind setting at the top and I love it

I have bought this KINGrinder recently. It works very well. I have already ground all of my kin into dust.

I use the Kingrinder K4 for my mokapot. Very happy with it.

Bought a Timemore Chestnut C3 during the pandemic, possibly the single best thing I bought the entire period in terms of value for money. Current prices even now are under $40 USD in local currency.

I just realised why it's called that. It's short for "where's the 'kin grinder?"

Yes! KinGrinder is in the big leagues! Proud KinGrinder K4 user for my in office set up for last couple years!

These grinders are excellent, I've got the K6. Solid construction, double ball-bearing supported shaft, and the shaft itself is solid enough I'd have no gripes driving my car over it. Easy to clean, nice clickety clack changing of settings. I think now that the Coffee Messiah has endorsed it I can probably sell mine for profit haha.

"It turns beans into pieces of beans." Oh, you are hilarious.

Does it fit inside an Aeropress' plunger?

Thank you, James. I appreciate your review of this budget-friendly product for consumers like myself with modest means.

Made me happy: I bought 2 of these 6 months ago, and just hook it to my drill for both coffee and spices. Still works like a champ.

It's out of stock. I'm the US.... The James Hoffman effect is real.

Laughed a little too hard at the 2 seconds added for the “bonus coffee” 😂

I'm really hoping RU-vid have listened to James and allowed Hames to come back. Cos if this is what he starts with, we're can all die happy knowing we've seen his best work. 😂

Great video! I have the Kingrinder K1 which I bought for 60 Euros (roughly 57 pounds) and it is simply amazing. Zero retention, robust, hefty, well built. I got great results for Moka Pot, Espresso and even Turkish.