Flamenco Rhythm Revelation: How Fandango de Huelva Changed My Understanding Of Compás!🤘🤘🤘

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The Fandango de Huelva compás looks very simple, but it is actually more complex than it looks and it is very interesting! If we just think of it in 3 beats, then we miss the essential aspect which gives it its particular flavor, its personality. This compás is like a 3-dimensional rhythmic cycle. Technically, we call this a crossed meter or polymeter. We don't necessarily care about the name, but this is what makes this compás much more interesting than a simple 3 beats compás: the superposition of these 2 layers creates something new, unique, a 3rd dimension that needs 6 beats to fully unfold.
The basic palmas pattern is kind of a flat 2-dimension transcription of the 3D, trying to express everything but just with palmas. The guitar however is much better to express the 3D.
This multidimensional aspect of rhythm is really important in flamenco. You’ll find it in many palos, as in bulería.
Part #1: Flamenco Compás Tutorial - Understand the Fascinating Compás of the Fandango de Huelva: • Flamenco Compás Tutori...
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Intro: 00:00
1· Something Strange : 01:25
2· Like the First Time: 03:03
3· Time Tables: 05:04
4· Experience: 06:55
5· Three-Dimensional: 08:48
6· Take Five: 10:08
7· Take it All: 11:52
8· Hit or Miss: 13:56
Conclusion: 14:32
ámono: 15:23
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@FlamencoMAPS 2 года назад

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@deutsche_lyrik 6 дней назад

Sehr sehr gut und logisch verständlich erklärt 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 Gerade der Teil, wo du sagst: "Stell dir vor, du hast noch nie im Leben Fandango de Huelva gehört oder gespielt.", macht es aus und erklärt genau was du meinst 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 Danke für das Video und herzliche Grüße aus Deutschland 😊

@FlamencoMAPS 6 дней назад

Vielen Dank amigo! 🙃🙏I’m so glad it helped!

@joaovergiliogalleranicuter4451 2 месяца назад

I should have seen this video before! It is like listening the fandango for the first time! I went to Paco de Lucia's Aires Choqueros after the class and it was like having a completely different world in front of me. Thanks a lot!!!!!!

@FlamencoMAPS 2 месяца назад

So cool! Thanks a lot João!

@kathrynfernandezsun9367 2 года назад

Wow! This was SO helpful! Fantastic! Thank you!

@FlamencoMAPS 2 года назад

Thanks Katy! Thanks m glad it helped 🙃

@mistaowickkuh6249 Год назад

I realized I didn't comment to thank you all this time, I must have been mesmerized. This video is a priceless gem on this platform, a true masterclass actually. It answered my questions perfectly; turns out I was not crazy!

@FlamencoMAPS Год назад

Realizing this was an epiphany for me! Haha you are definitely not crazy! 😜 thanks for the comment

@robbes7rh 8 месяцев назад

In classical music this is called Hemiola. You find it in the instrumental music of Handel and Bach when triple meter was very much in fashion. Flamenco keeps alive such elements that are both sophisticated and charming.

@FlamencoMAPS 8 месяцев назад

Thank you very much for this enlightening comment! I knew the HORIZONTAL hemiola (the one from "West Side Story") that flamenco also uses in different rhythmic patterns. But I didn't know about the VERTICAL hemiola you're talking about. This seems to be an important characteristic of sub-Saharan African music, and since the recent development and research into the African roots of flamenco particularly in terms of rhythm, it all makes sense. I will continue reading and listening ;-) I like being able to put things into words, so I really appreciate this insight! Greetings. G.

@RolfTrenkler 2 года назад

Great great explanation !

@FlamencoMAPS 2 года назад

Thanks Rolf! 🙃

@veronicamedina3388 Год назад

Excellent as always. i avoided F d H because I didn't get it! Mil gracias maestro.

@FlamencoMAPS Год назад

Gracias Vero! FdH is fascinating to me!

@oaanouar 10 месяцев назад

I love this video...I'm a lover of Flamenco and always try to find the rythmes ...I understand exactly what you are saying although im not a guitarist.. imagine yu have to master the rythm and then you put the guitar on the top.....chapeau bas

@FlamencoMAPS 10 месяцев назад

Thanks a lot! 🙃🙏 I’m glad it helped you. It’s always good to practice rhythm on its own and then put the guitar on top, but practicing guitar consciously and with awareness of what’s happening rhythmically also helps master the compás itself ;-)

@zizou37 2 года назад

Excellent

@MariaOsende Год назад

You are fantastic!

@FlamencoMAPS Год назад

Haha thank you! 🙃😁

@resheton Год назад

Fascinating!

@FlamencoMAPS Год назад

It is, right? 🙃

@resheton Год назад

@@FlamencoMAPS 👍👋👋👋👋👋👋💪👋👋👋👋👋

@FlamencoMAPS Год назад

@@resheton 😁😁

@alirezamoghadamnia9712 7 месяцев назад

Thank you soooo much ❤❤❤❤❤

@FlamencoMAPS 7 месяцев назад

A pleasure! 😉🙏

@RicardoMarlowFlamenco Год назад

Amigo, very beautiful videos! So, it hurts me to point out your punta Umbria de Paco, is cruzado….in your counting the phrase should start on count 5. As there are two phrases the same, you can actually think of it as starting on count 11, the second phrase starting on count 5. And that type of phrase is standard for guitar falsetas por fandango. I have a tutorial of Paco’s Fandango por medio that explains it.

@FlamencoMAPS Год назад

Thanks so much for pointing it out, Ricardo. You're totally right. I got carried away and maybe didn't realize it because I didn't play the falseta until the end. Even though it illustrated the main message of the video (articulating many sentences in 2 beats), it is cruzado, so I deleted that part of the video, as it was not essential to make my point. Thanks so much for watching and commenting!

@SoumyadiptaRay Год назад

Your video helps a lot to people like me who doesn’t belong from any Spanish background.. thank you so much for enriching us.. lots of love n respect from India 🇮🇳… Just have one question here… what’s this mic your using for your guitar in this video…???

@FlamencoMAPS Год назад

You are so welcome! I’m very happy it helps! What part of India? 🙃

@audreycalvo8097 Год назад

It kind of feels like Fandangos is layering classical or a folkloric form (Sevillanas) on flamenco - because you could count it as a 12-beat I think, because the melody is 12-beat. But it also sounds like Sevillanas and that is 6-beat.

@FlamencoMAPS Год назад

Thanks for watching and commenting Audrey! Are sevillanas part of flamenco, or folk songs and dance? Big and controversial question! 😅 But Fandango de Huelva and Sevillanas share the same basic compás. I would never recommend counting Fandango in 12, it is (in my opinion) artificial and it puts the cante in a cage. I explain why here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Xx3jsU9gDfQ.html

@christopherlord3441 Год назад

My explanation is that flamenco relies on 'paradoxical' musical forms. Rhythmically there is this constant tension between 2 and 3 beat stress, and melodically and harmonically there is a tension between the basic Phrygian or diatonic idea and a kind of chromatic/diminished harmony which keeps coming back to the flat 5 played as a harmony note: again, playing two things that don't coexist in 'normal' music at the same time. These devices give flamenco its great fascination, so that despite its simple harmonic language it never gets old. Blues music is another example of a paradoxical form, with major, minor and pentatonic often coexisting in one song.

@FlamencoMAPS Год назад

I love this idea! Thanks for sharing! These things seems paradoxical but end up being incredibly compatible! I agree, blues and flamenco have many such things in common. Not directly in the musical material itself, but the way it is used, mixed, interpreted and kept alive.

@christopherlord3441 Год назад

@@FlamencoMAPS I think we agree but just to be clear I mean 'paradoxical' as a technical term. If you take Middle Eastern modal music for instance, one of the melodic inputs into flamenco, that is not paradoxical, as it strictly follows the logic of whatever mode you are playing in, which makes it sound monotonous to us. But both flamenco and blues superimpose two (or more, rarely) modes at the same time: as if the black notes of the piano were shifted down a semitone so you had two scales starting on C for instance. And then rhythmically paradoxical as you say. Actually I think this is the gypsy element because Balkans music has similiar contradictions, though with irrational time signatures like 5/4 and 7/4.

@FlamencoMAPS Год назад

@@christopherlord3441 I understand what you mean ;-) What I meant is that maybe these things seem paradoxical from the Western music theory perspective, but in practice, they work and we enjoy them, right?

@christopherlord3441 Год назад

@@FlamencoMAPS The word 'paradoxical' is not a criticism. Of course, I love both flamenco and blues. I think this explains a lot of what makes both so fascinating for players and listeners alike.

@FlamencoMAPS Год назад

@@christopherlord3441 Yes I agree! It is definitely an interesting concept that helps better understand why these musics are so difficult to grasp, to write and to teach 😅Thanks a lot for sharing these ideas!

@vonanthonymacaraig1211 Год назад

Is fandango de huelva a music piece or a palo?

@FlamencoMAPS Год назад

It is a palo 😌

@elyasuaral 26 дней назад

does fandango have yamada?

@FlamencoMAPS 26 дней назад

Potentially every palo has a llamada. Are you referring to dance or guitar?

@elyasuaral 26 дней назад

@@FlamencoMAPS no matter playing solo guitar or accompaniment with singer, i want to know that famous part of fandango de huevla that we play as a compas of fandango, is it called yamada? Like yamada on bulerias and tangos?

@elyasuaral 26 дней назад

@@FlamencoMAPS some techers say we don't have yamadas in tientos,alegria,fandangos, is that true? I always care about what spanish says, so your information is so important for me

@FlamencoMAPS 26 дней назад

I’m not sure what you call “llamada” in the other palos, but many times it’s more about the intention that you give (like a clear cut) than what you actually play. The guitar vocabulary evolved a lot and in older toques, a llamada is only compás with a stronger intention. PD: I’m not a Spaniard but French although I lived many years in Spain 😜

@FlamencoMAPS 26 дней назад

So por fandango de Huelva, if you play the usual compás with intention and closing, it will perfectly serve as a llamada. (With “ll” and not “y” by the way) 🙃