Flamvell - Failed Cards, Archetypes, and Sometimes Mechanics in Yu-Gi-Oh 

oh boy, I cant wait for the new Flamvell support

Another unfortunate case of an Archetype that really needed more Spell/Trap support instead of more bodies being thrown at it

when your best monster effect involves "attack with 1900 and destroy something" we have a big problem

This was my first "real" deck when I started playing in 2010. I was 12 years old and the guys at my locals helped hook me up with the Firedogs, Magicians, Rekindlings, and some level 8 synchros. It wasn't the best deck in the room by far, but it was affordable and enjoyable for me as a new player. Forever thankful to those guys at my locals for helping me out with this deck.

I wish there were more 200 def fire monster than there actually are. Rekindling is such a cool card

Flamvells were good for something, and that was carrying me through the 2010 and 2011 WCS games on DS. There's a card called Raging Flame Sprite, which is a FIRE Pyro with 100 Atk / 200 Def. Its effect lets it attack directly, and it gains 1000 Atk every time it deals battle damage. This card was my boss monster for these games. When I found out about this card, I built a deck focused on summoning this and buffing it up. It was ridiculously good at dealing with the boss decks (like Earthbound Immortals and Meklords). I used whatever cards helped, battle phase protection, equip spells, searching and recycling. I remember using some Flamvell cards as well. For someone who hadn't really played Yu-Gi-Oh! before, it was a godsend.

Can't wait for the new Flamvell support to be announced in 10 days.

Diabolical idea: make an archetype of Fire-attribute Reptiles where they all have 200 defense. That way you can Snake Rain into Rekindling for all the advantage.

Your Gravekeeper Spy was showing the effect of Gravekeeper Spiritualist.

I am so used to Duel Links that, when Logs talked about Firedog being a single-turn Synchro Summon, I had to remind myself that Main Phase 2 is a thing in the TCG/OCG/Master Duel.

If Flamvell gets new support I will blame popular youtubers for this

Gravekeeper's Spy so good at her job that she fooled TheDuelLogs that she was Spiritualist 5:45

Fun fact: flamvell hedgehog became shaddoll hedgehog in lore.

Babe wake up new Duel Logs video

In Yu-Gi-Oh world Championships 2011 for DS. There was a free Duel NPC (in think that was Flamvell Baby). That used a Flamvell deck with Magical Merchant. Só he could mill Flamvell Monsters and add reklindling to his hand with a singles Flip.

Man I loved Flamvell. Used to run a Red Nova Flamvell deck that I designed myself that for once had more wins than losses. I miss that deck.

Flamvells didn't even need to be that bad either. It could have just been mediocre. But Konami is going to Konami, and is just going to make the cards just plain bad, even for the era they debut in. Unlike all the other decks in this series, there's no one or two cards that can save the whole thing, nor is there a redeeming factor for them. Morphtronics have an FTK, Union monsters have the ABC cards, and the Silent cards literally got legacy support less than two weeks ago (as of this video). Flamvells need a complete overhaul.

Please, for the love of any Gods that we believe in, make a Mecha phantom beast failed cards and mechanic videos, I have been waiting for supports for 5 years now.

Konami tomorrow : Flamevell something - eff : if this card summon, you win the game

5:37 Uh oh, looks like Gravekeeper's Spy got his hands on the Spytron 3000 Disguise Kit.

Before Laval, there was a monster mash deck that was decent that surrounded them. It used magical merchant to mill as much of the deck as possible before using a spell and trap wipe and rekindling to swarm the field and OTK.

If I’m reading Origin right, it would actually work best on Turn 1. Its effect works if your opponent has 3 cards _or less_ in their GY, and since they start off with _no_ cards in their GY, just Summon a Flamvell, then you can Special Summon Origin from your hand for Synchro plays. It’s not a _great_ combo, but at least it _works._

I know it will hurt me, but I'd be interested in hearing about the Gusto Archtype

Okay what the heck is going on with the Neo Flamvell part of the video? The effects on the cards and what's being said is almost the complete opposite for Shaman and Origin. Shaman wants to banish SPELLS for the burn, not monsters. And Origin wants the opponent to NOT have cards in their grave, making the first turn the ONLY turn it could be used consistently because the opponent doesn't have cards in the grave yet.

4:05 The moment I read “Ally of Justice” was the moment I knew this card was screwed from birth… Let me fix that for BOTH archetypes: _Ally of Justice Emmesary - Flamvell Magician_ Level 4 Pendulum Scales: 0⬅️➡️0 _DARK monsters you control are also treated as FIRE attribute. FIRE monsters you control are also treated as DARK attribute. DARK and FIRE monsters you control gain 400 ATK for every DARK and FIRE monster you control. You can apply 1 of the following effects of “Ally of Justice Emmesary - Flamvell Magician” per turn:_ ⚪️You can banish 1 FIRE Syncrho monster you control facedown: Synchro Summon 1 DARK Synchro monster from your extra deck using DARK and FIRE monsters from your hand or field as materials. ⚪️You can banish 1 DARK Syncrho monster you control facedown: Synchro Summon 1 FIRE Synchro monster from your extra deck using DARK and FIRE monsters from your hand or field as materials. Pyro/Pendulum/Tuner/Effect _You can tribute 1 FIRE or DARK monster with 200 or less DEF (Quick Effect): Special summon this card from your hand or Pendulum zone. Gains 400 ATK for every face-up DARK and FIRE monster on the field. If this card is used as tribute or material for the summon of a DARK or FIRE monster: You can discard 1 card; place this card into your pendulum zone. You can apply 1 of the following effects of “Ally of Justice Emmesary - Flamvell Magician” per turn:_ ⚪️Tribute 1 FIRE monster from your hand or field: Add 1 spell/trap to your hand (from your deck or GY) that mentions DARK in it’s effects. ⚪️Tribute 1 DARK monster from your hand or field: Add 1 spell/trap to your hand (from your deck or GY) that mentions FIRE in it’s effects. ATK/1400 DEF/200

sad the deck is bad, neo flamvell lady is such a beautiful card

'we're going for low hanging fruit today' what an awesome way to start a video

6:49 And some more love for these 2 here: _Flamvell Newborn_ (FIRE) Level 1 Pyro/Tuner/Effect _(Quick Effect) You can send this card from your hand or field to the GY: All FIRE monsters you control gain 400 ATK. Once per turn (Quick Effect), you can banish 3 “Flamvell Newborn”s from your hand, field and/or GY facedown: Apply 1 of the following effects:_ ⚪️Special summon 1 FIRE monster from your hand, deck or GY with 3000 or less ATK or DEF. ⚪️Activate 1 Spell/Trap from your hand, deck or GY that mentions FIRE in it’s effects. ⚪️Fusion, Synchro, Xyz or Link summon 1 FIRE monster from your extra deck, using FIRE monsters from your hand and/or field as materials. ATK/800 DEF/200 _Flamvell Drake_ (FIRE) Level 4 Dragon/Effect _(Quick Effect) You can special summon this card from your hand or GY by tributing FIRE monsters from your hand or field who’s combined Levels/Ranks/Links equals or exceeds 4. If a FIRE monster you control destroys a monster by battle or card effect: Inflict damage to your opponent equal to the Level/Rank/Link of the destroyed monster x 200, then you can increase or decrease the Level/Rank of a FIRE monster you control by equal to that destroyed monster’s Level/Rank/Link._ ATK/1700 DEF/200

Neo Flamvell Lady and Firedog has use in Shiranui decks due to Shiranui monsters having less than 200 DEF. It's something they can use for their plays while setting up further extra deck summons

Well I only used Grunika along with power zone, junk barrage, attribute bomb The plap plap plap effect damage is just glorious!

I remember playing Firedog and Magician. We called the deck Firecat, on account of combining Firedog and Magician with Rescue Cat and low level beast type monsters for low level tuning. The deck also contained Gravekeepers and a little bit of Blackwing, along with toolbox cards like Cyber Dragon, Ryko, Hamster and Caius. Good deck for a while, but the Flamevell was merely a 1 2 punch with Firedog and Magician. Other than those 2 cards and rekindling, Flamvells never fit into the deck.

Please do noble knights or grave keepers. God I loved both of those back when I was playing Yu Gi oh all the time.

I am curious on the worms archtype. Most videos are either talking about the ice barriers because of their syncro dragons, or the ally of justice because they are so bad. Out of all the hidden arsenal archtypes, ive not heard a single peep about worms other than flip monsters.

I play pure flamvell lots, glad to see someone covering it!

Flamevell did well as an engine... For laval. So a pile of pyro stuff that happen to help each other because Konami mostly abandoned them.

Alright folk set timer for how long until Flamvell support is releaved.

get ready for flamvell support in 2 weeks

You should talk about Team Unicorn stuffs, especially their boss monsters because most Beast monsters they have have been really bad since its release.

May have to reread Origin there buddy. Reading the card explains the card. Pretty sure it was meant as an extender if you have that alongside Firedog in your opening hand. SS Origin, NS Firedog, BP swing with Firedog, SS a 200 DEF monster then Main 2, synchro shoukan for like a Trishula or something, depending on what you brought out with Firedog's effect.

I wonder if the new support for the archetype will do it any justice

I'm still looking the dragunity archetype in this series...someday

I had a flamvell/volcanic burn hybrid deck that ran well and this was during burning abyss/kozmo time. It always felt like the archetype was too inconsistent to run pure, but works moderately well in tandem with other archetypes

4:12 Let me see if I can amend the other Flamvells here: _Flamvell Guardian_ (FIRE) Level 1 Dragon/Tuner/Gemini This card is treated as a Normal Monster while face-up on the field or in the Graveyard. While this card is face-up on the field, you can Normal Summon it to have it be treated as an Effect Monster with these effects: ⚪️You can conduct 2 additional normal summons/sets of FIRE monsters per turn, not just 1. ⚪️You can change the battle position of a FIRE monster immediately after you summon it. ⚪️If an attack position FIRE monster you control is attacked, you can change it to DEF position, then (During the damage step only) increase it’s DEF by Equal to it’s ATK. ATK/100 DEF/2000 _Flamvell Dragoon_ (FIRE) Level 2 Dragon/Tuner/Effect _Can attack an additional time per battle phase for every other “Flamvell Dragoon” you control. If this card is destroyed or banished by battle or an opponent’s card or effect: Inflict 500 damage to your opponent and increase your LP by 500. While this card is in your hand, on the field, or in the GY (Quick Effect): You can banish 1 face-up FIRE monster you control: Special summon 1 “Flamvell Dragoon” from your hand, deck or GY._ ATK/1100 DEF/200 _Flamvell Uru_ (FIRE) Level 6 Pyro/Synchro/Tuner/Effect 1+ Tuners + 1+ non-tuner monsters _If a “Flamvell” monster you control inflicts battle or effect damage to your opponent: You can Synchro Summon this card from your extra deck using FIRE monsters from your hand for field as materials. If a monster you control attacks a Defense Position monster, inflict piercing battle damage. Monsters you control gain 300 ATK each time battle or effect damage is inflicted onto either player. During the end of your battle phase, you can tribute 3 FIRE monsters from your hand or field: You can conduct an additional battle phase in a row._ ATK/2300 DEF/200

One of my very first cards was Ancient Flamvell Diety. Such a cool looking card. It was holographic, too, although I do not remember what rarity.

funny coming across this video. im currently trying my hardest to make a modern version of laval. these "when" effects are killin me 😢

i have flamevell firedog,rekindling,flamevell counter, flamevell guard,flamevell poun and neo flamevell sabre. i got them out of the original fire kings structure deck box.

Thank you Duel Logs

Still waiting for that Nordics video. With that said, this one was great but painful. If Konami just took note of what works and what doesnt between archetypes. Its because of them just doing whatever that warrocks exist lol.

For the next episode of this series, can you please do noble kights?

Of all cards Flamvell Firedog was the first i ever owned so it has a special place in my heart

Please do a video on the seal of orichalcos/ the arichalcos arc cards

You should talk about the grave keepers, archetype because I feel like they’re underappreciated in the modern game

You should do a video on mikanko cards. The best ones to use and maybe possible counters to them?

Seeing the new recent theme with Konami, Flamvell support should be coming in the next few days !

I ran an awful otk deck that would work sometimes lol, magical merchant milled the whole deck until you got rekindling. Only spell card. Then spam extra deck monsters and swing for game

Flamvell support coming this week LET'S GOOOOOOO

Have you ever done a gravekeeper video ? Hinestly my favorite archetype ever since the old structure deck

Do a list on the top 10 light monsters next

So I try to make sense of this deck and a common theme I saw is, it involves the battle phase, banishing your opponents GY and milling, so maybe a field spell that Mills a flamvell monster once per turn, target 1 flamvell monster you control it can attack 2 times this turn ( you cannot declare an attack except with FIRE monsters) flamvell monsters you control gain 100 Atk X their level and a continuous spells that if you control a flamvell monster you can normal summon a flamvell monster in addition to your normal summon and each time a flamvell monster inflicts battle damage you can target one card in your opponents GY: banish it And get their own link monster too if genex got one then why not flamvell Probably not enough to fix it but it's something

Why is the effekt from Gravekeeper's Spiritualist in the textbox from Gravekeeper's Spy?

New flamvell support incoming let's goooooo

New Flamvell support looking crazy

I remember using flamvell guard in my old hieratic deck to access odd numbered synchros

The first Flamvell card I saw was Firedog and I immediately knew it was a good card simply because it worked well with other fire cards. Then I looked up other Flamvell cards to see if there was any synergy, and I immediately noticed all the other Flamvell cards sucked. They either didn't have good enough effects, were outclassed by other cards that did the same thing but better, or they were too difficult to set up.

A failed archetype that comes to mind is war rocks. I love the card art so much but it’s a shame it doesn’t really work. The concept and idea is cool and can be fixed with some good support cards

I would love if they mixed Flamvell and Sparks like effects as a combined theme

I'd like to propose vendread for this series, would love to hear your take on them.

Anyone notice that at 5:56 gravekeepers spy has the text of gravekeepers spiritualist?!

If flamevel came out in 2020 they Probly would have good effect and could have worked with salamengreat

I remember I used to search Lyla with flamvell poun back then

... yea this one hurt my heart a little but yes i am just not able to put any reasonable flamvellengine into a firethemed deck current maindeck i use consists of volcanic as a draw and destruction engine and Laval and snake-eyes for either bodies or beatstick

5:36 Huh, that's one odd Spy when you look at the text.

We need more Flamvell support in Duel Links. it's funny because Fire Formation is actually starting to get some support from the new Lunalight box it's a better time to run Beast-warrior type now more than ever

They need a card other than Rekindling. A 200 def hand trap. A rescue rabbit that summons itself if you have a fire 200 def on field. A synchro that negates by milling 200 def monsters.

Baby wake up, possible Flamvell support incoming!

4:10 LOOOOOOORRRRRRREEEEEEEEEE

I'm watching this video with the expectations that Cimo's progression series 2 escapades are at the very least mentioned

Can you cover Kozmo we really need new support

i didnt know flamvell considered a failure i used to run turbo quassar with flamesworn engine with 3 rekindling and magic stone excavation and topping locals with that

What about psychic-type mechanic when you pay LP to activate effect? Are they a failure too?

Never thought I would say that...but gosh, Cloudian looks meta right now !

My favorite Edison deck

You should do Gimmick Puppets

The fact that Flamvell debuted during the Synchro era, and had no easy special summons was a sign that it had a problem.

Ah how I loved my Laval's good times good times

Welcome to DuelLogs of the Worthless!

also i think that mermail are interesting and u should talks about them

what is the different between flamevell and laval? they are both fire pyro(mostly) which loves to synchro summon and millimg themself and have a lot of monsters with 200 def

I so want Laval support.

don't forget flamevel guard saw plays in blue eyes when they got azure eyes

😕😕😕😕 Where i can watch the banlist tierlist full video!? 😔😔😔😔

First. Also, we need a 'TheDuelLogs DuelLogs Duel Logs channel now'

Why gravekeeper spy is shown with the ability to fusion summon?! it effect summon a small gravekeeper from the deck

One of the single best SPELLS I’ve ever seen in the game, with NO way to properly search it, and very few FIRE monsters to properly use it…. I hope it truly get phenomenal support, or new LAVAL monsters that can abuse Rekindling.

Gravekeeper spy you showed didn't have the flip effect lol

Is there a truly strong FIRE attribute or Pyro type deck at all? I don't know if any archetypes that are based around either that are any good at all, but maybe a newer archetype has popped up that I don't know anything about.

I always think "Hey, Flamvell isn't that bad!" - and then I remember Laval is the early Synchro era FIRE archetype that I'm actually thinking of. Though I reckon all Flamvell really needs is a Rekindling searcher - perhaps more crossover with Laval or some Spell/Trap cards that emulate the mass send to grave effects that Laval has - and then I think jank enthusiasts would be more willing to give it a try.

What about the nordic archtype with Odin, Thor and Loki? Arent they also a failed archtype? If they are then please show why

Make a Thunder Dragon video plz, I want new support

Thank god we finally got a really good fire deck with snake eyes that also play flamvell baby