Flaps Are Making You Lose Fights, Here Is How To Fix That! - War Thunder Guides 5.0 

26 minutes of listening to a dutchman talk about flaps and I didn't need to Tier 3 sub to OF???? Sign me up.

1 circle this 2 circle that, brother please draw a circle around who asked.

The Fw-190s have taught me that flaps are NOT for consistent turning speed, they are for getting a quick boost to your maneuverability and helping to dump airspeed.

Defyn takes tremendous pride in the unparalleled ability to expertly manipulate plane flaps. The precision, folks, it's unbelievable. Defyn's control and strategic deployment of flaps showcase a profound understanding of aerodynamics, allowing for seamless navigation through the skies. Whether optimizing performance mid-flight or executing flawless takeoffs and landings, Defyn's mastery of flaps reflects a dedication to the art of flying that is truly unmatched. Big flap skills, huge even.

Thanks for the spotlight at 2:57 I was really nervous when I recorded that bit

2:57 "umm actually 🤓☝" impression caught me lacking LMAO

3:11 - aerospace engineer at uni, most of what we do is theoretical bullshit as you say. Defyn just thanos snapped an entire industry into the ether

Flap keybinds can be simplified to just lower flaps and toggle flaps, lower them to whatever level you want and toggling flaps will revert to the zero position

I'm beginning to feel like a flap god, flap god

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So it seems like a good rule of thumb is this: activate flaps when you want to go slower but turn faster. I used to think they were pretty much just free turn boosts, so thanks!

Once in sim battles I was flying a J7W1 at low alt and got jumped by a P-51D. Didn’t have a choice but to dogfight. Thought I would lose because the J7W can’t turn in any kind of fight and doesn’t have enough power at low alt, but I somehow gained on the P-51 in a nose-to-tail fight as I call them (rate fight or 2-circle are the other names), and won. Kind of. Had only 1 round per gun left, missed the shot, and had to make a break for it. But I had my sights on him. Later saw the replay, and sure enough, guy had his landing flaps out.

Blackboard Picasso is back

Ive waited for this video for so long. Thanks for delivering Defyn!

By watching you and learning how to fly props I was able to have a pretty dirty dogfight in a ME410 against a single engine. Throttle management and reading his flying was great. When he went to stall with flaps I read my energy and sat behind him and stalled after him a few times to get the bag in the end.

Thank you for putting this out!

Finally afer a long wait thank you defyn

This will greatly affect my mirage 2000 gameplay

I always love these kinds of videos cause I’ll be like “oh, he’ll probably do this” and then he’ll be like “only a dumbass would do this here”

for some planes it also feels like the center of lift moves when using flaps at certain speeds. when you get above 900kph in the super etendard and deploy combat flaps you will actually start while geting a bigger radius and a lower turnrate, but without losing speed , because the elevator can't deflect enough to offset the changed center off lift at those high speeds. This also applies to the last "trick" using flaps to pitch up without tailcontrol, some planes start to pitch down more in that scenario, both etendards do that aswell as some other jets.

Great work covering flaps! I discovered on my own that flaps help when tail control is severed and I'm glad to see a more in depth video on them in general keep it up

I'm so thankful you made a guide on this, even though I've stopped playing since this September I really appreciate knowing Why am I bleeding so much energy during certain moments of my friendly 1v1s

I been waiting for this!

Thank you for your videos. Not just these guides, but generally. I learned more from them than from many years of me playing WT on my own. Great job!

This is exactly the kind of video I need. I really enjoy learning these things that help me. And it's really nice to see myself improving

flaps are killing your (speed) gains

Always love your guides, thanks for making this! ♥

Fantastic video Defyn.

I discovered you channel through Oddbawz cas video, and i find your style of content very enjoyable, while also learning a lot about how do fly my planes. Thank you for making these videos.:)

Ever since I saw you from some oddbawz video i've been loving your channel. Great, informative and pretty funny content, keep it up

Man, this was a excellent video! such a simple feature yet it can make a huge different when employed correctly. 25 minutes of high level knowledge!

Well put together :)

Hey Glitch, how much does the French Yak-3 cost? Cheers.

I’ve been a studying flaps for years, didn’t think I’d get a chance to study Defyn’s flaps

Love this type of videos when I actually learn stuff

Using flaps to control with no elevator is massive, didn't even think about it but it makes sense

Commenting to boost you in the algorithm, godspeed DEFYN.

Tutorials are back hell yeah

Amazing video, thank you so much

Using the Harrier GR.7 with landing flaps above 200mph and thrust vectoring below gives you the turning ability of a spitfire

Ngl, the makeshift elevator trick is mindblowing. I had plenty of times when I could fly my plane mostly straight, but the lack of elevator control made me fall to the ground, if only I knew this earlier, it would have saved me on so many matches. Thanks for the tip.

Very informative

This was amazing

Hornet mk3 not trying to overheat in a ratefight at 280kph:🥵 also if you ever need an airbrake on this thing just open the radiators fully.

Thank you for the effort of making these video. It very helpful for me. Regards from South Africa

How much does the French Yak-3 cost, Glitch?

Another useful tutorial to make me less of a noob pilot in wt, cheers!

Good guide 👍

Good guide👍

God forbid, I watched this for entertainment, but it was a well structured video and therefore it deserves high praise. Great job, Defyn!

This video is very informative thank you

thanks dood

Maybe now i wont lose so many dogfights, defyns a 🐐 for helping people

This video was very entertaining and informative. :)

Flaps are ALWAYS going to be detrimental in terms of lift to drag. If they weren't, designers would just make the airfoil shaped as if they were deployed at all times and trim it a bit differently. Instead of this nice tapered shape on the trailing edge of the wing you get this big mess with a ton of turbulence behind it, and it's immediately obvious why it kills your speed. Lift increases so induced drag increases, and the profile becomes pretty shit so profile drag increases too.

m8 after watching a few of your videos my stats have gone up by an insane amount. i always knew i was a noob, even with 1600 hours in the game and at least 1000 od those hours have been failing at air rb. i went from 1 kill every 5 battles to 1 every battle and there is still so much room for improvement, i was about to give up after i reached the mig 23 a few weeks ago.. now i bought the mig 29g. thanks to your tips!! thanks bro.

Dam Defyn definitely was a geometry nerd. Awesome video as always dude

Fantastic videeo.

Excellent stuff! Blueballed me on the Fowler flaps :( but you did it right though lol

I used to use flaps very rarely if at all. I’ll be sure to put this knowledge to good use

Brotha nailed the thumbnail design ❤

i needed this soo much

good video

Your chalkboard handwriting is extremely consistent and beautiful. Just like flaps.

I kinda learned some of this by just experimenting, figuring out the maneuvrability boost with the He 51, the speed of flap deployment with the F4U, and the varying utility of landing flaps with the Fw 190. Know your plane

bless you

P-38 Flaps are do or die. You lose those puppies and its game over. Absolutely make the plane capable of solo'ing almost any prop plane in the game.

the umm actually nerd voice got me lmao. instant sub

ngl i knew already the makeshift elevator part. american aircraft like the P-38 are good with it ( once landed without a wing, elevators and an engine )

I'm ex-gladiator from 2014 of CIS region and this guide is great. I no longer play this nonsense game, however I'd like to make a shoutout to this guide and author that this is very valid and useful work he did. And the amount of live examples given makes it really solid. Basically, could be much more simple for regular weeb players if you'd just explain them kinetic/potential energy basics and principles of lift generation by the fixed wings and the flaps by extension. I know, WT and real physics are very separated terms from each other, however since those times it fair to say that things got improved.

I have bound my flaps up/down to the extra buttons on my mouse. I also have WTRTI to remind/shout at me if I have flaps deployed among WEP time left for those few planes that I fly with limited WEP Fuel KG+ fuel kg/min is also useful info when playing afterburning jets

>"Let's solve that issue real quick" >proceeds with 25 minutes video

Good

Thanks for this vid Defyn, I'll admit, my knowledge is lacking and I roughly understood 50% of what was said 😅. But a great watch never the less.

Thanks DEFYN, this is very helpful. And call me weird but I actually found it entertaining as well. :3

I use flaps sparingly as my physics understatement derive that to get turning ability you need to have interaction with air which is drag.

DEFYN: If you clicked on this video you probably are using flaps wrong. Me:🗿 Nuh uh

As myself i use mouse wheel for flaps for fast changing, gives you very good spot between combat and take off flaps. Also as well between zero flaps and combat in high speeds but i do this in motion since you can't set a fixated angle of flaps in game...

Ive found using the p51h will teach you well how flaps work.

wish watching these videos prevented me from getting absolutely dumpstered in my corsairs

Hey Defyn, how does the I-225 fit into this? Great flaps and engine power, great energy, would you consider this an exception as well? 21:15

For me, ive learned its best to ONLY have key bindings for Toggle Flaps, and Flaps Down. I dont use Flaps Up key bindings, too many keys to press during a fight.

Instructions unclear, blew myself up base bombing in my f4s

man, you make amazing videos and i noticed that after literally every single "guide" video of yours i watched made me instantly better at flying and dogfighting, thought i need to know: how do you actually "know" a plane? other from exeperience of flying in one, how do you check what a plane is exactly good at and what is it bad at,? do you look at weight and engine power, or maybe something else?

Dang. I think I’ve experienced that limited boost in maneuverability while using combat flaps but never really acknowledged that they were also such a detriment to my energy longer term. Hopefully I can put this into practice👍🏻. Mainly CAS player so cut me some slack🤣.

One of the spitfires only has landing and take off flaps, sometimes when I’m going 300kmh to 400kmh while being chased. I can deploy landing flaps for a second while doing a heavy upward turn and within one to two seconds I’m looking strait down lost 50 to 100kmh but now directly behind the enemy aircraft. I don’t use this all the time as it makes me into a huge disadvantage if fighting multiple people.

3:49 the formula is v = ωr. velocity = angular velocity (turnrate) multiplied by radius

I've bound my flaps to the mousewheel 😂 (roll forward = down; roll backward = up) I just didn't know what to bind on it at all, so I thought this might be a cool idea and now I'm used to it.

*Her vargheena hang like sleeve of wizard. She had too much flaps*

flaps boost lift at the cost of speed. for real life flying i dont use them much, only for pattern and final approach. they work as somewhat as an airbrake. one plane i fly has up to 40° of flaps and its like pulling a handbrake, even with engine power it just wants to loose all its speed.

It's always iffy, but there have been numerous occasions I've successfully landed a plain for repair at the airport using flaps to maneuver, when my elevators are shot to hell.

Great Video. I did miss a little bit the fact, that the first half of the flaps increase lift while not increasing drag too much while the second half of the flaps increase the lift a lot while disproportionally more increasing the drag. I think this is true. Of course depends on the plane, but generally speaking.

Thanks de-fyne :)

before they nerfed flaps about 10 years ago l just used takeoff flaps most of the time and it honestly worked quite well

I found this entertaining

7:17 - I this case I would use low yoyo maneuver to get myself to lead pursuit and shoot.

25 minutes about flaps, and for free dollars. This is content on another level.

I use flaps on an extremely contextual basis - say, to turn more sharply - but after my turn I'm turning the flaps right back off. Also, in the showing of the control settings early in this video, he is totally correct that you need to turn off the autopilot in regard to flaps control. You do NOT want the autopilot controlling that at all. Just make sure to remember to turn on your landing flaps when you land, since now you're in control of this. And, indeed, this is exactly why you need to turn off the autopilot control of flaps - because in those scenarios where you are landing an airport for your team (arcade mode) you do NOT want your landing flaps to be on, you just want your gear to be down, and you want to do a "touch and go" tactic - you want to stay fast (but not too fast or you'll lose your gear and might crash), because as soon as the timer shows you've touched that airport long enough to claim it, you immediately maneuver away from the airport and retract your gear. This is why you need to keep your speed up, no flaps. (If your autopilot is controlling your flaps, then it will turn on flaps as soon as you put your gear down, which will not only slow you down, but also make it much more difficult to conduct a "touch and go" maneuver, because it makes it almost impossible to touch the runway at high speed.)

"You're using flaps wrong." >demonstrates by using Yaks, with generous acceleration and ease of handling near stall speeds

Great video but as a german main and a P51 enjoyer i don't need flap play since all i can do is boom zoom and to be fair yak 3 don't event need to toggle flap to handle again most target which is german