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Flatwounds on a Bass VI - EP302 

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In this episode I swaped the strings on my Bass VI fro some Labella Flatwounds, and compared both tones.
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@davidg.785
@davidg.785 2 месяца назад
I use flats on all my basses, but the biggest reason I use them on the VI is that they are the best for filling the traditional bass role. When I need to use the VI as a straight up bass, I will run it through a bass amp, I will turn off the bass cut, and use the neck and middle pickups together, plucking closer to the neck. I don’t always use the VI for the strict bass function, but flats best allow for that. They also sound great through a guitar amp. I use a Vox ac15 guitar amp, so the treble and mid of that amp sound great juxtaposed with the round sound of flatwound strings.
@bubblepipemedia3414
@bubblepipemedia3414 Год назад
Sonically I can't hear a huge difference, but the biggest change imho is less fret noise movement. Huge improvement.
@BuddaGuedes
@BuddaGuedes Год назад
There’s less sustain and less zing too. And the feel is also super different
@davidecheverrial5742
@davidecheverrial5742 Год назад
I'm just crazy, but I like fret noise 😂
@elliotvernon7971
@elliotvernon7971 Год назад
Have to say I preferred the round wounds - but thank you for your amazing efforts in this video, it will definitely allow Bass VI players to be able to choose what they will prefer in advance. When players are often swayed by the loudest (but not necessary correct) voices on internet discussion boards like The Gear Page, having a video is worth so much.
@BuddaGuedes
@BuddaGuedes Год назад
Thanks a lot
@GregGarner
@GregGarner Месяц назад
I much prefer the sound of the round wounds. If the purpose is to fulfill the role of a bass, get a bass! The VI’s twanginess and edge is what I love about it. I was thinking of trying flats to help with some fret buzz, but I’m glad I found this video. Staying with the rounds for sure!
@BuddaGuedes
@BuddaGuedes Месяц назад
Great that it helped
@michaelpaul2CMTB
@michaelpaul2CMTB 11 месяцев назад
I'm a Flatwound user mostly anymore and preferred the tone in this comparison.
@garnaalkak
@garnaalkak Год назад
That overdriven flatwound sound is quite unique and amazing! Like the sound of this bass with any strings...
@BuddaGuedes
@BuddaGuedes Год назад
Me too. Thanks
@jurgengosch3915
@jurgengosch3915 Год назад
Flatwounds for sure if you're playing it as a bass. If you're using it like a deeper-voiced guitar, roundwounds might be better.
@BuddaGuedes
@BuddaGuedes Год назад
I love it as a strange bass more than a guitar
@roughcutguitars
@roughcutguitars 7 месяцев назад
EXACTLY what I thought by the end.
@shanevanc
@shanevanc 2 месяца назад
Just use unwound 1st and 2nd. And don't try to sound like other people unless you're in a tribute band.
@RockStarOscarStern634
@RockStarOscarStern634 Год назад
Fender now makes 24-100 Gauge Strings for Bass VI.
@BuddaGuedes
@BuddaGuedes Год назад
Great
@allrequiredfields
@allrequiredfields 4 месяца назад
But not flatwound. There a a bunch of companies who make rounds for the VI.
@RockStarOscarStern634
@RockStarOscarStern634 4 месяца назад
@@allrequiredfields The Round Wounds have a lower tension & are gentler on the fretting hand
@jonathanhorne6503
@jonathanhorne6503 Год назад
I use flats on all but one of my basses. Older, deader the better
@BuddaGuedes
@BuddaGuedes Год назад
That’s right
@iceboxbass
@iceboxbass 3 месяца назад
with the comparison, it seems to come down to preference. What a musician prefers one string over another. You can dial in the same tone with either string, it’s a matter of taking the time of making the adjustments. For me, my preference is flatwound strings for many years. Once in a while I’ll try some new style of rounds that come out but I always end up going back to flats. I prefer the smooth feel and noise free of flats. Plus GHS flats has that smooth silky chocolate tone to them❤🥰 Fender used to make a 5 string flatwound set that was the BEST. They were very nicely flexible and had an amazing tone of their own. But for some years now they quit offering them in a 5 string set. They still offer the 4 string flat set though. But I’m a fiver only player. Thanks for your video! I’ve been giving thought to the Bass VI of buying one. Very unique instrument! Cheers!
@BuddaGuedes
@BuddaGuedes 3 месяца назад
The goats have a very distinct attack and sustain that I love
@ue4058
@ue4058 11 месяцев назад
I don't know which strings I preferred, but that was a really informative video. Thanks for sharing!
@BuddaGuedes
@BuddaGuedes 11 месяцев назад
Thanks a lot
@oldasrocks9121
@oldasrocks9121 Год назад
You lose sustain and jangle with the flats but gain that sonic woof when you drive the flats. Get 2!!
@BuddaGuedes
@BuddaGuedes Год назад
Eh! Eh! I’ll keep the flats
@rapeter3382
@rapeter3382 Год назад
I own the very same bass. when I bought it had round wounds one it and I struggled somewhat to get it to play w/o much buzz. eventualy i pulled the trigger and bought the very expensive flats but never looked back. as you pointed out, the feel is splendid and also i prefer the overdriven sound with flats. one thing to mention, I put the staytrem bridge on and lost the trem arm which also added to the playability. like your first riff big time!
@BuddaGuedes
@BuddaGuedes Год назад
Thanks for sharing
@tjhums5443
@tjhums5443 Год назад
Thank you for the demo. The flatwounds sound good but I’ll take the flexibility of the roundwounds on this particular instrument.
@BuddaGuedes
@BuddaGuedes Год назад
🤘🏻🤘🏻
@mortusdominus
@mortusdominus Год назад
Fender round 24-100 set. $15. You won't be disappointed.
@BuddaGuedes
@BuddaGuedes Год назад
Thanks a lot
@silentgd
@silentgd 7 месяцев назад
I switched to flats soon after I got mine and I've never regretted it (but then I prefer flats on all my basses)
@BuddaGuedes
@BuddaGuedes 7 месяцев назад
I love it on this one too
@rickharper3940
@rickharper3940 Год назад
the flats will sound even better after they're a little 'broke in'... about a month for me...
@BuddaGuedes
@BuddaGuedes Год назад
That’s right. It’s getting better all the time
@patrickpuzzo416
@patrickpuzzo416 4 месяца назад
Thank you!
@BuddaGuedes
@BuddaGuedes 4 месяца назад
You’re welcome
@homewithj1
@homewithj1 Год назад
I've done the exact same comparison with the same strings . Leballa strings are def deeper warm more bass like . I prefer them over the fender strings . You will have to set up the bass because of the added tension . I also install a jaguar mute on mine as well. Really fun instrument to experiment with.
@BuddaGuedes
@BuddaGuedes Год назад
The Jaguar mute is a great addition. Where did you get it
@homewithj1
@homewithj1 Год назад
@@BuddaGuedes I found it on ebay. Fender still makes them. You will have to drill a hole below the bridge to install it.
@BuddaGuedes
@BuddaGuedes Год назад
Thanks a lot
@BaritoneOneFive
@BaritoneOneFive Год назад
I dig the flats. Less klak klak and string noise.
@BuddaGuedes
@BuddaGuedes Год назад
The playability is super great
@steverolfeca
@steverolfeca 10 месяцев назад
My main concern with the Bass VI in the first place, is the narrow string spacing. Sure enough, the chords sounded sloppy with the flats, presumably because you were having trouble with fingering because of the thicker gauges.
@BuddaGuedes
@BuddaGuedes 10 месяцев назад
Maybe that’s the thing but it’s a very inspiring tool
@tauruschorus
@tauruschorus Год назад
I have had LaBella flats on my bass VI for 10 years and I just happened to purchase new rounds the other day online from a company called Stringjoy - interested to see how they feel. They are also $45 less 😮
@BuddaGuedes
@BuddaGuedes Год назад
That’s true
@jasonsterlace1369
@jasonsterlace1369 10 месяцев назад
Hey, followup? How do they feel? Are are the LaBella's the least expensive flats you know of for a VI?
@phlattgetit
@phlattgetit Год назад
This really highlights the similarity of tone between new flatwounds and old used roundwounds. In a mix with other instruments the difference would be so minimal. So you are left with how they feel under the fingers.
@BuddaGuedes
@BuddaGuedes Год назад
They feel great and that’s why I’m keeping the Flatwound strings
@phlattgetit
@phlattgetit Год назад
@@BuddaGuedes I agree, I started with flats 40 years ago and they always seemed bass like to me. Rounds are very much a guitar sound and feel.
@BuddaGuedes
@BuddaGuedes Год назад
Thanks a lot for your comment
@darwinsaye
@darwinsaye Год назад
When I got my most recent bass, I was weighing whether to put flats on it or try artificially aging the roundwounds it came with. I decided to try rubbing some hemp hand cream on the rounds, and was really surprised how effective that was. Instant aging.
@BuddaGuedes
@BuddaGuedes Год назад
That’s really a cool trick
@nathanmielke1977
@nathanmielke1977 Год назад
I preferred the round wound strings, but I think that was just because you were playing better with the rounds. I imagine your fingers were getting used to the different feel so you weren't as clean in your playing. Nice comparison though.
@BuddaGuedes
@BuddaGuedes Год назад
🙏🙏🙏
@timelwell7002
@timelwell7002 9 месяцев назад
I perfer the sound with the flat-wound strings. Thanks for an informative video..!
@BuddaGuedes
@BuddaGuedes 9 месяцев назад
Thanks. Me too
@gwEmbassy
@gwEmbassy 3 месяца назад
both sets sound very close, I slightly prefer the flat wound sound
@derekspring8462
@derekspring8462 Год назад
Good demo. Interesting to hear such a clear comparison. I prefer the round-wounds. The flat-wounds lose too much of the dynamics, like the sound is going through a limiter - the attack is feeble and the character of the notes stays the same for so long, to me it's uninteresting. I guess it depends on how much space there is in the mix and the style of music.
@BuddaGuedes
@BuddaGuedes Год назад
Thanks a lot for sharing
@riogrande163
@riogrande163 Год назад
The flats make it sound like an actual bass though, and not an ugly piano.
@BuddaGuedes
@BuddaGuedes Год назад
I love the feel of the flats and I’m keeping it. But I don’t think they are worth the money
@stevestonesongwriter
@stevestonesongwriter Год назад
Be interested to hear flats on higher register
@BuddaGuedes
@BuddaGuedes Год назад
Sounds marvelous
@guitarraeacontraband
@guitarraeacontraband Месяц назад
Budda Master, consegues usar a afinação de uma barítono nesse Bass VI, por exemplo em Si? E conseguir a mesma sonoridade e estabilidade de uma barítono, por exemplo de uma Danelectro? Abr e keep on rockin´
@BuddaGuedes
@BuddaGuedes Месяц назад
Boas Julho que sim mas deveras ter que fazer setup e talvez mudar o nut
@guitarraeacontraband
@guitarraeacontraband Месяц назад
Pois faz sentido, suponho que o Bass VI está mais orientado para fazer o trabalho de um baixo do que propriamente ser capaz de ambos. Ou seja, só há uma solução saudável, ter um de cada 😂😂😂
@trees3d
@trees3d 7 месяцев назад
back in the 60s a bass vi would come with flats from the factory
@BuddaGuedes
@BuddaGuedes 7 месяцев назад
That was my thought
@surfohio
@surfohio 7 месяцев назад
Nice! If I'm the only bassist in the band I'd use the flats. If I'm a bridge playing between the bass and rhythm guitars then I'm liking the stock Fenders.
@BuddaGuedes
@BuddaGuedes 7 месяцев назад
That’s a good approach
@hadscmb
@hadscmb Год назад
Budda, acho que preferia as cordas que tinhas antes. Já agora, quais eram? Não dei conta dessa informação.
@BuddaGuedes
@BuddaGuedes Год назад
Eram as originais
@shanevanc
@shanevanc 2 месяца назад
Round wound string noise is totally destructive
@BuddaGuedes
@BuddaGuedes 2 месяца назад
I don’t agree but I love the flat feel
@shanevanc
@shanevanc 2 месяца назад
@@BuddaGuedes the ledzep sung is dominated by string noise. It's louder than the bass line on my tablet while the flat wound line has no noise only notes.
@whodunitpros8555
@whodunitpros8555 Год назад
I liked these ... but ended up with Stringjoy Bass VI set.
@BuddaGuedes
@BuddaGuedes Год назад
I’ll look it up but I’m loving these strings
@markjohnson9485
@markjohnson9485 3 месяца назад
I like the flatwounds better.
@BuddaGuedes
@BuddaGuedes 3 месяца назад
Me too
@JesseJuup
@JesseJuup Год назад
Flatwounds for me.
@BuddaGuedes
@BuddaGuedes Год назад
Me Too
@joycerichardson1810
@joycerichardson1810 Год назад
Love the flats! I have to get a Bass VI!
@BuddaGuedes
@BuddaGuedes Год назад
It’s a great tool
@uhoh007
@uhoh007 Месяц назад
Don't these strings break in? That's what I read anyway.
@BuddaGuedes
@BuddaGuedes Месяц назад
They break in and get better with time
@rickharper3940
@rickharper3940 Год назад
but that flatwound click/pick cuts thru in a mix...
@BuddaGuedes
@BuddaGuedes Год назад
Yes it does
@rickharper3940
@rickharper3940 Год назад
@@BuddaGuedes I paid $52 for the labella 'deep talkin' bass' things. they sound great but are too firm...the luthier [a friend of mine, but not cheap] i had to hire for 2hours says there's an irreparable bow on the low side of the neck. wish i could post photos/videos. he's lowered the action and tried to fix the bow. nope. going back to amazon; sure wish i'd got it from sweetwater. out of the box and tuned up those are the worst round wound strings i ever played...it was about 1" high off the 12th fret. it's going back. but i gotta get the strings off, old ones back on. just luck. i'd hang it on the wall cos it's shiny, but ugly, imo. i wanted it for the sound. heavier than my U.S. '05 jazz bass. i recommend getting the FENDER 1962 bass VI pdf from the fender site. there is no real manual for Squire i've found. lots of differences. as one might imagine i'm kinda uptight about it.. no mo' cheapie fenders for me. thanx for info about jag bridge cover. wish me luck w/ return! regards.
@dorianford6227
@dorianford6227 10 месяцев назад
The Flatwounds technically sound “better”and “proper” especially with Overdrive and if you plan to play it solely like a bass. However the flatwounds kills it’s vibe and character. The buzz, and top end is part of its sound especially when you play chords. You can hear what I am talking about better if you play spaghetti western licks.
@BuddaGuedes
@BuddaGuedes 10 месяцев назад
Great
@roughcutguitars
@roughcutguitars 7 месяцев назад
SPOT ON assessment - and worth replying as much because I always wonder if it's just me. The hybrid character this is known for, at least as far as later Beatles recordings are concerned, depends on roundwounds. Flatwounds take it squarely to 'traditional' bass territory for guitarists who want the low-barrier entry (at the same time acknowledging Entwhistle turning RotoSound into a household name).
@ZARATUSTRA8511
@ZARATUSTRA8511 8 месяцев назад
I don't like flat wounds, with it sound the VI just like a Bass and that kills the magic and special sound of the Instrument.
@BuddaGuedes
@BuddaGuedes 8 месяцев назад
I love it
@PhilcoreTheLoud
@PhilcoreTheLoud Год назад
The flatwounds sound ... I wanted to say crisper?! But then after the second and third comparison they just sound a little... I don't really know?! I feel like they sound a little more attacky when struck lightly and a little more bass-y when struck more heavily. Hard to say man I think it depends on what you want to play with them. The palm muted stuff showed no real difference to my ears. I mean, there was SOME, but yeah, that's like the difference between new and older strings. Then again, as always, I am no guitarist ^^D
@BuddaGuedes
@BuddaGuedes Год назад
Thanks a lot my friend. Miss you
@davidprice9689
@davidprice9689 Год назад
The flat-wounds sound better if palm-muting but the round-wounds sound marginally better otherwise. I wonder if the string tension is the same - the better test would have been between LaBella round and flat-wound. I have had 2 of these guitars and I had a pack of Rotosound 'Jet Bass' round-wound strings (the reference was to Jet Harris who did several great-sounding recordings using one of these in 1962). Incidentally despite looking great, the Bass VI doesn't sound as good as a much more basic Danelectro (and the latter doesn't have that dreadful floating tremelo system or, as in the case of the original VIs, a horrible rubber pad mute!).
@BuddaGuedes
@BuddaGuedes Год назад
O actually love it! The flat have more tension but I love the feel
@stephanematis
@stephanematis Год назад
Round wounds felt better in sound.
@BuddaGuedes
@BuddaGuedes Год назад
🙏🙏
@boppin_bennie
@boppin_bennie Год назад
The comparison is flawed ! You should loop the flatwounds also so the two loops can be compared !
@BuddaGuedes
@BuddaGuedes Год назад
Really?!?
@markthespark6240
@markthespark6240 Год назад
Factory strings for sure!!
@BuddaGuedes
@BuddaGuedes Год назад
Thanks a lot
@Dang...
@Dang... 3 месяца назад
Sorry, but this video is useless. You can't tell anything when the tones are so obscured by gobs of effects or distortion.
@BuddaGuedes
@BuddaGuedes 3 месяца назад
Really!!?!! it was super useful to me. It’s usually why I do videos
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