Flawed Characters of Super Smash Bros... 

its funny because giga bowser in melee has super armor, just to an absurd degree

About the Type Weaknesses/Resistance for Pokemon Trainer in Brawl, not only it crippled Ivysaur a lot due to the abundance of Fire Moves, but in contrast to Charizard and Squirtle, outside of a Mirror match and Kirby copying moves, there are literally 0 Grass moves that could cripple Squirtle in the same way, There's only one Water move outside Squirtle.... and it doesn't even deal damage, so the same is true for Charizard, as well that makes Ivysaur's supposed resistance almost non-existent. So Type Weaknesses/Resistance literally fails to even work as an downside for Charizard and Squirtle and an Upside for Ivysaur due to Water and Grass moves being almost non-existent. Another thing is that Type Weaknesses/Resistance is only isolated to the Fire, Grass and Water triangle, none of the other Weaknesses/Resistance for each type are included (they don't even have resistance to their own type) For example, if all of the Weaknesses/Resistance were implemented, a match between the Pokemon Trainer and Pikachu, Ivysaur would resist all of Pikachu's electric moves while Charizard and Squirtle would be cripple by it since they're weak to them (Charizard has Flying as Second Type)

I actually duel main melee Roy and Marth depending on match ups and im actually super fast with both of them. Sheik is my secondary (fire emblem and zelda were my childhood so these characters are really close to my heart)

SO, I was a Trainer main in brawl. I spent over 3000 hours learning that character, and let me tell you. None of the flaws listed for Ivysaur was the real reason they were bad. Stamina sucked, but ivysaur could still slowly wrack up damage with safe tilts, and backair strings. And you could kill off of a good read. The fire weakness sucked, It made Ivy functionally lighter than he should have been, but landing a hit on him in the first place was a pain. Ivy's neutral game was very good actually. The problem was THAT RECOVERY. One mistake and you'd explode. Brawl has a LOVELY edgegrab mechanic where only one person could grab ledge at a time. If Ivysaur was off stage, and the opponent grabbed ledge. Ivy can't up B. He falls to his death. Falco grabbed you at 0%? Time to get chaingrabbed to the edge of the stage, dair'ed, and you're dead 100% of the time. ZSS landed one stun on you? Time to get comboed off stage and die. Metaknight landed a single hit on you? Time to get comboed offstage and die. (or you get perma juggled by upairs lul) Tried to edgeguard and missed? The enemy grabs ledge before you and you die. Ivysaur had the worst recovery in smash bros history. You had to play SO careful with him because any mistake could be death. Even at 0%. He makes little mac's recovery look good. Playing Brawl Ivysuar for so long makes Ultimate Ivysuar feel like a cheat code.

Seeing Bowser in Smash 4 and Ultimate get the buffs MagnuM, CHAOTIC, and I were saying he needed back in '06 and '07 was unreal, and I would have absolutely loved it if he'd retained most of his moveset. Don't get me wrong; I love Smash 4 and Ultimate Bowser, but I wish he could have gotten the buffs he did without completely changing up his moveset, posture, and model size. I'd have even been happy if he peaked at Melee Ganondorf tier levels if it meant I could have Melee and Brawl Bowser but actually decent.

Their flaws screams for fan made buffs.

From the "is this "" for you?" series you've really stepped up the editing and writing all around, hope you continue to pop off as a creator!

I wish you brought up Ultimate Dedede because I think he has so many fundamental issues.

Rip melee bowser

Piranha Plant is literally my favorite character and I've never lost a match with him, love that strange guy

"any character can have flaws" BMK laughs in the background

Love your content! Thanks honest!

Long time fan here- I personally prefer your usual format over the Chaler-esque presentation; It suits your video content more.

brp makes such high quality so so soo0o fast!! Please dont burn yourself out! You deserve a watermelon!!

Bro f anyone hating on you being your self, Honest. I like the new style a lot, keep doing you man. I know this stuff isn't eazy to make.

This new approach is kinda cool, rly like this style cus it seems like im watching someones very dedicated presentation, very coooollll :D

And Banjo is an example of how to take a wacky game and make a borring character out of it

Love this Honest, yes!

Maybe it's subjective but I can't agree universal 3 frame jump squat was an outright good change in Ultimate (but Bowser's is definitely too long in Melee) (also understand it wasn't the focus point of the video)

Piranha Plant became the new joke character for Ultimate with Pichu being immensely buffed

I like ur videos, the editing is clean and the presentation is nice. It reminds me of Asumsaus, but I figured you probably heard that many times. But it is the highest of compliments lol. Although, I feel like I don’t need to see you to get the message. It doesn’t add anything imo. Also blocks the screen from what I’m supposed to see.

If Melee Roy had PM Roy's bair he'd be viable

If you're going to create a sequel for this video, you have to mention the regional differences in SSB64 and the buffs/nerfs they indirectly gave to certain fighters. NTSC-J Donkey Kong and PAL (Australia) Link are particularly egregious examples, with Donkey Kong at one point (this may still be in effect) having no winning matchups against the others.

2 bad characters are plants and they have poison

Leave it to Honest Content to keep dropping great vids on my lunch break 🙌

It's because in the subspace emissary you only start with Squirtle and you have to get Charizard and ivysaur later😊

The green screen effect was pretty annoying.

Melee Roy is my main. I find him supremely satisfying to play.

Ganon being so fucking bad for 4 games in a row (Brawl-3DS-WiiU-Ultimate) is one of the reasons I stopped playing. I really want to play as him but the insane power creep, specially in Ultimate's FP2 just made me stop caring because I finally accepted he's bad on purpose. Other heavies got the fixes they needed, like you pointed out with Bowser, but Ganon keeps being dogwater on purpose. I've been playing Smash since 64, and competitive since the Melee days. Ultimate made it clear that I'm no longer part of the intended audience. I'm suppossed to be cheering for Sora or some other playstation rep, idk. But I just want Ganon to be good, man.

I love this new style lets go!

3:00 "It literally makes you harder to approach"... What?????????

I hate piranha plant

Unrelated to the video, but an idea for future content I think would be great is redoing your “Meet the Smash Brother” series, as rollback will be coming out soon(ish) and many people are gonna look at the game for the first time. So it would get clicks and help ppl get into the game too This video was good too! Like the content still, just weird seeing you in the videos now (not bad or anything, just different is all if that makes sense)

Budget AsumSaus but in a good way

pm bowser goated set edit: also as a melee gannon main nintendo is just protectin yall

Who would be considered a good "Jack of all trades" in Smash Bros?

Still, every character community tries to make the meta change...

Actually, Smash is kindaa unique in that its a lot more punishing on big bodies than traditional fighters. Let me explain. In traditional fighters, big body characters can often times come with super armor, big moves, big health, and are even harder to combo and juggle cuz they jit the ground faster. Unlike smash where the weight enables for chaingrabs, in traditional fighters it often combos need to be cut short cuz traditional fighters are more about wobbling opponents in the air. Think of trad fighters like they have multiple falcons and they all like floaty characters. There are many great big body characters in other fighters due to the reasons i stated above. Look at MVC2's Sentinel, SF4's Sagat & Zangief, Bloody Roar Extreme's Stun, there's a big list of good big body characters. Smash is just very different in that regard.

This is the worst Plant take of all time, what the hell are you waffling on about?

Roy doesn’t have the hilt mechanic in Melee?

I’m surprised inkling isn’t here when her design is trash central.

People think Piranha is low tier? He’s literally top 6 idk what people are talking about 😂

no mention of SSBU Rosalina...smh

why do i always end up picking these characters?

Piranha Palnt is that bad he is my main and he is op

YOU AHOULD TALKA BOUT SOME PM STUFF!!!

Thank god Mac is bad

I know nobody cares but there's an editing error at 6:40 lol

With all due respect, the green screen segments aren't doing it for me. I have a hard time focusing on your voice and what you're saying when all I see is you awkwardly repeating the same repetitive hand motions over and over. I think it may help for it not to be full body and for yourself to be intermittent as opposed to so oppressively present.

Hey, dont get me wrong, i think youre doing great with your videos, but i think taking an approach like AsumSaus where its just you talking would be better. It feels like im watching a professors presentation

Melee Roy is not my boy

There’s no real terrible character in ultimate. The only one that’s super bad imo is isabel since her grab will never work on anyone who is good

I’ve noticed that there’s a common misconception that if a character is bad, they must be flawed or been done dirty. A good example of this is melee Zelda. She was meant to be a strong character that you pull out after using sheik to rack up damage. That gimmick was flawed and Sheik did everything Zelda was meant to and more. Ultimate Little Mac is different. Yeah he’s bad, but he wasn’t built to be a good character, he has his gimmick of being really good on the ground and worthless in the air. That’s not poor game design, that’s how he was meant to be. He isn’t flawed, he’s just doing his own thing. I often hear people complain about characters like him and how they should be fixed and made better, but bad characters don’t need to be good. If it isn’t them, it’s a different character at the bottom.

Please stop overlaying yourself on the video and moving all around while flailing your arms, it distracts from what the video is actually about