Heavyweights in Super Smash Bros: The Good, Bad and How To Fix Them 

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You know. Kid Icarus Uprising involves the Power system providing options instead of having something like Skyscraper Club be able to use (Running) Speed+ to passively run even as fast as base First Blade. Lightweight simply doubles mobility speed for duration, Super Speed triples it for a significantly shorter duration, and Jump Glide (or any Jump Power, really, but Jump Glide is the most synergetic with Skyscraper Club IMO) works off of the momentum at the time of the activation. If you ever see Skyscraper Club move faster than any weapon type can at base including Brawler Claws, now you know why. And this is keeping in mind that Clubs also have bad attack speed across the board in addition to lacking momentum on Dash Attacks, and Skyscraper Club is also not known for effective range against anybody capable of this novel concept called dodging. Would you be playing against PM DKs? MAYBE. The thing is, Powers are available to both sides to begin with. I was using a sort of experimental mage Power loadout on ChromeNoir's recent stream and it didn't include Super Speed, to my detriment at given times. OTOH, the mage Power loadout did have better semi-passive pressure at mid range than what I usually go with, which is basically to wall and abruptly tag people. Meanwhile, the other side has their own Powers to work with. For example, even if Reflect Barrier can be outmaneuvered, it still proves to be useful and certainly has discouraged me from just using the incredibly useful Getup Forward Shot at times. The end result is that the junk for speed stats is STILL going to be around to be a critical weakness, rather than outright removed, just that capitalizing upon as much is not going to be so brain-dead if the person dealing with that mess knows how to work with what they have and how to overcome mobile snipers in particular.

@@ZachHonest Excellent video. Sorry to ask the same question but, do you know the music from the previous video when you were talking about Lucario?

Skill issue

still suffering prime thunderz ptsd?

Bowser in ult isn’t a bad character and I don’t think he’s that bad to play against

Incineroar is probably one of smash ultimates most beloved characters and he’s a high mid tier character and perfectly viable. Also ultimate snake is pretty healthy

I just played him for the first time a few days ago and his ko's are just absolutely free. And his projectile is so very good

I don’t count Kazuya as a heavy. He is a heavy in weight only, and his design/viability wouldn’t really change much if he weighed as much as, say, Samus or Yoshi. His hurtbox isn’t that big, he’s pretty fast because of crouchdashes, he has an amazing recovery. He’s a combo character like Falco or Wario.

@@lukemagnotta7338 That's the problem! It's an example of trying *too* hard to make a heavyweight strong enough.

He is still close to last in 4

he is also an unviable mid tier in meele

His moveset is absolute balls.

After what Nairo did to Light's Fox while playing Ganon, and how Bloodynite plays Ganondorf, I think it just takes the right players to make somebody like Ganon truly shine.

While this is kinda true I think at a causal level kazyuza is just non functional because of his speed and also not really fun because you can’t do have of his moves.

@@paulakroy2635nah he has a full stage neutral b, three strong smash attacks and a kill throw at high percents

First I’d say, always buff over nerf, if it’s possible. Secondly, I think if it comes down to it, it’s better to have a neutral or weak character in low skill matches but be strong competitively, over the opposite. Plus if they want to fix Ganon and make him appealing to the average person, actually make him canonically accurate

imagine not being able to edgeguard a ganon in 2024

He is fast?

I agree with a lot of these things but I will say K. Rool is better then most people give him credit to. He actually has some good MUs against top, high and mid tier characters. He does well against Cloud, Peach, Samus and other certain characters

Yeah I hate how some of his traits become negatives once you get to a certain skill level. Opponents who are skilled enough can easily abuse his crown and belly armour. I don't think removing the HP on his belly and the lagginess of picking up his crown would make him oppressive in casual play, but it would work wonders in competitive play.

@@mandalorianhunter1>k rool does well against peach Huh

@@numbers4092 yes he does

@@mandalorianhunter1 how

Honestly I was offended lmao

Literally Gordo is such a bad move, Waddle Dee like the kind in Smash remix would be an improvement.

And his Brawl back air

@mandalorianhunter1 HDR gave him his PM backair and recently his Brawl D Tilt :^)

@@luxuryhotline9557 I'm not interested in HDR but I will check it out

@@mandalorianhunter1I miss his brawl bair

In my head, an issue heavies tend to have is that it doesn't matter how strong they can hit or how much hp they have if they can't actually get hits in and get combo'd constantly. Shouldn't they be harder to get combo'd so easily? Less hitstun or something?

@@Appletank8 I guess armour is a way to solve that, but not many superheavies actually utilise it much.

What do you mean by Byleth attributes?

​@@k-leb4671Probably speed, weight, etc., if I had to guess

Almost once per match. Samus here.

@@frankjoz2803 How many times have you seen KRool's armor break without playing a broken character ?

How many times have you seen someone actually play K Rool in tourney?

@@amadeus.7436 VOD or cap

@@BlackKnightsCommander A lot. online

Definitely! I was thinking about talking about different character archetypes in the future

Thank you, thats what I try to do!

He wasn't even in 64, so he's always sucked.

My personal thought is that heavies being survivable doesn't really help if it just makes them combo food. ...So what if you reduce the hitstun they are in so they can break out of combos more easily?

Fox is a lightweight in Melee and every future Smash game. He just has a fast fall speed that makes him more susceptible to combos.

Since when did weight determine fall speed in Melee or any Smash game?

You can, but you should instead look for project +

@@lagaffe91 does project plus work on dolphin?