Fleet Foxes - Helplessness Blues 

Imperfections make things perfect, I've heard this so many times and I love it, it makes it human and not like a robot performing soulless lyrics. (burials untrue is another example.)

If you listen to twenty one pilots, one of it's song 'lane boy' has a line - don't trust a perfect person, don't trust a song that's flawless

That must be what happened in "An Argument" 'cause most of that is a big experimental jazz mistake. Shame too 'cause I really like the first half, "The Shrine" and I wish it lead into something amazing after such a nice buildup.

@@Brendan-Black lmao, glad someone agrees. its ok to like an artist but admit some ideas just aren't good

@@Brendan-Black An argument isn't meant to be pretty to listen to though... it's meant to be chaotic and disjointed as the strings at the end of The Shrine would suggest. The serene Blue Spotted Tail following shortly after as a contrast to the jumbled mess that supersedes it was a conscious choice and it works within reason. Not everything that's meant to be messy and freeflowing has to be visually aesthetic or pleasing to the ears. Dissonance in itself can be a beautiful quality in music and An Argument was a complete mess that exists in the right place at the right time in the right record.

Sara Myers 💙

I'm sorry for your loss, not just yours actually, since it's a loss for the entire universe as well. But know that the weight of his life is something that will last forever brother

I'm deeply sorry for your loss. Hopefully music can help you cherish his memory. Have a peaceful day.

caracas, que triste Sara :( só de pensar na música sendo tocada em forma de despedida me deu vontade de chorar :,(

Rip for your friend. Sending love from Australia. Honestly this comment made me cry I've lost friends so I know how you feel.

Haha, right on man. Fleet Foxes often brings me to tears. I don't trust people who don't like Fleet Foxes, or feel this. They are vampires. It's a serious rule of mine... Lol

In just this line he brings the entire song’s theme together and brings it home in a way that is insanely personal yet universal. Perfect song writing.

❤

Things are more connected than we generally realize or give credit to.

Love what you said!

What you experienced was life. Real life. Now back to the machine with yeh.

That was cause and effect in motion. A subtle gift from the gods. It had everything to do with the song

OR DOES IT 🤔

I think its about purpose, but i interpret it as having a purpose that has value to you, yourself vs that of others. The lines of "I don't need to be kind to the armies of night that would do such injustice to you Or bow down and be grateful and say, "Sure, take all that you see" To the men who move only in dimly-lit halls and determine my future for me" as well as "I'll come back to you someday soon myself" speak to me about knowing what's important to yourself and following that path vs what others want or expect you to do.

I felt that.

trueeee

I know i'll get ripped to shreds for writing this, but i'll do it anyway. Always loved this song and have been a FF fan since I heard "he doesn't know why" almost 15 years ago. It took me 10 years after this song came out and hearing it again now, that I realize that for me, "serving something beyond me" meant becoming part of the Church I was raised in, but never really thought twice about until a few years ago. It's serving something beyond me, beyond in fact this plane of existence. The fantasy Robin speaks of - a beautiful spouse, some farmland and a store in a rustic, bucolic paradise he describes after the bridge still isn't enough, he's still hoping that someday "he'll be like the man on the screen" aka, the big guy, the hero, the man who has it all figured out. That day will never come - and even if it did, it still wouldn't be enough. Everything fades and wears out, the buildings, the structures, the temporary moments of glory - even the comfort or satisfaction of a life in rural simplicity - all of it is going to change and decay, just like the very bodies we inhabit. We have to build toward what will never fade, and what will never be corrupted. "Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal; but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also."

Yes is my only take on your comment, nailed it.

Sounds like it was a fleeting visit for that fox

It definitely is.. it’s beautiful

Same, Ms. Charlotte. It cuts deep and fills one with hope, simultaneously. In a way that only wonderful music can.

then i am all that i need/arroyo seco/thumbprint scar came along lmao

@@TheFilmsKaper that whole album, whew. Can't wait to see what's coming next

@@danielsan2349 and now we have Shore, an entire generation is truly lucky to grow up with this discography and it’s so awesome to have watched it unfold

I couldn’t pick a favorite personally.

I trust you'll find your peace! This comment was beautiful and moved me.

Part of it is yearning but the more important part is creating it for yourself and not waiting for it to come along or be handed to you in clear terms. That’s why the last line hits so hard cause fantasy is fantasy but reality takes sacrifice

Your comment made me tear up

@@user-iv1qq3vb9j aw !! ❤️❤️❤️

I have the same color hair, a drab brown, but in the sun it shines a golden reddish color, we are lucky. 😊

Brown hair is gorgeous!

You need to listen to the song Sister Golden Hair by America. Same type of song too.

10 years since your comment. Whenever I listen to this I think "this is the millennial generation summed up in a song"

​@@youbiscuit2146 for real. I'm not quite millennial myself, but the concept bleeds over even today. No mentors, no guidance, no tradition. Supposedly this makes a perfect playground, but everyone just froze up in various states of arrested development. There is no game to play when nobody makes any rules, and we are far less equipped now to make up some ourselves.

Just quit the office job to start working on a farm. Far less income, but far more meaning I hope

Nigel Stefani nicely put, couldn't agree more 😊

i love this comment - it's exactly it. thank you.

Although this sounds cringey, it's the best description for this song.

What does you being a gifted kid have to do with anything

@@Headytopper125 the first verse of the song sums it up pretty well but when you get pulled into the GT program there’s this idea that you’re special, you’re super smart, etc etc - but at some point the special school programs and shit ends and you realize you’re just like everybody else, you’re not really special, only you never learned how to cope with regular day to day bs like all the other kids because your schooling was tailored to always be engaging for you specifically. I had so much fun in that program as a kid but I NEVER had to learn how to study and persevere in subjects that were challenging for me, and I crashed and burned when I hit the first class I couldn’t just coast through. Now I’m an adult who was “raised up believing I was somehow unique” but I’d rather be that functioning cog they mention.

Just try to be a functioning cog in some great machinery serving something beyond you as opposed to something beneath you, lil homie.

try Joshua citarellas project and participating in it

@@callielayneherring5888 not to say it's better one way or the other, but you wouldn't have learned how to study either way. In regular classes you'd be bored out of your mind or antsy, trying to get the lesson moving. In the gifted classes, it's good until they change gifted from advanced, interesting stuff outside a regular curriculum, to making "gifted" shorthand for extra work. When gifted becomes extra work, that's when burnout happens. It's not interesting or relevant, its just more papers and quizzes.

Man ain’t this the unmitigated truth.

*Capitalism

waymondo1955 beautifully put

Try to live today

nicest yt comments section of all-time right here.

Fleet foxes community

I’m at the same point, man. Not motivated to do anything and pessimistic. You just gotta get out there and open yourself up to all the wonders life has to offer and be appreciative of everything you have. It’ll get better, trust me.

I was like that a couple of years ago, I had no hope for anything.. It still sucks but I'm in a better place mentally. I just to tell you it'll be better, you'll be fine. Sending prayers 💜

hey buddy please don't sweat the small things . Its alright to "Not know." one day at a time

Enjoy the times you're bumming it bro. You're where you need to be. One day when you have purpose, and responsibilities, and people depending on you, you will look back on bumming like it was the best.

be gentle to yourself.. sometimes its ok to just waste time and not be productive...

Same lmao two amazing albums/bands

Same!!!!!

Honestly same.

I LOOOOOVE YOUUUU JEEESUSSSS CHRRRRRIIIIIST

SEMEN STAINS THE MOUNTAIN TOPS

Your geometry teacher has excellent taste haha.

Ho yeah i came here to say somethin' like this. On Simon & garfunkel duet.

Vocal harmonies most definitely are highly reminiscent of Simon at his best.

I'm just discovering this band, and listening to some of their songs, but this song really sounds like Simon and Garfunkel. Even their pronunciation or enunciation.

I know it's a bit late, but if you do end up seeing this reply, you should also check out Holocene by Bon Iver, good stuff

That's sad.

@@madisonc1588 This and Holocene are probably my two favourite songs right now, I can't even explain how happy seeing this comment made me

It changes from 4/4 time to 6/8 time there!

Nailed it, well written.

Well beyond youth, from a different view of having gone through, best to tell you that turning your back on the screen will give you a more clear vision of what future you can move towards. It, the world - us and everything else - ain't gonna get better so make something new. You'll survive. And, one day, you'll look back with happiness.

Yes now that I realized it does, The great Ron Paul when he left congress a few years ago "We don't have capitalism and we don't have free markets now". Fuck you all the stupid assholes in Washington that have fucked up this country, both the corporate bought republicans and controlled by machines democrats you are a disgrace to the founding fathers and the traditional classical liberal values they founded this country on and the wars where we once fought against tyrants like you. I'm only 16 and I was only a few months old when 9-11 happened and people my against having been living in a country that has gone against its founding values and has turned into even more of a corporate, fascist, and machine run country, we grown up seeing wars were brave men and women don't die for this country but instead die for some oil or military industrial company. Now the alt right has began turning kids my age into neo nazi scumbags and Sjw's have been doing the same but instead turning them into Stalinist like Dumbasses. This country has now elected a lunatic to be president. Soon the political climate will be like just before the Nazi's got elected in Germany, it will be divided between a bunch of fascists and communists who are all a bunch of disgusting humans who don't care for human rights and civil liberties. Sadly people around my age are wasting their lives on technology too much. FUCK ALL YOU TYRANTS IN WASHINGTON WHO KEEP FUCKING UP THIS COUNTRY, EITHER IF YOU ARE REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRAT YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO THIS COUNTRY AND DESERVE TO BE EXECUTED FOR FOR YOUR EVILNESS AND DISREGARDED FOR THE CONSTITUTION AND DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE WHICH SHOULD ALL BE SHOVED UP YOUR ASS AND FACE. FUCK YOU ALL AND BURN IN HELL (Jesus would be disappointed with all the fake "Christians" in the republican party) !!! YOU ARE THE REAL TERRORISTS!!!

This things are true, and painful. you should try finding ways to make a change for the best. we must have hope Good Luck :)

Seriously? What we have now is absolutely purely the unadulterated consequences of capitalism. Capitalism will always lead to tyranny because it encourages scarcity and elitism ("I worked harder than you so I deserve more" - how do you quantify hard work? Did a Wall Street Banker really work harder than your high school janitor? Did they physically exert more calories? Or were they just born into a good circumstance and exploitative?)

Faux Im going through the whole top 10

Yep, I bought the album when it came out so this song and and album do define this decade just gone for me

I might be biased for not have heard too many songs like this before, but this song does really speak. I think it belongs in the 2nd place spot.

Eternal Branches its got great meaning but sonically its not my kinda thing

had to give the song a second listen after he placed it on the list. heard it back in college.

Ian N. nice pfp

I don't like the part after 5:04 honestly

@@shiningnightmare5616 worst part ever!! ;;-;;

loloollol

Focus on being rich in the heart and not the bank account. You will live happier overall even when poor, you will be rich in the heart. look at how many famous people that have it all, or so we think they have it all, commit suicide. Be unique, simple, humble and generous then everything will fall in place.

Sarah Cander damn Americans whining about the easiest education system in the entire world. Imagine not succeeding in USA.

Life sucks. Life is beautiful.

Sidhant Sood Imagine insulting a teenage girl in order to feel better ab yourself😱

@@sidhantsood5373 Her feelings are valid. You don't need to belittle people or their experiences to validate how difficult or treacherous yours was. People like you need to listen to this song, learn, and empathize with others. Your struggles may be more or less severe than hers, but by bringing hers down you are allowing others to do the same to you. I'm assuming you wouldn't care though since you're such an "academic intellect" but lack the emotional intellect to respect and empathize with people. Without that you are nothing my friend, learn to love. The world has too much hate... don't add to it. From a "Whiny American" who has experienced the academic system of 6 different countries and still "whines" at how difficult it can be. P.S. Fuck off :)

Beautifully said!

Amen to that!

😂

lmaooooo

Yeah they used to play fleet foxes occasionally, in between playing Material Girl and Landslide hundreds of times in the same day.

Keepin it on the shelf 🤙🏻

Ha, I feel ya.

Shrek Fanboy I mean fleet foxes is a very popular band, they don’t need his help that much

bruh he really be blowing these bands up

fleet foxes does already have a steady fanbase, but i will admit i finally felt like checking this out once Fantano emphasized how great this was. can’t believe it took me that long.

Good Lord y'all are ignorant. You DO realize this album has a Grammy nom, right? Do the fantano fans really think this is an undiscovered gem??

Nathan Aaron no I’ve known about the fleet foxes for a while they just haven’t been a priority to listen to until Fantano really sold how good this thing apparently is. i have a lot of music to catch up on listening to, i only started TRULY listening to music like last year so my bad for slacking. i try to stay away from being only Fantano-core too, he helps me find music but i have other ways too and i don’t freak out over him.

Sweet. If I had an orchard, I'd sing and trim my apple trees and work up a sweat, then go swimming at the river, then there'd be this party and Robin would be back in Seattle and he'd sing...and we'd all sing along.

i would grow a lot of ganj but the rest would be very similar friend.

Kieran Gilpatrick I do every summer brother

Luv you for writing that Kieran. So true!

very good my dudes

we've been together all along, people just need to sit down and realize that, just as one would to enjoy this beautiful piece of music then they'll be ready to see it for themselves, that they lied to us all along. Even now there's forces working in the shadows trying to separate us, i just wish we could unite against them, but we're still blind.

I also think about that. But I'm sure we who love the same song will also have songs we hate with an opposite common ground. No?

I agree

Don't be so downbeat. You will meet people who share your music tastes, eventually.

Bruh hmu anytime

FACT

"mid-youth crisis" look modernity is to blame.

Going through my mid youth crisis rn. Gonna turn 18 in a few months.

@@suhani551 same my birthday is next month and I don't know what the fuck I'm doing with my life ngl

Sim eles são talentosíssimos, essa música me descreve demais: sempre tive essa sensação de não saber meu propósito(quesito carreira), e agora na faculdade ainda me deparo com essas questões de: será que to no caminho certo. Tenho uma ânsia de tá exercendo alguma vocação alinhada comigo, mas infelizmente não sei qual é.

E são belos Lívia! Já tiveste oportunidade de os ver ao vivo?

Simmm ❤️

Best folk record of this decade so far

+mschmidler their eponymous album is better

+spencer me I think it's way less nuanced, less "difficult" to listen to, more upbeat. I still can listen to HB without being bored and for me that is a sign of a great album. But tastes do differ :)

i like both, but the eponymous album had more good songs. white winter hymnal, tiger mountain peasant song, ragged wood and blue ridge mountains are all better songs than anything on helplessness blues, imo

And even still in 2018!

I think "Sun, it Rises" is in all honesty.

❤ amen.

Yes! They also remind me of a lot of early country/Appalachian folk/bluegrass music, they will go down as legends decades from now I'm sure. Also They are back now!

Oh man! Us and Them definitely gives me the same feeling of helplessness!