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Flesh and Blood is like Monster Hunter 

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The topic of whether Flesh and Blood struggles with casual players is something that is brought up a lot. Now while this isn't something that's even fully proven, in this video, I'm going to assume it is, and explain why this isn't an issue. And to support this, I'm looking to my favourite video game series: Monster Hunter.
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@Sloopdoop
@Sloopdoop 5 месяцев назад
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@Klubu2015
@Klubu2015 5 месяцев назад
Hey, wanted to ask are you going to make a blitz build guide again for the new Heavy Hitters precons?
@Sloopdoop
@Sloopdoop 5 месяцев назад
@@Klubu2015 yep, got the Kassai budget video filmed and hopefully will be out in a few days, with a couple others soon after. I wanted to wait for prices to settle a bit, but also got put behind a whole week due to my laptop needing repairs 👍
@ConnorMonkey
@ConnorMonkey 5 месяцев назад
As a Japanese player, the fanbase here is super dedicated despite not having official translations
@workdayslacker
@workdayslacker 5 месяцев назад
Coming soon!
@B1bombermadness
@B1bombermadness 5 месяцев назад
The Japanese people are hard-core indeed!
@casediedwell5094
@casediedwell5094 5 месяцев назад
Soon(tm)! And MAMY of us are gonna be looking to Buy/Trade for JP Cards! Muh Katsu Deck gonna look hype af with JP rf's in it!
@Sloopdoop
@Sloopdoop 5 месяцев назад
I'm aware that card games are huge in Japan, so it's VERY exciting that the game is going to be printed in Japanese very soon!
@DMArmada
@DMArmada 5 месяцев назад
So hyped for your future!
@Xzarus
@Xzarus 5 месяцев назад
As a fairly casual player, I buy a ton of product and want to help this game grow. I never shut up about how good this game is. I want to get better at the game but I know that it requires a lot of my time. The Monster Hunter comparison is accurate. And absolutely got me to click.
@Sloopdoop
@Sloopdoop 5 месяцев назад
I have felt the same attraction to FaB's depth as I did to MH, especially the older games. I love deep mechanics that give you hundreds, if not thousands, of hours of time to enjoy
@Barf_FaB
@Barf_FaB 5 месяцев назад
I appreciate the timer when you do your sponsored segment. It makes me feel like you respect my time. Knowing WHEN the ad is over also makes it more likely for me to watch it. Thank you for your respect.
@Sloopdoop
@Sloopdoop 5 месяцев назад
My No. 1 unbreakable rule when I make content is "Don't waste the audience's time." I value my time, as well as those that give theirs to me. I do want to earn money for my efforts, but at the very least I feel like I can put the ad after the intro (rather than right away), and put an indication for the length so people know when it will end or know how much to jump ahead. I appreciate that you feel respected, that is absolutely how you should feel 👍
@11guitarbro
@11guitarbro 5 месяцев назад
Flesh and blood & monster hunter players rise up ! 🫡
@Sloopdoop
@Sloopdoop 5 месяцев назад
I love both so much. I might even do a follow up video in the future going into more genuine comparisons between the games
@Lixeffect
@Lixeffect 5 месяцев назад
Great comparison to MHWorld being the stepping stone that got it into the mainstream. I think all players at LGS’s have a role to play in the new player experience - there definitely is a way to onboard people that isn’t just sit down, intimidate them 4 times and big swing them into the next dimension but it requires some leadership from the front in cultivating a community that understands how natural growth is meant to occur. I’m also glad my patron money is helping a starving family.
@Sloopdoop
@Sloopdoop 5 месяцев назад
There definitely is something to be said about us being better teachers for the game, rather than just pub stomping. And Mr. Ribbits and his kids thank you 🙏
@knallkasten5159
@knallkasten5159 5 месяцев назад
I really really hope we get more upf stuff as this makes people comfortable with the game itself while keeping the atmosphere at the most comfort level possible. Commander is often not much about the match itself but to construct stupid decks and just sit with your friends while having some food and drinks.
@hamsandwich6685
@hamsandwich6685 5 месяцев назад
I hope they fix the first turn refill problem for upf. In 4+ player games, the 1st, and 2nd player will all get guaranteed full turns. Depending on how attacks go, 3rd,4th and anyothers up until the last player may get shafted on a refill off the first turn and then forced to be on the back foot for the whole game potentially. I love upf, but this is a huge flaw to me, we play with a house rule: refill when the player in front of you refills on their first turn, until the entire first round of turns is done. This guarantees that every player at the table at least gets one full hand turn.
@Sloopdoop
@Sloopdoop 5 месяцев назад
I agree here. My favourite time with UPF is playing my Genis Givesyoucards deck. Giving people 7-8 card hands is amazing to watch
@BOSCOtheROCK
@BOSCOtheROCK 5 месяцев назад
I hate seeing threads on sites like Reddit where people claim the game is dead or dying, not for casuals, too expensive, etc. Not saying it is these things, but if it were these things, those people STILL wouldn’t be playing it and would find something else to complain about. We as the FaB community need to just wade through the bullshit and continue supporting, promoting, and trusting the process. LSS is doing so much despite the smaller team, and they really truly love the game and want it to succeed beyond just making money. As long as LSS continues to stay open with the community and are continuously working to grow and improve the game, then we should be happy and excited for the future. I love this game and of course I want so much more for it, but you can’t rush greatness and it’s pretty damn great already.
@Sloopdoop
@Sloopdoop 5 месяцев назад
One thing I have learned is that you KNOW a game is doing well when people complain about it. If people complain a game is too expensive/hard, what it means is that its desirable to play
@Whydidyouusemyname
@Whydidyouusemyname 5 месяцев назад
I play with a crew that enjoys precons and draft.
@retrofraction
@retrofraction 5 месяцев назад
I think that the best answer is draft. For casual players it has the lowest buy-in costs, nobody can pre-plan beyond what is in the pack they are handed, and if you catch it at launch not everyone has grinded it to death. I like it better than CC especially if your learning game mechanics because you will have more of an opportunity to play all the heroes and understand the game better overall. PvE PvB is nice, but the more I explore the design and mechanics I always wonder how they could implement it better than current board games.
@jojothaumium3718
@jojothaumium3718 5 месяцев назад
Me and my friends just had a discussion about this. Great video!
@Sloopdoop
@Sloopdoop 5 месяцев назад
That's awesome!
@whiskeygamesnerdstuff789
@whiskeygamesnerdstuff789 5 месяцев назад
I've found the Blitz decks that come out great for casual play, if everyone is playing them as is, out of the box.
@Sloopdoop
@Sloopdoop 5 месяцев назад
I agree. I have a bunch of unchanged Blitz decks
@whiskeygamesnerdstuff789
@whiskeygamesnerdstuff789 5 месяцев назад
Great way to introduce new people and have even had a group only play with them for fun@@Sloopdoop
@corruptedpixels8278
@corruptedpixels8278 5 месяцев назад
Sloopdoop always comes in clutch with the fab content
@Sloopdoop
@Sloopdoop 5 месяцев назад
Sorry it took so long, laptop died and was without a computer for a week 🙏
@myeviljewels6539
@myeviljewels6539 5 месяцев назад
Gosh darn Sloopy! Great stuff again!
@hendi710
@hendi710 5 месяцев назад
I also think flesh and blood has quite a lot of untapped potential. I as a fairly casual player have never attended any kind of competitive play, I just got tired of magic (even though I still play it quite extensivly) bought some Flesh and blood decks and loved the gameplay with its incredible high amount of interaction and its fairly unique classbased gameplay. I regularly play with my decks at the kitchen table with some friends an we usually have a blast. Also MTG, Pokemon and Yugi all had a lot more time to establish their playerbases, where as FaB is still kind of the new kid on the block. The legendstorystudio team are doing a great job in marketing and growing their game, so I expect to see continued growth for the forseable future, even though that growth will not be as crazy as the 6k % you've shown. You are also correct with your oppinions on pve, that's something that I as a casual player truly am looking forward too. (I personally hope for an app based Koop PvE narrative with continusly updated story. A bit like a DnD Campaign where Legend Story studios gives you the ability to play with your friend through various adventures with you fab decks. WOuld be sick, im excited to see what's coming and stooked when my heavy hitters display will arrive (I love Warriors wuhu) Cool Video Thx and love from Germany!
@davidjournot1741
@davidjournot1741 5 месяцев назад
As long as the business is profitable and has a dedicated and passionate community, there is no need to make the game mainstream. LSS is playing the long game.
@Sloopdoop
@Sloopdoop 5 месяцев назад
I actually am fine if it's never super mainstream. People often forget that when things go mainstream, the communities tend to go to complete shit
@BeWrong666
@BeWrong666 5 месяцев назад
I actually love the analogy of the comparisson :) makes me want to try it. And hopefully this collab may come true as well
@alexanderpopov3587
@alexanderpopov3587 5 месяцев назад
Have been collecting FaB , then stopped. Like the art and the game system, but not interested at all in playing competitively. Will actually start playing when there is an PvE way.
@Sloopdoop
@Sloopdoop 5 месяцев назад
Fair enough, my friend!
@playtimetcg
@playtimetcg 5 месяцев назад
At the beginning of the video I was thinking I want that shirt... then for the first time in history I was glad to see a sponsored advertisement. Also I love MH, been playing since the original.
@fleshandbloodbrothers
@fleshandbloodbrothers 5 месяцев назад
Monster Hunter World + IceBorne has been consuming me. My first Monster Hunter was on an emulator. It was very tough getting used to the "slow" swings, item uses, consumables, etc. Flesh and Blood is also very tough to "maximize" your available resources, life, armor, play patterns, tempo, match up, side boarding. I think Heavy Hitters sealed and blitz decks can grease the slide for new players. That set is very well designed for that environment.
@bryanbs99
@bryanbs99 5 месяцев назад
Love the parallel. here’s to hoping we get more more folks into the game 🎉
@miketroj3728
@miketroj3728 5 месяцев назад
As a super casual player for FAB and MTG, FAB gets my pick every time since I started playing about a year ago. It's getting to the point where I'm gearing up to sell my MTG collection. The closest LGS that sells and plays FAB is an hour away so I only play with my teen (6-7 blitz blitz between us) who really loves the game. I've picked up 3-4 boxes of random sets since starting to play compared to zero boxes of MTG, ever. I'll support them every step of the way as long as they don't turn into money hungry corporation. Hoping for PVE to knock it out of the park.
@simplegarak
@simplegarak 5 месяцев назад
Fun tidbit: Keyforge has released (now) 4 PVE products (though more for co-op multiplayer). Unmatched (a board game but more competitive than you might think) has also recently released a PVE set. Since I am interested in FAB casually, I would LOVE to see what they could do PVE style.
@amiasg9305
@amiasg9305 4 месяца назад
Good ad and even better point about this game. Got a new job and now i can finally start playing locals. I'm so excited.
@rsal137
@rsal137 5 месяцев назад
Waiting patiently for PvE as well; excited to block with United We Stand and give my party tokens
@nerdcoregaming6468
@nerdcoregaming6468 5 месяцев назад
Maybe there is something wrong with me, but losing in MH and FAB 110% hooked me.
@Sloopdoop
@Sloopdoop 5 месяцев назад
Same. Challenge is super attractive to me
@SigmaOrDoS
@SigmaOrDoS 5 месяцев назад
Mr Ribbits slaps, don't let him starve!
@transientfire8962
@transientfire8962 5 месяцев назад
This is a great comparison and video :)
@Sloopdoop
@Sloopdoop 5 месяцев назад
I'm super glad you thought so!
@ascrassin
@ascrassin 5 месяцев назад
Note that some japan YGO event did have some pve tables. Where you played against “boss deck”. Decks themed around anime villains that had a different set of rules than the standard decks. Buffed lp. Endlessly replenishing hand and deck. Can only play special cards, illegal otherwise. Card texts that force you to say the villain catchphrase.
@Sloopdoop
@Sloopdoop 5 месяцев назад
That does sound fun, but the issue is people want to play with their actual decks and cards, not special decks for the format
@ascrassin
@ascrassin 5 месяцев назад
@@Sloopdoop only the boss / npc has the special deck the rest use their normal deck
@icalculi
@icalculi 3 месяца назад
Lorcana is coming with it's new PVE and coop variant. It came out of nowhere while fab already promised pve ages ago
@danielalore8070
@danielalore8070 5 месяцев назад
Great video Sloop! I love this analogy. Especially since Monster Hunter is my favorite game series. I just hope LSS learns from this and doesn't try to add a swimming mechanic. (Even though I kind of miss it.😅)
@Sloopdoop
@Sloopdoop 5 месяцев назад
Brb making a tier list for how good of a swimmer each hero is
@Matt2Tokes
@Matt2Tokes 5 месяцев назад
i agree, needs more Mr.Ribbits
@manqk628
@manqk628 5 месяцев назад
if i play dromai, can i add draconic ninja cards. I am a new player and was wondering if it was possible
@Sloopdoop
@Sloopdoop 5 месяцев назад
You cannot, no, as you can only run class cards with that class. Dromai can run Draconic, Draconic Illusionist, Illusionist, and Generic cards
@manqk628
@manqk628 5 месяцев назад
@@Sloopdoop thank you so much
@timezero8409
@timezero8409 5 месяцев назад
I totally agree that PvE could be what makes the casual explode in popularity and could bring Commander players over to FaB. WoW TCG made it interesting, FaB has a chance to perfect it.
@Sloopdoop
@Sloopdoop 5 месяцев назад
I am fine if we have to wait awhile for it. I want them to knock it out of the park, not release a half-assed product
@timezero8409
@timezero8409 5 месяцев назад
@@Sloopdoop 100% agree!
@Dazron
@Dazron 5 месяцев назад
I dont think virtually anyone in the world is playing Flesh and Blood at a kitchen table...
@supermarioblacktiger
@supermarioblacktiger 5 месяцев назад
Casual Smasual. Let the newbies get smashed. Only the strong can survive! Back in my day we went 0-3 at every armory and we liked it!
@bigpablo673
@bigpablo673 3 месяца назад
You should tell the new players that if they don't want to get stomped they need to play the super expensive staples and play one of three viable strategies. You should also tell them how hard it is to find a game outside of talishar or cc pro tour
@adiennika24
@adiennika24 5 месяцев назад
Mhw got main stream bc of the platform. Removing the restriction of Nintendo helps alot. I hope PVE is as good as we need still.
@russellhanna7317
@russellhanna7317 5 месяцев назад
I think the block cards are a step in the right direction for onboarding new players to the mechanics. Some new non-fabled gems could be usefull too. Basically anything that when they are in their hand are screaming to the new player "you should block me!" or "use me for resources!" to help streamline how they should play their hand until they get the hang of things.
@Sloopdoop
@Sloopdoop 5 месяцев назад
Titanium Bauble is a card I really hope returns in new player products for this!
@russellhanna7317
@russellhanna7317 5 месяцев назад
@@Sloopdoop btw, what weapon do you main in MH? I have been playing since freedom unite, but fell in love with charge blade when 4 released!
@Sloopdoop
@Sloopdoop 5 месяцев назад
@@russellhanna7317 I've played a bunch and try to main a different one each game, but I always also go back to the Charge Blade. That weapon is just TOO good. I love me some Guard Points
@russellhanna7317
@russellhanna7317 5 месяцев назад
@@Sloopdoop I know right! It's ability to swiftly switch between defense and aggressive offense! I wonder if that's why I enjoy playing warrior in FAB so much
@SolaceOfSpace
@SolaceOfSpace 5 месяцев назад
After Legends of Runeterra PvP just shut down, I have doubled down on FAB, and hearing that I don't need to be to afraid to see this game die, makes me happy.
@Sloopdoop
@Sloopdoop 5 месяцев назад
The game is genuinely going strong and will be around for a long time
@Deingel12
@Deingel12 5 месяцев назад
Whether or not the reddit arguments hold bearing, they do reflect a reality: Some locals just don't lend themselves for the casual crowd, making them not want to continue playing the game, and it feeds back to the more competitive players, with no new blood, you're fighting against the same 4-5 players and you lose interest. I do hope FAB manages to get a more casual audience or maybe even makes losing in Armories fun (like more prizing perhaps?)
@Sloopdoop
@Sloopdoop 5 месяцев назад
I've heard they want to rework armouries a bit to incentivise people to show even if they don't win, so fingers crossed!
@cdaanmadetcg
@cdaanmadetcg 5 месяцев назад
The appealing thing about MH is the loot, if they could make the armory promos more obtainable rather than EA cards that no one will use they probably can get more players to attend
@Sloopdoop
@Sloopdoop 5 месяцев назад
Other games have a 2 card prize pack system, that have random cards from the set. Silver for entry, Gold for winning, and the gold have a guaranteed higher rarity pull. I'd love for FaB to adopt something like it
@jiffyb333
@jiffyb333 5 месяцев назад
Solid thesis! It was so exciting to see Monster Hunter jump into the mainstream, here's hoping that LSS is able to knock PvE out of the park. :)
@iopentcgs
@iopentcgs 5 месяцев назад
If Flesh and Blood was a video game this comparison would be more apt, but comparing a one time cost video game that you can play infinitely online from home and get the full experience vs a collectible trading card game that is primarily focused with in person competitive play just doesn't work at all. As you said, once PvE comes out, then this comparison makes more sense but right now it doesn't make sense to believe FAB can succeed like Monster Hunter did.
@Cellus5000
@Cellus5000 5 месяцев назад
This is a common conundrum. Competitive players don't want their games to be casual. I lost my first 5 in person games in FaB, and that told me, as a Competitive player, that skill expression was deeply ingrained in the game
@tableandlegs
@tableandlegs 5 месяцев назад
Love your videos and I love monster hunter
@GoblinReserve
@GoblinReserve 5 месяцев назад
How I miss your face😩. Hope to see you again one day sooner than later 😢.
@Sloopdoop
@Sloopdoop 5 месяцев назад
One day, my friend!
@dozrFAB
@dozrFAB 5 месяцев назад
based monster hunter fan video bro
@sud0gh0st
@sud0gh0st 4 месяца назад
Would be nice if i could find a LGS that supports it near me im wanting to participate in the events but my LGS has no interest
@LizaPlz
@LizaPlz 5 месяцев назад
i think you just really like monster hunter and fab lol
@Sloopdoop
@Sloopdoop 5 месяцев назад
Maybe a little
@xahjk
@xahjk 5 месяцев назад
This video is correct... 🎤⬇️
@lwhitty721
@lwhitty721 5 месяцев назад
Smart, very smart 👍😁
@Johnoamondo
@Johnoamondo 5 месяцев назад
You'll know when the game is in trouble when they release a online format to the game
@justnixoxd3313
@justnixoxd3313 5 месяцев назад
In Japan YGO has PvE
@chad0x
@chad0x 4 месяца назад
Commander wasn't a thing until 17 years after magic came out and is the only reason magic is still alive today. As FAB enters just its 5th year the people at LSS are working hard to make a casual format as good as it can possibly be. When FAB PvE comes out, It's gonna blow people's minds imo.
@in_the_wake
@in_the_wake 5 месяцев назад
More Mr. Ribbits or we riot
@arphaxadbasilona1871
@arphaxadbasilona1871 5 месяцев назад
It'a not really a good look when as a new player after getting past the honeymoon season of being a newbie in FaB you try to join a local armory with your cobbled together deck and got curbstomped by almost all the players running their Spring tunics, Enlightened Strikes, command and conquers etc. Then the realization sets in that you are just gonna be in it for the door prize of a single booster pack...then you look for a casual format or a multiplayer format like MTG's commander just to get away from the overcompetitive format and find out there's not much support for it or your LGS and other LGS in your country isn't into it much... And to add insult to injury, you found out all of the champs that made you want to play the game in the first place was relegated to LL status... I really want to keep playing this game...but it really is very hard to do so...
@Sloopdoop
@Sloopdoop 5 месяцев назад
Getting destroyed at locals if you have a cobbled together deck happens in every game, not just FaB
@jamesabbott6425
@jamesabbott6425 Месяц назад
I ordered a set of the new blitz decks as my first foray in to F&B yesterday. Today i saw this and if there is a title of a video that is gonna sell a game to me it's this. Thousands of hrs in to MH from gen 1 through to World so a card game that is worthy of that comparison is hopefully gonna be my new main TCG seeing as yugioh is now horrible to play and I have banned myself from ever getting in to magic.
@mirceadolineanu9715
@mirceadolineanu9715 5 месяцев назад
Don't forget that fab is the most expensive to play tcg right now. You can't even compete at a measly locals if you don't have a 300 $ deck. No amount of hours and practice will compensate for not owning the 100$+ legendary that is also hard to find due to the rarity and scarcity of reprints. Fab is not a game of skill. it is just a game of flexing your money spending capabilities, more so than any other tcg out there. It will eventually and inevitably die if it stays like this.
@Sloopdoop
@Sloopdoop 5 месяцев назад
I can tell you haven't played very much if you think money matters more than skill
@mirceadolineanu9715
@mirceadolineanu9715 5 месяцев назад
@Sloopdoop of course it does. What deck can you make under 200$ that can win against a 500$+ t1 deck that uses 3 cnc, a tunic, and all the legendary equipments and class staples it needs? My locals experience is getting crushed by expensive t1 decks 5 games a week (despite practicing a lot; I would actuallydo way better a few times when I rented a deck, which further proves the need for expensive cards) for 3 months before giving up and going back to yugioh, where with skill and a 30$ precon (+20$ worth of staple upgrades from the massive reprints) I can top locals...
@Cardboardgrinch
@Cardboardgrinch 5 месяцев назад
@jordanlego
@jordanlego 5 месяцев назад
I think the “low variance” comment is just not true. Some decks can draw like garbage one game and just high roll the next.
@StripedJacket
@StripedJacket 5 месяцев назад
I don’t care for PVE to be fair until I see it I wish there was a a more casual mode between Blitz and CC. Blitz feels like it ends too fast (it’s fun but too fast) and CC feels toooo competitive and slow.
@arielyosef7635
@arielyosef7635 5 месяцев назад
here here.. LSS pls take notice!! I'm looking for Blitz-esque mode without the fear of getting smashed by Rhinar/Kayo or Burned to crisp by Kano in one go.. Adding steamrolled by Mount Heroic Rosetta Express - no fun
@Dexef_
@Dexef_ 5 месяцев назад
This comparison ignores one crucial problem of TCGs as a whole, which is that a videogame is a single purchase (or maybe 2-3 more if we count DLCs). MH for 60 bucks gives you the whole experience, and if you want to dive deeper into the game and get better, and by better i don't only mean your skills but also your gear, it's all available to you. You just need to play the game and eventually that 60 dollar purchase will give you everything the game has to offer. In TCGs there's always this barrier of price that prevents people from getting into a game, there *are* products that are designed to help with that, like the round table and blitz decks. They are ok, if you plan on dropping the game right after (or only play with those products). If you want to introduce a new player, you give them a "cheap" deck, just to start out and see if they like the mechanic. Maybe they do, and now they find themselves with a barrier of price that throws them off, because either their finances doesn't allow them to burn money for cardboard or simply because they don't feel like spending said money The real crux of the problem here lies in progression and the suboptimal, unfair ground that TCG force players into. A MH Casual doesn't need to have a meta build all attack jewels + critical eye 40% affinity, instead they came up a their own build that they didn't even think of looking up online, they have progressed and they have created their whatever it is, suboptimal it may be to a veteran player, but it's something, though they are bad augments. The bad augments compared to TCGs are the cheap/bad cards, which even with them having negligible price tag associated, they do work, right? and no one would have problems spending for those. They provide an experience of the game. Now, the branching path. This casual finally managed to drop a rare jewel in MH, and he really likes the effects the jewel provides. He decides to farm for them. He can. No real barrier if not playing the game A TCG player finds a rare card out of luck, that card will help his deck get better. He is met with a barrier of price and can't progress. That feels terrible Casuals and hardcore players still like progression, they like feeling optimal, they don't want to have a subpar experience most of the time. It's why a lot of people in stardew valley check the wiki just to see what people like. Wasting a gift on someone that doesn't even like it? suboptimal, a waste, who would do it? That's what casual oriented products are, why would anyone buy a cheap product where you're gonna throw out most of the cards? And if you want to get better gear? You can't unless you pay up. No one really likes that The only way to balance this is unfortunately the emotional feeling that causes people to do most of their purchases. You don't only provide a product, but also an emotion and if the place you go to is particularly active in the scene, an experience with other human beings
@hamsandwich6685
@hamsandwich6685 5 месяцев назад
Things cost money. Get over it. Hahaha Okay, more seriously now, if you really want to make this comparison then consider scope and depth of each game. I dont play monster hunter but based on what you said, you buy a game and maybe 2 to 3 dlc and thats the whole game right there, the whole experience is waiting to be tapped into. With flesh and blood, the game is still going, expanding, adding more stuff continually, and that's a different vessel (tcg) than a video game, when it comes to delivering the goods. Flesh and blood gives installments in the form of new sets, which is hard to compare... I wouldn't say its like DLC because a set is sort of like a whole new game unto itself (limited play) within the existing game. I didn't play monster hunter, so i dont want to under sell it but i doubt it has the depth that flesh and blood has because of the way that flesh and blood is a continuous experience instead of a closed off game. It comes down to tournament play versus casual play. Further it comes to a point where the people that got the expensive good cards want to play with them. One can't fault them on that. Should they play the best stuff against new players? Probably not, but if there is prizing that will happen. Even if you have a tight game community, there will always be a couple of "win at all costs" type of people who dont care that you are only rocking ironrots while they have all legendary armor. They are taking the armory and prizes, thats their mission. The real barrier isnt price, because over time, if you enjoy the game, you can pull the stuff from packs, trade for it, or eventually buy the things. The real barrier is people's attitude and perspectives. Do you really need the hot newest top meta things right when they are hot and the new meta?? If yes, then you'll have to pay a premium for it. If you really cant afford it, and really want to play still, play commoner or upf and on a more parallel level to where you are at with the game and your own collection... This is also not a condemning sentance, because at anytime you can buy, crack packs, or trade into better cards to be able to take on other players more confidently. Gratification is more rewarding in this game of flesh and blood if you have patience and dont require it instantly. I don't know if this illustrates my point well
@Dexef_
@Dexef_ 5 месяцев назад
I'll try to be brief, this isn't me being butthurt over tcgs costing money, because if we want to be fair, its true that you do spend money but also can make a decent portion of it back if you were to sell. I was comparing how the analogy in this case doesn't work due to the inherit wall that TCGs have which makes it for a much, much bigger barrier of entry, and how a lack of inherent progression system that it's not tied down to monetization makes it for a poor experience for a new player. MTG/YGO etc.. don't exactly have this kind of problem because what helps overcome the barrier is emotional attachment to the IP and an ever present, already established, playerbase. FaB doesn't have this @@hamsandwich6685
@hamsandwich6685
@hamsandwich6685 5 месяцев назад
@@Dexef_ okay. I accept the first part of what you are saying, but disagree with where you end off. Its unfair to compare flesh and blood to yugioh /mtg or any other card game that has 15+ years under (30 for mtg) its belt already, while flesh and blood only has 5. Despite that, i think the attachment to Rathe and its lore is loved way more than you will hear about because yuoutube content creators are making gameplay and box cracking content more than lore/prediction content. It is my estimation that it will come and be the third pillar of content for flesh and blood on RU-vid that will evoke the wider potential players that aren't into net decking or oogling rare things that others open up. I myself, love this game and its lore, so much so that i cant go back to yugioh, even though i was into it from the beginning.. To spare you the details of my personal journey with card games.. I played alot of them for long times and amassed big collections, now i liquidate the them for flesh and blood (save for a few sentimental collection pieces). I also will point to the common mask of three tails being a budget replacement for mask of momentum with the ninja class. Arguably the mask of three tails is easier to hit than mask of momentum but its a one shot instant instead of a constant pressure. The option is available now. Given time, more common and rare options will come like this, some just slightly different from the legendary equipment that inspires the budget version. LSS is always adapting to the wants and needs of many different player archetypes (tournament players, casual players, collectors, even investors). If you pivot the whole dispute to timeframe, then i say just be patient. There is tons of fuel in the tank and we've come very far for just 5 years, especially given that the times have changed and to start a tcg 15-30 years ago is a whole different thing from doing it just 5 years ago. Considering also that LSS is trying to revitalize the table top, physical card playing, go to the game store culture that is almost lost to the convenience of digital service for "card games". There is so many layers that change what flesh and blood has done to succeed versus what mtg or yugioh, pokemon, ect.. Had to do until they were so established that they just stick despite the predatory marketing practices that mtg, pokemon, and yugioh use. Flesh and blood is a renegade in this sense because it cares about its game more than the profit, you cant say that about the others, in my opinion.
@jchu4493
@jchu4493 5 месяцев назад
It's never implied in the video but a Monster Hunter x Flesh and Blood PVE collab is exactly what they should be searching for imo
@Thebluedud
@Thebluedud 5 месяцев назад
Man... I remember a bunch of people trying to tell me about this new game called Monster Hunter that's harder than Dark Souls and just rolling my eyes. MHW is a joke compared to the older games and I'd been playing for almost 10 years at that point.
@StripedJacket
@StripedJacket 5 месяцев назад
MHWorld wasn’t even difficult, the issues I found with Mh games were they were tedious. Meaning you needed to put time into the game before they got fun fun
@Sloopdoop
@Sloopdoop 5 месяцев назад
MHW and ESPECIALLY Rise are genuinely super easy compared to older games. I still remember getting hard walled by G Rank Molten Tigrex in MH4U (hammer user back then). Took me probably 10 fights to kill it. Not to mention Gogmazios. World and Rise never came close to giving me that wall, except with Behemoth which wasn't even a proper MH fight
@MrYsosad
@MrYsosad 5 месяцев назад
so basically you are saying: just wait 15 years and FAB will be successful?
@hamsandwich6685
@hamsandwich6685 5 месяцев назад
It already is successful at 5 years.
@stigmurder99
@stigmurder99 5 месяцев назад
So basically you are saying, you didn't actually watch the video? 😂 FaB is just getting bigger and bigger, sounds like someone's just mad.
@Sloopdoop
@Sloopdoop 5 месяцев назад
Totally
@GROW_YOUTUBE_VIEWS_m104
@GROW_YOUTUBE_VIEWS_m104 5 месяцев назад
it sounds really nice
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