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Flint Knapping Trade Secrets Vol. 1 - How Ishi Knapped a Slab Part 1 

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Ishi worked slabs in a very unique way. In this video, I demonstrate how I belive Ishi worked his glass slabs. I made these observations during a visit to the Hearst museum where Ishi's artifacts are housed.

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26 авг 2024

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@magwamagwa45110
@magwamagwa45110 3 года назад
well you are still zig zagging just in reverse which you have to do some variation on a slab to knap both sides. Also by working into the mass you stand a much bigger chance of breaking the piece.. that is why most knap away from the base like starting at the base and taking flakes away from the mass same with working from the tip. Ishi was very unique with his knapping it is the beauty of the craft thanks for sharing....
@DarqueScape
@DarqueScape 12 лет назад
I want to say thank you for introducing me to the story of Ishi with this video. I never knew who he was until you made me curious enough to do some research after I watched this. His was a fascinating, tragic story. Thanks for sharing & I hope you do many more. You are truly talented.
@gtrpkr1
@gtrpkr1 11 лет назад
The flintknapper that taught me was Richard Warren and he supposedly learned from a old indian.he abraded with sandstone.I have also found pieces of sandstone you could tell were abraders..Neat way of doing it but I think some abraded..My opinion
@backyardsounds
@backyardsounds 11 лет назад
Love your videos....been practicing on glass for a couple weeks now. I've found a lot of the striking becomes muscle memory over time, I suppose likes lots of things.
@FlintknapperJimmy
@FlintknapperJimmy 14 лет назад
@5tonyvvvv He actually had a modern saw which is on display in my other video of the museum of Anthropology Berkeley. In his territory he used Western juniper but he used other woods while at the museum like Hickory and Yew. He also spoke of Incense Ceder as a alternative wood but sinew-backed juniper was his first choice. He used stone to shape his bows but he switched to a hand axe later. He spoke of the "master bowyer" of his tribe who had a ax as well.
@puffinlittle
@puffinlittle 2 года назад
Greetings, obviously it took me a while to find your post but Thank You for actually looking at the artifacts and working to understand what Isis did rather than making assumptions. Good work and thanks again. pax, PL
@PWArchery
@PWArchery 11 лет назад
I struggle to get flakes to go to the middle in slabs or any stone for that matter. Getting the slabs started is also an issue for me.
@mailmanx141
@mailmanx141 11 лет назад
are you placeing the piece between your legs when flaking? If you do, you can use your leg strength to squeeze against your flaking arm and apply slow, massive pressure to the peice you are working. Put the peice between your legs, use your arms and legs both, then SQUEEZE. I had better results with this, but still struggle to get long flakes myself. Let me know if this works.
@nicolebuffin9025
@nicolebuffin9025 5 лет назад
Show preserving tomatoes in wood ashes
@1999mikedunn
@1999mikedunn 10 лет назад
My compliments. Benefited greatly from parts one and two. I also read the Ishi book about 25 years ago. Still have the book. A great hobby.
@jaf506
@jaf506 8 лет назад
Nice video. Everyone's gung ho on using copper points for knapping, but steel in that size is of course a lot easier to find. Is it at much of a disadvantage compared to copper? I'd guess it wouldn't "bite" into the material quiet as well, but you don't seem to have any problem. I assume the "up ticks" are just flaking off a small chip to provide a platform, and these were what Ishi used instead of abrading platforms? Thanks for the very informative video!!
@FlintknapperJimmy
@FlintknapperJimmy 14 лет назад
@5tonyvvvv In California steel tools made from wire fencing were used by the Indians during the historic period. Ishi utilized iron pressure flakers, man-made glass and ceramics while living in the wild. He also used antler and obsidian too, as you pointed out. Pope and Kreober actually had to persuade Ishi to use antler for "traditional" demos since Ishi preferred steel, both in the wild and in captivity.
@flychamp
@flychamp 14 лет назад
Great video Jimmy. Next time I see you I would like for you to sign the Ishi point you gave me. Thanks, Darrell
@FlintknapperJimmy
@FlintknapperJimmy 14 лет назад
@flychamp Hi Darrell, I was just thinking about you today when I drove past Dillard Rd. in Sac. I had a great time at the knap-in and I'm glad you came. We'll have to get together and knap one of these days.
@FlintknapperJimmy
@FlintknapperJimmy 14 лет назад
@IamMohawk It does, but more importantly it recesses the edge back far enough to hook into the negative bulb. Flakes are actually taken off slightly behind the platform rather than right on the edge.
@keverc
@keverc 12 лет назад
I have a piece of carrera art glass ( 8"x 1 1/2" x 1/4" cobalt blue ) coming in the mail. I want to make a nice blade out of it. I am just getting into knapping. I am reading all the books I can find and watching alot of videos as well as knapping chert and I have 19lbs of obsidion being shipped to me. I have tried knapping wine bottle bottoms but I seem to smash them but I am not the type to quit. So I will keep at it and buy lots of bandaids lol
@dalepalm1138
@dalepalm1138 6 лет назад
This is the video that made me want to learn how to do this... thank you for making this video...
@FlintknapperJimmy
@FlintknapperJimmy 14 лет назад
@widgeonslayer Iron is superior in every way. However, it slips on abraded platforms.
@shoshoni100
@shoshoni100 Месяц назад
Where did flintknapper Jimmy go, miss the videos.
@FlintknapperJimmy
@FlintknapperJimmy 14 лет назад
@supermaucat Thanks! Check out my other Ishi videos. You can see one of his bows there. Steve Allely can make Ishi bows exactly to spec. Still, there is nothing like standing before the real one itself, or fondling his point with your own hands!
@scottiehozment6696
@scottiehozment6696 3 года назад
Great video so helpful thank you
@yetimountaintrading5859
@yetimountaintrading5859 5 лет назад
Thank you I'm new buddy but I dig what your doing and learning
@supermaucat
@supermaucat 14 лет назад
@FlintknapperJimmy Thanks Jimmy! I plan on going to Phoebe Hearst museum in the fall. PS: Just heard you have an Ishi DVD for sale... will pick it up!
@RichardOhKaNoi
@RichardOhKaNoi 11 лет назад
Ha ha ha what is more comical than watching a video on some of the same things that I do and then have my chihuahua barking in the background. on my leather i cut out a nice chunk from a weight lifting belt gives my glass plenty of support. and I also use steel in my ishi sticks but i use a low grade iron works good but i do use an abrader thanks for posting your video now go watch mine .OH-KA-NOI bone carving and more.
@snailface1981
@snailface1981 9 лет назад
Hey bud when you going to do more knapping videos? I've found them so useful and watched your videos over and over.
@riverrat2993
@riverrat2993 9 лет назад
you started your point at the corners to make a platform. of which you had to flip over to use it to remove platform. at least thats my interpretation of zigzaging.
@johnnyhope5438
@johnnyhope5438 10 лет назад
I slit all my fingers wide open working a glass bottle bottom great video
@supermaucat
@supermaucat 14 лет назад
SUPERB video Jimmy! I've always been fascinated with Ishi and have read the book you mentioned. Have you seen his bow by any chance? I wonder if anyone makes bows today like he used to make them... they're quite awesome from what I've read.
@a.b.k1983
@a.b.k1983 11 лет назад
I just want to know where you got the glass preform? I like knapping glass way better then flint or obsidian to be honest. Seems to flake much better
@johnkirkland8426
@johnkirkland8426 9 лет назад
I really appreciate your insights on Ishi..how can I get my hands on your dvd?
@FlintknapperJimmy
@FlintknapperJimmy 9 лет назад
John Kirkland Thanks for you interest. the dvd can be found at dc-waldorf.com
@johnkirkland8426
@johnkirkland8426 9 лет назад
FlintknapperJimmy I've had an interest in history and culture since i was a kid..and being from Cherokee bloodline I've always wanted to learn as much as I could..I never thought I would be able to make the survival tools used in the past..I've made jewelry and knives from bone and antler but never tried knapping til recently so I'm very grateful for others like you that have kept the spirit alive and in the process, giving aspects, ideas and opinions in order to better understand the old ways for future generations..great appreciation and thanks goes out to you!👍👍
@oilfieldman1209
@oilfieldman1209 2 года назад
Weren't they the power line insulators?
@WAGONJON
@WAGONJON 11 лет назад
Great information! Thank you! Do you have an informational on how you made your iron flaker? The one in this vid? I want to duplicate it if you won't mind? What kind of iron is it? A nail, spike, or something else?
@FlintknapperJimmy
@FlintknapperJimmy 14 лет назад
@supermaucat I greatly appreciate it! Thanks!
@redeyebassin9961
@redeyebassin9961 Год назад
Fun fact, the blue glass your taking about was old insulator glass
@RonRay
@RonRay 11 лет назад
Is there a particular steel (iron) that you use? Is it carbon steel (hard) or mild steel? You probably have a "source" for your raw material, because you've worked it down like a double-sided spade from round stock. Knowing the hardness of the steel would be very important to me. Thanks.
@Mykabyte
@Mykabyte 11 лет назад
why does my pressure flaking always get short flakes unlike yours? please help thanks
@widgeonslayer
@widgeonslayer 14 лет назад
In use how does the Iron compare to Copper? I have only used Copper and antler.
@candisbrendel7396
@candisbrendel7396 11 лет назад
long time to remember but, you said you ALMOST cut your knuckle?! we saw blood so you did cut it! may not have felt it but it is bleeding cool video too!!
@matthiasliszt8490
@matthiasliszt8490 5 лет назад
So, why do people fail in chipping large flakes ....
@freedbylove
@freedbylove 11 лет назад
a few seconds after i said that u mentioned safety glasses
@jakecatoe9519
@jakecatoe9519 7 лет назад
Where do you get your glass
@patrickbush9526
@patrickbush9526 4 года назад
I think he did use milk of Amnesia glass but I can't remember
@oldhandsanitizer6990
@oldhandsanitizer6990 5 лет назад
How did i get this recomonded?
@brokenrecord3523
@brokenrecord3523 3 года назад
an uptick is not abrasion?
@316bluethunder
@316bluethunder 11 лет назад
ishi was a race of Native peoples that was exterminated during the California gold rush and the independence of the USA
@woodsinme
@woodsinme 13 лет назад
Nice. Thanks.
@Thesterness
@Thesterness 11 лет назад
What kind of nails do you use for your pressure flaker? The shape of the tip doesn't look like a horse nail or an ordinary 16d-20d nail.
@emmetsmith4442
@emmetsmith4442 7 лет назад
Thesterness it looks like a square nail hammered down to a point.
@survivalstuff2
@survivalstuff2 11 лет назад
So basically you have to create a platform for yourself to take off the big chunks? I tried my first point the other day and failed.
@thefirerockstar
@thefirerockstar 11 лет назад
thank you!!!!!
@psyborg303
@psyborg303 11 лет назад
you tried to sell me one of his knives at the monterey farmers market
@wombatstevens7476
@wombatstevens7476 11 лет назад
Just close your eyes and think fluffy white couds and sheep!
@Rainaman-
@Rainaman- 4 года назад
Blood for the blood God!
@TheCherokeehawk
@TheCherokeehawk 13 лет назад
who is ishi sorry ia am new to flint knapping,etc.
@primitiveknowledge8431
@primitiveknowledge8431 8 лет назад
Make more vids!
@riverrat2993
@riverrat2993 9 лет назад
but you are zig zaging, just doing one side, then the other, zig. then the first side then the other zag.
@316bluethunder
@316bluethunder 11 лет назад
time to feed the dog at 7.58
@Aelidiil
@Aelidiil 8 лет назад
Watching this...having never flint knapped before...it feels like ive done exactly this same thing O_O maybe its my native american blood...or maybe im just really drunk.
@freedbylove
@freedbylove 11 лет назад
i hope u were wearing sunglasses when doing that, glass in the eye is not good
@wombatstevens7476
@wombatstevens7476 11 лет назад
Awww DUDE that's not cool. I hope it wasn't to serious!
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