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Floating Stylus Test For The Maillardet Automaton With Commentary 

Fran Blanche
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@ethanpoole3443
@ethanpoole3443 7 лет назад
Have you ever considered using a Wacom digitizing pad and stylus to capture the variations in pressure? The tablets will both capture the X/Y coordinates as well as the pressure and there are several different nibs available, including the softest spring loaded nib (as well as felt nibs if desired) that I suspect would work best to capture the effect. You may still need to spring load or weight the stylus because the spring loaded nib does not have as great a range of motion as the pen in your video, but you should still be able to capture much of the variation in pressure and manipulate that in Adobe Illustrator (or other modern vector editor) to better visualize the end result of those variations.
@FranLab
@FranLab 7 лет назад
The video is posted here out of context - to learn more about the test, read my blog article that is linked in the description....
@artisankatstudios7902
@artisankatstudios7902 7 лет назад
This reminds me of the way that Rapidograph pens work.
@artisankatstudios7902
@artisankatstudios7902 7 лет назад
Also, it's really great to see you here again:)
@beingatliberty
@beingatliberty 7 лет назад
if you get a chance again - put a wacom in his hand working on a cintiq it will show the full variation of pressure ?
@RMoribayashi
@RMoribayashi 7 лет назад
The Franklin Institute was a second home to me growing up and I remember the automaton well, on the ground floor directly across from the main elevator. By the time I donned a lab coat and roamed museum's floors as a "Demonstrator" in '74 it was no longer functioning but still on display. I'm glad they seem to be determined to keep it running again. Oh yeah... welcome back.
@PovlKvols
@PovlKvols 7 лет назад
Good to see you again, Fran! Great work - looking forward to see more of this.
@reabinc
@reabinc 7 лет назад
Very interesting. Would like to see more of the 'back end workings'
@HerrBaton
@HerrBaton 7 лет назад
Your experiment would have been much easier if you had an adjustable pulpit. I wonder if the offset is not related to the fact the original pulpit was at slight angle.
@FranLab
@FranLab 7 лет назад
You can read the blog - The wooden 'desk' we are using is Andy's tool that is used when the top of the case is removed for servicing. That glass top contains the original brass writing desk, and it is flat. The original pen is held completely perpendicular to the writing surface.
@lunstee
@lunstee 7 лет назад
I think I've seen pen plotter pens based on valving like you sketch out, though my memory could well be mistaken. Refills are probably extinct anyway even if I do remember correctly. I wonder though if the original pen might have been some sort of brush pen instead? That would give some degree of line weight variation that's probably more linear than what a valving approach could do.
@lunstee
@lunstee 7 лет назад
After reading over the blog entry, I think we can drop the brush pen idea. However, on digging a little into what I remember of the plotter pens, much to my surprise, the stylii are still produced not just for pen plotters, but also as technical drawing pens for hand drawing. Apparently, the sort of stylus you've sketched out is trademarked as the Rotring Rapidograph, and Rotring still produces pens and replacement nibs, also selling variants under the Koh-I-Noor name (the plotter pens I'd remembered were/are sold under the Rapidoplot name). There are other brands of technical pens that appear to be the same idea - the Staedtler Mars Matic feels especially familiar to me. Inkflow for these appears to be binary without any useful modulation between being on and off - these pens are meant to draw a defined line weight - but perhaps this was true of the original too.
@DamianReloaded
@DamianReloaded 7 лет назад
A digital drawing tablet could have sampled the pressure differences quite precisely. Or a Parker-style pen made them more evidently.
@BradLakeTV
@BradLakeTV 7 лет назад
Interchangeable stylus heads can be made for it, calligraphy tips. Great video.
@r08800
@r08800 7 лет назад
What was it writing at the start. Sorry, I'm at work and had to just skip through a lot while my machine was doing ITS thing. Ha ha I love that cursive writing. So much more beautiful than this ⬅️
@shane142
@shane142 7 лет назад
I'm wondering from what we know now with fine engineering. If anyone have made a modern versions of the Maillardet Automaton. Also are there any modern Automation's being made today. Using the old skills with out modern electronics.
@TRUMPLocalWallBuildersUnion
@TRUMPLocalWallBuildersUnion 7 лет назад
thats an amazing piece of artwork ! beautiful engineering as well ! thanks for uploading this !
@viperlodge
@viperlodge 7 лет назад
Hi, good to see you are back :) Maybe an incline in the table surface, or a longer tip of the stylus, so it can travel further up and down on the z axis. A great piece of engineering.
@lucywakeham4423
@lucywakeham4423 7 лет назад
Yay! The Fran-tone-ator is back, cool video, keep them coming.
@mavos1211
@mavos1211 6 лет назад
Such an amazing feat of engineering, it almost puts me in a trance watching it.
@oldestnerd
@oldestnerd 7 лет назад
I grew up in the Philadelphia area and visited the Franklin Institute many times and saw this automaton many times. It's nice to see it again. It's nice to see you "hacking" the stylus of such a unique piece of history. Thank you for sharing.
@mysticvirgo9318
@mysticvirgo9318 7 лет назад
Early engineering never ceases to amaze.. Glad you are back tubing with us again, fran :() (hug) How goes that guidance computer?
@dandhcomputers
@dandhcomputers 7 лет назад
This is very cool I never seen Maillardet Automaton thanks for posting .Please keep up the good work and keep you mind going thank you
@TheEPROM9
@TheEPROM9 7 лет назад
I am fascinated by these machines.
@DJDevon3
@DJDevon3 7 лет назад
This machine has been around for a long time and many people have taken care of it so I'm sure that everyone knows what they are doing... but it would have been nice to explain why the counter balance must be adjusted instead of the table top. I think it's awesome that you were given this opportunity, not many people in the world would even be allowed to touch that machine let alone work on a restoration project. I'm really happy for you, that must have been an exciting day. :)
@FranLab
@FranLab 7 лет назад
Read the blog...
@PAINFOOL13
@PAINFOOL13 7 лет назад
Nicely done ...
@DJignyte
@DJignyte 7 лет назад
That was a fascinating watch. Thanks for sharing, Fran. It's always great to see content from you.
@youtubasoarus
@youtubasoarus 7 лет назад
Very cool! I remember seeing a documentary about these things. Fascinating engineering for so long ago.
@richfiles
@richfiles 7 лет назад
Such an incredible work of engineering art! You get to play with the most amazing "toys"! :D
@TrollingAround
@TrollingAround 7 лет назад
So glad you're back. Thanks for showing us this beautiful machine, excellent commentary. x
@mcsdaver
@mcsdaver 7 лет назад
This is wonderful work you are doing. I wish you had more time with the Maillardet Automaton. I wonder if I could get my robot Dave to draw something? I hope you get to work with the Maillardet Automaton again soon. I look forward to your upcoming videos.
@thegreenpickel
@thegreenpickel 7 лет назад
Nice to have a RU-vid video update from you Fran. Hopefully more awesome videos to follow. Thanks.
@garyfrisbie
@garyfrisbie 7 лет назад
Way cool, Fran...what an interesting video! The subtleties of the Automaton writing are wonderful to see. Thanks very much for posting this.
@toastersock
@toastersock 7 лет назад
Absolutly fantastic and quite extraorinary Fran, someone should fund a build of a working replica...sadly I don't have enough to fund that myself! I wonder if that could be crowd funded, enough interest?
@54tony379
@54tony379 7 лет назад
thanks fran
@davecheney2314
@davecheney2314 7 лет назад
Fran.... great to hear from you once again 😀
@jordanrenaud-pq7rx
@jordanrenaud-pq7rx 6 лет назад
Your voice is like satin. Dreamy, even. This narration is an excellent way to use your voice. You could work sometimes as a narrator. A bit reminicent of Rikki Lee Jones...how is your singing voice? I could listen for hours....
@JuanDanielAlvaradoRamirez
@JuanDanielAlvaradoRamirez 7 лет назад
Awesome :)
@SarahRWilson
@SarahRWilson 7 лет назад
First things first. it's good to see that you're posting, even if it's not in the usual format. Truth be told, methinks that this is a wonderful change of pace, and very informative. thanks for sharing! Secondly, for all the comments suggesting tilting the table, somehow I get the feeling that you're wanting to change the action of the Z-axis cam. In this way you're fixing the problem, instead of covering the symptom. I wish you the best of luck with this endeavor, should you get a chance to return to there to tweak some more on this really cool project! Last but certainly not least, the writing that this automaton creates is simply wonderful! Stay gold. SW =¡=
@MrKennected
@MrKennected 7 лет назад
Thanks Fran. Absolutely fascinating! I have made a floating pen tip for my cnc router to make pen plots. It's interesting that we both found the G2 as a good (and cheap) ink source that works quite well. Let me know if there is anything I can do to forward your work here.
@jbloodwo
@jbloodwo 7 лет назад
Looks like Spencerian script. Maybe try with some form of a flex nib fountain pen.
@mikethomas6120
@mikethomas6120 7 лет назад
Fran it seem today that you could totally program one of these to forge signatures no? Btw I love your pedals. If you ever need an intern or helper I would love to be considered! I have over ten years of musical instrument retail sales and management experience. Plus I can work on guitar's and do setups! I'd love to help you out as you seem to now be rebuilding your pedal biz? Hit me up if you'd like to talk more! Thanks and all the best, Mike
@abevigoda3149
@abevigoda3149 2 года назад
Judging by the precise movements of the stylus even the correct ink formulation would be required to get an accurate viscosity for a proper ink flow to get a rendition of the drawings as intended by the creator(s) of the machine, because of the subtlety of the strokes shown.
@TheCompWiz
@TheCompWiz 7 лет назад
... just two observations... back in the days of classic ink pens... the "pumping action" as you described would be used to broaden the strokes...the two halves of the stylus tip would split wider, and cause the width of the stroke to widen along with it. Also, the ink should not need any sort of valve to open/close to control the ink flow. Traditional ink pens would have an "ink feed" that would use the surface-tension of the ink to stop the flow... and allow more of a wicking-action to keep the ink flowing when needed.
@peterhakanson6797
@peterhakanson6797 7 лет назад
Interesting as usual. Thanks fran for sharing this. BTW what ink solution was originally used ?
@clem1462
@clem1462 7 лет назад
Happy to see you've released another video. There still may be a glimmer of hope for part 2 of the Wanamaker organ.
@hannahmich7342
@hannahmich7342 7 лет назад
You are so blessed with such an active mind. In the process your one of a handful of people that draw upon for inspiration for my little projects.
@neonboy22
@neonboy22 7 лет назад
Fantastic to see it from this angle and your ideas about the ink tube seem spot on. Thanks so much for showing us this. I'm way too far away to ever visit. I hope one day a simulacrum of the cams and mechanism might make it to the light of day. Best wishes and great work in such a limited time frame.
@darcieclements4880
@darcieclements4880 3 года назад
There would have been another machine that created the blueprints for the cams by recording the movements of someone. I assume that one is still lost? Has anyone built a new one? Has anyone made a reproduction of this one for additional study or to show in a fully finished state alongside the naked one? I agree the z-axis is very very important to how this machine works and plays a big role in why it is so much better than many of the more recent attempts at drawing automata.
@TheHopeDreier
@TheHopeDreier 7 лет назад
Absolutely fascinating, thank you and glad that you are back.
@david_pilling
@david_pilling 7 лет назад
I would like to say that it wrote "help I am trapped under this thing" and you pen technicians were too busy to notice.
@Mrpurple75
@Mrpurple75 3 года назад
Amazing machine! Awesome opportunity
@sadiqmohamed681
@sadiqmohamed681 7 лет назад
You get to do the coolest things, Fran! I will read your blog tomorrow when I'm not so tired.
@colinwinfield4032
@colinwinfield4032 7 лет назад
great to see you again sold your experiment to me looking forward to see more !! thank you xx
@TrollingAround
@TrollingAround 7 лет назад
just a thought, could it be that the desk is needed to be a an angle? It looks like it needs to be raised towards the top and right of the surface.
@glenwoofit
@glenwoofit 7 лет назад
Interesting. those things must have been magical in their day they still are today.
@gillywild
@gillywild 7 лет назад
Yay! Welcome back Fran :) lovely to see you again :)
@landspide
@landspide 7 лет назад
Should there be a slight tilt of the table towards the automaton?
@irobotroomba2483
@irobotroomba2483 7 лет назад
This is sooooo coo!!! Theses things are fantastic!
@raymondheath7668
@raymondheath7668 7 лет назад
I never knew that the stylus was that advanced
@nwbackcountry5327
@nwbackcountry5327 7 лет назад
Are you going to sell any drawings?
@hannahmich7342
@hannahmich7342 7 лет назад
I love it! I always love your shows
@RobertSzasz
@RobertSzasz 7 лет назад
That sounds much more like a standard ink pen nib. Under higher pressure the nib opens up and allows for a wider line.
@RobertSzasz
@RobertSzasz 7 лет назад
and have you tried technical/ drafting pens? The Rapidograph uses a similar point and stem, though the weight at the top doesn't actually valve off the ink flow. adjusting the table might be easier than adjusting the hand
@davidlondon3111
@davidlondon3111 7 лет назад
Great work as always Fran - thanks
@2010craggy
@2010craggy 7 лет назад
Glad your back Fran :)
@breadwarandcircus
@breadwarandcircus 7 лет назад
Yay! It's Fran again!
@johngalt9262
@johngalt9262 7 лет назад
welcome back :)
@elkabong6429
@elkabong6429 7 лет назад
That was fun! How is the automaton programmed?
@richfiles
@richfiles 7 лет назад
She mentions cams. The motions of the arm and head are basically position coded by differing heights on a rotating cam.
@ermyvids
@ermyvids 7 лет назад
nice to see you
@paulgracey4697
@paulgracey4697 7 лет назад
Could the original have been more like a caligraphy pen with a split nib? That reservoir has a stop ring for weight regulation of height floating within the hand tube, which would have obviated the plastic guide for the Pilot pen that you substituted for diameter purposes getting too close for the loose tolerances of the Z axis.
@FranLab
@FranLab 7 лет назад
Read the blog - The pen is perpendicular to the paper surface at all times, not tilted, and must draw an extremely fine line in all directions. There is no maneuver for dipping - and fountain pens with their air exchange regulators were more than a century away.
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