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Florida's Housing Crisis: Section 8 vouchers not keeping up with rent hikes 

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@sinebar
@sinebar 2 года назад
If the federal government can afford to give Ukraine $5.3 billion to Ukraine it can afford to build housing for low income workers and senior citizens. Low income Americans and seniors pay taxes and contribute to the economy. What does countries like Ukraine contribute? Nothing! But they get billions of US dollars. Something is not right here.
@lauriekepaa8464
@lauriekepaa8464 2 года назад
100% Agree
@KC-dr3cg
@KC-dr3cg 2 года назад
Adding to the problem of Section 8 recipients is that many places now are expunging evictions so I as a landlord don't have a way to keep Riff Raff Section 8 people out to just keep the good Section 8 people as tenants
@francinamitchell4214
@francinamitchell4214 2 года назад
Yes indeed
@seventhcompactor1505
@seventhcompactor1505 Год назад
Wrong
@lolatruitt1441
@lolatruitt1441 Год назад
Facts
@confusedcynic9073
@confusedcynic9073 2 года назад
Landlords would fight for sec 8 tenants, even with reduced rates, and the government bs. If sec 8 tenants wouldn't destroy your place, and if they did, HUD would fix it. I know it is not all of them, that destroy places, but it is a high percentage that do, and they bring in extra family and friends, that have no place to stay. You would think if you were given a almost free place to live, you would tread lightly, cause no problems, and take care of the place, but no they are the opposite of that. Section 8 tenants have crapped in their own bed, now they can lie in it.
@winning3329
@winning3329 2 года назад
Not every tenant destroys the property. You have been brainwashed by what the media shows you.
@confusedcynic9073
@confusedcynic9073 2 года назад
@@winning3329 I have first hand experience with sec 8 that cost me 10k plus a whole lot of work, if I hired it done it would have been close to 40k. HUD told its a civil matter. As I stated in my comment, I know its not all of them.
@lulilulu8172
@lulilulu8172 2 года назад
They will destroy your property
@seventhcompactor1505
@seventhcompactor1505 Год назад
@@lulilulu8172 So have them beaten.
@Hello-nl1km
@Hello-nl1km Год назад
I know people that have destroy apartments that are not on section 8
@guillermone1
@guillermone1 Год назад
The only way you are going to get a landlord to accept a housing voucher, if the federal gov't makes them an offer they couldn't refuse. Like offering a bonus or paying an above market value rent or premium rental prices just for accepting a section 8 voucher. Other than that, FORGETTABOUT IT.
@StalkedByLosers
@StalkedByLosers 8 месяцев назад
No. Here in Cali they made it illegal to not accept it because it is money. It's literally money.
@rbonito8668
@rbonito8668 2 года назад
This is sad her 8-year-old grandson where's the mother where's the father where's the other family members
@ceecee4552
@ceecee4552 2 года назад
She's taking care of her grandson.It's Nobody 's Business .Where 's the kid's parents.
@wturner777
@wturner777 Год назад
@@ceecee4552 Exactly. The parents might've passed away or something.
@daniella8400
@daniella8400 Год назад
Exactly!
@williamegler8771
@williamegler8771 Год назад
@@wturner777 If the parents passed away the child would be getting survivors benefits.
@williamegler8771
@williamegler8771 Год назад
Absentee father and the mother probably dropped her son off at the grandmother's because her new BAE doesn't want him around.
@rolandsoh4838
@rolandsoh4838 Год назад
I have a great section 8 tenant for 14 years. I hate to raise her rent 4% and 2 times the past 2 years out of no choice as a small landlord , my Property taxes went from $46K (2017) to $89K (2023), due to the dramatic increase home price assessment in my area!! Insurance also went double! since I pay for water. the rate also went up last year. As a retiree , Im taking a income cut each year.
@m.sanchez1785
@m.sanchez1785 Год назад
14 years? That is too many years. Raise her rent
@robertlunderwood
@robertlunderwood 6 месяцев назад
Unless the tenant is disabled, no one should be on Section 8 for 14 years. They are abusing the system.
@annb5610
@annb5610 2 года назад
sounds like the same problem with medical and Medicare.. government not keeping up with rising cost
@lulilulu8172
@lulilulu8172 2 года назад
Imagine a tenant who blames the world and landlord for his problems, has a voucher covering his rent so he doesn't work but stay at home all day, punching holes In the wall, dirtying the place up, has a hood party every night, neighbors calling you all day complaining, doing thousands of dollars worth of damage, now imagine that tenant times 10. That's what section 8 is.
@robie_zoeyes7716
@robie_zoeyes7716 Год назад
His his his that’s all I read. Kind of sexist don’t you think? You better look up who’s mostly on section 8, and has no fathers in the home. “Hers”
@jmcnally647
@jmcnally647 2 года назад
In general everyone needs help with rising housing costs, the prices are too high on rentals and homes for sale across the nation, EVERYONE. I wish we could not classify people into groups by their income level, I feel this has overall been a disservice to humanity.
@seventhcompactor1505
@seventhcompactor1505 Год назад
Prices aren't too high. People are overspending. Share space. Problem solved.
@longbeach225
@longbeach225 Год назад
@@seventhcompactor1505Hope that is sarcastic.
@longbeach225
@longbeach225 Год назад
This is what happens when the Government allow Wallstreet become landlords.
@seventhcompactor1505
@seventhcompactor1505 Год назад
@@longbeach225 No. It's reality
@truthhurts...6574
@truthhurts...6574 Год назад
But they already kinda tried that with section 8/vouchers. Guess what happened?They placed a lot of them into nice clean quiet working class neighborhoods in houses instead of designated projects. And they ran them into the ground and completely destroyed some of these homes and apartments. They thought by moving them into better places with better schools that they would do better. Some of them had kids with behavioral problems and they turned those schools upside down with fighting other students and teachers along with others things. It happened in my old neighborhood with my first home I lived in for 10 yrs and then it changed. I knew it was time to go when I saw a grown man with no shirt on walking a pit bull on a leash down the street. He was smoking and had a little toddler walking behind him with a tshirt and a pamper on...no shoes either. They didn't upkeep the house as in not literring, actually keeping the grass cut, bringing their degenerate boyfriends who were living the street life with them dealing drugs and gang activity. Some bought male family members with them who were always into mischief and even shooting. Now when I pass by my old neighborhood it looks unrecognizable. It may not have been all of them, but the goods one who use the system properly as a stepping stone to do better and move off of the system are a minority. In my opinion they should do a registry for those types of tenants. If they were horrible tenants then you add them to the registry so that landlords can make a informed decision about whether to rent to them or a grade system. That way you can weed out the rotten apples. Some landlordd already know what's up and screen for certain things now. People have more pride it seems in taking care of things that they worked and scraped to get. The ones that are handed things are ungrateful and entitled. They are going to put them back into something similar to the projects to reclaim some of these neighborhoods I feel and rightfully so. It's not really about social economics it's about behavior. I've seen many poor people that were respectful, hardworking, took care of anything given to them and didn't engage in low vibrational activities unlike some of these others
@rbonito8668
@rbonito8668 2 года назад
Why does she need a three bedroom when it's only her and her grandson
@wturner777
@wturner777 Год назад
That's what she qualifies for. If you have dependents to take care of, you have a better chance at Section 8.
@Lucienne-zz1sw
@Lucienne-zz1sw Год назад
@@wturner777 Then the system is completely flawed. There should be no requirement to allocate more than two bedrooms. Otherwise, HUD is wasting US taxpayer's hard earned money.
@wturner777
@wturner777 Год назад
@@Lucienne-zz1sw I'm not saying it isn't flawed. There are so many families in need of housing, but have to wait forever to get in. You all know a country is in dire straits when people can't even afford the most important necessities, which are housing and food.
@jes6161
@jes6161 Год назад
So she can move in Pookie and dem 😂
@claudettedoyley9056
@claudettedoyley9056 Год назад
@@jes6161 I live in a one-bedroom condo if I had a child. I share my bedroom with my child. And work on my job skills that I can get a bigger property.
@yankinwaoz
@yankinwaoz Год назад
Seriously? The tax payers are required to buy each of your kids their own bedroom? I had to share a bedroom with by siblings growing up. That is what bunk beds are for. People in Navy get a rack with everyone else. They don't get their own staterooms.
@chrisreed26
@chrisreed26 2 года назад
She is given $1500 to $2700 for rent according to zip code so in a lower area such as NPR maybe $1500.There are places for rent for that price..At $2700 there are some very nice homes..Near me, in Valrico, there is a 3/2 with 2 car garage beautiful redone home for $2500...Great area Brentwood Hills..The thing is finding a property that will ACCEPT section 8 vouchers! Experienced landlords know the problems Section 8 is and how a large portion of the tenants are less than desirable to rent to..They have a history of trashing homes as they are living there free etc..So the secret to this is have as many kids as you can and let the tax payers pay your rent all because you failed to use birth control! They know the system! I would rather rent to a working family with good credit than a bunch of messy kids!!I'm harsh I know..and don't say I'm being racist..Section 8 is all colors!!! I sure would LOVE to be given even a $1K towards rent but to get over $2K? Wow! I would be overjoyed!! I would give my left nut for that kind of help!!! Maybe my right one if it has a pool!!
@MMM-dq2cd
@MMM-dq2cd 2 года назад
I agree. Tired of paying for people to live. Get jobs stop relying on the government. When times are tough you need to prioritize and spend money wisely
@TheMohamed1952
@TheMohamed1952 2 года назад
What a pig
@KC-dr3cg
@KC-dr3cg 2 года назад
So we saw a story about a grandmother with one 8-year-old grandchild why does she need a three bedroom and do you know how many families had six kids and a two-bedroom house and did just fine
@doshalongeter6581
@doshalongeter6581 2 года назад
For the people out here who, "don't know shit about living as a Section 8 recipient, or the reasons to why they are, "eligible," for it. Please close your mouth. Our taxes are wasted all together anyways! Maybe you should have made better decisions to why you are in your position! You don't understand the obstacles experienced by some of these families. And it's discriminatory, the statements your making...you sound horrible. The assistance given to those on Section 8, aren't even a quarter of taxes wasted on whatever these politicians decide to piss it off on...so please...again you sound like a hater and understand there is real crisis in this world, people on Section 8, aren't simply on it because the gave birth to kids! Thanks...ridiculous...talk about the other reasons your tax dollars are wasted! Everyone deserves a home, and when you can't pay your rent anymore soon, we'll see how your perspective fits into the lines of affected citizens, in a Fd up world...your gonna be next 😉 💙 👍 You'll see how it feels to have no where to rest your head...this shit for EVERYONE, figure out a comment that holds some weight behind it! Prick! You don't even know where your tax dollars go haaaa....the world is against you too! O privileged one lol 🤣🤣🤣😭😭
@claudettedoyley9056
@claudettedoyley9056 2 года назад
@@KC-dr3cg When you have to pay your mortgage or rent. You live within your means.
@manleynelson9419
@manleynelson9419 2 года назад
Man the government's not going to take care of all your problems.
@KC-dr3cg
@KC-dr3cg 2 года назад
Where are the parents. Grandma?
@wturner777
@wturner777 Год назад
Possibly incarcerated or dead. We don't know unless you ask them.
@nvwi9687
@nvwi9687 2 года назад
I say cut off people that were on it for years and they will have more money for people that don't abuse the system
@arleenmorlino4019
@arleenmorlino4019 2 года назад
don't blame the system they get a pretty penny from the state each month.. But it's the property owners who are putting their foot down with sec.8 tenants. so there.
@jascam1
@jascam1 2 года назад
Here in lies the dilemma, those who need the service workers to clean, cook, lawncare etc., won't want the very service workers that they need living in close proximity to their neighborhoods/homes. They complain that multi-family homes are going to bring crime, noise and excess traffic to disrupt their live style. Then get ready to cut your own grass.
@seventhcompactor1505
@seventhcompactor1505 Год назад
So they commute for 2-4 hours a day. Problem solved.
@longbeach225
@longbeach225 Год назад
Exactly. Make them cut their own stuff. They got feet and hands.
@kinte1870
@kinte1870 Год назад
@seventhcompactor1505 who the hell travels 4 hours to cut grass
@aubsta1
@aubsta1 Год назад
Correct. I don't want multifamily homes (as in a single family homes housing three families or more) in my neighborhood.
@dennispatterson4998
@dennispatterson4998 2 года назад
if you can't feed em- don't have them
@wturner777
@wturner777 Год назад
Delria is a grandmother, but looks really young to be one. She didn't give birth to him, but life happens when the parents are no longer around to take care of him.
@smartypants6198
@smartypants6198 Год назад
Common story in the hood
@back2the80s
@back2the80s Год назад
That’s the grandmother learn to watch first
@markcjakims
@markcjakims 2 года назад
Rentals in FLA. HAS GONE INSANE no way worth the cost !
@seventhcompactor1505
@seventhcompactor1505 Год назад
So move.
@goddesseladari
@goddesseladari Год назад
@@seventhcompactor1505 🤣
@Choco-Kat
@Choco-Kat 4 месяца назад
Rent went up because people didn't pay rent for 2-3 years during the pandemic
@williamegler8771
@williamegler8771 Год назад
Section 8 is supposed to be a temporary situation not a permanent housing solution. If you are able bodied you should be able to support yourself through work and not depend on the taxpayers to provide you with housing or other benefits that other people have to totally fund themselves.
@Zalahblue
@Zalahblue Год назад
She can live there, but she has to pay the difference. That's how it works. If she's not willing to pay the difference then she needs to lower her standards.
@back2the80s
@back2the80s Год назад
And if she can’t afford extra? What do u expect people to do?
@TheMotherDucker
@TheMotherDucker Год назад
No it does not work that way. They will say it's unaffordable and not approve the lease.
@back2the80s
@back2the80s Год назад
@@TheMotherDucker exactly people think they know the housing rules. It’s not Disney camp
@omayraortega454
@omayraortega454 Год назад
That not the only thing the problem is administrative of section 8 they don’t give the tenant enough time to look for an apartment, am on section 8, and they giving a month to move knowing that up in may and that not enough time to look for an apartment here in Florida they don’t fallow the rules they make their own rules am suppose to get my voucher this months and they want to give it to me for next month they are forcing people out lose there section 8 and be I homelessness and go to a shelter if you don’t have nowhere to go this need to be addressed right away lots of people are losing it
@craigalston2208
@craigalston2208 Год назад
Notice how the woman said that if they didn't have their own separate beds that her GRANDSON was sleeping on the FLOOR or the COUCH ? Why doesn't she let the child have the bed ?
@scrimbyscrimb
@scrimbyscrimb Год назад
She literally never said that... she said "We're either sharing a twin bed, or he's lodging on the floor or on a sofa, and... we've always had our own bedrooms"
@scrimbyscrimb
@scrimbyscrimb Год назад
Also he's a child. Are you actually suggesting that it's wrong for a child to take the couch or the floor pallet while his grandmother sleeps on a bed. Americans also have an idiotic obsession with beds. There are developed nations like Japan where people sleep on futon mats regularly. It's not bad for you. It's especially not worse for a child than it would be for someone in their 50s. Generally the opposite is the case, actually.
@nicolehall2177
@nicolehall2177 2 года назад
Move inward of state. Get off gulf coast. 2700 is a lot of money given to you. I live in central Florida and could stay in a 4bd 2ba with hoa fees with that amount.
@marilyn8700
@marilyn8700 2 года назад
Exactly, they're trying to be on the beach on the taxpayer's dime, smh
@wturner777
@wturner777 Год назад
Moving costs money they probably don't have much of. They may not have a vehicle and rely on public transportation, so that's another obstacle.
@IamAlexisDiane
@IamAlexisDiane 2 года назад
This is sad. I’m in South East Florida and it’s just as bad. Unfortunately it’s going to get worse. We’re going to see a lot more families effected by these rent spikes. I spoke with someone yesterday and they’re raising her rent by $976 additional monthly.
@la-km_3828
@la-km_3828 2 года назад
That’s crazy! Unless they’ve done a complete re-vamp on her Complex…that’s almost hard to believe…an additional $1k/mos.
@seventhcompactor1505
@seventhcompactor1505 Год назад
Sharing space solves all of this.
@seventhcompactor1505
@seventhcompactor1505 Год назад
@@la-km_3828 Why ? When property goes up in value, the rents have to increase. An additional $1k/month only means the property went up around $200k
@jasonphilips4731
@jasonphilips4731 Год назад
@@seventhcompactor1505 The problem is majority of tenants do not want to share a space. What tenants don't understand if tenants want housing they don't have a choice.
@seventhcompactor1505
@seventhcompactor1505 Год назад
@@jasonphilips4731 Who cares what the tenants want ? They're bums. They can't afford their 'wants'.
@cola7up43
@cola7up43 2 года назад
That is the reason why they should not have torn down housing projects.
@seventhcompactor1505
@seventhcompactor1505 Год назад
Those had to be torn down. They were monstrosities
@Choco-Kat
@Choco-Kat 4 месяца назад
I agree projects should have remained. They should have been contained to one area.
@maureenjanousek9088
@maureenjanousek9088 2 года назад
Americans desperately need help but Brandon allows 4 MILLION ILLEGALS in here that also need help!
@Lucienne-zz1sw
@Lucienne-zz1sw Год назад
There is the same problem in the UK and it is completely out of control.
@chevy5954
@chevy5954 Год назад
The illegals are doing the jobs that most Americans will not do. Unless you are one of those Americans that would have no problem going to work in the fields or slaughter houses for 12+ hours at 7.00 and hr, maybe less with absolutely no benefits...stop complaining. We need them. You think Americans need help now. Imagine how high the cost of food and other necessities would be if they replaced them with Americans. You would be paying 15 dollars for bread. And around 17 to 20 for a gallon of milk. That's how much it would cost if they replaced them. America was built on cheap labor. Matter of fact we have thrived on it.
@LetArtsLive
@LetArtsLive Год назад
I am told I'm allowed 650 for a one-bedroom that includes nothing 824 an apartment that includes everything not possible
@mikeshoemaker1909
@mikeshoemaker1909 2 года назад
The gov destroyed private landlords and corp don't care. Reap what you sowed
@Lucienne-zz1sw
@Lucienne-zz1sw Год назад
There is the same problem in the United Kingdom. Over the past three years, 50% of private landlords have given up, because government makes it non viable in numerous cases to make any profit and so the landlord is obliged to sell and also evict tenants. It is also going to get worse, with more controls about giving notice to tenants and also required energy upgrading which can be exorbitantly expensive. The UK government does not protect property providers at all.
@rhondarichmond9259
@rhondarichmond9259 2 года назад
So make the baby mama pay for her own kid why do tax payers always flip a bill
@altha-rf1et
@altha-rf1et 2 года назад
The baby mama might be dead you do not know the whole story so do not assume
@saminaneen
@saminaneen 2 года назад
@@altha-rf1et Your UTube account will be suspended and banned, for you being RACIST & Misinformation Trollbot, Woketard
@winning3329
@winning3329 2 года назад
There's always judgemental people in the comments.
@wturner777
@wturner777 Год назад
@@altha-rf1et Exactly. It's easy for people to assume because it's so common all over the country.
@abovebeyondandforever6571
@abovebeyondandforever6571 Год назад
EXACTLY!
@adamantannihilation3139
@adamantannihilation3139 2 года назад
So he's sleeping on a twin bed? .... And then what? I'm confused. He's inside right?
@altha-rf1et
@altha-rf1et 2 года назад
why would she need a 3 bed room with just her and her son 1 bed room and one sleep in the living room if need be
@sniffhairdontcare8069
@sniffhairdontcare8069 2 года назад
I've seen children sleeping on sidewalks in other countries. Why she crying
@altha-rf1et
@altha-rf1et 2 года назад
@@sniffhairdontcare8069 not only in other countries but here in this country in this state in this county
@sniffhairdontcare8069
@sniffhairdontcare8069 2 года назад
@@altha-rf1et where you see kids here sleeping on street?
@altha-rf1et
@altha-rf1et 2 года назад
@@sniffhairdontcare8069 On Nebraska at night time coming home from work usually on the side of building a lot of homeless people will sleep along building with kids saw one couple with a baby even
@smartypants6198
@smartypants6198 Год назад
Florida has no social support system. But its not the private sectors responsibility to take your voucher. They opt out because of the tenants. They don't pay rent, with the voucher, keep it dirty, or have Pookie and Ray Ray there. She's not telling the full story. If he had a stable environment, why is he living with his homeless grandma? Something happened to the parents
@scrimbyscrimb
@scrimbyscrimb Год назад
Congratulations on being racist!
@langstontisdale1107
@langstontisdale1107 2 года назад
Where’s the father and mother????
@wturner777
@wturner777 Год назад
They could be dead. Who knows?
@tonalddrump5554
@tonalddrump5554 2 года назад
Time to move to Minneapolis or California or Maine or Detroit or Chicago or DC.
@KC-dr3cg
@KC-dr3cg 2 года назад
The Old Farmer's Almanac forecast that for Minneapolis the temperatures are going to be 40° colder oh my gosh are you kidding me it already gets to -50° wind chill I wouldn't suggest anybody move to Minneapolis if they are homeless and you certainly could not find Section 8 housing in Minneapolis
@tonalddrump5554
@tonalddrump5554 2 года назад
@@KC-dr3cg Well if you can’t find section 8.
@wturner777
@wturner777 Год назад
You're much worse off in those major cities because higher population means longer waiting lists for housing assistance. The kid would probably be an adult by the time the grandmother finally gets her own place.
@maryahb3014
@maryahb3014 Год назад
Even Ohio. It's real nice and affordable. Majority of everyone take section 8 in Toledo
@IntrovertA.F.
@IntrovertA.F. 2 года назад
work like the rest of us. problem solved.
@wturner777
@wturner777 Год назад
Who's going to take care of the kid while she's at work?
@IntrovertA.F.
@IntrovertA.F. Год назад
@@wturner777 work when the kids r in school. Thats what I do
@abovebeyondandforever6571
@abovebeyondandforever6571 Год назад
EXACTLY!! Stop being lazy, and entitled! They need to work like the rest of us do!
@wturner777
@wturner777 Год назад
@@IntrovertA.F. That's one way to do it. But what if the kids get home before the parents do? Depending on their age, that's no big deal, but when they're too young to take care of themselves, that's another story.
@maryahb3014
@maryahb3014 Год назад
Where is yal getting your information from. People do work on section 8. It's just for minimum wage they can afford and they pay the rest. If you lose your job then they cover you. Do more research before you speak
@galegrazutis964
@galegrazutis964 Год назад
Why doesn't she move somewhere cheaper!!!
@wturner777
@wturner777 Год назад
Moving takes money, and money they don't have much of.
@back2the80s
@back2the80s Год назад
Pay her moving costs then
@Choco-Kat
@Choco-Kat 4 месяца назад
They have plenty of money she doesn't pay anything out of pocket for food or rent​@@wturner777
@cashed-out2192
@cashed-out2192 10 месяцев назад
Uh, oh. That could be the reason, landlords won't rent to people, who depend upon this.
@beacarr9652
@beacarr9652 6 месяцев назад
Just ask working class and middle class folks OF THE SAME RACE about their neighborhoods after landlords take Section 8 Housing Vouchers. Landlords- DO NOT DO IT !!!
@rbonito8668
@rbonito8668 2 года назад
This is really sad that she can't pay any rent we have to pay all of it for them
@charmainewatson5843
@charmainewatson5843 Год назад
If the grandmother is watching, she should move to Baltimore, MD, you won't have that problem here. I know people that's don't have any problem getting section 8 housing in Baltimore city.
@dariusmosley1728
@dariusmosley1728 2 года назад
What's going to happen they're going to terminated a lot of those landlords because they're not following what's on those vouchers do not list your property for section 8 if you're not going to rent to tenants they can accept the voucher I've had issues here with that in Jacksonville and I've had to call numbers on people to get the job done point of a person having a section 8 voucher renting from them is because of reduce rent they should accept the voucher as it is they just refusing to house people to be honest.
@KC-dr3cg
@KC-dr3cg 2 года назад
It's not only the Section 8 recipients it's all the people who are in their circle of influence that I don't want to have around my properties and if I have to go through the eviction process the cost and the hassle is insane
@claudettedoyley9056
@claudettedoyley9056 2 года назад
Mr Moseley, unfortunately these are private homes the government cannot force people to take Section 8. These people went to a bank and got a mortgage. I feel bad for working class and it's going to be rough on anyone who's not making enough money you have to have two or three jobs to pay a rent ridiculous.
@dariusmosley1728
@dariusmosley1728 2 года назад
@@KC-dr3cg oh okay
@smartypants6198
@smartypants6198 Год назад
In my county you can't discriminate by source of income. But they can find other grounds. A lot of them rely on the system for bills.
@yankinwaoz
@yankinwaoz Год назад
@@claudettedoyley9056 In many cities and states, they are trying to force owners to take section 8. They are passing laws that make it illegal to "discrimate based on income". In other words, you can't turn down an application because their source of funds if section 8. What makes zero sense to me is that it isn't the source of funds that is the problem for a LL. It's all the other insane rules, costs, and bureaucracy that come with that are the problem. The LL has to sign a contract with the local HA and agree to the HA's rules. The HA can take months getting around to paying the rent, and you can't do anything.
@johngoldbunny3206
@johngoldbunny3206 2 года назад
NEVER accept section 8 housing vouchers. THEY NEVER LEAVE. ANd they sht up your home. EXPERIENCE
@MMM-dq2cd
@MMM-dq2cd 2 года назад
Yeah sick of section 8 vouchers being out handed out in nice neighborhoods. They come from the hood bringing their hood habits. If you can change your wig everyday, dress nice, air Jordans to match every outfit for baby mama and kids, smoke your weed out in the open why are you getting help? Don't forget the ebt cards. Pisses me off
@saminaneen
@saminaneen 2 года назад
@@MMM-dq2cd Your UTube account will be suspended and banned, for you being RACIST & Misinformation Trollbot, Woketard
@johngoldbunny3206
@johngoldbunny3206 2 года назад
@@MMM-dq2cd ANd WE pay for it.
@winning3329
@winning3329 2 года назад
I know a couple of people on section 8 and they keep their place nice and clean. I used to take care of a vet in a wheelchair and he was neat.
@MMM-dq2cd
@MMM-dq2cd 2 года назад
@@winning3329 there are exceptions. Some people just don't deserve the benefits. Veterans for sure do.
@Special_O.G
@Special_O.G Год назад
Media does an excellent job of telling you only bits & pieces of the story.. I’m sure I’m not the only one wondering where in thee hell is that kids mother and father?
@galegrazutis964
@galegrazutis964 Год назад
In prison addicted or both!!!
@neeciecollins4592
@neeciecollins4592 Год назад
Here in Fort Myers Florida I'm facing the same thing my landlord decided to not renew my lease because she wants to renovate the property and increase the rent but yet I have 2 children that are disabled we're currently not collecting benefits but they are listed as disabled and I have had a massive heart attack here this past year and yet now we're homeless and I have nowhere to take my kids my section 8 caseworker miss Agnes here for myers Florida is not answering anything from me my therapist the school social worker she's not responding to anything and state of Florida don't really care Or about what we single parents are going through our parents who have custodial rights over kids that do qualify for section 8 housing. So I too am currently facing this same situation
@daniella8400
@daniella8400 Год назад
So ask the kids father for help, you put yourself in the situation. You likely were struggling and poor before kids and decided to have them anyway thinking you could use the government!
@GoAskAlice23
@GoAskAlice23 Год назад
@@daniella8400 you are out of line. Who the F do you think you are? God? I’m 65, owned my own home for 20 years, paid $250,000 into the system and I am homeless because I don’t have a rental reference. Society is not perfect. This is not a movie. We live in the land of plenty. The reason why the citizens are suffering is from mismanagement and corruption.
@RodneyMccrea-h8n
@RodneyMccrea-h8n 7 месяцев назад
I pray for you an your kids am a single father working an was just denied public housing because of my income an don't make enough for regular rent went through human resources an was given a caseworker having received any good news yet even went on wink news 2 father caught in housing loophole am here we are no where to go it's sad children should be first priority
@RossHebrank-cc6tt
@RossHebrank-cc6tt 6 месяцев назад
​@@RodneyMccrea-h8nwell don't support repubcians cause they haven't done nothing really
@mikeshoemaker1909
@mikeshoemaker1909 2 года назад
SC state housing has a billboard on I 26 begging landlords with one years rent up front. Why don't you mention why no landlords want section 8?
@makeitso4793
@makeitso4793 Год назад
Young girls having too many kids should work. They are younger than me and stronger so put them to work and just get daycare for them. Old people and homeless along with vets and people with mental problems should get help. Homeless people should after getting a place be put to work as well. Just giving people stuff that they will not respect or care for because it cost them nothing needs to stop. I had hard times with no food to the point of passing out while looking for a job. Now I have more than enough and can help others. Life is not always easy but if you are young you can do something. Why depend all your life on hand outs and have more kids than you can manage by so nasty old thugs. Make better choices and stick through the hard parts because they teach you how to enjoy and hold on to the good parts.
@jolenestrubberg8897
@jolenestrubberg8897 Год назад
Alot of grandparents keep the kids because of the Benefits that's come with that! Where is the parents? Why cant she work? She shouldn't have the kid if she cant afford to raise him, not depending on others for a free handout! System riders entitlement!
@galegrazutis964
@galegrazutis964 Год назад
You probably heard the kid I'd her grandson. But the mother most likely is a junkie in prison or both.
@maryahb3014
@maryahb3014 Год назад
I feel like. If you can't afford it port out to a different state that holds your voucher limit. I wish they could match make people that don't mind living together and take both vouchers where they can afford the cost of living together. It would help a lot of people get off the streets. I know some people don't like living with people they don't know. But if they are in the same situations in the same locations. It could work. Because they would be able to afford something bigger and have more space for them to live together without any problems. Just my opinion.
@hilenaitscece6261
@hilenaitscece6261 Год назад
Yeah cause moving to different states all the time with people and resources u don't know helps especially as far as ur career ...😂 lol yall must be young. The reality is the ppl in power just need to make housing affordable 😅 and we just stop having babies until the blaming and greed stops because that's literally what it is. I was judged for asking how to get a raise and I actually ended up getting it but it'll still take me over 10 years probably to save for a place. It's possible don't get me wrong but its kind of counterintuitive considering I might be judged for sleeping on the streets endangering everyone's safety for a long time in order to do it. 😅
@TheAshMcG
@TheAshMcG Год назад
So if you need help, join a church, work several jobs? Why do people that don't pay in think the government and other hard working taxpayers should bail them out. It is a mentality of victimhood, seems to be an epidemic.
@ocean12
@ocean12 Год назад
This is what happens when people depend on the govt to take care of them.
@pamelawilliams9039
@pamelawilliams9039 2 года назад
This woman is so true . It’s so sad to see this happening to many families. I’ve come across so many homeless families this year, and most of these people have good paying jobs , and are in school to better themselves. Yet the doors are closed to find housing ,not only that the children suffer , from not understanding the stress of the situation they’re placed in. School starts in a week and these children are left out not knowing where they will be placed for the beginning of the new school year. If you don’t have an address how can you attend school ? If you can’t get the proper rest how can you function properly? If your homeless how could you feel safe? If your homeless how do you keep up with Higenes, how can have a proper balance meal . And most people that aren’t suffering they fear helping you because of the pandemic 😷. So now we have this problem with the youth suffering because of homelessness. Parents are being taken to jail ,children being separated because many that families are being torn apart . I’m curious to know,is history repeating itself? Is it time for a civil rights movement? Because standing back looking in it sure seams like it is 🤔 I remember reading a scripture from the Bible saying if anyone causes harm to a child they should have a rope tied around their neck with a brick tied to it and cast into the middle of the sea 🌊 so no children should ever suffer from evil causes .
@seventhcompactor1505
@seventhcompactor1505 Год назад
They should have built their careers before popping out kids .
@jes6161
@jes6161 Год назад
If you can’t feed a baby, then don’t have a baby. 🤷🏽‍♀️ MJ said it best.
@scrimbyscrimb
@scrimbyscrimb Год назад
​ @Seventhcompactor ​ @Jes how do you guys feel about abortion? just super curious.
@jes6161
@jes6161 Год назад
@@scrimbyscrimb I don’t care about abortion.
@seventhcompactor1505
@seventhcompactor1505 Год назад
@@scrimbyscrimb i would implement a policy where we paid women $500 per abortion Society is better served paying low income women to not give birth
@SteveAubrey1762
@SteveAubrey1762 Год назад
As a landloed, thank the county for raising taxes.thats the only reason i raise rents. Greedy fekkin government
@chrismanning1171
@chrismanning1171 Год назад
Where is the father?
@tinaspelta297
@tinaspelta297 2 года назад
The answer for all counties are rv they sell for cheap until the country gets this under control...
@lulilulu8172
@lulilulu8172 2 года назад
Lot fees are going up too lol
@wturner777
@wturner777 Год назад
@@lulilulu8172 Supply and demand.
@Milagrosupscale
@Milagrosupscale 2 года назад
Wtf this is out of control
@Baraka_Obama_
@Baraka_Obama_ 2 года назад
California just raised rent by 10%
@trinadye2259
@trinadye2259 2 года назад
I went through same thing I looked for six months before they expired my voucher
@seventhcompactor1505
@seventhcompactor1505 Год назад
So go get a job.
@jes6161
@jes6161 Год назад
Good. Get off your ass and work!
@scrimbyscrimb
@scrimbyscrimb Год назад
@@seventhcompactor1505 she never said that she doesn't have a job (:
@maryahb3014
@maryahb3014 Год назад
When that happens you supposed to get a extension and port out it's a lot of states take section 8 don't let these people fool u. They know everyone don't tear up they houses. And these landlords need that money every month. Since sometimes hard working people can also loose their jobs and gotta beg their land lord to work with them. Section 8 don't. They pay your rent in full and on time
@MMM-dq2cd
@MMM-dq2cd 2 года назад
This is what happens when you rely on the government. It's great she is taking care of her grandson and I feel bad for him. But with Jobama in office we are all suffering.
@winning3329
@winning3329 2 года назад
Then who can you rely on when rents are extremely expensive? Even people with degrees are having trouble affording rent.
@MMM-dq2cd
@MMM-dq2cd 2 года назад
@@winning3329 well how about people who own their home and are working hard and inflation Is hurting us at the store and gas pump. I have been in my home 24 years. Spend money wisely. No excuses. You get multiple jobs and pay for the increase in price. Simple.
@Alasuria
@Alasuria 2 года назад
Okay and it shouldn’t have to take people to get multiple jobs just to live the fuck is you talking about
@wturner777
@wturner777 Год назад
@@MMM-dq2cd Yeah but in these times home ownership is becoming more and more difficult, and not everyone qualifies. My goal is to become a homeowner, but I have a lot of catching up to do.
@MMM-dq2cd
@MMM-dq2cd Год назад
@@wturner777 hang in there. You will own your own home one day. The prices of homes are out of control. Just like in 2008. Then what happened alot of foreclosures. That's when you make your move. People here in Florida paying $430,000 for the same house I paid $90,000 for. It should have cost no more than 175 maybe $230,000. Good luck to you
@erijennifer
@erijennifer Год назад
Section 8 is suppose to be a HAND UP not a HAND OUT. There’s no way I’ll sit on this program FOREVER and not think for a moment if this will last. But I think different ain’t nobody coming to help you! You have to be responsible You. Everybody is struggling especially people who been working and do not qualify for ANYTHING.
@vutube379
@vutube379 5 месяцев назад
She looks young enough to work. I worked to age 66-1/2. What is her excuse?
@amyayers2502
@amyayers2502 Год назад
I am tired of these people wining and crying. They will wait 15 years on a list.For government help. And then complian it's not enough. How about the people who actually get up everyday and work. We can't get help cause we make to much money. It's barely enough. You telling me that in all the time you were waiting for the "voucher" you couldn't helped yourself.. please
@tashariley6858
@tashariley6858 Год назад
I totally agree tired of people having a family too they can't afford ridiculous they feel sooooo entitled. Get a job !!!!
@honeysmith7930
@honeysmith7930 2 года назад
Sure can't cuz I was forced to take in moving apartment I couldn't afford a house because the house and crisis in Jacksonville Florida they have moved someone here in Florida around the sentence his friends our son of Donald Trump which is not but he act like him and what they're doing here in Jacksonville Florida is that you do be edible but what they do is tell you to go find a place and all the places is 15 1600 a month and they give you this voucher for like $700 a month or $800 a month and you be stuck you can't find a place and I know another lady in that same predicament she has three kids she works and she's staying in a hotel it breaks my heart she can't find a place either me myself I was forced by housing to take apartment I'm not comfortable in the apartment I'm laying I'm disabled and I can't get any rest I'll be sick a lot and I don't know what else to do I can't afford to pay for rent that's why I got on the program cuz I'm disabled it really do need to be something done about it
@rons5319
@rons5319 2 года назад
Hint: get a job like the rest of the tenants.
@algernon5776
@algernon5776 2 года назад
What is the great DeSantis going to help homeless Floridians? What is doing to help children? Nothing he is a Clown 🤡
@altha-rf1et
@altha-rf1et 2 года назад
This is Federal problem AKA Biden not DeSantis
@saminaneen
@saminaneen 2 года назад
@@altha-rf1et Your UTube account will be suspended and banned, for you being RACIST & Misinformation Trollbot, Woketard
@algernon5776
@algernon5776 2 года назад
@@altha-rf1et your lack of knowledge is quite shocking but as a "simp" for DeSantis not surprising. What is your education level? Affordable housing is a local problem and both States and Cities pass public policies to address it. Please stop being ignorant and educate yourself.
@computron5824
@computron5824 2 года назад
@@altha-rf1et DeSantis has control over the local government therefore it is up to DeSantis to do something.
@altha-rf1et
@altha-rf1et 2 года назад
@@computron5824 AGAIN this is a Federal program
@rygarq2
@rygarq2 Год назад
It's over. You ain't need no man, remember. Winter has come ladies. Black guilt is over.
@galegrazutis964
@galegrazutis964 Год назад
BRILLIANTLY SAID MY MAN !!!
@lauriekepaa8464
@lauriekepaa8464 2 года назад
This is so so sad government needs to do better for section 8 tenants
@lulilulu8172
@lulilulu8172 2 года назад
You should let them stay with you
@rockynrobynbrand
@rockynrobynbrand 2 года назад
They need to raise their FMR across the country. I don't understand why it has to take so long for the bill to pass so they can get their funding.
@yankinwaoz
@yankinwaoz Год назад
Hey Landlords! Sign up. We offer less than market rates for rent. Who hoo! What's not to like? And that's not all! We also require you to adhere to our rules. Such as we don't have to pay for repairs or offer a security deposit. You aren't allowed to ever raise the rent. You can't evict the tenant. You can't decline to renew the lease. If your tentant choses to break something, then we don't have the pay you the rent and you can't do anything about it. Also, the tenant is going to bring all sorts of problems to your home by having heaps of "visitors" who never leave. Lots of parties and loud music too that makes your other tenants upset because they have to sleep becuase they have jobs. But this tenant doesn't work, so they can stay up all night partying because baby's daddy just got parole from prison.
@scrimbyscrimb
@scrimbyscrimb Год назад
HUD allows rent to be 90 - 110% of the fair market rate, stop crying lol.
@yankinwaoz
@yankinwaoz Год назад
@@scrimbyscrimb what HUD computes as fair market value is usually not close to reality.
@maryahb3014
@maryahb3014 Год назад
Not all of them pick your tenants wisely. You will not have that problem
@tinalove8197
@tinalove8197 Год назад
The problem is section 8 trying to live in upscale areas. Landlords in low-income areas will take them. Government is wrong for trying to put them in stable middle class areas.
@candycane9264
@candycane9264 2 года назад
The way this economy is going the landlords are gonna catch problems, even people with great jobs are not gonna pay for just any ol property. They are saying no, no , no til their property goes in foreclosure.
@sniffhairdontcare8069
@sniffhairdontcare8069 2 года назад
That's what happens when Democrats take control.
@lyfe680
@lyfe680 Год назад
That shirt says enough.
@abovebeyondandforever6571
@abovebeyondandforever6571 Год назад
Sorry ladies, the free ride is over, time to go to work!
@ScottHarrison-dz6tz
@ScottHarrison-dz6tz Месяц назад
Section 8 ..is bankrupt..1929 ...stock market crash ..get it straight
@vetinaalvarez4004
@vetinaalvarez4004 Год назад
Can’t she work to cover the rest ?
@smartypants6198
@smartypants6198 Год назад
Prob not. She looks young but pension is measly. You are required to pay 30% of your income, not rent. Lets say she finds a 2k apartment. Her voucher is 1500. Its guaranteed she can't come up with that
@wturner777
@wturner777 Год назад
@@smartypants6198 And being a single grandmother taking care of her grandson on a fixed income is no easy task.
@jimmyday9536
@jimmyday9536 Год назад
My paycheck has not increased enough to keep up with rising property taxes. Oh well.
@scrimbyscrimb
@scrimbyscrimb Год назад
you must be homeless then, right?
@patriciakirk2784
@patriciakirk2784 2 года назад
Florida is not the only place that doesn't have section 8 Albemarle North Carolina hasn't had section 8 since before Trump became president they're hardly is any place that you can get section 8 many towns that are having natural disasters don't have living places for people to live in like out in Kentucky and California doesn't have section 8 for all the homeless people and the homeless veterans it's not only veterans that deserve a place to live everyone deserves a place to live if they don't have a home lots of places not only the state of Florida is in a crisis
@saminaneen
@saminaneen 2 года назад
@Patrick Kirk,,, Remember, Follow the science, and don't be a conspiracy theorist,, It is like you said,,, Continue to wear 5 face diapers, and maintain a distance of 666 feet, just get vaccinated EVERYDAY, obey your MASTERS
@altha-rf1et
@altha-rf1et 2 года назад
Biden has been in office for 2 years what has he done? He was VP for 8 years what did he do then?
@saminaneen
@saminaneen 2 года назад
@@altha-rf1et Your UTube account will be suspended and banned, for you being RACIST & Misinformation Trollbot, Woketard
@saminaneen
@saminaneen 2 года назад
@@altha-rf1et Just remember Babyboy,,,It is like you said,,, Continue to wear 5 face diapers, and maintain a distance of 666 feet, just get vaccinated EVERYDAY, obey your MASTERS,
@guillermone1
@guillermone1 Год назад
I am a landlord, own multiple properties and recently had an available unit for rent. Nothing special about it, practically had a line outside waiting to sign a rental contract, with at least half dozen interested sec 8 voucher holders. Why would I even bother dealing with questionable tenants, and gov't bureaucracy, waiting for inspections, approvals or denials. When and if the rental market will unlikely ever turn around, I am not at all interested. Who needs 8 section headaches. By the way you can thank Biden and the democratic administration for creating inflation and a housing shortage by allowing millions of migrants to enter the country.
@sheliaiolawaters9265
@sheliaiolawaters9265 Год назад
I am 65 years old I am disabled what is service dog I have been homeless for 3 months now I also have a voucher and I moved from Broward County West Palm Beach County my income is very small I get disability it's only $914 a month search for me to find an apartment with my small-budget I can't go over 1300 I can barely find an efficiency for that and then when I do find something affordable they don't want to take my voucher I right now I'm with family members they are kind enough to give me a place to stay with me and my dog but I have health issues I need a place of my own I looked high and low for somewhere to go I'm running out of options I need help is there someone out there to help me find a place to live
@TheMotherDucker
@TheMotherDucker Год назад
Good luck. Leave the state, most people have to.
@tashariley6858
@tashariley6858 Год назад
Good people need to figure what they can afford and not rely on the feds for their livelihood stop having children you can't raise on your own !!!!!!!
@tiffanyjones7702
@tiffanyjones7702 2 года назад
This is happening in Tallahassee Florida to
@wturner777
@wturner777 Год назад
It's happening all over Florida. Homelessness is becoming more visible in Pensacola and Panama City.
@jaeeluv
@jaeeluv 2 года назад
LISTEN!!! I have a voucher that I CONNOT use! This is awful 😢.. God has a plan 🙏🏿
@jes6161
@jes6161 Год назад
God’s plan is for you to work. 😂
@maryahb3014
@maryahb3014 Год назад
You have to port out to another state. A lot of people take those vouchers you have to do the research.
@cynthiaarnold4739
@cynthiaarnold4739 2 года назад
Being able to have a place to live somewhere try working that program should only be for a year
@maryahb3014
@maryahb3014 Год назад
Landlords got watch tim leak
@worldwideveteran
@worldwideveteran Год назад
How is that I don't need no man doing for you women
@greyfox8310
@greyfox8310 Год назад
😆
@back2the80s
@back2the80s Год назад
Bitter incel alert
@candycane9264
@candycane9264 2 года назад
Landlords are so evil they are actually enjoying this situation, thinking they have no karma
@francinamitchell4214
@francinamitchell4214 2 года назад
They are very messy
@angrycannibal6625
@angrycannibal6625 2 года назад
I think it’s evil to make ignorant comments. Everyone is going up, do you think landlords get a break from that? Insurance has doubled, taxes are up by more than 25%, supply costs are up, go price a can of paint. Have you heard of the Fed raising interest rates. They have to pay more for their mortgages but charge the tenants the same price? WOULD YOU PAY MORE FOR YOU MORTGE AND LET SOMEONE RENT FROM YOU FOR LESS THAN YOUR PAYMENTS SO YOU WOULD BE HOMELESS….I don’t think so.
@SDALLE99
@SDALLE99 2 года назад
Do you rent? cuz when you get evicted, I’ll throw a party for your landlord 🎉
@seventhcompactor1505
@seventhcompactor1505 Год назад
Wrong. Never rent to low income scum.
@MyThoughtzAndOpinionz
@MyThoughtzAndOpinionz Год назад
That’s not true. Many landlords are complaining about damaged property, and are forced accept rent prices below the market value. Most landlords are not rich.
@FrequentFlyer_MIA
@FrequentFlyer_MIA 2 года назад
Cmon Dems! do something for your people! Grandpa Joe are you there?!?!?!?!
@computron5824
@computron5824 2 года назад
Housing is up to Florida's govenor
@wturner777
@wturner777 Год назад
@@computron5824 Exactly, who is a Republican and doesn't believe in rent control.
@fluffy2749
@fluffy2749 Год назад
why does she need a 3 bedroom for 2 people?
@LetArtsLive
@LetArtsLive Год назад
No wonder there are so many homeless people
@herculesh1907
@herculesh1907 Год назад
Where is the son father??
@wturner777
@wturner777 Год назад
Ask the grandmother who is taking care of the little one.
@edwinacuyler9237
@edwinacuyler9237 Год назад
I’m in lake county in same situation
@maryahb3014
@maryahb3014 Год назад
Port out to a different state.
@christopherbaranet2388
@christopherbaranet2388 2 года назад
Why are you having children ,if you have no means to support them? Oh that's what Section 8 is for.
@wturner777
@wturner777 Год назад
Well for a single grandmother with a grandkid and no one else was available to take care of the kid, that's understandable.
@annabolster6906
@annabolster6906 2 года назад
South of pasco
@superior120v5
@superior120v5 Год назад
But does she have a job? Work like the rest of us
@maryahb3014
@maryahb3014 Год назад
Some of them do have jobs. If you loose a job they pay your whole rent for u. Until you find another one don't be fooled about what u see.
@ericthomas8898
@ericthomas8898 Год назад
This interview sds fishy. Just got an apartment for that price.
@eugenebraxtonamericasmoste8979
Give the kid back to his birth parents and get a job or two and support yourself for a change Then you’ll have something..in yourself, that you can, truly be proud of. .laying around begging for help..lol
@mariomejia1701
@mariomejia1701 Год назад
Mahsa is a beautiful woman ❤
@annabolster6906
@annabolster6906 2 года назад
Try mamatee county
@annabolster6906
@annabolster6906 2 года назад
Try counties south ofpasco
@altha-rf1et
@altha-rf1et 2 года назад
or even other state if need be better to live in another state then homeless in Florida
@saminaneen
@saminaneen 2 года назад
@@altha-rf1et Your UTube account will be suspended and banned, for you being RACIST & Misinformation Trollbot, Woketard
@kelly3887
@kelly3887 2 года назад
I think you mean north of Pasco. It gets more expensive going south.
@wwherbert007
@wwherbert007 Год назад
Not true
@themadatheist1976
@themadatheist1976 2 года назад
Get a job and stop spitting out children you can't afford.
@om-nj2hw
@om-nj2hw 2 года назад
Jobs haven't kept up,pay wise, with the cost of living. And the children are already born, they don't deserve to suffer, and if you believe in less kids being born you need to be pro choice
@saminaneen
@saminaneen 2 года назад
@@om-nj2hw Remember, Follow the science, and don't be a conspiracy theorist,, It is like you said,,, Continue to wear 5 face diapers, and maintain a distance of 666 feet, just get vaccinated EVERYDAY, obey your MASTERS
@kristiemiller4752
@kristiemiller4752 2 года назад
She’s the grandma! Taking care of her grandchild!
@saminaneen
@saminaneen 2 года назад
@@kristiemiller4752 Your comments are irrelevant, no facts are in evidence, you are cautioned about "improper thinking", and all your comments will be stricken from the record, thanks for playing, you lose
@jairomachado9038
@jairomachado9038 2 года назад
Facts work and stop looking for handouts
@redoctober1
@redoctober1 Год назад
She'd rather be a victim on the local news than just move into a two bedroom. Nice job.
@38snubnose
@38snubnose 2 года назад
Oh well
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