Floyd Mayweather let loose on rival Manny Pacquiao on Tuesday, declaring he wasn't scared to face the Filipino star and again questioning Pacquiao's quick ascension through weight classes.
@Jacob Sirak LOL, try to box with injured shoulder rotatorcuff and comeback here. And Manny injury is legit did you do some research if his injury is legit? His doctor in his surgery is the same personal doctor of Kobe Bryant.
Jacob Sirak clinching lmao he got out mastered and I’m not even a fan of Floyd .. pac man is just overrated lost to all the good boxers . Eric morales , Marquez , Timothy Bradley , Floyd etc .. fought margarito to get a belt and never went back to defend his belt in that division.
@Jacob Sirak whaaat?? Did you watch the whole fight and compare to his other fight? You know Manny is hundred perfect that time, yeah first 3 round is looks normal but you can see after 4 round his boxing performance is not that good he cant even lean using his foot his punches is not that balance.
This vid is hilarious. Everything Floyd said was perfectly valid, but the way he presented it made it hilarious to listen to. Gotta love how high-pitched his voice gets.
In facts steroid dont give you a big head, but steroids will make your breast larger than normal and your hair will be loss, like Mayweather Jr happened to his body.
@@engr.songjihyo2022 Steroids don't make the skull grow but HGH makes skull and bones grow thicker and bigger. Pacquiao was on steroids and 100% on HGH
Where was Pacquiao in '96, '97, '98? He's beating guys in Asia, knocking out most opponents he's faced, and a Flyweight champion! You're American and have better opportunities, that's the difference.
Exactly why would he of fought a guy who’s not top tier yet, that’s what I call a pointless fight, it wasn’t worth his money and wasn’t any money. And for the head thing, it’s called getting punched in the head like fr fr. Also what would doing PEDs do for his kids looking up to him.
@@Cam.manisy what do you mean by 'not top tier'? Not famous only right? Coz Pacquiao is already a world champion in '98 and if that's not top tier to you, IDK what is. However, you're totally missing the point. I emphasized FLYWEIGHT champion. Manny and Floyd are not even on the same division. Totally agree with PED, what would Floyd's descendants and fans think that he's on something? 🤷🏻
BahoWetpu and guess what? Floyd and Manny came up in weight very similar..I find a table witch compare how the came up in weight from 106 to 147. The table compare age by age weight gain and they're pretty similar....Floyd is a joke...
carlos torres Difference is Manny was getting Ko'd at flyweight to coming upto 140+ and walking through guys. Floyd was dominating and winning at those early weights like he's doing now.
millerhouse0 Yea, He was KO as a kid fighting with old ass men...Anyways took over a decade before Manny came up to 140....106 at 16 YEARS OLD....140 at 29 YEARS OLD...Walking through guys?...Funny because Floyd use to praise him until he became a treat.... Manny power was there all the time...Manny power max out at 140-144, that's why you don't see more ko's from Manny...Cotto ko came at 145.... Floyd doubt himself in 09-2010.....
@@aboriginalsrising1492 he wanted manny to take the test, leave freddy roach then join tmt 😂 clearly didnt wanna fight asking man to jump through loops
@@sportzzstoryzz1281 Pacquiao was chasing. Floyd for 5 years. And all Floyd did was duck and Dodge. Excuse's after excuse's. No lie go ahead look that up!!!
@@christiancarranza1003 pacqio had his chance to fight Floyd Floyd offered him for 2 years manny was on steroids so he denied for 2 years mayweather was done wasting his time he moved on. Ain’t no ducking and dodging mayweather already offered him. I would’ve waited as well. Make 30 million from pacqio fight then or wait and make 200 million. Floyd not finna waste his time with someone that’s on steroids. Common sense like he said it’s common sense.
@@christiancarranza1003 can’t duck and dodge if you offered to fight first. Now you outcome would have been the same all boxers say mayweather is better then pacqio you think you know more then a boxer?? All boxers who faced both day mayweather was better and predicted mayweather would win.
This is why Maywaether didn't want to fight Pacquiao in his prime. And why he waited until he was older and hurt Mayweather tested positive for PEDs 3 times
Floyd is 2 years older than Pacquiao. It actually wouldn’t have benefited him to stall the fight considering Pacquiao was younger than him. Come on man
Please state the instances Mayweather tested positive for PEDs. How did he test positive and was never suspended? Mosely tested positive for PEDs and he was suspended. But you can't find one instance where Floyd was ever suspended or tested positive for any banned or illegal substance
@@whatwhat9004 it absolutely benefits him. 28-32yo Pacquiao was throwing 2000 punches a fight. Mayweather didn't want that smoke as he clearly stated in this video. Pac's prime was 28-32 so it absolutely benefit Mayweather to wait till pac was 36. He ducked Pacquiao for almost 10 years accusing him of steroids but pac never tested positive once.
When everyone thought Pacquiao and Mayweather were pretty much done with a contact to fight they set the odds in Vegas to 8-5 in favor of Pacquiao. Usually doesn't happen if everyone in boxing thought he would win easily.
The truth is, you were never a fan. You've hated Mayweather since Pacquiao came about and since Manny.. your hatred for that man Floyd Mayweather jr. Has become permanent.
Yes, and Manny can understand and speak English on a level that is INSANELY good for someone that learnt it later in life. As a person who's friend is a language teacher, you'd be surprised how hard it is to learn English.
after the hatton.cotto and finally margarito fight floyd didnt want anything to do with paqcuiao...i mean look at the video when he says "he decided to just walk through cotto" u can see the fear in his eyes when he says that...and i dont blame him...
No I think his logic kicked in, after I watched those fights it was clear to me he was on roids. You don’t jump weight and keep your speed,footwork, and strength. That been known in boxing for years
Delane Howard I SMELL A BIT OF HYPOCRISY HERE.... SO FLOYD IS A PROUD AMERICAN NOW?... BECAUSE ON A RECENT VIDEO HE USED THE "RACE CARD"... HE WAS SAYING THAT HE HAS THREE STRIKES AGAINST HIM (OUTSPOKEN, RICH, AND "BLACK").... SO THEN? HE IS A PROUD AMERICAN?... BECAUSE PROUD AMERICANS DO NOT HATE WHITES...... BEING THAT WHITEY FOUNDED THE COUNTRY... AND THE FORE FATHERS WERE WHITE...... AND THE CONSTITUTION WAS WRITTEN BY WHITES.... CONTRADICTION...... PACQUIAO IS NOT AN AMERICAN..... BUT HE IS BELOVED BY AMERICA MORE THAN THIS PERSON... AND IT AINT CUZ HE BLACK HOMEY.... ITS HE'S DISGUSTING CHARACTER.... AND MANY BLACK PEOPLE DO NOT "WANT" TO UNDERSTAND THIS.
Woo woo now ***** slow slow your roll now I wasn't referring to floyd being a proud American or whatever, what I was referring to floyd saying his health is more important. So you can turn your Caps off now lol.
Define stupid you f****** dumb racist peace of nothing *****! Of course it doesn't have anything to do with this post but it has something to do with you "Little Buddy"
he has genuine concern and he has every right to do so. one might call it paranoia, scared etc but he only he knows what he is battling weather it may be his health, his legacy,his team or loosing himself on that canvas we don't know. I respect his level of skill and dedication. to think what drives a man 17 years hungry having all the riches he has and not getting lazy its hard its very hard no one single person or a team has such a long wining streak to my very little knowledge. He puts his health before anything i admire that and he is right that only he and his family will carry the burden if he suffers later in life just as they enjoy the riches now. I admire that he is trying to prevent being a burden to himself or his family in the future and trying his best to see them happy. As a fan of boxing it was a treat watching you fight thank you. And if i were to choose between flyod and manny i would never settle down for either one. for me they are both great in their own unique ways. all the best for your fight on may 2nd
Fast forward a few years and, generally all the way done growing at 24, Pacquiao is able to add 30 pounds to his frame and now walk through welterweights without any 'help'? About as same as Floyd deciding, after turning 24 in 2002, to go from lightweight to full middleweight, walking through shots from other full on middles, without losing any of his speed and also picking up a middleweight punch. Would make absolutely no sense.
So you cant pack on muscle after you turn 24 ? Anyone can pack on 24 pounds of muscle in 2 years with the right diet and training. Everyone knows Floyd ducked Pac Man in his prime. And you said it right, Floyd waited until the playing field was leveled when Pac Man was out of his prime. Once Floyd was out of his prime he chose to fight Conor Mcgregor, who never had a professional boxing match in his life. The Fake Goat.
because its obvious that pac in his earlier carreer was gettin knockdown and out by smaller weight class punchers. now all of a sudden he goess to bigger divisions with bigger heavier people and isnt getting knock down or out? and knocking bigger guys out? that makes no since
@@Amb252 okay tell me Pacquiao is a foreign fighter to issue an alien u think americans would even let that slide? I mean he is a superstar things u do bad would definitely come out now why it hasn't? So ur telling me american people betraying their countryman just for the sake of manny? He got knocked out once when he was malnourished no budget for food 103 pounder he cheats the weight by putting weights in his pockets you don't know how hard manny struggled when he was 20-1 he is training without decent amount of food and yet here u are discrediting the man who worked himself so hard just to get where he is at good job and you don't even know he is going broke here in our country because he still gives money to people even lost an election why can u even make fake shts on a guy that has done nothing to you i hope u can see how manny is struggling to help people til this day
That was real though, how cotto cant knock down shane mosley but manny did, shane was rarely knocked down and when it did happen it was by someone big with a lot of power behind their punches
@@jackashford8881 Errol spence jr ducked a 43 year old , 5 foot 5 , 2 year layoff pacman LMFAOOO BAHHAHAHAHAHHA HAHAHAHAHA AWW YOU MAD??!! BAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH HAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA AWW YOU MAD??!! ERROL THE ROIDS SPENCE DUCKED A 43 YEAR OLD PACMAN BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AWW YOU MAD?? BAHAHAHAHAHHAH MUAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHHHHHhahahahahahahahahahahaahhhahahahaha ahhahahahahaha hahhahahahaahahhaahHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHAHAHHAHAAAAAA
@@oooooofburger4232 lmao, You don't have to be a boxer to analyze who is the better fighter. Boxers who predicts boxing matches always gets the wrong prediction every time. OH YEAH ALOT. LoL
If your not scared then why don't you just fight Pacquiao like cotto, mosley, margaretto and other fighters did? "I mean it's common sense!" "c'mon man, c'mon man" lol
Pac does not have knockout power now because he's moved up in weight classes and gets older. All his opponents in past 5 years have been taller, strong, longer reach and bigger.
@@gabrielesquaratti5709 FLoyd fans make claims like he there to see yet never able to proof anything its just sad their idol got caught using banned IV while Manny record still clear now cry louder
IM A RICH COWARD - FLOYD MAYWEATHER And if im such a coward then why u wanna watch me then? i dont wanna watch NO coward and yall know for a fact i aint scared - Floyd Mayweather You can live a healthy life like u living right now or u can walk bent over wit a limp and have all the money ,ill say take it all back - Floyd Mayweather
No further alibis Floyd, PED or no PED or whatever preconditions.. Challenge Pacquiao now for a big fight. The world wants to see this the soonest possible time.
without the steroids he looked very ordinary and whacked out, all his future opponents should insist he take random tests just to be sure he not using boosters!
@@jakedooley7530 floyd on roids? Lol floyd is the last dude to be on roids even tho i dont believe that pac was on roids its evidence that he is not floyd
@@181kg6 c'mon now I guarantee you almost every boxer has taken them at some point in their career including Pacquiao and Mayweather, canelo does them too
@@jakedooley7530 what point in floyd career do you think he was on roids because personally anything floyd did was outta hard work the man trains even when he doesnt have a fight and workout 7 hours a day and run 12 miles at least floyd is a hard worker and that goes the same with canelo o dont think he uses roids either
@@181kg6 I don't know what point in his career, maybe he did maybe he didn't, who knows, Im not saying floyd isn't a great boxer he definitely is the best boxer of this era and yeah he does train hard, you see enough shit on RU-vid of all these boxers doing em, not just floyd, Pacquiao also, I could be wrong tho
@josh2x226 yes it did. You gotta look at the timeliness. Freddie Roach did an interview when Alex Ariza got fired, and said he was making Manny a special shake every morning, and wouldn't tell him what was in it. After Ariza left, Manny never gotanother knockout. He went from KO'ing everyone to not getting any knockouts instantly.
@@jamarmoore9548 Broooo what??? first how that prove anything " Manny never gotanother knockout." even tho u dont need rocket science to realize that as a person gets older their KO percentage gets lower even Mohammad Ali literally every fighter You'll cry abt this fact but even your Idol Mayweather he had only one KO after 2007 and two if you want to count Conor Mcgregor lol like how u come up with this sh!t also one more point so even you realize how lame your points are if he was getting less Knockouts then why didnt Floyd fight then LMAO
Longevity means Drugs LMFAO yet never failed any Drug or Blood Test what is he Magician lol I hope you know even with all the money Floyd has at the end he faced defamation and lost as well, the fact that only prove Floydroid fans have cause Floyd said it LOL sometimes i wonder how u guys get the AUDCITY when he himself get caught using banned IV you cant make this shit up.
@@paulturndupschmidt5563 Hey my guy, I love Money May he is undeniably the greatest to ever do it, but he did avoid Pacquiao in his prime. Floyd didn't want that smoke.
Floyd just wants a fair fight.. take the test and rumble.. I mean its clear why he can take the test now... but why not back in 2010? Floyd has been fighting at an elite level since he started and like he said it took him years to get here. if you look at Floyd's early fights at lighter weight classes he was knocking people out too. but for normal people when you move up in weight you lose speed or power. Floyd lost power and was unable to knock out the heaver dudes. manny jumped weights like it was nothing. and didn't lose speed or power. and was dropping dudes at 147 that other 147 fighters couldn't even drop. also roach has recently said that he dosnt know what ariza was giving manny. because ariza was giving manny a mixed drink every morning.. not trying to shit on manny but he may have been on something and didn't even know it. Floyd is in a class of his own. it dosnt matter if he fought manny tomorrow and beat him. his haters will just say "well he waited until manny slowed down and lost power. name one weight class Floyd was in where he didn't fight the best in that weight class.. name one undefeated fighter that Floyd has ran from.. you can't. Floyd has given so many people their first loss that its laughable.
i think i'll have to congratulate Floyd for doing a good job..he really made you believe all the shits that he spreads..all the words from your comment actually came from your boy..you've just repeat it..indeed floyd is great,,,in convincing people..LMAO..
bhogz zantilmo yea cause Floyd made roach say that he didn't know if manny was on something in the past?? you sound really silly because you know everything that I've said is all facts. point out a lie in what I said.
bsmi1361 We are talking about today. If they weight the same and both past test, and hell they are both considered almost old men in boxing terms then why not fight. Please stop using excuses of what may or may not have been YEARS ago. Manny is a good fighter (great fighter in fact) and Floyd is scared end of story.
What Floyd to mention is that him and Manny moved up in weight at the same pace, but Manny stayed at 130, even though he was coming into the ring at 140+. Plus Manny's career covers a wider spread of weight, because he started at a younger age. Floyd also weighed 106 at that age.
I was 115 pounds when i was in 12th grade i way almost 200 now its called growing up to a adult not steroids . He sounds dumb . Steroids dont make your skull get bigger. I velieve 50cent i dont think he can read
All he asked for was a drug test, if you’re a professional fighter and you’re clean that’s not a problem. The fact that Pacquiao ran from it for years shows either 1) he was scared of Floyd 2) he was scared of a drug test or 3) both. You don’t have to like Floyd, and you can believe in their primes Floyd would’ve lost but you can’t deny that it was fishy that Manny refused the drug test.
I could show you a picture of myself I fought at 160 Then next year at 190 I just ate a lot and my body grew Nech,back,shoulders And I didn’t take nothing ilegal.
apparently adding muscle is a crime. Pacquaio always had the punching power. Even in the low divisions thats how he made a name for himself and got all his KOS. ask Roy jones JR, it is definitely possible to bring up the power with the weight.
Hard work is one thing, but Manny starting before Floyd and just reaching stardom around the same time if not later does raise questions. Also In every combat sport a jump in weight is a very serious career move. To do so seamlessly is doable for maybe the next weight up, but to do so seamlessly up as many as Manny has raises questions to be sure. As a fan of Manny, I hope that he is a pure fighter, but to walk through men heavier than him is definitely questionable. Time ravages us, we are not supposed to get faster and stronger as we grow old. Law of nature..
Facts bro an I seen Pacman in person. I can't believe he tiny. I mean really tiny and slim. I could beat his ahh fr but I ain't not a pro boxer. Pacman is tiny dude how can he blaze through bigger dudes easy, ya feel me?
Just how many times do we hear the issue with strength training and movement or weight issues in boxing? This could easily be a stay in your lane moment. My Son mirrors Pacquiao in size and in less time has gone from 120 lbs to 180lbs. It took Pacquiao some 10 years to go from flyweight to welterweight. That's a mere 35 lbs or 3.5 lbs per year. My Son owns a gym, and mixing supplements into shakes, protein powders, etc will put on muscle weight. Add in effective strength training and you could easily replicate what we saw with Pacquiao's progression through weight divisions without compromising agility. Now, I'm not saying that Manny wasn't on the juice, only he knows that, but I am saying that Mayweather doesn't complete know what he's talking about because his strength training likely focused on complimenting his movement versus bulking up. They're different, but you can certainly add muscle and still maintain agility. Just look at the NFL. My Son did fail at maintaining agility, but at a high athletic level there's plenty of proof that an athlete can maintain speed, flexibility, and agility while putting on muscle.
its possible that at this point floyd is waiting to fight pacquiao in his last ever fight in may 2015. itd be a record breaking fight not only cause its mayweather vs pacquiao but its floyds goodbye to the ring
Floyd is absolutely right. His head did grow, and his performance changed pretty quickly. I believe Pac is on peds, and so is Tyson Fury. Fury was penalized for taking them, and caught cheating. He doesn't beat the 10-count, but he's a champ? I don't even watch or respect the sport anymore because it's not organic. To hell with it.
Floyd sayin' Pacquiao's head was small back then and got bigger because of roids. Meanwhile, Floyd looks like a bubble head now than he was back then in his olympic days.
@@minimike8923 Anyway, Scientifically speaking, human bones grow thicker, stronger and adapts to a pressure that forces damage, according to Wolff's law. And that is why boxers grow bigger heads and thicker cheekbones.
"Cotto can't knock down Mosley but he can? 🤨" LOOOOL 😂 I always knew something was up with Pacquiao's whole career after the first Marquez fight. Moved up waaaay too quick. If you were going to still going to continue boxing for this long in your career, you should have at least made it less obvious and space out your bouts in weight divisions and not move up in weight so quick. Canelo's in the same topic too. Hey I like both fighters, but it's like Mayweather stated, "I just want to be on an even playing field", and as a fan, I do too.
Hahahah you stupid fan. Steroids will make person weak in his later year like floyd in his body cannot take a punishment anymore, infact steroids will make person bigger breast and hair loss like what happened to floyd yeah its true Mayweather Jr took steroids 100 percent its obvious like he took 750ml IV saline in MayPac to flush the PEDS in his body🤣.
@@elel2608 what do you mean? Floys fought in 4 weight divisions in a span of a 20 year career in fought once in the 154 division against oscar its pretty reasonable
We cry about certain athletes (base ball, track) using PED/HGH because they can artificially break records, but shun an athlete (boxing) who are concerned about their personal health... smh
All I get from that is 'I won't fight Pacquiao because he will put me in a wheelchair and I admit I am scared to fight him. He is on another level to every boxer with his superhuman speed and power. Yes, I am a coward but I got loads of money so I don't care. I want to live. If I fight Pacquiao, I will not live.'
I find no longer ago a table wich compare age and weight between Manny and Floyd and they look pretty similar in the way they both came from 106 to 147...Floyd see something on Paquiao that he don't like is just my opinion and what I feel...5 years and no fight is just crazy...
@@mrspitterofthefire6836 simple cause he doesn't have a good coach and conditioner, he lives in a 3rd world country while Floyd even if he's not rich at a young age is living in a 1st world country so the advancement of training and conditioning Is on another level.
@@momongasama4391 lmao man he had Freddy roach who is a world class trainer its Freddy and the peds that made paq Floyd if he ever used peds it's really moot because Floyd wasn't destroying fighters by vicious ko who are physically bigger no Floyd evolved his boxing and did what needed to be done to be a champion and I do not blame Floyd for not wanting to fight a ped fueled paq and risk a severe injury or cte from the dude Floyd wanted that paq fight it was paq that backed out when Floyd's team requested a blood test paq got so angry he threatened law suit paq is a cheater nothing else he isn't shit but a bum who used peds.
Lol ridiculous statement, were you even in age of watching boxing during this time. Mayweather was ducking pac until he got ko by martinez. Pac sent him many contract with advantageous clauses and drug test whenever he wants. But I mean low iq people dont get iq magically im probably wasting my time
hes really talking about manny being 98-100 lbs because of malnutrition Pac was literally boxing so he doesnt starve. the fear in his voice as he tries to come up with every excuses he could think of. Manny would have ate him up both their prime and if Mayweather ever fought him again
@@gabrielesquaratti5709he was literally scared of him, did u watch this video? Lol, back in 09 he was requesting all types of shi for a fight instead of maning up with the Pound-4-Pound King, lol
@@Bankai_Musashi1he believed he cheated and I believe him too, it kind of gives me shades of messi and ronaldo, messi is mayweather and ronaldo is pacquaio theirs nothing he can do to be better than him sorry it’s just facts sorry if it hurts your feelings
I knew it all along. I always said that Pretty Boy assumes Pac is on stuff because what he does in the ring. Just cause he couldnt finish or destroy Cotto puts fear in him that Pac easily did.
You don't go up weight classes with six pack abs under a year. .. multiple times. Look at any boxer, MMA fighter etc. when they go up a weight class within a year it's mostly fat and they'd lose their abs if they had any
He made his fans believed his accusations without proof. His judgements are based on his emotions. No wonder he had his ex knocked out. He’s no way near Ali and Kobe. True legends inspires people.
I'm pretty sure all true Legends are based on their WINS and he's never lost so... I know it doesn't apply because it's Mayweather but if it was anybody else you would agree so just stop the hate
Lol Judah was in his prime when Floyd faced him, Cotto was in his prime, Ortiz was 27 so of course, Hatton was in his prime (undefeated) ko victory over castillo. DLH was #1 fighter at 154lbs, had height advantage, reach advantage, chose the glove size and ring size. Mosley was ranked #1 at 147, just knocked out Margacheato, #3 p4p. Marquez tkoed Juan Diaz and Joel Cassamayor, #2 p4p, #1 fighter at 135. None of them were damaged goods all of them were at high points in their career.
We heard the same nonsense about Floyd "being scared" to fight Shane Mosely. Mosely is known to have used steroids in the past. To Mosely's credit, he agreed to random tedting as you saw on 24/7. After that, the fight was on. It is Mayweather's responsibility to protect his health. Doesn't he have a family to raise after boxing? Fighting people who are cheating is not the way to protect your future.
Alot of people questions Manny's skills, they say he use PED, but no one asked why Floyd has no determined weight at fight night. All you see is ???. Better check the tale of the tape of every floyd mayweathers recent fights if you want proof.
Question...has Manny ever tested positive for anything suspicious?Also,does anyone have first hand knowledge of Manny doing this?And I'm curious to anyone who knows---how strict is testing?And how often?How difficult would it be to take steroids throughout a highly visible career and get away with it completely?
Manny has never tested positive for any drugs. NEVER. No incident relating him to drugs, no hearsays whatsoever. He was accused solely because of his sheer power and the way he destroyed bigger guys. Come on now! manny has been a power puncher since he was a kid. He's really used to putting people to sleep. Its not like he got no power in the beginning then he got stronger, nah nothing like that. Floyd was just scared.
Nah he just never tested Foh he a cheater mf period it’s funny how it isn’t this energy for Barry bonds who we never seen test dirty lmao y’all just really be hating on mfs and be happy to have a topic to hate them about manny a mf cheater period his ass was juicing never took the test cause he was mf lying an still got that ass beat by Floyd flat Tf out
Probably not that difficult with the right help. Lance Armstrong was juiced on testosterone, HGH and EPO and not once did he fail a test. He was forced legally to admit it, and he being hunted by the best drug tester that existed and STILL couldn't catch him. Obviously there's ways around a drug test if u know how to beat it
I was a size 6 7/8s hat at 17 and now wear a 7 1/4 20 years later. Using head growth as some kind of proof of PED use is completely moronic. Heads and body parts grow as you get older.