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Fly Fishing for KOKANEE in Connecticut

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Episode #78
Kokanee, a landlocked form of sockeye salmon, are a truly bizarre find in the waters of Connecticut. After all, New England is a couple thousand miles east of most native kokanee populations within the Pacific coast states and provinces of North America. In this episode, I grab my trusty 3wt and bring you along to do some fly fishing for these unique salmonids right here in the Nutmeg State. And along way, hopefully I can help vanquish some common myths about these fish.
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"River of the Kokes", Connecticut
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@Flytyerman-ec6vq 2 месяца назад

I remember as a kid (60's) we watched thousands of Kokanee migrate past the West family bridge on Shenipsit Lake in Tolland. They were all migrating up river to spawn.

@liamwilson12345 26 дней назад

I had no idea

@freddyfishing-ct7819 10 месяцев назад

Live in Connecticut love fishing

@freddyfishing-ct7819 10 месяцев назад

Very nice Chanel my friend

@willsleavin477 Год назад

I got my pb Kokanee at that tiny stream flowing behind West Hill pond too. It was 15.5

@ConnecticutAngler Год назад

That’s a nice-sized specimen!

@stephenturgeon7196 Год назад

Awesome video 😎 it’s weird how the fish don’t get spooked by your shadow

@ConnecticutAngler Год назад

Indeed, it’s not what we’d think of as typical behavior for any fish. But when these salmon are in spawning mode, many typical instincts of self-preservation really do begin to fall by the wayside. That’s not to say they’ll let you pick them up by hand, but they definitely lose a great deal of spookiness.

@dragonbob2924 Год назад

Nice video, I actually targeted and caught my first few kokanee this october. I was fishing the deep hole in the lake outflow was able to observe how they reacted very well. A few observations: They did not need a perfect drift, many times we just left our lures in front faces and they hit it like that, when drifting they let it go by, while a few fish slammed the eggs/jigs we were using most just very slowly came up and mouthed it, I think that they are trying to pop the egg membrane with their teeth. Our best lures were heavily scented eggs, and plain gold trout mangnet jigheads, some people used orange and pink trout magnets with luck as well, they swipe at jerkbaits too, castmasters seem to only snag fish. Spilt Milt Productions has a video on east coast kokanee where he fishes this lake, goes into the history too. Basically our kokanee are tiny, when they first put them into the lakes they grew to be 2-3lbs. Wish it was still like that. Great video, can't wait for the next one.

@ConnecticutAngler Год назад

I’ll have to look the vid up that you mention. I would certainly agree that a convincing drift is very low on the priority list when targeting spawning kokes, which is very counter-intuitive for those that haven’t targeted them before and are trying to apply general trout fishing principles. And for that matter, the fact that people can literally stand right over these fish for hours without them actively fleeing is another unexpected characteristic. It takes them literally being hooked before they are willing to expend even an ounce of energy for self-preservation. With regard to size, I’ve heard similar. The state record is 2.8lbs/17.5” after all, which is a real chunker! Certainly quite a bit bigger than any I’ve hooked before.

@mattgauthier7216 Год назад

Thanks for not blowing the spot. I love fishing this spot every fall, and the angling pressure is never too too bad. Cool to see you get them on the egg pattern!

@Adam-ke6uh Год назад

Love your content man, don’t stop doing videos!

@deandutkiewicz5739 Год назад

The most different fishing I have seen from you excellent keep it up.I'm your number one fan

@ConnecticutAngler Год назад

Hey thanks for watching! Trying to mix it up here and there. I actually spent quite a bit of time trying for saltwater species in autumn this year, but a video never came of it. I’m not exactly a skilled saltwater angler as yet, but maybe next year I’ll finally enjoy some video-worthy success.

@bruceallen6377 Год назад

I had no idea Kokanee were in Connecticut! Awesome channel, Thanks!

@ryanmowrey5550 Год назад

I caught one in Twin Lakes a few years back . First time trolling . Awesome fish .

@ConnecticutAngler Год назад

I’d like to give the non-spawners a go one of these days. TOTALLY different approach than seen in this vid!

@davemurawski5598 Год назад

Damn good video Justin! Very informative and well put together!

@georgesly 5 дней назад

I caught a few as a boy in Washington State. Locally they were known as silver trout. They will feed except when they're spawning. I don't think you made that clear. At any other time of the year you can catch them with anything trout will take.

@ConnecticutAngler 5 дней назад

Appreciate the feedback. I will say, only 50 seconds into the video the text on-screen says “During the spawn, they lose the desire to eat altogether…”. But yeah, on reviewing the rest of the video, I see now that I was always sort of speaking about Kokanee fishing in the specific context in which the video was taking place (targeting them during the spawn in autumn) and didn’t explicitly clarify that, which makes it sound like I’m making broader statements about Kokanee behavior than I was intending. Indeed, during the summer on the few lakes that have Kokanee here in Connecticut, lots of folks of jig or troll for them in the deeper water using an array of different offerings; it’s a totally different ball game.

@FarmyJoe76 Год назад

I absolutely love the production style of your vids. And you seem like a class person all the way. It’d be an honor to run into you on our local waterways someday.

@ArtisticAngler Год назад

Man, this is making me REAL curious, as a fellow nutmegger i had no idea we had Kokanee here. Awesome stuff man glad I found your page!

@Flytyerman-ec6vq 2 месяца назад

Shenipsit Lake in the Rockville, Tolland, and Ellington area has Kokanee. Have been in that lake since the 40's. I used to live on Talcott Ave. in Rockville. Best time is when they run out of the lake and migrate upstream to spawn in the fall.

@snakeeyes9246 Год назад

Nice catches. Went for Atlantics again in the Naugatuck (my dad got a nice Tiger Trout, but nothing else). Hopefully I can make it happen in winter or spring 2023.

@ConnecticutAngler Год назад

I believe they still have yet to put the big 3yr Atlantics in the Naugatuck, though they put them in the Shetucket several days ago. Keep your eyes peeled for that.

@mainesalmonangleroutdoors Год назад

Incredible video! Really reminds me of late season fly fishing for landlocked Atlantic salmon up here in Maine. Right around October they stop feeding and they only really hit stuff like nymphs and sometimes streamers out of aggression. Really cool seeing another species of salmon out here on the East coast! Tight lines!

@ConnecticutAngler Год назад

Interesting to hear. I’ve caught landlocked Atlantics up in Vermont, but that’s always been in June, not autumn. And I’ve fished for them here in CT, but they’re straight from the hatchery to the river in autumn and generally fairly aggressive feeders as a result. But yeah, kokanee are an odd-ball species in New England and the story of how they first got here in CT is pretty crazy. They basically just appeared randomly in the mid-1930s in a lake in the hills, schooling during the spawn and already with strong numbers. The state at the time was baffled and couldn’t find any records of them being introduced. Some rogue individual must’ve gone to a lot of trouble to quietly establish a kokanee fishery and it actually worked. Whoever it was never came forward. That initial population was overfished within a decade and eventually vanished by the mid-40s. But the state figured that if it worked once it could work again, so they introduced them again in the late 50s and that was the start of the populations we have today. The topic is pretty interesting. I’ll have to do a write-up on it one of these days and put it on the blog.

@magikfishing860 Год назад

This was one of the videos I’ve been waiting for!! Gorgeous males man! I’m glad I was able to get on the run at least once this year. I appreciate you keeping that area on the down low for reasons. Just a perfect video man.

@hectorminator89 11 месяцев назад

I was able to find out where this spot is doing some research online. Not much river access. Not sure if its worth the 1.5 hour trip.

@shayn4220 Год назад

Huge fly fisherman and live in conneticut , only gotten salmon in Pulaski , love to get one of these , one day I’ll figure out where u were , I live 15 min from the covered bridge in your intro 👍🏻

@ConnecticutAngler Год назад

Ah, out near Cornwall! Y’know, the Housatonic is probably the most glaringly neglected river throughout the years of vids I’ve put together. I’ve fished it here or there, maybe a dozen times over last 3 years, but rarely does it make into videos. It’s made it into a couple, most recently the “Fishjng Along the A/T” vid from 2021, but most of the river remains uncharted territory for me. I keep saying that, one of these years, my project will be to finally spend lots of quality time getting to know it well.

@petergriffin2039 Год назад

Fished for kokanee earlier this year. Definitely can catch them without snagging. They loved a little egg sucking leach

@ConnecticutAngler Год назад

Streamers are definitely a good approach

@jonlobello7151 7 месяцев назад

I'm in the U.P. of Michigan and we have Coho and Chinook salmon here as well as Atlantics in the Easter U.P.. I wish we had Kokanee here. I watched Tyler Hicks (Spilt Milt Production) catching Kokanee on one of your Connecticut Kokanee ponds the summer before last. He caught them by trolling from his pedal Kayak. Tyler is an avid Kokanee fisherman and really know what he's doing. Those Kokanee would be a lot better eating if you caught them out of the pond before they make their spawning run. North Carolina is trying to resurrect their Kokanee program in Lake Nantahala. They used to have a fabulous self-propagating Kokanee fishery, but recently the Kokanee population crashed due to the introduction of an invasive species that attacked Kokanee alefins and fry. I hope they succeed because Kokanee get big in Lake Nantahala (probably due to a longer growing season) because 3 and 4 pounder have been caught in that lake as recently as 2018.

@ConnecticutAngler 7 месяцев назад

Yes, Kokanee caught in deep water outside of spawning season are almost certainly better eating. During the spawn, I’ve talked to many anglers that target them by trolling or jigging during summer and say it’s a blast. I’ve never tried it myself; one of these days. I’m also thinking that trying to nab them through the ice would be fun. And wow, 4lb Kokanee would be a blast! I think Connecticut’s biggest was in the 2lb range and, for reasons that I think the state biologists are still trying to figure out, the average size has seemed to trend downward over the last several years. Btw I’m envious of you folks up there in the U. P. with everything I’ve been seeing about you possibly getting grayling stocked in a few lakes. Such a cool opportunity!

@jonlobello7151 7 месяцев назад

The problem is the state treats us Yoopers like the redheaded step children that we are so we don't get the type of fisheries management that we deserve. The Michigan DNR Fish division have subjected used to a lot of bone headed management descisions and I hate to say it but that grayling thing is just another ill fated boondoggle. They tried grayling up here thirty years ago and it just didn't work because we just don't have the habitat right now that we had in the early 1800 and 1900s. With the climate changing it only going to get worse and it just ain't going to work. They'd be better off concentrating on improving brook trook habitat which is something we have now, but may not have as the climate gets warmer.@@ConnecticutAngler

@frankmonroe8320 Год назад

Who'd a thunk? Great video man!

@anoncitizen8836 Год назад

Never knew these fish were in CT streams. Great video!

@rustbeltwilds837 Год назад

there not they got flushed through the grate in the lake once they shut the flow they do not get down in the creek

@wildbrookies Год назад

Wow! A totally unexpected differant species pursued for sure but definitely a cool one! But, you were extremely successful , despite their urge to not eat while they spawn and go through their last days. Great video ! A very cool looking differant species! Thanks again , and leave me a note how they tasted! Tightlines bud!

@ConnecticutAngler Год назад

Spawning koke meat is decent. Not amazing, but not bad by any means, as long as you get em before they start zombifying. I enjoyed eating some this year. The moisture loss from the smoking process does shrink the filets a bit, and these kokes are already sort of small to begin with, so that’s worth bearing in mind. I kept a few some days later and baked them for comparison. Very similar to baked trout. I’m told that if you get the ones from the depths that aren’t spawning, they taste excellent.

@joey3785 Год назад

I actually got some of these guys to rise with some larger obnoxious flies it was pretty crazy. They’re very territorial this stage of their life cycle.

@ConnecticutAngler Год назад

Interesting. So you caught them on big dries?

@joey3785 Год назад

@@ConnecticutAngler yes in the shallow areas in that section. They would see it and strike. The hook was too large to set but it was just interesting to see the behavior.

@ConnecticutAngler Год назад

Here it is, folks: the long-awaited kokanee episode! Have you ever targeted kokanee before, either here in Connecticut or elsewhere? And were the strategies that you used similar or different from what I’ve shown here?

@billdaley7469 Год назад

Love your videos. Would like to meet up and have a coffee and chit chat about fishing. Once again great vid

@arnoldzilban8274 Год назад

Are they self sustaining after introduction into Connecticut waters? If so, it's just great that they have adapted into waters that I assume are superbly clean. I hope so...

@ConnecticutAngler Год назад

When introduced in the few particularly conducive lakes we have, kokes do fairly well. They’ll grow and live out their full lifecycle and eventually mature to the point that they try to spawn. That’s where things go awry. Their rate of successful reproduction, even in those few conducive lakes, is exceptionally low. Consequently, each year when they congregate for the spawn, the state traps a great deal and brings them back the hatchery where they are used to produce fertilized eggs under controlled conditions to later be introduced to the lake. If the state were to stop doing this, the remainder of the kokes in the lake would show up for the next couple years as they reached maturity, then the numbers would abruptly plummet. And if the kokes didn’t vanish entirely, they’d exist only at a very, very low density; certainly with too few specimens to support a meaningful fishery. So kokes have a sort of hybrid compatibility in the few lakes where they’re present. They have a decent holdover rate, but an abysmal natural recruitment rate. So without hatchery intervention, they likely wouldn’t have a sustainable presence in our state.

@arnoldzilban8274 Год назад

@@ConnecticutAngler Thank you... I suspected something like this must be the case if they were introduced quite so long ago and are seemingly still thriving. But I also left a 5% chance for an imaginary miracle answer that Ct. was a possible, natural, magical land of Shangrila for them. I guess, bottom line is that 100,000 years of genetic programming is telling them the East Coast is not their true home after all, but is a doable, well hosted AirBnB. Keep producing these videos as you do...they are terrific to watch!

@DavidDavid-ip1xf Год назад

Don't you ever get bored of catching small fish that don't fight hard or us it more about being out in the wilderness I like to feel there power I want my arms to ache

@ConnecticutAngler Год назад

Haha well, you’re definitely not the first person to ask me that. My uncle, who spent lots of time fishing the salt in Florida catching snook and tarpon and sharks, jokes with me all the time about the tiny fish I catch.😂 There’s a pretty lengthy conversation that could be had on this topic, really. But for the sake of brevity, I’d say that if the bar was “feeling my arms ache” in Connecticut waters, there’s not a whole lot of options, really. I’d mostly be limited to saltwater fishing for big stripers and blues. That’s it. And while I’ve actually made several efforts on the salt this year, it’s likely never going to be my primary scene. I’m primarily a trout angler; that’s my area of specialization. And speaking very generally, fishing for wild trout in New England isn’t really a “big game” pursuit. Sure, you get big ones sometimes, but it’s more about the general allure of pursuing wild trout, the challenge of catching them, and being in the diverse wild environments where they live. I do target other species occasionally throughout a typical year which have the potential to be larger: stillwater bass, Atlantic salmon, saltwater species. Check out my IG feed and you’ll see these sorts of fish pop up sometimes. It’s just that targeting these species isn’t routine for me as, again, I’m primarily a trout angler.

@DavidDavid-ip1xf Год назад

@@ConnecticutAngler mate I wish I could fish for tarpon also muskie gar and giant grouper but I'm from England so I'm limited I'm a predator angler mainly pike and zander and perch but with scenery like yours id just be happy to be out wetting lines although those kukanee intrest me I'm sure iv seen them at like 20lbs before big ol girls I could be wrong though

@ConnecticutAngler Год назад

In most places in North America, kokanee are generally quite a bit smaller than their sea-run sockeye kin. Average size in most fisheries rarely exceeds 14”. There are great kokanee fisheries where they get quite a bit bigger, but those are the exceptions… and those places are also 1,000 to 2,000+ miles away from me. I believe the Connecticut state record is a bit less than 18” and just under 3lbs, and the kokes have trended towards being smaller over the last several years.

@DavidDavid-ip1xf Год назад

@@ConnecticutAngler do you have ferrox trout over there

@ConnecticutAngler Год назад

I hadn’t heard of ferox, so I had to look them up. Appears to be a large, lake-dwelling variety of brown, it would seem? We don’t have those, though we do stock some lakes here with a lake-dwelling brown form called “seeforellen” (of German origin, I think) that get quite large.

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