Thanks Mark! Lots of comments here from folks who do use them and really like it. And I'm sure if I tied on one for any amount of time I would grow to love it too. :-)
The plastic piece that you mentioned is actually derlin. It is tuff stuff. I have been using my Mongoose Vise for a long time and actually bought a second one for my middle boy has his first vice.
Excellent note; thank you for this! I had no idea what it was made of but I appreciate you letting us know. And good to hear how durable it's been for you.
Thanks for the thorough review, that's a lot of great info. Your thoughts on the Peak from a couple months were spot on too. I've run a lot of hooks through mine over the last 7-8 years and it's still like new.
Thank you my friend, I appreciate the feedback! And yeah, I haven't heard from anyone who ties with the Peak who doesn't still love it. And I'm finding (from the comments to this review) that folks who have used the Mongoose for a while also love their vise. :-)
Sir Matt great review, what I like about this Mongoose is the handle and the pedestal base. On it's brother the spider cam it doesn't come with the base and the handle it came with the clamp and it is alot different using the handle I have. It's been a good vise. Another Pro is that Griffin offer lifetime warranty on all parts on their vices. It would be nice to have one of Griffin Enterprises top-of-the-line vices. Thank you Sir Matt. I loved the review, when I first started tying flies there was no one there to tell me what Vice would be good etc. your video sure Cuts all that out and makes it easier
Wow a thousand viewers, when i subscribed you was around 300. That was just a month ago. I really enjoy your videos. Very good review of the vice. I remember when i first dabbled in fly tying Grifth was the best. My how things have changed. Thank you Mat.
Wow, thanks Donald! You've been around for a while. I'd like to say thank YOU for being a supporter these several months. It's been a fun journey starting this channel. Cheers. -Matt
Very nice vice. I have a similar vice and the designs of rotary vises are still being updated and improved. The rotary functions have some little quirks such as the rotary adjustments. I would purchase this vise easily. Thanks again. Jim
Great review Matt. I tie on 2 different Montana Mongoose vises. One for production tying and the other for video and presentations. One is quite a bit older, it might be from the first production run, but it still holds up well (grey finish). My new one had the wobble as you demonstrated, but once you tie on it a while and get everything adjusted to where you need it, it is great. I recently had the spring one the cam jaws break, Griffin sent a couple of free replacement springs out for free. I tie a lot of flies, perhaps 40k or more a year and this is the vise that handles it. I also have a Regal Rotary, but I don't like it as much as the MM. Both good vises, but for my tying, the mongoose does it all. Cheers
Darren- thanks for the note! After the contest is over, I may pin this comment so more folks can see it. Over 40k flies a year is a true testament to the durability (and fun factor) of a vise. And great tip on the wobble. As for me, I absolutely love my Regal Revolution. I could certainly get used to a Mongoose, but just haven't tied much with it. Cheers. -Matt
Thanks for this note. I’ll never tie 40k flies on mine, but I’m sure it will take the wear. I felt the comments on plastic parts were misguided. Delrin is used in thousands of car parts because it acts as a durable and lightweight bearing and won’t score metal surfaces. That said, love the channel!!
Outstanding choice! If you haven't noticed, I'm definitely a Regal guy. Email me if you have any questions. Bob (FlyTier1948 on here) and I had a good email discussion about Regals recently and he just got his Revolution in the mail today.
I have both the Griffin MT Mongoose and the Regal Revolution. Without question the Regal is a better vise IMO. My Mongoose struggles to hold large hooks. This vise is a year old at most.They always slip(which is why I bought a Regal). I can pick my Regal up off the table with a hook in the jaws with the bronze pocket base on it. “The Bulldog bite” is no joke on anything I’ve put in the jaws. If it’s in the budget, go for the Regal!!! The fit and finish and function is exceptional in comparison. The mongoose is a nice vise, packed with value at its price point....and functions as such. But it’s no Regal! Good luck with your purchase.
This is the vise I use 99% of the time. I agree with everything you said Matt. I had a friend make me some steel control knobs and now I have zero issues. It was worth the extra $30 to replace the plastic.
I think you'll love it Jimmy! I know some great tiers who have been using one of these for years. After you get it adjusted how you like it, the thing is smooth as butter. :-)
As a "new guy", the amount of choices in tying is overwhelming! lol from beads to vices...holy cow! lol Seems that PEAK vice was a bit heavier. Is that preferred to have more weight to keep it solid?! haha man, I've got some research to do!
Great vise for the money. I've been using mine for 2 years tying articulated streamers. Very happy with it. Holds hooks very solid. I use the c clamp. Haven't had any issues with hooks slipping. Also tie a lot of nymphs with it. Simple adjustment to adapt to different hook sizes. I also have a Dynaking that i tying on for many years. I did wear out a set of jaws in it. Also had some issues with hooks slipping and not fitting well in the groved jaws. The Montana mongoose is my new primary tying vise.
6:15 I bought this vise because of it, and it you take 5-10 minutes on Number 7 in the instructions you can get it dialed in without the wobblie and ease of use..
On one hand, people should limit their vices or eliminate them. On the other hand, it may not be possible to have too many vises or vise reviews. Thanks for the guidance Matt. The new vise arrived today. Whee!
You know Bob, that's a great way to look at it! How many 9-ft, 5-wt rods do I need? Certainly not the 6-8 that I have. Why not the same thing for vises? :-)
I think so Lee. But probably even more than that... check our Darren's comment (Piscator Flies). He ties about 40k flies a year on this vise and speaks highly of it.
Oh yeah, the ads are flowing! That means hopefully soon I'll be making enough on here to be able to afford the stuff I'm giving back to the community. :-)
Good vise, so still looking so is the Mongoose or Peak? What wpuld you say is better both around the same money if you add the metal screws to the Peak. Keep Tying It.
@@jaymckenzie448 Jay- hands down, I'd go with the Peak. I still use mine quite regularly. Check out my review of the Peak Rotary and you can see it up close. Let me know if you have any specific questions (matt@savageflies.com). Thanks for the note!
@@SavageFlies Thank you Matt, I really appreciate it! I'm new to tying and wasn't sure if I would like it so I went with one of the kits from Cabelas and now I want to upgrade. I found a Griffin for $150 and the Peak is $165 so I wanted to ask, thanks again!
I’m looking at a great value vice and the mongoose keeps popping up! At $176 it seems like a great price point. After your review I’m wondering if it’s too crowded underneath the vise? Making hackle wraps and work underneath seem like it may be Cumbersome? Any wisdom is welcomed. Thanks for the great review!
Thanks for the question. I don't see any issues with this for a left handed tier. (I don't actually have this vise anymore as I gave it away after reviewing it. Otherwise I would give it a try for you. But I don't think you'll have any issues.) As far as the pedestal being a little small, yes it is a bit smaller than the Peak but it didn't have any wobble to it when tying under normal circumstances. I imagine it could seem a little shaky if you were spinning some deer hair on big bass bugs or tying really big saltwater flies. Otherwise it was pretty solid.
Dan- I have not used a DynaKing vise. The first high-dollar vise I review (and hope to give away) will probably be a Regal. But we'll get to a DynaKing someday. Hopefully later this year. :-)
That's what I would guess too Steven. But from reading some of the comments here, it appears this thing will hold up very well for years and many flies. Thanks for the note my friend. Cheers. -Matt
However, I'm probably needlessly worrying about a very minor detail. As you point out, vise is solid, machined to close tolerances and will last for several years.
Nobody cares about the case. I live in Montana, so my first inclination was to buy a Montana made vise. I had used the 1A years ago and liked it for its simplicity. The Mongoose on the other hand, is an over-complicated version of good Renzetti. Too many screws and parts. Why not just buy the Renzetti? It does everything the Mongoose will do, it's a simpler design, and it's better built.
Sorry Robert I can't really say. I only played around with this one for a day or two before I gave it away. And didn't flip it around to see how it would do.
