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Flying Cars Have Arrived! eVTOL Panel: Archer, Joby, Wisk | All-In Summit 2024 

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@alexf7414
@alexf7414 3 дня назад
I’m liking this without even seeing it-All In, always on top of their game.
@jgconnelly
@jgconnelly 3 дня назад
Great! Downloaded to take to work. Finally, something besides politics or hurricanes! 😅
@thevoid2403
@thevoid2403 3 дня назад
finally something other than regarded political takes
@lotuselitess888
@lotuselitess888 3 дня назад
so much yes -- sending love from Phoenix
@JohansLundgren
@JohansLundgren 3 дня назад
This years summit has been fantastic! I think Friedberg mentioned an Adyen interview at some point? I would love to see that one!
@LogixXtreme
@LogixXtreme 12 часов назад
It was just released today!
@eamonshields2754
@eamonshields2754 День назад
Awesome show guys
@aculeus1971
@aculeus1971 3 дня назад
Shame not to have Lilium represented on stage. Their eVTOL electric jet is very sophisticated and nearly ready for production.
@InfoSopher
@InfoSopher 3 дня назад
Yes. And they are in danger of running out of money right now..
@kenjues1594
@kenjues1594 3 дня назад
@@InfoSopher true. The speed, fast to slow, to productionize innovation Ehang, Joby/Archer, Lilium
@tz6516
@tz6516 2 дня назад
Not a jet…just ducted propellers.
@harbifm766766
@harbifm766766 2 дня назад
They all scams, including Lilium ...who cares..
@kenjues1594
@kenjues1594 2 дня назад
@@tz6516 what are you talk about? Non of these are using jets
@ProductiveDude
@ProductiveDude 17 минут назад
Top notch
@Hexrocks
@Hexrocks 3 дня назад
Lillium has by far the best design.
@shehrozeshahzad4363
@shehrozeshahzad4363 2 дня назад
Excatly i was thinking of the Peter Thiel quote from zero to one and it came in start!
@donaldjohnson-e8f
@donaldjohnson-e8f 2 дня назад
And these still aren't flying cars, let's be honest. Unimpressive.
@CostcoSamurai
@CostcoSamurai 2 дня назад
The Volocoptor from Volocity should be flying in Osaka by 2025 for the Osaka World Expo.
@Goodlookingjedi
@Goodlookingjedi 3 дня назад
Yeah, go New Zealand!
@traceybamforth_lavatreefar1716
I’m excited! 5th element vibes.
@Hexrocks
@Hexrocks 3 дня назад
I'm shocked Lillium wasn't represented as well.
@sonny_coates
@sonny_coates 3 дня назад
perhaps because it’s an EU (German) company? But, I agree… it’s the most beautiful design. I know Palantir is involved with them
@moonwalker2
@moonwalker2 3 дня назад
Everyone likes the look of liliums design but they have missed every milestone and have been unable to prove it works
@sphudson
@sphudson День назад
Not sure if they will survive
@andymac3107
@andymac3107 10 часов назад
1-person flights - Jetson offers something small and much more portable
@davidgkirk
@davidgkirk 4 часа назад
Please observe that ALL flying car videos play background music so you don't hear how loud and obnoxious they are. Imagine hundreds of these flying over your home all the time.
@johnwalbolt
@johnwalbolt 2 дня назад
Cool talk!
@kenjues1594
@kenjues1594 3 дня назад
China is ahead of us on this. If you have been paying attention to eVTOL for the past few years, Their regulatory body moves much faster.
@tz6516
@tz6516 2 дня назад
China, rightly or wrongly, is ok with making mistakes. Their solution to affordable housing was to overbuild high rise condos. Oppps. But they do accelerate the time to adoption. China can build an entire city in the time it takes LosAngeles to approve the archetual plans for a single building.
@sphudson
@sphudson День назад
Chinese regulatory body is not very stringent at all compared to the FAA or other regulatory bodies.
@Cinnabuns2009
@Cinnabuns2009 2 дня назад
And in the event of a malfunction or lets say, EMP/solar flare/etc all motors cut and person pulls the manual parachute deploy to carry the vehicle quietly to ground?
@sphudson
@sphudson День назад
The same would happen in a helicopter, an airplane, etc.
@iplaythebongo
@iplaythebongo 3 дня назад
All of this seems like an extreme waste of a capital and is years beyond feasible
@tz6516
@tz6516 2 дня назад
They told Elon the same thing.
@liamlaird1494
@liamlaird1494 День назад
Agree
@sphudson
@sphudson День назад
Watch the robotaxi presentation the other day from Elon Musk. He inadvertently admits that we will need to have AAM (taking advantage of airspace).
@dude3678
@dude3678 День назад
Flying cars will never work until the noise somehow gets solved. 1 small drone is loud. Imagine everyone's car.
@leoboo
@leoboo День назад
Archer is pretty quite, to my surprise
@sphudson
@sphudson День назад
These aren’t flying cars
@jeffking3693
@jeffking3693 День назад
Interesting, the only manufacturer shipping (my neighbor bought one) is not there. the pivotal helix
@AaronRClark
@AaronRClark 3 дня назад
Joeben Bevirt, don't know the guy but seems like a stud. Goddamn awesome to see someone with technical acumen speak up
@InfoSopher
@InfoSopher 3 дня назад
24:48 "The background noise level in cities is 65db." We all know that cities aren't equally loud everywhere. Many people have their quiet places. Like a walled off garden. Some kind of protected area. Even if it's a public space. This is why I think that people will only accept it, if it will actually be quiet. 45db is not quiet. In particular once you realize how many places this sound reaches. Personally, I'm rather sceptical that the first generation will not have many opponents because of that.
@bigbobabc123
@bigbobabc123 3 дня назад
do you get angry when planes or helicopters fly over? stop being such a baby over a tiny bit of noise.
@OwenRULESSS
@OwenRULESSS 3 дня назад
I agree
@AlexanderBrueck
@AlexanderBrueck 3 дня назад
45 db is actually very quiet. Have you ever heard 45 db? Db is on a log scale.
@InfoSopher
@InfoSopher 2 дня назад
@@bigbobabc123 Angry is the wrong word. But it can interrupt me relaxing or trying to take a nap. At least with helicopters there are so few that I know that it will probably be gone for a while when it happens.
@InfoSopher
@InfoSopher 2 дня назад
@@AlexanderBrueck Yes I did and yes I know. What you are ignoring is that noise perception is relative. If you live in a quiet area, or have a quiet place, then even a low noise level can be perceived. Just take a look at the PC hardware community and their obsession with fan noise. They don't stop at 45db. They go way further down. And not because they'd imagine it. But rather because PCs are often used in quiet places, such that even 30db can be perceived as too loud. Personally I run a PC with Noctua fans, running at a lower voltage. About in the 20db range. And I still could live with a lot less. Don't get me wrong. I've lived near a loud street. Of course closed windows make a huge difference. But in the end this kind of background noise is scientifically proven to be bad for your mental wellbeing, stress level and in the end your health.
@vvampire868
@vvampire868 12 часов назад
Why are any of these options better than Blade? Seems like main roadmap for these guys is to create fix routes to avoid traffic, especially starting to/from airports. Blade already did that.
@sobo90
@sobo90 2 дня назад
The tech potential is proven. They are quieter, safer and potentially even cheaper than trad copters. The key challenge to me is around VTOL pads and trained pilots. Those are going to be constraining variables, not the Evtols themselves
@Merelytemporal
@Merelytemporal 2 дня назад
Toys for billionaires. But that’s what cars were. Until they weren’t.
@paulo7200
@paulo7200 3 дня назад
These will never be certified by the FAA. Part 135 (Charter for Hire) requires an aircraft have enough fuel to fly to the destination airport, then to an alternate airport, and for an additional 45 minutes of flight time. Present battery tech lacks the energy density to make this happen.
@kenjues1594
@kenjues1594 3 дня назад
well, Joby can fly over 500 miles with it new technology. They can reserve a buffer for safety.
@paulo7200
@paulo7200 3 дня назад
@@kenjues1594 Source?
@snozberriesnow
@snozberriesnow 3 дня назад
@@paulo7200 PR available on the Joby site for the 523 mile flight (Jul 11, 2024) , along with the FAA Part 135 certification (May 26, 2022) - google it
@tz6516
@tz6516 2 дня назад
Those 135 rules will be amended for this new industry. Those rules were written for fixed-wing aircraft that might need to find a distant runway with better weather. eVTOLs can land in a vacant lot. The FAA can be flexible. Who would have foreseen 135 operators flying single-engine airplanes, inter-island in Hawaii??! I still cannot believe it.
@sphudson
@sphudson День назад
I spoke to the CEO/owner of another Competing eVTOL OEM a few months back and he said that Joby is too big to fail. That is what the FAA indicates. It will be certified. And you will lose out if you are not invested right now. Good luck
@DavidFekke
@DavidFekke День назад
So these "aircraft" have a total range of 50 minutes. If they intend on carrying passengers under current FAA rules you need enough juice to get to an alternate plus 45 minutes of reserve. So according to my math they would only be able to travel for about 10 miles. I am not sure how this will ever work in the United States. I am assuming they would operate under IFR as part 14 CFR Part 135 rules.
@Sam-br8ft
@Sam-br8ft 3 дня назад
What could go wrong ? Let's try flying cars.
@james_muller
@james_muller 23 часа назад
Reject Reject Reject !!!
@sooma-ai
@sooma-ai 3 дня назад
The video discusses the future of electric vertical takeoff and landing (eVTOL) aircraft, featuring representatives from Joby, Archer, and Wisk. They cover topics including safety, regulatory challenges, noise reduction, autonomous flight, and timelines for commercial availability.
@DTR89
@DTR89 3 дня назад
passenger drones
@sonny_coates
@sonny_coates 3 дня назад
Where’s Lilium? It’s got, by far, the sleekest design and already has an FAA license
@ImperialTechReviews
@ImperialTechReviews День назад
Clear they wouldn’t talk about the tech to make these quiet because there is none
@Tony-kj2me
@Tony-kj2me 3 дня назад
Work on your pitch boys. Good luck
@hlkihglkhglkhg
@hlkihglkhglkhg 3 дня назад
I may have missed it but what are the safety features in these aircraft?
@GraceToGrow-ob3nl
@GraceToGrow-ob3nl 3 дня назад
Multiple propellers with separate batteries packs Fully redundant Evtols day one will be the safest transport on earth
@ibgib
@ibgib 3 дня назад
21:38 - here is the first the they mention "redundancies". This means that these craft are orders of magnitude safer by design. There are multiple points of failure required for a catastrophic event. So say an aircraft has six rotors. He says that each rotor has its own inverter and battery pack. So if one rotor goes out, or one inverter blows a fuse or battery pack fails, it can still fly. Some online state that even if two fail it could still fly. Also with the multiple rotors, it's easier to escape a possible problem inherent with rotors called Vortex Ring State (at 24:00). So even this issue is apparently addressed with the redundancies (also as they mention with techniques that can break this not available with a conventional helicopter).
@paulo7200
@paulo7200 3 дня назад
The main safety feature is that they will never be certified to carry paying passengers in the US.
@tz6516
@tz6516 2 дня назад
Math and science…higher safety rating than human intervention.
@justinwhite2716
@justinwhite2716 3 дня назад
This is awesome. Peter Thiel needs to change his slogan now!
@__________5737
@__________5737 3 дня назад
You are most certainly are NOT guaranteed to fear new technology if you don’t come from an industry but regulate it. Industry can use consultants with regulators. Rare Friedberg L.
@midwestcannabis
@midwestcannabis 3 дня назад
🥳🥳✌️✌️
@kingmidas7170
@kingmidas7170 3 дня назад
Lilium is the Best ❤
@rickvalmer9306
@rickvalmer9306 День назад
No, the best is Eve air mobility owned by Embraer.
@kingmidas7170
@kingmidas7170 23 часа назад
@@rickvalmer9306 :D never ever
@rickvalmer9306
@rickvalmer9306 16 часов назад
@@kingmidas7170 I have studied evtol’s mkt. Let’s see until the end of 2025. good luck
@kingmidas7170
@kingmidas7170 16 часов назад
@@rickvalmer9306 For Regional Air Mobility Lilium is invincible. Yes, we will see, my friend :)
@ExecutiveZombie
@ExecutiveZombie 3 дня назад
I can’t wait while I need SNAP to afford groceries…. Thank for solving our concerns in society. Why didn’t you answer Friedbergs question?🤨 You danced around an important question. 🧐
@leemeli7585
@leemeli7585 День назад
How do you control the airspace above your own property? My concern is harming views and privacy.
@kkaalaas
@kkaalaas 3 дня назад
to commercial pilots this is a nightmare........the air is already crazy full around big cities
@RandyRanderson404
@RandyRanderson404 3 дня назад
Why? These could stay in a lower airspace while other major commercial stay in higher airspace until they need to get into the pattern at an airport which these wouldn't be near.
@donaldjohnson-e8f
@donaldjohnson-e8f 2 дня назад
So they basically invented.....an airplane. There is nothing new under the sun, is there?
@jamesadler2540
@jamesadler2540 2 дня назад
Why do these things have to be electric? Is that part of keeping the noise down? Feels like not using some kind of fossil fuel based energy source severely limits the range on these things. Disclaimer I don't really know much about the science here and just have a preconceived idea in my head that, even now, you still get quite a bit more energy out of a fossil fuel engine than from a comparably weighted battery
@sphudson
@sphudson День назад
Sustainable, zero emissions. They are quiet because of the electric motors, but mainly because of the slower moving propellers.
@LearnWithBahman
@LearnWithBahman 3 дня назад
Autonomous one are like Venmo . The pilot / driver lives in India or Bangladesh 😁Venmo has more operators than their car. However it is cheaper and also you can say it is autonomous 😁😂No one ask these questions from these companies cause they are directly or indirect investors or they don’t want to go after bigger investors. 😂😅
@canadianrepublican1185
@canadianrepublican1185 3 дня назад
What about the Boeing crash in 2023 "2023_Coulson_Aviation_Boeing_737_crash" no one died, but the pilots had minor injuries.
@rickvalmer9306
@rickvalmer9306 День назад
Nobody from Eve Air Mobility
@jaredwood7124
@jaredwood7124 3 дня назад
EH Stock at $17 a share
@GraceToGrow-ob3nl
@GraceToGrow-ob3nl 3 дня назад
17.98 rn
@kenjues1594
@kenjues1594 3 дня назад
@@GraceToGrow-ob3nl it was over $22 yesterday
@GloriaW888
@GloriaW888 3 дня назад
I don’t want a flying car crashing into my house.
@GraceToGrow-ob3nl
@GraceToGrow-ob3nl 3 дня назад
Cars crash more often then planes sir
@AntonStetner
@AntonStetner День назад
😢😢 look at the current stats. How many cars crash into houses versus how many planes crash into houses or helicopters? And because the data is going to be skewed, because of less aircraft, you need to look at it at the same interval rate like 1 per 1000. What you're talking about is not a problem. It's an irrational fear
@DanielzeGreat
@DanielzeGreat 3 дня назад
First
@allin
@allin 3 дня назад
first!
@GraceToGrow-ob3nl
@GraceToGrow-ob3nl 3 дня назад
No Ehang is first $EH
@sriramaswamy
@sriramaswamy 3 дня назад
Why are we so obsessed with technologies of the 2200s. Why is fixing our current critical issues not considered sexy. We’re lagging behind on infrastructure, education, insurance, healthcare and others too am pretty sure. Why don’t you bring guests that are less popular but are solving real problems
@spartan5536
@spartan5536 3 дня назад
Because people think these are political problems.
@gillygoat881
@gillygoat881 3 дня назад
Highly regulated by government + regulatory capture, and politics makes it super hard to fix. But we still need people to be obsessed with future technologies thats what got us here in the first place!
@labradore99
@labradore99 3 дня назад
The incumbents don't want these boring problems solved. They are profitable problems and existing players have effective control over legal and regulatory barriers.
@JayThinksHappiness
@JayThinksHappiness 3 дня назад
Not everybody who runs or starts a business is focused on the very same problem.
@TGenoRock
@TGenoRock 3 дня назад
There really are different dynamics with different types of problems. Give it a different think, and you might understand why we can produce quality food in abundance, but people will simply eat junk.. or why cars allow us unprecedented freedom, but some people are terrible drivers, and some even cause accidents with drugs and alcohol. Some think that everybody should live in a dense city and ride trains. Lots of low res thinking.
@hanselmansell7555
@hanselmansell7555 3 дня назад
Oh yeah, like 'driverless' cars I guess, or Musk's amazing 'underground railway' of which they've done about 4km... YOU GUYS ARE A FLIPPING JOKE!!! 🤪😂😂
@angiegracie6954
@angiegracie6954 3 дня назад
We have flying cars … they are called airplanes.
@GraceToGrow-ob3nl
@GraceToGrow-ob3nl 3 дня назад
Planes can’t land without runways which are large Evtols can takeoff and land anywhere which saves on land and infrastructure saving millions Evtols are also less expensive
@mike77588
@mike77588 3 дня назад
Wtf, 4 people in one plane. That's not solving anything but a nice service for a bunch of rich people
@davidb7381
@davidb7381 2 дня назад
So the rich people are making the roads less crowded for you and me at no cost to us. The problem is?
@tz6516
@tz6516 2 дня назад
$5,000 an hour for a helicopter. $500 per hour for a eVTOL. Air mobility just went from the 1% to the top 10%. Henry Ford’s first million cars did not go to the middle class. Only IBM could afford an early computer. Pan Am was mainly for the rich….now we have JetBlue and Spirit available for anyone with $200. Embrace the tech even if currently it doesn’t benefit you.
@eden5260
@eden5260 2 дня назад
Do you usually take a taxi with other people?
@tz6516
@tz6516 День назад
@@eden5260 Uber offers a lower rate if you share a ride. Full price if you want the car to yourself. Does Delta Airlines offer you the entire airplane? Only if you buy all the seats!
@ljviks22
@ljviks22 3 дня назад
No they havnt….flying cars are just helicopters and now these EVTALs. Flying cars are only in the way people dreamed of are ones that fly one minute and are driving on roads the next. That’s never happening due to airspace and road laws and regulations….however helicopters and these are as close are you will ever get and they have been around for decades. So stop with this flying cars none-sense, helicopters have existed forever
@EJ-vf9qf
@EJ-vf9qf 3 дня назад
Agreed, this is just a civilian iteration of the military Osprey aircraft. It's still an impressive piece of tech but not a flying car.
@justinpfortier
@justinpfortier 3 дня назад
Ospreys have not been a reliable aircraft and only have two rotors. They are also very loud, as are helicopters. Evtols looks to change that.
@GraceToGrow-ob3nl
@GraceToGrow-ob3nl 3 дня назад
Sure they are basically helicopters but significantly better! Think of Evtols as a helicopter 2.0 Evtols make significantly less noise which will allow them to operate closer to cities without disturbing Evtols can be autonomous which is safe and saves cost on pilots Evtols are less expensive to build operate and on maintenance cost significant cost savings Evtols are far more safer then helicopters because evtols have multiple points of failure and multiple redundant systems Evtols have multiple propellers with separate batteries systems compared to helicopters one engine one fuel source Evtols are the future period
@ardeshirjahanian2697
@ardeshirjahanian2697 2 дня назад
No one wants mass numbers of these things flying over their heads
@eden5260
@eden5260 2 дня назад
How much will it cost to hire a helicopter for 15 -30 min Vs this ? That should be the major difference. The other is station. Helicopters can only land in specific locations If this can't change that it is going to fail
@4mIlr
@4mIlr 3 дня назад
another toy for billionaires and for those reasons I'm out
@GraceToGrow-ob3nl
@GraceToGrow-ob3nl 3 дня назад
Not likely because Evtols are inexpensive and they can operate close to cities Look deeper
@4mIlr
@4mIlr 3 дня назад
@@GraceToGrow-ob3nl we need better tech for flyin cars..thats just mini helicopter
@GraceToGrow-ob3nl
@GraceToGrow-ob3nl 3 дня назад
No Evtols are happening like it or not
@thomaswilliams4944
@thomaswilliams4944 3 дня назад
Glad you're out.. more profit for the rest of us.
@tan_ori
@tan_ori 2 дня назад
Yeah no.
@GraceToGrow-ob3nl
@GraceToGrow-ob3nl 3 дня назад
China is the leader of Evtols already so America can’t lead on something they already lost Ehang Autoflight
@kenyamemes3280
@kenyamemes3280 3 дня назад
DO they even mention eHang?
@kenjues1594
@kenjues1594 3 дня назад
@@kenyamemes3280 yes. But very briefly
@dimkin123
@dimkin123 2 дня назад
Incredible. But i don't care. I can hardly pay 2 x 80k for two "normal" cars in my garage. I am Middle class and don't care about toys for the rich.
@tz6516
@tz6516 2 дня назад
You don’t care about Gulfstream either then. But their airplanes are selling like hot cakes and the company is the largest employer in Savannah. Archer is building a massive factory in Georgia. These companies provide employment and add to national GDP.
@struckturedCHAOS
@struckturedCHAOS 2 дня назад
It's laughable and sad that people believe that if something is too expensive for them, it doesn't affect them, or they shouldn't care. Every novel idea starts off as expensive. Look at every electric car company - they always start with the flagship model (Tesla w/ the Roadster, Rivian w/ the R1T/S, Lucid, etc). Or even look at the first "normal" car, the Ford Model T. That started at $850 in 1908, $29k in today's money. Or even the Edison's first light bulb which was $1 in 1881 or over $30 today.
@struckturedCHAOS
@struckturedCHAOS 2 дня назад
Point is, you should care because eventually, every company that successfully makes the "expensive thing," will begin producing it for less and less money until it reaches mass market.
@dimkin123
@dimkin123 2 дня назад
@@tz6516 Every company provides employment and contributes to GDP. This argument just distracts from what i said. Same way as this tech direction may move technology ahead but do not contribute or address the needs of society.
@fred8169
@fred8169 День назад
This company will not exist in 10 years. They are fixing a problem. Why the pilot not flying the plane?
@mullerszable
@mullerszable 2 дня назад
No way do the people want this! To much noise. Accidents will be kill and destroy property
@squashduos1258
@squashduos1258 3 дня назад
The big elephant in the room….safety wise flying with strangers who has a panic attack or goes rogue during the flight…unclips the seat belt….no Marshall onboard….that is no go for me! Why don’t they address this?
@thomaswilliams4944
@thomaswilliams4944 3 дня назад
Don't go outside, the sky is falling!! Stay in your bubble wrapped apartment...
@squashduos1258
@squashduos1258 3 дня назад
@@thomaswilliams4944 it’s people like you on an airplane I’m avoiding…;-) don’t tell me this is a concern of yours…
@tz6516
@tz6516 2 дня назад
Buy all five seats and your only travel companion will be your paranoia.
@squashduos1258
@squashduos1258 2 дня назад
@@tz6516 not paranoid but to think air flight will have people calm just look at the increase of Marshall intervention on regular planes…but I think as a solution if you could lock people in permanently in their seats during the flight like a roller coaster I’d fly. Btw one of the vtols do have a pilot onboard. Just saying…fwiw
@delarow
@delarow 2 дня назад
This panel on eVTOLs got my attention. The fact that companies like Archer, Joby, and Wisk are so close to bringing electric air taxis to market is wild. For someone who’s all about finding efficient ways to work and live, the idea of cutting through city congestion with this tech is game-changing. I’m also interested in how they’re handling the regulatory side, especially in the U.S. where it’s always a slow grind. But seeing places like New Zealand adapting quicker gives me hope this could scale up sooner than we think. If they hit their target for a 2026 launch, we’re looking at a real shift in how cities move people around. Feels like we’re finally on the edge of something big with urban transport.🥷
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