Flying the IAF MiG-25 Foxbat | Sumit Mukerji (Part 2) 

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@@Aircrewinterview Deffo

This guys is great. Great to talk to someone who really knows practical knowledge, not just statistics

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India has always used Russian aircraft with Western style tactics, and pretty effectively at that

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Mig-25 was way better than Sr71 - unlike SR71 who couldn't carry even a pistol , the Mig 25 could get missiles and / or cannon. But the main difference one was mass-produced with great safety record, the other was a prototype and a flying coffin, with 40% of all airframes build crashing/exploding/burning. The only slight advantage of the SR71 over Mig25 was a slightest bigger top speed on straight line, but the Mig25 could climb a lot faster, fly higher and was significantly more maneuverable ( SR71 could not even turn 180º at supersonic speed) .

This exact tactic was how the Serbs shot down the F-117. They had people near the airbase in Italy watching it take off for each sortie. And they contacted the battery that was pre-deployed on it's expected flight path.

He is legendary Indian Air Force pilot and retired as a 3 star Air Marshal.

.... It being a well known scientific fact that space and time are not usually intertwined at all of course. *They just think they can get away with such conduct during Total Solar Eclipses because its dark and the astronomers won't notice and go grassing them up to the physicists*

@Not Again Yes it did. The MiG-25 held all the time-to-altitude records until the F-15 took them and that included climbing over 100,000 ft (clean aircraft). There was nothing to actually stop a clean MiG-25 flying at Mach 3, other than engine limitations.

@Not Again when commentor himself is high 🤣

@Vat RW It doesn’t really matter. That poster was wrong and I notice he has deleted his (rather pointless) post. It’s fair to say that it didn’t “fly” at 100,000 ft in the accepted sense but it had been there at least in the ballistic sense. The OP’s claim is not unreasonable.

@@thethirdman225 F-15 altitude record is 98,425 feet in 1975 and MiG-25 altitude record is 123,523 feet in 1977. Both are a peaks, performing a zoom climb at the altitude. The MiG-25 was as well first fighter in 1973 to climb over 115 000 ft. The F-15 record to 20 km is 122.94 seconds. The MiG-25 record to 20 km is 169.8 seconds. The difference is that MiG-25 did it from normal rolling take-off, where F-15 was strapped with special hook on the runway with full afterburners, and after release it was airborne 3 seconds after that, so that helped a lot to get a faster climb. And MiG-25 (as MiG-31) engines can accelerate well past the Mach 3.4 without any damages etc. The engines are not limitation for that, it is the old fallacy. The limitation to Mach 3.2 is that it is safest speed when MiG's air intake can withstand the speed. After the Mach 3.4 the air intake collapse becomes too high possibility. But same way SR-71 has a no-exceed Mach 3.4 limit so it is a moot which one is really a faster, as other is required to infiltrate the airspace, while other is required to intercept that infiltration and has a missiles to perform the intercept in +/- 200-50 km range from the infiltrator. Considering that MiG-25 purpose is to perform a interception, it is not to infiltrate an enemy airspace at long range, why it needs performance and longevity for its tasking to do the interception time after time. The window to interception is counted in seconds, pilot needs to be at given moment ready on the runway engines at max break limit, on command release breaks and take-off for exact heading and perform correct climb. As the interception window to get missile lock and guidance on estimated high speed bomber threat is about 15-20. In 30-40 seconds the target has already passed the engagement from interception. It is like trying to shoot a bullet with a another bullet from the side. Why these climb records and speed to it are slightly moot, as interceptor doesn't require just that, but very specific tasking to specific threat.

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@@Aircrewinterview please can you interview more india airforce pilots specifically those involved in war 1965 war 1971 1999 war

Very hot, but it’s a dry sarcasm.

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MiG 21s did phenomenally good in the hands of Indians during 1971 war

@@dragonstormdipro1013 yet got shot down by a 195os korean war era PAF F-86 Sabre.

@@foxtrotwhiskey874 A 60s era SA2 shot down a F117. Doesn’t mean the F117 is bad.

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Yeah, I like the mig 25 because it was so built for purpose. It had good radar but only for high altitude targets and was very fast to incept , find and destroy high altitude bombers which was America’s tactic at the time (not low altitude stealth that they moved to later) and was designed to be produced in quite high numbers because Russia is a big country to cover. Their design just makes sense in the context that they were produced.

I think SR-71 has been used in almost all modern day conflict zone till it's retirement , starting from Vietnam war, first Gulf war, Arab Israeli wars name it . Yah have to agree like the mig-25 also .

@@rosenchowdhury66 Do you have proof of it’s use in these conflicts? Specially Gulf war?

@@dragonstormdipro1013 Yes most likely it missed the gulf war by few months but it's absence was felt by the Bear (i guess you know him) . For the other missions search the net . After reading I guess you will agree the SR-71 prevented the WW3 taking place.

@@rosenchowdhury66 Ohh I don’t doubt that. SR71 was pivotal at maintaining peace. Absolute beauty of a plane.

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@Not Again It was overhyped to some extent (especially the fighter versions), but certainly not junk! It was an extraordinary aircraft for its time. And it did shoot down an F/A-18 in Desert Storm!

@@KRGruner Absolutely Karl. From what the F-15 pilots in DS said, the best pilots flew the -25, not the -29. We got a teaser about the engines above Mach 3.0, but not a real answer if they could do it and land ((Belenko said they couldn't). The Mig-25 was an absolute beast. One of the few things that might be able to run down a -111? And he flew so many different types too, -21, -23, -25, -27, -29, Su-30, Mi-2000. Wow.

@@davidsmith8997 Yes. As to MiG-25 vs F-111 speed, my take is at high altitude the MiG would take it, but at low altitude (on the deck), the F-111 would win, maybe not by much. But just a guess. Not much data on MiG-25 at low altitude.

@@KRGruner Thanks for the reply Karl! It would seem, to me at least, to be a match between the really clean airframe of the -111 versus the brute power of the -25. I definitely don't know either. I just know that the only reports of proficient A-A engagements in DS came against Mig-25 pilots. So I suspect that it's a capable interceptor. But here again, I wish Sumit had more questions as I recall (for what that's worth)Belenko saying the -25 didn't have look-down, shoot-down capability but Sumit implied they did. Maybe a later upgrade? Karl, I thought it was eerie and weird (and Sumit said it was lonely) that no one spoke to the -25s until they were landing. How would you feel about taxing, taking off, and flying all without any communication? Without giving any operational info, would NATO have ever done anything that in the 80s and 90s (maybe -117s)?

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He's an old man ,give him a break. For his age hes spoken very well ,clear and concise.

@@beryanbeyaan8047 I think that on balance, my comment was pretty positive. I certainly meant no serious offense for someone who, as I said, I really enjoyed listening to.

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Pretty sure that's a myth, cause if they flew in afterburner all the time then there's no way they are gonna create a Sonic boom over Pakistan.

leave it to indians to make a mountain out of a molehill.

@@dragonstormdipro1013its not a myth, pakis acknowledged it.

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@@Aircrewinterview absolutely , thank you !!looking fwd to hear some dogfight stories on the channel 🤘

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I guess you would pip Sumit's MIG 25 on endurance (though not range) still *IF I HAD to chose which one to get a ride in* , nice as the rv9 is .............

Ha ! Rv9 cheaper to run too !

The Egyptian Air Force stopped MIG 25 overflights of Saudi Arabia when the Saudi's started operating BAC Lightnings.....

@@jackaubrey8614 Yep LOL... I believe that. That BAC Lightning is fast too. I saw a interview on here that they used the Concorde coming out from the Barent Sea to the DEW line to simulate Mach 2+ soviet Bomber coming from the CCCP. The lightning was fast enough to intercept it. The FGR4 ( F-4 Phantom ) should be able to do it too i guess...

There was, he mentions it a few times. First gen INS that took 45 minutes to level.

@@aviovintage And how accurate ?

@@TD-qh6yu Did the Indian ones have the bombing ability ?

@@TD-qh6yu What sense made it then ?

What's the yellow button on the stick's top for ?

US military and FAA definition makes you an astronaut if you flew above 80km.

@@xyzaero So he's 5ft 6in *AND 1.25 Astronauts* - That well beyond cool 😜

@@Farweasel 80 Kilometers that’s like 260.000 feet so he is a 0.25 Astronaut.

@@xyzaero 'In the United States ..... who travel above an altitude of 50 miles (80 km) are awarded astronaut wings'. (wikipedia)

yeah..whatever

@@beryanbeyaan8047 no whatever about it, it's a well known fact

@@briancrawford69 SR71 is a better plane. Ironic that India used the MiG 25 as almost in the same role as SR71, and got excellent results with it.

Who is comparing both of them tho?

India has been gradually leaving Russian stuff for years. The imports has been steadily decreasing from the last few years. It fell down 21% in the period 2012-2018.

India has been buying things from all over the world since it became independent. What it DOESN'T do much of is buy from the US. And the reason for *that* is very simple: the US only sells crap versions of it's equipment to other (non-white) countries. That and when they've fought the Pakistanis who *do* use US-built equipment, the Indians have usually kicked the shit out of them. There's very little US equipment that is world class *that the US will sell to other countries*

@@iatsd lmao other non white nations would disagree and plenty of nations have F35s. Russia sells lower versions for export as well. But yea India keep buying those sweet used Russian ships that break down or they just go back on the deal lol

No we will build our own. Multiple projects are going on like - TEDBF AMCA Tejas mk2 MMH

@@djmoh.6509 I'm well aware of what they're building and some of it is good stuff but others you would definitely be better buying from the US. Especially since we're allies