This is NOT AN ENERGY MULTIPLICATION POWER SYSTEM but can be thought of as an ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEM. To be more specific, we can use this system to trap or hold the mechanical energy using fly wheels of minimum rotational friction (of-course with an exponentially but slowly decaying fashion) for some time. Can be a very good energy storage system (may be comparable to batteries) to hold the power generated during day time when using solar power panels. This system can slowly release the energy to a connected load during night.
@@harrytopia282 Yes, huge flywheels on gigantic metal stamping presses will coast to a stop in a few minutes after the power is shut off and they are even running without a load on them.
@@harrytopia282 I agree with you . Arrest deceivers off RU-vid pronto before more young minds are destroyed and their wallets and wasted time. There is no free lunch in the universe.
Correct me if I am wrong, the flywheel is like an energy storing device like a battery. So let us consider the same setup that you used wherein you use a motor to rotate the flywheel. In simple words you are transferring the mechanical energy of the motor to kinetic energy of the flywheel. Now after the flywheel or "battery" has reached to its full kinetic energy or "charge" by the motor or the "charger", you are turning off the motor or "charger" and therefore the flywheel continues to spin due to moment of inertia therefore dispensing its stored kinetic energy or "charge". At this particular instant, the input to the entire setup is 0 watts but the output by the generator is say whatever the capacity of the alternator/PMG is. So, my question is this power multiplication? Because to me it sounds like you're storing energy and using that same energy. I would rather call it much worse because here we would have to consider much more inefficiencies like the motor will have some losses, switching losses of VFD, frictional losses by the bearing, static losses by flywheel. So, what energy you dispense by the motor, which then is stored by the flywheel and then is fed to the alternator/PMG, there is a drop in energy at each stage due to these losses. Now, let us climb another step further wherein you mentioned the smaller motor is running. Imagine that the system is fully charged (meaning flywheel is rotated to its rated capacity) and now the alternator is in mesh with the flywheel and there is an instantaneous full load connected to the alternator/PMG. In this case there has to be an obvious drop in speed (RPM) of the flywheel. Now as suggested the lower capacity motor will run and make up the "RPM's" lost. Now won't the smaller capacity motor need to dispense an equal amount of energy to "charge" this flywheel bank? Or rather we can sum it up like the higher capacity motor is a "fast charger" and the lower capacity motor is a "slow charger"? Now to take it another step further the losses of the smaller capacity motor is to be also considered. Also, not to mention that your alternator/PMG is always meshed, needless to say, even they have losses to be considered. In my opinion I would rather call this an uninterruptible power supply, where you charge a battery and use it when the power goes or there is a low voltage! So, my conclusion on this is that flywheels are to be used to avoid "jerks" in the supply system and not to multiply or generate power.
😂😂 exactly it's just onether misunderstanding of simple energy conversion.. fly wheel is just a power storage device.. there were even vehicles in the 1940s that used it but it was so inefficient.. he could just call it power divider instead of multiplication
Your talking is very exaggerated about the losses !!, ( The bearing losses are also very small ) There are also no (frictional losses) except with air(still small), but there are losses due to magnetic fields and Eddy currents ! generally, The motor/generator is known for its high efficiency. yes, the Flywheel consider as power multiplication because it gives more energy than you put into it !
this is actually really impressive. Those bearings are a very good engineering design choice same with the flywheels. Pulley and shaft shape could be changed for a more efficient energy transfer. Great job
Multiply Input voltage with current to calculate input power. then use the same way to calculate output power. Now you have to consider the time. I mean calculate the Watt hour. compare Input watt hour with output watt hour, then you will see output watt(load) is decrease as stored energy in the fly wheel is finishing. Which makes you understand that it is not possible to generate more power than input. You should start studying both mechanical and electrical engineering.
After your success my selute to you sir getting patient is your biggest achievement. Now it's our government's responsibility to bring this technology to everybody's life. 👍
This certainly is a great example of energy storage, but not “free energy”. One thing I did not hear you comment on is mechanical losses. There is friction here... there has to be. This machine is also extremely dangerous. How it was balanced would appear to be pretty scary. That welded plate on the wheel is representative of an effort... but...
The higher out amps compared to input amps is one thing however, I am most interested in the "total" input energy vs total output energy using accurate and documented (recorded) measurements of all dissipated energies. I suspect that the stored energy in the flywheels presents the apparent 'free' energy gain. In effect you are likely just slowly running down the stored inertial energy of the flywheels. Thus you will only 'apparently' be able to generate 'free' energy for a constrained time period. This can be proven another way and that is by maintaining the angular velocity of the flywheels under heavy load and taking measurements under that condition.
So if I understand this right, the energy to maintain the rotation of the flywheels is less than the energy that can be used to generate power. Your energy loss is condensed to the initial start up of the flywheels, which is significant, but once the flywheels are in motion your input is less than the output. This is still an energy storage device in practicality, but that in itself is very valuable. Imagine scaling to the 100 ton flywheel size, and using mechanical wind power through a variable gearbox to increase the RPM of the flywheels during peak wind. Then you could draw electricity from a series of generators when needed at a variety of voltages at what ever amps needed at the time. Even excess Photo-voltaic energy could be used to increase the rpm during peak sunlight periods . With these two energy sources producing the power to generate the RPM the generators would slowly reduce the RPM when producing electricity on demand. There is not a total energy multiplication, once you take in the start up energy needed, but it is an excellent way to store the energy from wind and solar, both of which are variable. Keep up the good work
@CNC Basic If you understand vector and scalar forces. Gravity is a vector force. You know what it means? Certainly no. When you refer to energy you are talking about a scalar force.
@CNC Basic You skipped Biology classes as well? If yes do some research in Internet. Have you heard about motor nerve3, spinal cord, Nerve cells and Brain. I don't want to Physics and Biology classes. You stay in your ignorance. Good for you.
Energy in = less energy out (loss due to friction etc). The form of energy does not matter. So there is no power multiplication. Though energy storing in an 8 ton flywheel is a good idea. You can rotate the flywheel (when the bearing is ok) by hand or a few Watts source, you don't need 20 Kilowatt to make it spin. So that does not tell something about efficiency. Input amp = 15 A and output Amp is 28 A, that also does not tell anything about efficiency and input power versus output power. Watt = Electrical Power = Volt x Ampère (DC situation). Anyway: a good idea to store energy this way.
yes, same thinking.. he is saying that we are having more enery out than input, 15A in 28A out, but he is missing that what he is getting out he stored that energy in the system at the beganing. i think he is engineer but i just can't understand how he missed that. but as u said it is ok to store the energy, like a bigg capacitor in electronics
A pendulam gives twice the energy that is input. This is not magic. The angular momentum of the rotating earth is transferring energy through gravitational force field. The fly wheel works similar to a pendulam.
You are talking nonsense. Of course you can get MeggaWatts of free energy just from the air. Only the electric lobby (and their corrupt governments) keeps us buying energy from their power plants. It is massive government conspiracy. They even changed the physic books and are force teaching in schools some fake laws of energy conservation, it is all lies. Flywheel will give you as much free energy as anybody needs.
Flywheels are used as a cheap and easy way of storing rotational power. The greater the diameter and mass, the longer it will rotate after power is no longer applied to the system. The flywheel will eventually stop rotating. I'm not sure if the presenter properly explained this.
hello I really appreciate your engineering design and you have explained your design extremely well and I'm feeling like I didn't get the generator output but I do observe your amp output and input please provide me the KW / Volts so that I can know this much better way
So basically he is saying that he defied basic law of conservation of energy? Come on "free energy" is just a scam. Secondly ampere comparison is not accurate thing to do. Ampere has no significance without voltage. If he is true that output amps are higher than input amps, input voltage must also be higher so there's no free energy generated.
Thanks for such hard work, but two questions; 1, if your input is 20 KW, then how much is the output (sure, it should be more than output) and 2, when we use about maximum output of system, does the input machine support it? as I experienced it, it doesn't and gets slowly stopped..
When I was at School in the 90's I asked my Physics teacher about this concept, I was reminded of the laws of conservation, and the class carried on. I knew it was a good idea! Scaled up, with gearing, this concept will rock!
Who made the law of conservation?? Human or God?? Who can make law?? If God make the law I will accept. If human made the law - I will say that is cheating.., because of fuel Market. I
@@anbarasanstalin5998 the law of conservation of energy is not a legal law, its simply a description of reality. Energy can be converted from one form to another, but never lost or created out of nothing. Its just how shit works.
@@anbarasanstalin5998 This guy @brahm-ahamasmi should change his name to Scientist-o-Asmi.... These people desecrate Hinduism by keeping such names....
This might sound crazy but if you stand this on its head so that the fly wheels are horizontal they will be easier to start rotating they will still produce the maximum stored kinetic energy but because they’re sideways the weight is distributed more evenly try it and you will find out this is true
What is new or special here? Off the shelf components (geni and motor) which all have specific losses in doing their work. (Eddy current , copper losses, etc.) Given you are throwing away this energy as you try to spin up the big flywheel you can never get it back. This system is good for an uninterruptible power supply that can keep supplying a continuous waveform during a short interruption of mains power while there is a switchover to battery power to spin the flywheel/generator until the utility power is restored. We had this technology where I work for years since the 1980s and that flywheel powered device which provided our sensitive technical environment with constant power was called a PILLAR system ( German Technology I think) and it used the flywheel effect to overcome losses in mains power for milliseconds while batteries took over in keeping the flywheel spinning at synchronous speed..There is no free power here and what needs to be calculated is the efficiency which is always less than 100% = 1.
This flywheel system was in use to get uninterruptible AC power supply in telecommunication system. The flywheel keep the driving shaft rotating during switch over from motor to generator through a magnetic clutch. (Old system)
I have designed an active steering wheel that once accelerated cannot stop its march, it is much lighter than that common steering wheel shown in the Video ... / I have combined the absolute movement, with the relative movement, the Potential of the gravitational force with mechanical energy The machine is universally applicable and infinite useful possibilities // Yo he diseñado un volante activo que una vez acelerado no puede detener su marcha, es mucho más liviano que ése volante común mostrado en el Vídeo... / He combinado el movimiento absoluto, con el movimiento relativo, el Potencial de la fuerza gravitacional con la energía mecánica La máquina es de aplicación universal y posibilidades útiles infinitas
So basically he is saying that he defied basic law of conservation of energy? Come on "free energy" is just a scam. Secondly ampere comparison is not accurate thing to do. Ampere has no significance without voltage. If he is true that output amps are higher than input amps, input voltage must also be higher so there's no free energy generated.
I built a device once that had several disks all larger than the next. I think I had 10 in all. The smallest 4 inches and the largest 4 feet in diameter. Each disk had aluminum plates on the outer edge side facing the next larger disk. Each disk had magnets on the side facing the smaller disk place in the diameter of the next smaller disk. All except 2 of the disks were on a shaft with bearings that would turn independently of each other except for the largest disk was attached to the shaft. The very smallest disk was attached to a 9 volt motor about the diameter of a quarter. I would turn on the motor and it would spin. This would start the bigger second disk spinning and the second d would start the bigger third and so on. I was able to spin the 4 foot disk at about 135 rpm in the end. You could slow the largest disk with a load and have very little affect on the smaller disks. I have torn it apart and the rennets are still in my basement. I would love to see this built to low tolerance specs. Maybe even use copper plates or coils instead of aluminum plates. Mine was cut out on a table saw from 3/4 project board and some parts made on my cnc router to hold bearings and such.
Flywheel energy storage systems using mechanical bearings can lose 20% to 50% of their energy in two hours. Much of the friction responsible for this energy loss results from the flywheel changing orientation due to the rotation of the earth (an effect similar to that shown by a Foucault pendulum). This change in orientation is resisted by the gyroscopic forces exerted by the flywheel's angular momentum, thus exerting a force against the mechanical bearings. This force increases friction. This can be avoided by aligning the flywheel's axis of rotation parallel to that of the earth's axis of rotation. Conversely, flywheels with magnetic bearings and high vacuum can maintain 97% mechanical efficiency, and 85% round trip efficiency. #Wikipedia# Flywheel energy storage has been used in public transport and even in mining vehicles. There is nothing nonsense in this contraption (well you have to turn volume to zero), only very low efficiency.
This is fascinating. I wonder if this concept can be modified to incorporate snowmobile-style CVT (Continuously Variable Transmission) Primary and Secondary clutches? Though the gearing changes are technically infinite, in reality, it's comparable to having, say, a 3-speed bicycle except no jarring gear changes are needed. I do believe the snowmobile belt design is superior to the standard V-belts used here as well, though finding them in the correct length needed for this application could be quite problematic. Of question would be if the benefits would overcome the increased complexity and friction due to more moving parts.
All of the stuff in this comment is true, although storing energy in flywheels is not the subject of the video. The video essentially claims that the efficiency is over 100% and is therefore creating energy. Energy storage in flywheels is ordinary, and is all that is happening in this video. Not only is no additional energy generated, energy is lost due to the forces discussed in the above comment. You can’t create infinite energy with flywheels, no matter how much you hope and dream about it.
@@GangsterBusiness flywheel vehicles are not new, I think in England , a flywheel based tram system was developed (I don’t remember the name of the town), but this was discontinued as it’s not a efficient system
May be this particular video is helping the particular people today to Research on this particular way of generating the free particular Electricity, and the video had used the word "particular" in such a particular way, but I'm shocked that nobody on this entire planet noticed the word "particular" in this particular video. I appreciate your particular idea.
Mopuri Balu from puttaparthi. Chaganti sir, l respect ur hardwork. you are not generating new power.you just are storing grid/battery power in flywheel for sometimes.
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Dear people, since electricity is supplied to remote villages with thin wires, it becomes impossible to use devices with a high peak load, this device was created for this. At the time of using high power, the shortage is covered from the energy that is stored in the flywheel.
Looks very fun. When you said this is not an energy storage i kinda didnt understand anything that followed. A bit like buying batteries that arent energy storage, i have trouble understanding the concept of whats going on lol. But would love to see one of those flywheels in a vacume levitating on magnets :)
Fascinating concept, have you thought of using toothed drive belts that will not require as much tension so cutting down on the friction required for "V" belts.
This is the electrical equivalent of chopping a 2x4 block of wood in half and bragging that you've multiplied it into a 1x8. Having more current coming out than is going in is meaningless without a measurement of voltage at both sides, otherwise the high pressure nozzle on my garden hose is "multiplying" water because it comes out at high pressure.
I think he is using it for Momentum. Your 2x4 to 1x8block is like your saying it’s just as efficient for Amazon to deliver packages across states using small vans instead of Tractor Trailers. It’s going to take the same effort? So why not use the smaller option?
In this video you discuss about gear box. Why we need gear box. You future plans to pose drive motor and flywheel and alternator will be in straight a line for more efficiency. It's good idea. I am planning to make one green power generator like this for my home load.
6000 rpm on plummer blocks, I dought it I know of some car engines that don't rev that high. At first those flywheels looked as though they were only doing a couple a hundred rims. Those plumber blocks would overheat at 6 grand and fry the lube and then the bearings size and then the whole gizmo would just fly to bits with desasterous results, maybe 600 rpm is more likely and those big flywheels would have to be precisionly balanced otherwise any imbalance would shake the whole contraption to bits and I don't think I would like be near that thing when it's spinning at 6000 rpm and one of those flywheels decides to seperate and break free from that thing.
@@Lesdig891: " Where were you educated? " Why were you NOT educated? His points are spot on. If you're stupid enough to believe ANY of these free energy liars you deserve to waste money trying to replicate their garbage since you're obviously too stupid to understand there is no free energy from ANY of these stupid (and in this case and many others) dangerous contraptions.
@@lorditsprobingtime6668 chill out asshole hahaha it was a simple question I didn't dispute his points I was just wondering if he had a degree in mechanical engineering or something
@@Lesdig891 Your insinuation was that he's not qualified to have the opinion he has a hole. Now you're lying about your intent to 'try' and sound slightly more reasonable, you're just an idiot who wants to try and sound superior, screw you.
@@lorditsprobingtime6668 these people aren't building things and wasting their time and money because it doesn't work! These things work!! People generate power for their homes for free! I've seen many people build these types of things, they work!
Very Good Bhaskar If you were here in Brazil, a project like this in the industries here in my region you would sell quietly, very good. How many KWA does this plant produce?
Sir,I tried this experiment,it didnt work,then I asked one scientist,he told me,we can never generate electricity ,with electric motor and dynamo interconnected,the forces will cancel eachother and become zero,this is because the more the electricity , motor draws ,the Tighter the dynamo armature becomes,and slows down the motor, and finally the motor comes to stop ,that is what that scientist told me. But with the help of flywheel if you are able to make it successful ,then it is a good invention,very good sir, keep it up.
What if we use electric generator to rotate a big flywheel in Vaccum. It will give enough momentum to generate electricity for 3-4hours enough for short powercuts. What do u think??
Once you findout how to produce torque n.m then these systems will start working! Kinetic energy from wheels only stores joules that can only make flywheels function like batteries! You will have some power but for short time! A very high effecient flywheel vacuum system with weight of 1ton and 20000-100000rpm can provide only for 24 hours of 2-3kw stored electricity!
Not 24 hours but 15-18hr in real world. Vaccum is good Idea but still it will make 18hr energy max. Then it will need generator to Again make it gain momentum.
the flywheel version of "keep your eye on the ball under these cups" game. You're not getting more out than you're putting in or the flywheel would stop. The draw on the generators eventually acts as a brake. kW in > kW out. cant beat thermodynamics.
Interesting research! Keep up the good work. I'm sure in time you will improve the design close to perfection. In the meantime, I think I will stick to my LiFePO4 battery bank to store my access solar energy.
I was studying this system and in my case, I was astonished until I tried to grasp the whole thing. Then , here it goes the explanation for the analyzed system : Electric Generator (let's say 5 Kw @ 3650 r.p.m rated power) power is generated from a Motor which only provides ( let's say 3 Kw @ 1725 rated power) . At first glance it seems as if the system where generating (5-3 = 2 Kw) . However we must be aware that High Inertia Values from Flywheels impossed high loads to the motor . The motor tries to achive this exigent load varying its working point , reducing its rated angular velocity (increasing motor slip , decreasing for instance to 1600 r.p.m ) and when this happens , the current and obviously power comsumption will be increased to respond this higher than rated load. Depending on the motor kind this new working current could be as high as 5 times the rated current , so , It's normal that power consumption could be twice or three times the rated power for the motor . I stronly recommend you guys to watch an induction motor torque power curve. In conclusion , Motor really demands 6 Kw ( 2(double in demanding power ) * 3 (rated motor power )) . With this established , it is clear that we have not broken 1st thermodynamics rule : (Motor power = 6 KW ) = (Genarator power = 5 KW ) + (loses = 1 KW) As you probably know this 1 KW lose energy must include: *Friction with air. *Noise levels. *Mechanical transmission loses .... etc . Pd. It was really curious that in the video He measured Voltage and Current , but , unfornately he didn't measure the output voltage in the generator ... he did measured only the output current.... Looking forward to hearing some replies
In other words its, super high efficiency using the flywheel to scalp off exrtra energy that normally would be lost or unused How efficienct do you think it is...60 ..70...80...90...95.%?.cause that's a big ass fly wheel ....wouldn't want to be any where near that when the bearing fails.
Great suggestion ! I was planning on using PV to provide continuous power but I realised that my battery could run out at night. So, your suggestion about using a pulsed input/output from a primary power source is quite a tantalising one !!
Good Job Sir ! This American Salutes your Skills ! I am subscribing to your channel so I can see how you Engineer & Correct The Negative's !! ( Trial & Error ) is how we make things better !!
So basically he is saying that he defied basic law of conservation of energy? Come on "free energy" is just a scam. Secondly ampere comparison is not accurate thing to do. Ampere has no significance without voltage. If he is true that output amps are higher than input amps, input voltage must also be higher so there's no free energy generated.
Sitting on uneven, un level Sitting on uneven and unlevel ground and not anchored, I wouldn’t want to be anywhere near that thing when it hits 6000 rpm.
Any further development/break through in these six years? If one can get more output than input, this technique can be beneficially utilised for power production, is it not? Less pollution. More green.
You can put a bicycle instead of the motor, and start the flywheels manually... then it is totally free energy. Of course the bicycle should be electric to help you do the work.
Sir fly wheel can be modified as narrow bace, broad head,,,,,but with maintening total wait equal as earlier I think it will increased input and output efficiency
I am a Industrial Electrician and have been for 45 years and am highly experienced with large electric motors , generators , alternators and especially Variable Speed Drives (VSD) . Now ...... The only energy input into this "machine" I can see is the large 3 phase motor (light green) which is supplied thru the large VSD in the building which allows them to control the speed of the whole system . Huge concern !!!! I see no earthing or machinery bonding what so ever . Very disturbing . No true electrician was involved in hooking up this debacle. He is claiming that more energy can be derived from the assembly than is inserted from the large motor . NO! I estimate with the Vbelts , the very large bearings , even the motor and "Generator" bearings plus the wind resistance on the flywheels at least 15 to 20% of the energy (electric power going in) is consumed by these alone . It looks like he is claiming that when he revs up the flywheel with large motor , then turns that off and "runs" the system then with the little motor (never saw that) then he can connect the generators and pull free energy out of the system , NO NO NO NO he can't , and I suspect as the flywheels run down ,as they will, he has connected a generator to the flywheel and its output to the "small electric motor and thinks that will keep the system running (it won't) .. If he believes that and he seems to have convinced a whole lot of people of such a miracle including the Telengana state government by inviting him to exhibit his invention on independence day celebration, he is either one of 2 things . Extremely naive and dare I say "stupid" certainly not an engineer or he is a con man ! This is an energy storage device yes , very inefficient but yes ! But it is not and there is no such thing as a power multiplying device that can subtract energy out of nowhere and utilise it . There is a lot of power stored in the flywheels especially at 6000rpm (i wouldn't stand near it !) but that power /energy comes from the large electric motor initially and no where else . Throughout the whole universe the equation is : power in = power out minus loses (friction) . In that equation is the death of all perpetual motion machines !
all you say is theory and blah blah ... in all neutrality, if you think it is a scam then prove it, as he does by experience or otherwise you shut up. thank you
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You are talking nonsense. Of course you can get MeggaWatts of free energy just from the air. Only the electric lobby (and their corrupt governments) keeps us buying energy from their power plants. It is massive government conspiracy. They even changed the physic books and are force teaching in schools some fake laws of energy conservation, it is all lies. Flywheel will give you as much free energy as anybody needs.
This particular flywheel will keep accelerating, reaching 99% of the speed of light. Generating more energy than all the combined stars, black holes, aliens, pulsars, in the universe .
It’s essential to building a time machine since there’s no gasoline and electricity in the ancient past like whenever that WW II thing happened. Come on man! You know what I mean!
When this machine inaugurated and launched Iron Man and Spider Man will be there so that they can save our human life from extreme energy generation by this machine.
This is very old technology using the pendulum effect through flywheel, Russians already developed 10 kVA generator which can be install in drawing room! But I will appreciate your efforts too you!
Can you see the electrons coming out of the plug in the wall ? we are living in a world of energy he's not building electrons or energy just capturing work in a way which is useful . you also need to realize that there is a huge amount of energy in the natural environment even at 0 degrees there is still 240 odd degrees to you get to 0 calvin . There was a guy years ago made the worlds most efficient heat pump using gases that boiled at -50 odd F so he was able to produce steam to drive turbine even if outside temps were low , he got sent to jail for literally no reason
Dear Sir, can you explain the energy balance through calculation ? I mean once you couple the electric load to the generator and KE stored in flywheel is absorbed how its going to be restored?
Correct me if I am wrong, but the man did mention that the system will stop in 2 hours. I could live with that and restart it every 2 hours! Its free and I am not to lazy to research how to auto- start it!
