I chose the walther in 4.5" barrel. I personally love the trigger. I had actually narrowed my purchase down to these 3 specifically. My only problem(and a big one for me) with the vp9 is that mag release- I can't hit it with my finger or thumb without substantially breaking my point of aim. The 509 is what I was really leaning toward until I compared the trigger with the walther's. And to be honest I likely would have chosen the 509 if the shop would have had one in FDE. But the trigger, mag release, grip, and slide serrations on the walther all felt just a hair better to me than the FN. (Plus my wife already has a ppq m2 tha I liked pretty well.) Great review.
"My only problem(and a big one for me) with the vp9 is that mag release- I can't hit it with my finger or thumb without substantially breaking my point of aim." Are you saying that you reload always by maintaining your point of aim, throughout the entire reload process? If so, I'd wonder why you do that.
@@seanoneil277 TLDR: I prefer to keep my eyes on my surroundings/enemy, when vulnerable especially. I try to, Yes. Why? Thats a good question, it isn't like I can put rounds down range with an empty chamber. Perhaps it a practice thing, but I don't think it should take a whole lot of concentration for a mag swap. Under pressure seconds and milliseconds count. I prefer to be able to keep a constant watch on surroundings as much as possible, especially during reload/malfunction clearing/etc. Breaking line of sight means focusing on something else however momentarily it may be. It's not a lot of time but if ever in a gunfight(more and more possible these days) and I can't find cover, I'd rather not have to concentrate on it so much that I break line of sight for a mag swap. Additionally, target reacquisition is easier if I don't leave line of sight. A lot easier? Maybe maybe not, but as I said milliseconds count when your life is on the line. Thats why the PDP works better for me. Mag dump is a simple press of my thumb. The VP9, as much as I love it- and I really do, I should not be forced to reposition my grip and position in order to access the mag release. The way it's made I don't see a way, even with loads of practice, to quickly and easily drop an empty mag. I hope this makes sense.
@@happysnowfish Thank you. I misunderstood what you meant. Basically, it's due to having to shift your grip for mag release button press -- and I understand the concerns about that.
I think all three are great guns it comes down to personal preference I have the VP 9 b optic ready. I bought it because the ergonomics were perfect for my hand size and the excellent trigger
Walther has the best striker trigger out there. I dont own a PDP yet, but I own the Q4 Steel Frame and it's incredible. Super heavy though, so only winter carry OWB.
Naturally a 3” 9mm is going to feel different firing than a 4” 9mm. More snap, muzzle flip, with the shorter barbell. That and most often round capacity is what you sacrifice with an easier to conceal 9mm handgun. Apples vs pears.
The "issue" was started by a RU-vidr claiming that, according to his "expertise," the base cut for the optic plate was "poorly designed and it would fail"... and so it spread out like a "wildfire" as a "fact." But the opposite has been demonstrated. I own two Walther PDP models, compact and full size with red dot optics and zero issues after 700 rounds fired with the compact and about one-thousand fired with the full size (5" barrel). Rumors become "reality" on social media.
I own pdp 5", vp9l, ls edge + the mete sfx. And tbh, sfx is my most fav of all. Then comes the pdp then ls edge and then vp9l (personally don't like the grip of the vp9l). Good review tho
Wow, I just shot all 3 of these this week. I loved the 509, but trigger was a little heavy. The Walther I thought was bouncy & I did the same with the trigger. However, the 2nd time I shot the Walther, on a different day, I absolutely loved it. Tight groups and I quickly loved the trigger. VP9 was meh. I already have an HK P30L & P30SK. It's so tough, they're all great guns. I think I need to do 1 more test with all 3 before making a decision. Great video, thanks.
I can tell she is alittle bias. The fn 509 was going to win the minute i heard her describing it lol. She describe the other 2 like she really didnt want to 😂
OP keep your elbows pointing out perpendicular to ground, youll get more recoil control as the oppsing outward pressure on grip woll mitigate recoil better. The PDP requires a monstor death grip but if u do its very fast. The pdp is hard for females to shoot fast because it requires super strong manly grip that females lack. Try lifting weights by doing curls forearm curls.
See! Picking a pistol is such a personal choice. I hate blanket statements from people that say “this gun sucks. That gun sucks. The only gun to own is (fill in the blank). This gun is better than that gun and that is fact”….etc. For me, my full size PDP 5 inch is absolutely perfect for me. My VP9 has spent more time parked in my safe since I got the Walther. The VP9 is not a bad gun at all. It!s really nice. Even though I don’t like the European paddle style mag release. But find what you like no matter what anyone else says and train train train with it.
I really am intrigued by the fn edge but scared to buy then find out it sucks. 75ft free standing is the bench mark and the onky pistol that can do that is the walther PDP with Apex flat trigger. Not sure the 509 with grity and 7lb trigger wouldcdo it. Believe it or not my stock gen 5 glock 20 at 75ft is very accurate. I put overwatch precision precision in all glocks but the stock staple gyn like trigger is good
This a decent comparison of the 3 but in the end this only seems like there might be a little confirmation bias for the VP9. I'm not knocking his decision, if it is a better gun for him so be it and good for him. Overall, this is just not convincing me that I should buy one over the others. I do wonder for what purpose he bought this particular firearm for in the first place since he started with a firearm more conducive to concealed carry in the Shield Plus.
I agree. I sold my FN 509 full size precisely because the horrible trigger action on it. If you want the best trigger on a striker-fired handgun, get a Walther, an H&K, a CZ, a Canik METE, but not a FN! p Particularly, the overhyped and overpriced LS Edge.
Walther PDP and the fn LS are the two most overrated pistols I’ve ever shot. The fn shoots well but not for the price. The pdp muzzle flip is dumb. Of those 3 id choose the HK. I’d take a CZ p01 or pcr over any of those 3.
@@space8053 buddy I’ve put literally 1000s of rounds down range. They are all pistols and 100% comparable. Do you really think I don’t know what the difference between a striker fire and a Da/sa gun is?
@@martina6212 It's impossible for me to know what you know and what you don't.The CZ pistols you mentioned aren't even close in comparison to the pistols listed in the video besides their firing systems. The pistols in the video are also all polymer framed. The CZ's are steel or aluminum framed. The pistols in the video all have an optics cut slide. The CZ's do not. Apples to oranges sir.
@@space8053 buddy they are both pistols that are semi auto that carry relatively similar with similar weight with similar or the same capacity in similar price ranges. 100% comparable.
