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Fnatic 2018: The Team The West Forgot 

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In this short documentary, we look back on 2018 Fnatic, the team that first made Western fans believe that a Western team could win the World Championship.
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@alphamf0
@alphamf0 10 месяцев назад
Caps' true prime, this team lives rent free in my head
@darthunleashed
@darthunleashed 10 месяцев назад
Nope, too inconsistent at that time, single handedly lost the finals
@waterwet2305
@waterwet2305 10 месяцев назад
Caps got gapped by both Rookie and Scout at the tournament
@mattw4k266
@mattw4k266 10 месяцев назад
@@darthunleashed it wasn't just caps. Broxah and Hyli were stagnant and too late on their rotations. Bwipo played a little too far forward without any vision or map awareness. & Dylan and Rekkless were idiots on drafts trying to get a counter botlane matchup rather than leaving the counterpicks for their solo laners and waiting till stage 2 of the drafts allowing IG to ban out rekkless's best ADC's.
@Ps-we3pp
@Ps-we3pp 9 месяцев назад
caps prime was MSI season 9 finals my dude
@user-ek7yc5zm1v
@user-ek7yc5zm1v 9 месяцев назад
​@@mattw4k266it still proves it's not close to his prime
@tomascenec3103
@tomascenec3103 10 месяцев назад
Still hurts till today. Never forget 2018 FNC.
@brammutje15
@brammutje15 10 месяцев назад
Historic roster. when fnatic had true grit and just starpower to overcome the east. the hyper int playstyle from hylli and disciplined rekkles somehow making a fantastic team environment. broxah had hands for one year. good memories. theshy just built different sadge
@stefankatsarov5806
@stefankatsarov5806 10 месяцев назад
They didnt overcome no one. Before 2018 EU teams where on the level of LPL so it wasnt unexpected to beat an LPL team and ecpetially the 3rd seed. They beat IG in groups, but a similar thing hapened the next year whit FPX and SPY. The same year G2 beat RNG too, so it wasnt just FNC who beat them. And then it comes the semis which was C9. Also Korea wasnt good that year. The reason Capa left was because that team was not on the level it was needed to win, they where actially a britle team that didnt get tested until the finals at worlds and then they collapsed.
@combeebrian247
@combeebrian247 10 месяцев назад
Nah, Caps is the KD of LoL
@stefankatsarov5806
@stefankatsarov5806 10 месяцев назад
@@combeebrian247 How is he KD. He was taken as a rookie ( even tho he had a title in Turkey ) in a top team for 2 years and then whent to another top team and he has been there for 5 years in good and bad. He also won in every team he has played for and hasn't talked shit to anyone or about anyting.
@Pilv11
@Pilv11 10 месяцев назад
@@combeebrian247 who or what is KD?
@tonga874
@tonga874 10 месяцев назад
@@Pilv11 Kevin Durant
@JessWasMistaken
@JessWasMistaken 10 месяцев назад
2018 Fnatic is my all time favourite team, and this captured it all neatly. I’d give anything to go back to the moments before those finals games. It was so damn exciting before it all went wrong. Then came pure pain when the hope was ripped away, but I believed in them right till the end. It always feels wrong when I watch it back, an anomaly, as if losing wasn’t supposed to happen. Still sad to this day. Thanks for the cool video covering it all.
@SnakeAtomich
@SnakeAtomich 10 месяцев назад
2018 Fnatic always will be in our hearts, but I still love 2015 FNC, Cyanide, xPeke, that team man..
@emanresUcireneG
@emanresUcireneG 10 месяцев назад
@@SnakeAtomichthat’s 2014 - 2015 my favourite though.
@kaisamainhere
@kaisamainhere 10 месяцев назад
I love 2015 FNC xpeke too. And Origen froggen
@MrLowbob
@MrLowbob 9 месяцев назад
2015 huni, reignover, yellowstar was so fun to watch too. fnc had a lot of exciting rosters imo.
@honras2029
@honras2029 9 месяцев назад
​@@kaisamainherexpeke did not play for fnc in 2015
@janunger6685
@janunger6685 10 месяцев назад
Thank you for this video. Fnatic always gets pushed aside since they havent won since then but people just seem to forget how they paved the way. Im confindent that we will FNC at the top again at some point after all they always are close.
@nicomoreno9531
@nicomoreno9531 10 месяцев назад
also mention iG won 3-0 against a G2 that came from winning against RNG which was the favorite team of the tournament after winning both splits and MSI
@nuraby_9228
@nuraby_9228 10 месяцев назад
Riot was so terrified of RNG completing the golden road their entire pre worlds patch was aimed at nerfing RNG's playstyle. Totally screwed Uzi out of his potential world title.
@damiester1
@damiester1 10 месяцев назад
@@nuraby_9228 They do that whenever LPL looks dominant lol
@KazUwUmi
@KazUwUmi 10 месяцев назад
@@damiester1 they would have to rework the entire game to take jdg off form this year tho
@nathanhosea489
@nathanhosea489 10 месяцев назад
​​@@damiester1 It goes both ways. Last year's pre-MSI patch was specifically used to nerf some of T1's best champs
@nathanhosea489
@nathanhosea489 10 месяцев назад
​@@KazUwUmi That team is the best team I've ever seen. I don't think anyone will be able to stop them from completing the golden road this year
@lukiux1000
@lukiux1000 10 месяцев назад
Great video. FNC was a beast that year and it was not even close in Europe to anyone else. It's a bit ironic that FNC Worlds finals are not remembered but everyone remembers G2 although both teams were really stomped by the LPL.
@julianarnold21
@julianarnold21 10 месяцев назад
I'd even consider IG2018 far better than fpx2019 tbh, i think the only real difference is g2 winning msi that year, thats why they are remembered more - and g2 kinda made the meta in 2019
@couenneexquise5042
@couenneexquise5042 10 месяцев назад
People do remember 2018 finals lol, be it for the first lpl win at worlds (TheShy's peak year is literally a legend in LoL pro ecosystem) or the legendary stomp that happened in finals. Of course newcomers wouldn't know, but to the rest it is a famous year.
@ipogoz2166
@ipogoz2166 10 месяцев назад
NGL people remember 2019 G2 because they beat DWG and T1, you know DWG the team that won worlds the following year with 4 of the same players and SKT who were the LCK 1st seed and had the greatest player of all time. Compare that to FNC beating EDG and C9, keep in mind this is not worlds winning EDG, this is Ray toplane haro Jungle EDG they were by far the weakest LPL team. You could make a fair case that 2019 G2 was only the 3rd best team because IG looked very good, but FNC was at best the 4th, maybe even 5th best team at worlds in 2018, they just got blessed by the bracket gods putting IG, KT and RNG all on the other side of the bracket. You could honestly make a fair argument that 2018 G2 played better than 2018 FNC because at least 2018 G2 beat RNG(the team that won both LPL splits and MSI) whereas the best team FNC beat in Bo5s was EDG. Also another decent argument is timezones, fewer westerners watch FNC live in 2018 because worlds was in Korea and therefor had much worse viewing times for western fans whereas 2019 worlds was in Europe.
@AbyssContent
@AbyssContent 10 месяцев назад
@@julianarnold21 G2 was simply the kryptonite for SKT, they barely qualified to MSI play offs after a 5 - 5 score got stomped by IG in both legs, TL gave them the free title after beating IG lets be honest, G2 was so good but they were only that good against SKT
@fromtheday9461
@fromtheday9461 10 месяцев назад
2018-2020 FNC were so fucking good man
@Avhtjuh
@Avhtjuh 10 месяцев назад
This team made me fall in love with Fnatic and will always be my favorite line up
@Biditchoun
@Biditchoun 10 месяцев назад
For me it was 2015 Fnatic that made me love that team, lately I've really liked BDS though, I'd like them to grow well
@wowJhil
@wowJhil 10 месяцев назад
Another thing I feel that people are forgetting is how much of a rookie Caps was in 2017 but also still in 2018. He did some awesome plays, but you can also see him in many games not being the carry but rather the opposite. In hindsight I think people just summarize the 2018 and 2019 success with "Caps was in both teams", but lets be real, Caps 2018 wasn't the reason alone they made it that far. And sometimes maybe it was even despite his play that they pulled it through.
@stefankatsarov5806
@stefankatsarov5806 10 месяцев назад
Caps came in EU as a reining champion of the turkish region, the guy was a winner alredy.
@wowJhil
@wowJhil 10 месяцев назад
@@stefankatsarov5806 yes, but still people conveniently forget the struggle he still faced at the beginning, in between the impressive plays.
@Pilv11
@Pilv11 10 месяцев назад
Caps hard carried FNC, sure the rest of the team played well, but Caps was a large part for their success
@wowJhil
@wowJhil 10 месяцев назад
@@Pilv11 Yeah, but you can at the same time see him run it down, going something like 161 etc.
@Sabbely87
@Sabbely87 10 месяцев назад
@@stefankatsarov5806 thats why they called him craps first and everyone wanted him out? dont be stupid, he wasnt the carry everyone is making him to be.
@maxplay6563
@maxplay6563 10 месяцев назад
I'll never forget this lineup because it's the team that got me to watch esport. Insane memories there
@anderskjllesdalhansen9580
@anderskjllesdalhansen9580 10 месяцев назад
So fun to have this trip down memory lane. I actually had to go back to see the overview of the tournament. Seeing a north american team 3-0 Korea's second seed, former world champions Gen G go 1-5 in groups AND having 3/4 westerns teams in the semifinals only to be swept off the rug by IG. It is actually kinda hard to believe... Loved this. Keeping going bro
@darkin1484
@darkin1484 9 месяцев назад
I think this Fnatic 2018 Roster was the closest we ever were in the last decade to getting a world championship title. Noone yet has come close to this roster. Its just sad that they won 2 group stage games against them, but IG leveled up throughout the tournament and eventually prepped well for Fnatic and the result was the smashing defeat.
@mattiaskollnitz9794
@mattiaskollnitz9794 2 месяца назад
G2 vs FPX was closer, watch game 1 of that series
@lindsaymartinez5341
@lindsaymartinez5341 Месяц назад
​@@mattiaskollnitz9794 But G2 never won a game against FPX, FNC actually went 2-1 against IG before the knockout stages that is probably his basis
@mattiaskollnitz9794
@mattiaskollnitz9794 Месяц назад
@@lindsaymartinez5341 That isn't really good analysis though. What you compare are the actual world finals series. IG level up a lot from group stage.
@nicslos1978
@nicslos1978 10 месяцев назад
Wonderful video... I will never forget 2018 Fnatic. The Worlds were amazing. Thanks Mr. Broxah
@juanog86
@juanog86 10 месяцев назад
Thank you for the video. They did what was considered impossible at the time, but since G2 did it again the following year (and won the MSI), everyone forgot about Fnatic 2018.
@Nisced
@Nisced 10 месяцев назад
This Fnatic team and 2013 were my favorites. Good times. I still cry everytime I see that 1hp Nexus in 2014, which basically ended the xPeke & Cyanide era of Fnatic.
@pikminologueraisin2139
@pikminologueraisin2139 10 месяцев назад
I will never forget FNC sOAZ
@Kyrrua_
@Kyrrua_ 10 месяцев назад
Sadly the coaching staff did him so dirty
@maleldil1
@maleldil1 10 месяцев назад
@@Kyrrua_ Bwipo was better
@Magkoulhs4310G
@Magkoulhs4310G 10 месяцев назад
FNATIC IS NOT FORGOTEN, FNATIC ARE THE KINGS. ALWAYS FNATIC
@alekswysocki8478
@alekswysocki8478 10 месяцев назад
I just found this channel today but your content is so good and can definitely serve as a library of iconic LoL moments/players/rosters. I especially enjoy all of the discussions under the Mount Rushmore series. The community here is so good and reminded me of a few GOATs I forgot over the years. Keep up the good work and praise the algorithm. As a Fnatic fan since S6 it was a great nostalgia ride for me. I saw someone suggest a vid about UoL and it’s a great idea. If I could suggest something I think a vid on Kiedyś Miałem Team which later became Team Roccat could also be interesting - this is how the greatest jungler Europe has ever produced in Jankos was born and he wasn’t even supposed to play for that team. They just borrowed him for the tournament and he kinda stayed. Hit me up if you ever need more info on that topic. Greetings from Poland!
@cinematicesports
@cinematicesports 10 месяцев назад
I'm glad you're enjoying the videos and thank you for the suggestion! Definitely will love to do a video on Jankos and a little more on European lol history. I will let you know!
@nostalgialoltv
@nostalgialoltv 9 месяцев назад
great video, thanks man !
@davidbalgh3949
@davidbalgh3949 10 месяцев назад
i'd love if you made a video about UoL especially 2014-2017 i feel like that could be an entertaining video about how a "'troll" team almost won 2 splits in LEC
@cinematicesports
@cinematicesports 10 месяцев назад
Great suggestion! Definitely a very entertaining team and an interesting time to follow the lec/eu lcs. I will note this video idea for the future
@fallnashs856
@fallnashs856 10 месяцев назад
I remember them beating TSM at an IEM many years back. I think that was their first international tournament. Very fun to watch them
@wintersilence
@wintersilence 10 месяцев назад
@@cinematicesports Maybe not as interesting, but I always found the CIS team just as entertaining, if not more so, and its path through the LCL and even the team's dominance in the Prime League is fascinating just considering the organization as a whole, especially Sheepy as a coach. Probably less of an audience for it, but it might be interesting to look into.
@LordChaos2010
@LordChaos2010 10 месяцев назад
2017 was the first year I watched worlds and I do remember this part well.
@fullfradi95
@fullfradi95 10 месяцев назад
????
@LordChaos2010
@LordChaos2010 10 месяцев назад
@@fullfradi95 the 0 4 fnc in groups
@Biditchoun
@Biditchoun 10 месяцев назад
Not my first year watching, but indeed what a time to be a fnatic fan
@lakshansandesh9844
@lakshansandesh9844 10 месяцев назад
Where ever caps go it will be historic ❤️😍
@Sabbely87
@Sabbely87 10 месяцев назад
is it? there wasnt something historic since 2019, so, where is the history?
@raimesser3677
@raimesser3677 10 месяцев назад
Amazing video. In the similar topic, consider making a video about h2k 2016 worlds run, I feel they're also forgotten
@cinematicesports
@cinematicesports 10 месяцев назад
Great idea, I will make a note of it
@santyg9826
@santyg9826 9 месяцев назад
Love these team, that the reason why i love esports. Best EU team in all history.
@hendrikwolf1747
@hendrikwolf1747 10 месяцев назад
great video!
@JankaasQPO
@JankaasQPO 10 месяцев назад
Great video man!
@cinematicesports
@cinematicesports 10 месяцев назад
Thank you!
@tigermask7622
@tigermask7622 10 месяцев назад
I loved this team. Its confusing that Broxah and Bwipo are streamers now. I am glad we still get to watch them but wish they were pros still.
@Chesteritea
@Chesteritea 10 месяцев назад
Good documentary, Keep it up
@Fujiwara.Takumi1
@Fujiwara.Takumi1 10 месяцев назад
I loved 2018 Fnatic, if they held it together, they could have won it. IG was the the better team on the day and it showed. I think the TRUE forgotten team was Fnatic 2015. 18-0 in EU LCS Summer Split, undefeated worlds group stage, 3-0 EDG in the quarters. Only downfall of that team was Huni's arrogance leading to the 0-3 loss against Koo Tigers, had he been more humble, who knew what might have happened, tho SKT was UNSTOPPABLE that year.
@bungo1193
@bungo1193 10 месяцев назад
well the title didnt lie, this brought back memories I forgot I had
@finkesson
@finkesson 10 месяцев назад
I remember it so well. Worlds finals was playing the day I turned 16. Seeing the opening was so fucking hype. Sadly the games didn't live up to the hype. Would have been an amazing birthday gift to see Fnatic win worlds.
@davidkunakovsky3155
@davidkunakovsky3155 10 месяцев назад
Amazing video 🎉
@JoKeR19291
@JoKeR19291 10 месяцев назад
2018FNC is my all time favourite team. Rekkles caught my eye in2017 and he is my favourite player since then.
@j-zt
@j-zt 10 месяцев назад
I rewatched some of the games because of this. Looking back, FNC giga lost in draft. Giving up old Liss / Camille jung was completely int, especially with the runes at the time, and they pick no melee mid that just gives prio 1-5, and can't engage at 6 cuz aftershock.
@nikolakrastev8880
@nikolakrastev8880 10 месяцев назад
Great video
@mohammadshaarani4923
@mohammadshaarani4923 10 месяцев назад
Who are u not famous amazing vid
@jgmepgjlrmxcf2188
@jgmepgjlrmxcf2188 10 месяцев назад
The thing is they got hardly overshadow by 2019 G2 who was a very dominant team in inter tournament, and a clear favorite, when this fnatic team was good, but also appear to reach this stage because of a lot of the big team crumbling (RNG against G2, Afreeca against C9). in a lot of peoples mind the real final of 2018 was the infamous KT-IG in quarters.
@janisarbidans8931
@janisarbidans8931 10 месяцев назад
Im sorry but no. IG vs KT was literally 2 auto hits away from being clean 3-0 for IG. Same IG that lost to FNC in group stage couple days ago 2-1. IG clearly leveled up during tournament while fnc kinda stayed the same,especially ning who suddenly got hands. Afreeca was shit tier team,RNG was uzi and 4 wards. FNC beat EDG on their way to finals. Like how are we still gonna dick ride KT when entire region that year was dumpster fire.
@jgmepgjlrmxcf2188
@jgmepgjlrmxcf2188 10 месяцев назад
@@janisarbidans8931 said it "two auto away" their is no point bringing this as an argument. But still kt got the win, and the following one, and the game 5 was way closer than any of the finals one. U can think its dick riding, but its a fact that KT was the closest team to beat IG in the elimination stage, with fnatic in the other hand having one of the easiest path to the finals ever, especially when u compare to the one G2 had the years following. And yes, it was one of the weakest lck ever, but this kt squad was one of the best team of the tournament and was able, unless other korean team, to play through her solos
@janisarbidans8931
@janisarbidans8931 10 месяцев назад
@@jgmepgjlrmxcf2188 But FNC literally beat IG back to back couple days earlier to win nr 1 seed. They got same amount of wins as KT did against them lol how is their 2 wins against them meaningless while KT's amazing and finals worthy especially with ning playing like he had one hand in hes pants at all times. G2 had SKT as their hardest oponent in 2019 year. And against Chinese teams they folded just as fast and same would have happened in msi if not for TL cracking the code of century and beating IG. Im sorry but i just disagree with IG vs KT being the finals,especially when we all saw how good IG got over time as the tournament went on.
@jgmepgjlrmxcf2188
@jgmepgjlrmxcf2188 10 месяцев назад
​@@janisarbidans8931 because i do think - 1 its far hardest to win twice in a bo5 than winning twice in a group stage, one game being a tie-breaker (for obvious prep/in series mind game and draft idea) + u said it yourself IG went stronger as time goes by. Anyway , i never said fnatic wins were worthless, they were just less meaningfull. - and 2, yes i do think IG was miles ahead of everyone, but KT come as second with fnatic as a close third but i anyway can see a point in swapping them. To keep the point of my first comment, G2 wasnt a close 2nd/3rd, G2 WAS the favorites, going against a FPX wich had shown weakness in groups, and had an arguably easier bracket (because IG had lost a BO to TL earlier this year) ( and sorry, but G2 bracket of Damwon wich was one ghost away from world title and the SKT superteam WAS harder than Fnatic's edg /C9)
@darylmagbanua5943
@darylmagbanua5943 10 месяцев назад
Bruuhh,, Theshy didn't even respect this team. He ignored the draft and insta locked fiora because he can beat this team on his own. And in game 4, Duke played instead of the shy. People also forget how hard IG stomped KT in games 2-3.
@NiyaCathrel
@NiyaCathrel 10 месяцев назад
The 2015 line-up will always be my favourite, but FNC 2018 surely had something special
@G_Kchrst
@G_Kchrst 10 месяцев назад
Yeah and 2019 and 2020 teams were also very good. These rosters are so underrated.
@spacelizard5280
@spacelizard5280 10 месяцев назад
FNC 2020 is slept on. Rekkles and Hylli were smurfing out of their minds that year. It blew my mind rekkles left that team and Hylli in 2021.
@eKuely
@eKuely 10 месяцев назад
@@spacelizard5280 He left because it always ended up the same. He wanted to win so he went to G2. Which was a mistake as he himself claimed afterwards. Also he was in Fnatic since the start of his career (except the Alliance transfer? I think they were called that) so he might've been seeking new challenge too.
@spacelizard5280
@spacelizard5280 10 месяцев назад
@@eKuely Yeah I know. I was hoping that time would be different and he'd stay with Hyli. I think they were something special together. Yeah it was Alliance, who later rebranded to Elements, in 2015. Also Rekkles hasn't just been with FNC since the start of HIS career, he has been with them since the start of THEIR career, if you include the time he wanted to play with them, and they with him but he was too young to compete after age regulation changes.
@Biditchoun
@Biditchoun 10 месяцев назад
@@spacelizard5280 If you're talking about Hily, he used to play in UOL first (amazing team btw. Vizi's poppy, Kiki's tf and udyr and any other cheese picks, Febi's outplays and nashor tooth ori, they were not scared to play anything)
@spacelizard5280
@spacelizard5280 10 месяцев назад
@@Biditchoun I was talking about Rekkles. Kikis pulling out TF Jungle out of the blue was insane though, ngl True that UoL squad was stacked. It's a shame how Febi evolved throughout the years. He was insane in his FNC times.
@DONDONDON865
@DONDONDON865 10 месяцев назад
I got that rekkles jacket this piece is perfect.
@AtlasAdvice254
@AtlasAdvice254 10 месяцев назад
I never believed in 2019 that G2 could win against FPX, in large part because I watched FNC lose in the previous year's grand finals. But that year prior, that 2018 FNC team was truly something special, it was the only western team I ever truly believed could win against the titans of the east.
@ponglenis9273
@ponglenis9273 10 месяцев назад
Honestly, 2019 G2 was worse then 2018 fnc. The only difference was jankos being slightly better then broxah in2019, at a time were both were absolute monsters.
@XeonKnights
@XeonKnights 10 месяцев назад
I would personally say 2019 G2 is better than 2018 FNC. 2019 G2 was consist of the best player of every position that EU has ever produced, and they won pretty much everything other than the grand title, the talent was definitely there. But the 2019 FPX was, in my opinion, the most dominate championship team in the past recent years, they really wasn't challenged outside the semi-final against iG and some hiccups in group stage games. I really can't wait for another super team from EU like 2019 G2 to shine in the world stage.
@nathanhosea489
@nathanhosea489 8 месяцев назад
@@ponglenis9273 2019 G2 > 2018 FNC. They should have won Worlds that year, they got complacent
@nathanhosea489
@nathanhosea489 8 месяцев назад
2020 Damwon were even more insane @@XeonKnights
@ponglenis9273
@ponglenis9273 8 месяцев назад
@@nathanhosea489 bro caps sucked in 2 finals back2back, but 2018 was peak broxah, rekkles and hyli smurfing, toplane woth 2 great players. If you stop the bias fnc was far better in 2018 then g2 in 2019
@awesomejmd1183
@awesomejmd1183 9 месяцев назад
It really hurts being a FNC right now.
@MrLowbob
@MrLowbob 9 месяцев назад
caps is just insane. worlds finals, change team, going straight first place the whole season and worlds finals again. sadly no worlds championship trophy, but thats the closest you can get to one. and even won MSI 2019, too. any team + caps = insane. obviously his team mates both in fnc and g2 are insanely good too and imo dylan falco is SUCH a good coach, but still. the constant in those successes is caps.
@jacobbarnes8695
@jacobbarnes8695 10 месяцев назад
my god i miss those days
@nicolasaros3533
@nicolasaros3533 10 месяцев назад
Still the only eu team with skins in the game❤
10 месяцев назад
i think if sOAZ played from the start his experience coulda helped a lot
@mohamedabdelmoula1746
@mohamedabdelmoula1746 9 месяцев назад
That's why we love FNC
@pulisichhh
@pulisichhh 10 месяцев назад
Dylan Falco + YoungBuck - A duo made for success.
@Unrealforreal21
@Unrealforreal21 10 месяцев назад
this is also the same team that slammed Yummi Garen bot lane in the finals in all 3 games when their opponents clearly had an answer for it
@filipmaletic2245
@filipmaletic2245 10 месяцев назад
What 3 games which finals?
@nathanhosea489
@nathanhosea489 10 месяцев назад
@@filipmaletic2245 2019 Summer, 2-0 up vs G2
@fncam980
@fncam980 10 месяцев назад
This feels like a team and now we know that there was a lot of problems in fnatic 2018 but they still performed as a team like you can see the room is fall wity players and coaching stuff now its seems empty 1 or 2 coaches and our beloved dardo and thats it even legends in action is not the same the team culture is not the same
@alphamf0
@alphamf0 10 месяцев назад
Selling Caps is the single biggest mistake fnatic ever made as an org, their downfall begun then
@maleldil1
@maleldil1 10 месяцев назад
FNC didn't sell him. It was the end of his second year there, so he went to G2 on a free. The real mistake was creating an environment that Caps no longer thought could improve and compete.
@despicableglowee5207
@despicableglowee5207 10 месяцев назад
2018 worlds was when i started wantching lol esports. fnc are my heroes ever since.
@unLUCKY95
@unLUCKY95 9 месяцев назад
It might be because I've been a Fnatic fan for 10+ years, but it has always bugged me that since 2019 every one talks about G2 being the only EU team to really compete with the LCK and LPL and almost win worlds. Even in 2020 Fnatic took TES to the full 5 games in the worlds quarter finals, G2 were never the only competitive team. The really sad thing for EU fans in general is that both G2 and Fnatic didn't show up and play at the level they were capable of in the 2018 and 2019 finals, if they did I believe they both could have won at the time.
@davidkrivanka
@davidkrivanka 9 месяцев назад
2018 FNC were the strongest western team by far, it was beautiful, Rekkles in his time was for sure top5 in his prime arguably top2 adc in the world and ppl will clown him today "kda player, kekkles" like this dude was THE BEST adc in the west and its not even close, the best EU player in history and the most loved by fans, FNC is also the most succesful and influential western team. Show some respect for them even if they are not the best today.. But back then.. ♥
@zinnwolf1850
@zinnwolf1850 10 месяцев назад
As a Fnatic fan I have to say: "Ouch"
@yamiRic
@yamiRic 10 месяцев назад
as the players started to talk more about the final, there are several issues on why Fnatic could not fight IG at the final. The first is obviously Ning performance. Every fans and analysts pinpoint jungle and botlane as the weakness that Fnatic can exploit from IG. But Ning played like a monster in the final, earning MVP, and gaping Broxah. The second one is mentioned by Bwipo in TL channel. Fnatic, fans, and all analysts expect IG to put carry on top and mid because TheShy and Rookie are better laner than Bwipo and Caps. But instead, they put Sion on top so that they can pick Camille for Ning in jungle. Bwipo said that Fnatic never win any scrims game against IG when they have Camille jungle. It is Ning's comfort champion.
@Raikas
@Raikas 10 месяцев назад
Aaah the good times
@DEVILONBOTHSHOULDERS
@DEVILONBOTHSHOULDERS 10 месяцев назад
it’s amazing to think that caps is literally the lynchpin of every western success story
@ponglenis9273
@ponglenis9273 10 месяцев назад
2021 MAD Humanoid wants to have a word with you
@imlegend8108
@imlegend8108 10 месяцев назад
Problem is that quarter finals was the exit point. So its not rlly comparable. Despite some good looking teams on paper 2021 was one of the worst years for EU in recent history. Sadly its only got worse ever since 😂🥲
@SMashborn
@SMashborn 10 месяцев назад
Nahhh I still love and remember this 😊
@viniciusBR23
@viniciusBR23 10 месяцев назад
G2 might be considered the greatest EU org considering its recent success, but don’t forget who was standing as the west’s only hope for years. It’s always been Fnatic. 2011* Worlds winner (debatable tournament) 2013 Worlds semifinalists 2015 Worlds semifinalists They had reached top 4 multiple times before any other western team could get a glympse of it (OG in 2015). They were carrying not only EU, but the whole occident, while the rest could only watch and cheer. Reaching Worlds finals in 2018 was truly a statement, the culmination of their run, which could have been historical hadn’t IG had that substantial improvement through the Bo5s. Nevertheless, Fnatic deserves some more respect on its name, we can’t forget what they’ve done for the first 8 years of the sport.
@Vinilbo
@Vinilbo 10 месяцев назад
Apart from League Fnatic is bigger than G2. In Valorant they are the most dominant team in the moment too. Fnatic is in a bad time in league, but is one of the greatest orgs in the occident
@viniciusBR23
@viniciusBR23 10 месяцев назад
@@Vinilbo I have no doubt about it, my statement only considers League since it’s the only e-sport I truly follow. Totally forgot to mention it.
@Vinilbo
@Vinilbo 10 месяцев назад
@@viniciusBR23 agora q eu vi q tu eh BR kkkkkkk Mas eh isso ai, eu acompanho apenas LOL de e-sport e de vez em quando valorant (já q eh gosto da fnatic)
@amiswaggon
@amiswaggon 9 месяцев назад
I love the video, just needs a good voiceover.
@damiester1
@damiester1 10 месяцев назад
lol, this is a great video, but there was 1 point that I had to laugh a little at. The narration was, "Rekless finally made an impact in the botlane". So I took a look at the stats and JKL had 13/0/7 on Kaisa. Guess the narrative wasn't quite reflected by the results.
@Pottan23
@Pottan23 10 месяцев назад
He never says "in the botlane" though.
@mauletable
@mauletable 9 месяцев назад
I would never forget fnatic not letting Soaz play..
@bray7299
@bray7299 10 месяцев назад
Really good video, I think it could have been slightly more interesting if it wasn't entirely focused on Fnatic but instead went over all of the different story lines that happened in that tournament. You already talked about 5/7, five game series, but the other two are arguably the most interesting at least to me, you have the god performance from Perkz to carry G2 to a victory over RNG, and Na's first modern Bo5 victory against Korea. There are also so many different interesting aspects about the champion select logistics that I love, Hjarnan's Heimerdinger being pick/ban as far as I remember, Bwipo being arguably the best victor top being a big reason for their performance as well as Licorice having a pocket pick Hecarim counter to Aatrox making that pick weaker vs C9 come to mind. As should be obvious this is by far my favorite league tournament that has happened maybe second to MSI 2019. Still loved the video and keep up the good work.
@cinematicesports
@cinematicesports 10 месяцев назад
Thank you for the great feedback! I will definitely revisit aspects of this tournament in the future, as it's one of my favourites as well.
@stefankatsarov5806
@stefankatsarov5806 10 месяцев назад
It about FNC not the 2018 tornament.
@Rozi_one
@Rozi_one 10 месяцев назад
im so sad, this team has good chances to win worlds 2019 if they just keeps together... I remembered how i cried after 0-3 loss vs iG
@Maxaa7644
@Maxaa7644 10 месяцев назад
Please do the most dominant team in EU history, 2019 G2 next ! Your documentaries are so well produced and i'd love to see u covering them next :)
@cinematicesports
@cinematicesports 10 месяцев назад
I actually did a video on G2 2019! You should be able to find it on my channel. Thank you for your support! :)
@allainangcao28
@allainangcao28 9 месяцев назад
Sad fact, Caps is the only player to make back to back Worlds Finals and be swept both times. Both against LPL teams. Finals Record: 0-6 Pure pain...
@betteroffdead2
@betteroffdead2 10 месяцев назад
Caps wasn't ready for those supp roams at all, bwipo as well
@Holoflux
@Holoflux 9 месяцев назад
I considered Fnatic that year probably the best team in the world, up until the actual Finals that is and everything suddenly crumbled
@Craki_
@Craki_ 10 месяцев назад
They lit the flame
@wolfalpha4184
@wolfalpha4184 12 дней назад
Had the best roster with the best coaches, Dylan and Grabbz
@fejkyidk4227
@fejkyidk4227 10 месяцев назад
I loved 2018 FNC but realistically they could never beat that year's IG. They were dominant throughout whole year. Just couldn't win bo5 series against Uzi, who earned all the wins that year too
@0xandrae
@0xandrae 10 месяцев назад
"Falling comrades defeat" and the frame shows Mad Lions T_T 1647 will be in the history books
@GOTHICforLIFE1
@GOTHICforLIFE1 10 месяцев назад
Are they forgotten? Feels like they are always talked about together with 2019 G2? Of course G2 has a larger spotlight, but mostly because of their playstyle and less because of the talent and hype.
@ervinmontemayorsoe9789
@ervinmontemayorsoe9789 10 месяцев назад
If SoaZ was the top lane in the first 2 games it can possibly changed the series.
@izshtar
@izshtar 10 месяцев назад
it could probably do wonders since Bwipo had to be way too tilted in those games, way way too tilted.
@mvldayos
@mvldayos 10 месяцев назад
Damn bro I just looked through your channel and it's all really solid stuff. Do you have a twitter or a community I can join?
@lazerfruit2121
@lazerfruit2121 10 месяцев назад
FNC showed the world that EU was stronger than ever and there was a chance, G2 took the torch and ran with it, then MAD lions threw the torch on the ground and bent over for a spanking
@alfred_housekeeper
@alfred_housekeeper 10 месяцев назад
Never forgot them, always FNC, the only hope of Europe
@tsvetelintsvetoslavovzdrav579
@tsvetelintsvetoslavovzdrav579 10 месяцев назад
😂😂 Next joke
@alfred_housekeeper
@alfred_housekeeper 10 месяцев назад
@@tsvetelintsvetoslavovzdrav579 ??
@darthunleashed
@darthunleashed 10 месяцев назад
This is the best team that EU has ever produced. Too much favouritism for G2 who did nothing better internationally. They beat a dying SKT and Team Liquid in the finals of msi 😂😂😂😂
@by_Jamie
@by_Jamie 10 месяцев назад
as strong as they were, g2 2019 was just more fun to watch. the chemistry in the g2 2019 was insane. the voice comms were pure comedic gold. they literally defined the meta. perkz switching to adc and still played head to head with the best adcs. jankos. i dont need to talk about jankos. everyone knows jankos... lpl, lck, etc. everyone. and tbh caps was a bit shaky and inconsistent in fnc, but with g2 2019 he went beast mode. but still, yes fnc 2018 was still strong af. chemistry was a bit off in my opinion.
@xXMrPersieXx
@xXMrPersieXx 9 месяцев назад
2018 Fnatic > 2019 G2 I still believe that if Caps would have stayed, Fnatic would have been even more successful than the 2019 G2. To this day I dont understand why Caps did it, he was at the best team in europe and still decided to go to G2. I mean in the end he did the right thing, he won MSI, went again to worlds Finals and won the LEC multiple times but in the perspective as a player, why would you leave the best team in europe. Him leaving was the downfall of Fnatic, we tried so hard with lots of players but it didnt work out. I will never forget this Fnatic.
@QUINCEYYY9
@QUINCEYYY9 9 месяцев назад
Legit the only way they become more successful is winning worlds ? He could never do that with that 2018 roster, that's why he left :D
@zeichofreed79
@zeichofreed79 10 месяцев назад
In 2018 I was sure the west can catch the east, IG was faster In 2019 I really believe the west can finally beat the east, FPX was unpredictable Man, no west team can compete better in International league better than those two year
@radmiral9048
@radmiral9048 10 месяцев назад
ye we got worst performance in finals ever so dont talk shit they both just face their first real oponent in finals
@ponglenis9273
@ponglenis9273 10 месяцев назад
Honestly 2019 fnc was insane too. They were outshined by g2, but apart from fpx, the only team to make g2 sweat was fnc
@Biditchoun
@Biditchoun 10 месяцев назад
In 2018 I don't think there was any way for fnatic to win the finals, IG was just way too good. On the other hand G2 trolled hard in 2019, I personnally think that was by far the best shot the west ever had :/
@nathanhosea489
@nathanhosea489 8 месяцев назад
You can say that about FNC but that G2 team had beaten SKT in the semis. @@radmiral9048
@riseagainstthemachine6079
@riseagainstthemachine6079 10 месяцев назад
No one forgot them. People are just slowly picking up, that the tournaments suck and being finalists doesnt mean 2nd best team. You can even make a point for KT and RNG being a much better team then IG this year.
@SienAppelsien
@SienAppelsien 10 месяцев назад
Honestly, if the draw was just a little bit different as in KT got placed on the opposite side of IG, fnc wouldve probably never made this incredible run
@lucaspeterko2059
@lucaspeterko2059 10 месяцев назад
9:56 are we not gonna talk about how he oneshot that leona from 40% hp with a single basic?!?!?!
@ronjaysonparto4317
@ronjaysonparto4317 9 месяцев назад
that time when no one knows what happened to The Shy, He is just insane!
@konoeyoshito6105
@konoeyoshito6105 10 месяцев назад
yeah ,only thing they remember is g2 prob cuz they've won msi and beaten skt.
@tumbleweed5660
@tumbleweed5660 10 месяцев назад
if only they didn't draft a full ad comp with jhin against sion....
@jessencookie9852
@jessencookie9852 10 месяцев назад
did you mean CAPS?!?!
@salimniazi3331
@salimniazi3331 10 месяцев назад
Nah don't make me emotional man I thought we were on the right path of closing the gap but nowadays it seems like the gap will never close and has only gotten bigger
@TheiDTZ
@TheiDTZ 10 месяцев назад
The problem about fnc run to finals besides winning the tiebreaker vs ig was one of the easiest one ever, if not the easiest
@zenbozic6184
@zenbozic6184 10 месяцев назад
they ignited a burning cope within the west after the g2 defeat tho
@AlxThSeal
@AlxThSeal 10 месяцев назад
Miraculous season, but 2015 Fnatic is still the greatest western team of all time and had the biggest potential. Shame they choked against Koo
@ponglenis9273
@ponglenis9273 10 месяцев назад
Sorry but no. Febiven was a monster back then, but huni and reignover were complete coinflips.
@TheXxomasteroxx
@TheXxomasteroxx 10 месяцев назад
Is caps the only player in LOL history to lose back to back worlds finals?
@fabled2821
@fabled2821 10 месяцев назад
Can’t think of anyone else who has, off the top of my head. Maybe a substitute player, if anyone?
@arjunbanerji1891
@arjunbanerji1891 10 месяцев назад
Uzi 2013, 2014. Faker and Soaz have also lost 2 finals, but they weren't consecutive.
@waynevanilla
@waynevanilla 10 месяцев назад
but the europe league has regressed since then. no eu team made it back to the final since g2 2019 and that's like 4 years ago.
@OscarLT321
@OscarLT321 10 месяцев назад
Commenting before watching: 2019 G2 performance wise 'felt' better than 2018 FNC, even though the results were the same. Replying after watching
@ponglenis9273
@ponglenis9273 10 месяцев назад
Caps didn’t deserve anything he won by how ungrateful he was. Like it’s okay trying to improve and find a better team, and i know fnc had problems, but caps wasn’t the only thing fnc had. Hyli and rekkles on their peak, broxah was a monster, bwipo was basicly the best top eu… it was a monster roster. Take caps from g2, what do you have? Jankos. That was it.
@theminuteman6211
@theminuteman6211 10 месяцев назад
That hope they created has been shit on these past 2 years though. Let's see if it gets reignited this year.
@ebujunior6206
@ebujunior6206 10 месяцев назад
Fnatic always gets left behind especially the csgo team which was at its peak the most dominant in cs history maybe even all esports history exception of og in dota 2.
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