This is a cost savings removal process of the foam filled tires used by heavy equipment at Sierra Army Depot. Also check out our other capabilities at Sierra: • Sierra Army Depot: Cap...
Unfortunately for us we have How It's Made and damn, split rims would be great but because of lower cost and manufacturing process. This is easier, shazule I cant even bring a split rim to the tire shop anymore.
Considering I see a tire cage in the background I'm pretty sure they know what a split rim is. I suspect Sierra Army Depot is well acquainted with them.
Wish I had seen this last week as I had 04 guys removing 24 tyres from my kamage 200 Ton multisteer hydraulic low loader with angle grinders, knives and blood sweat and tears....I can,t wait until our next foam filled tyre machine comes in. Thanks a lot from Scotland....great video.
I worked with and operated heavy equipment as well as driving tractor trailer and the foam filled tires are good until they need replacing and this equipment make replacement look easy,very creative! Maranatha, GREETINGS from Tampa Florida
an excavator with a thumb, some good luck and a smooth operator allows you to release the retaining ring on the rim for a quick change then force the rim out the tyre by supporting the tyre and pushing the rim down. The old ring piece holds tight while doing it though and I'm not talking about the one on the tyre. So would recommend this machine.
Bruce Sanborn..you old bastard we use to work together back in the day, this is Tony , god we had some great times not only at work but after work drinking at Stand-up Franks...l remember how you use to hit on Elma, she'd would grap you by the back of the head and force you to eat her out, you'd puke your guts out but you'd took it like a Man, the guys laughed there ass off, Elma dropped a lot of weight since those days, she down to about 280lbs, well listen it was nice to get caught up, l have to go take good care will talk soon
Isnt that just going to be the same process as for any other regular tire? Come to think of it, its possible, that these tires dont even have a bead since there is no outwards pressure to be contained, that could push the tire off the rim - this tire also didnt have any casing, which is why they could cut right through it face on... - Usually there is a thick steel casing there...
Oh yeah, there's a bead on there all right. But why do it the time consuming, harder work, expensive machinery way? I can do the job quicker with 1 hand. Here's a free one, Stihl chop saw. I use a 14 or 18 in abrasive wheel but others work too. Cut a cross section, bead to bead 2 times, 1 opposite each other. The cutoff wheel is too big to get all the bead cable, so switch to a 1/4 in. die grinder with 3 in. wheel, cut the bead(s). Done. 5 minutes tops. Slices right through rubber, foam, and steel wires unbelievably easy, you don't even have to apply pressure, just fire it up and lay it on the tire, 1 hand just to guide it, gravity does the rest. No big setup hassle on an expensive one-off machine that you won't be able to find parts for in 2 years. No big machine that uses up space and hardly gets used. No big bucks lost. Time, energy, space and money gained. Oh yeah, mask and goggles and gloves. Make sure to do it outside, it gives off a ridiculous amount of smoke.
@@michaelmoore7975 I hear you, this video is from "Sierra Army Depot Media", I imagine that an army depot, that has to replace tires 10x every day, wouldnt mind a bigger, dedicated machine for the job, that makes the job less messy and saver. With a Chop saw there may be a higher risk for the worker and also a risk of damaging the rim...? But I agree that your way is good for smaller quantities and smaller budgets...
@@jeffreylebowski4927 @Jeffrey Lebowski I worked at the Air Force motorpool, and admittedly the AF has fewer ot those type vehicles, so I guess it would come down to frequency of use. And foam filled tires last a _very_ long time, maybe 2 or 3 tire changes in the lifetime of the machine, depending on usage. I've had them come in with nothing but 2 sidewalls and no tread. And I myself would think even in that scenario it wouldn't be worth the hassle...but what do I know? They could be doing that all day. Cutting with a chop saw is really a breeze, just get close to the rim, then cut the bead with a 1/4 in die grinder and 3 in wheel. Rarely touch the wheel. But yeah, you're right, at a certain point that machine makes sense. Definitely less smoky and less messy for sure. Thank for the reply.
@@brookemcquale5096 No that is not what it's for. You replace them when they are worn to a certain measurement using a penny. I really hope you're joking hahaha.
I did this two days ago on my John Deere 310b. Basically I lifted the rear using the outriggers. The backhoe was position 15 degrees toward the foam filled tire. My fork lift was perpendicular to the tire and we chained the fork with the backhoe so it wouldn't give. You do need to use a grinder to get the tip of the fork somewhat sharp (just the first 2 inches). My uncle put the backhoe in gear and used the brake to lock the other side of the tire. Within 5 minutes about 90% of the tire was off. Then we chained the tire against the fork mast and moved it off. We repositioned the fork lift and used the fork to pry the remaining material. And is all she wrote. Pretty much got it done within 10 minutes. Local place wanted $300, lol.
I used to work as a field service tech for ARI, the machine used to do this. I worked mostly on their mobile column lifts. I left for another opportunity. Big mistake! They were a great company. USA company that made lifts inOhio. Worked with Italian companies for engineering at high quality. After working on many different companies lifts... ARI was the best. The wireless craze and patents kind sowed them a bit.. it’s good to see this machine in action. I miss the job and the money it came with. The owner was/is an amazing person who really cared about the employees as well. A powerful but humble man for sure!
This guy is really awesome in the sense he takes into consideration the working hard is absolutely hard on his employees and hard on the operations cost. This Machine is working smart and efficient.
They were getting paid $35/hr to remove foam tires by hand. They don’t have a right to complain about having “sore wrists.” Lol, a 20-year-old could do the same job better, except he’d be getting paid close to minimum wage. I wonder what else these employees do to justify their wages.
@@Occasional-Win, Apparently you have never or know anyone that has had to have wrist surgery due to carperal tunnel. I have two families members that have. It's not just about a sore wrist it's about the damage you are do to the wrist. Listen when you are in your 40's it will start to make sense why working smart is better than working hard.
Mmmmm, kinda. I can do the job quicker easier, and cheaper with 1 hand. Here's a free one, Stihl chop/concrete saw. I use an abrasive wheel but others work too. Cut a cross section, bead to bead 2 times opposite each other. The cutoff wheel is too big to get all the bead cable, so switch to a 1/4 in. die grinder with 3 in. wheel, cut the bead(s). Done. 5 minutes tops. Slices right through rubber, foam, and steel wires unbelievably easy, you don't even have to apply pressure, just fire it up and lay it on the tire, 1 hand just to guide it, gravity does the rest. No big setup hassle on an expensive one-off machine that you won't be able to find parts for in 2 years. No big machine that uses up space and hardly gets used. No big bucks lost. Time, energy, space, and money gained. I'll be done before you get it mounted. Oh yeah, mask and goggles and gloves. Make sure to do it outside, it gives off a ridiculous amount of smoke.
Nahhh... I can do the job quicker easier, and cheaper with 1 hand. Here's a free one, Stihl chop saw. I use an abrasive wheel but others work too. Cut a cross section, bead to bead 2 times opposite each other. The cutoff wheel is too big to get all the bead cable, so switch to a 1/4 in. die grinder with 3 in. wheel, cut the bead(s). Done. 5 minutes tops. Slices right through rubber, foam, and steel wires unbelievably easy, you don't even have to apply pressure, just fire it up and lay it on the tire, 1 hand just to guide it, gravity does the rest. No big setup hassle on an expensive one-off machine that you won't be able to find parts for in 2 years. No big machine that uses up space and hardly gets used. No big bucks lost. Time, energy, space, and money gained. I'll be done before you get it mounted. Oh yeah, mask and goggles and gloves. Make sure to do it outside, it gives off a ridiculous amount of smoke.
Nice video, never knew it took do long to get them changed let alone just taken off. You need to have them make a "wedge" type of cutter/remover head for the foam part.
Why do it the expensive, time consuming, big machine way? I can do the job quicker, easier, and cheaper with 1 hand. Here's a free one, Stihl chop saw. I use a 14 or 18 in abrasive wheel but others work too. Cut a cross section, bead to bead 2 times, 1 opposite each other. The cutoff wheel is too big to get all the bead cable, so switch to a 1/4 in. die grinder with 3 in. wheel, cut the bead(s). Done. 5 minutes tops. Slices right through rubber, foam, and steel wires unbelievably easy, you don't even have to apply pressure, just fire it up and lay it on the tire, 1 hand just to guide it, gravity does the rest. No big setup hassle on an expensive one-off machine that you won't be able to find parts for in 2 years. No big machine that uses up space and hardly gets used. No big bucks lost. Time, energy, space, and money gained. I'll be done before they could mount it. Oh yeah, mask and goggles and gloves. Make sure to do it outside, it gives off a ridiculous amount of smoke.
I been tire repair for 12 year, OTR repair TECH certified. and tire retreading for GCR firestone/bridgestone BANDAG rubber an all machines in the retread shop. Dirty job but i love it
@todd lecher Much respect, David the heavy repair formerly from Houston Tires here in Fayetteville clued me in on what a demanding job it really is. Thing is, this cat made it LOOK easy.....but I know better
The method we used at the scarp yard was,cut the tire at the bead on both sides then cut from one side of the bead to the other straight across the tire then we used the Liebherr with the scarp handler “the claw” to rip everything off the wheel took about 10 to 15 minutes to do
This is one of those things that , i should be asleep but decided to open RU-vid. 0 clue whats going on wont remeber this in the morning watched the whole thing lol
I can do the job quicker with 1 hand. Here's a free one, Stihl chop saw. I use a 14 or 18 in abrasive wheel but others work too. Cut a cross section, bead to bead 2 times, 1 opposite each other. The cutoff wheel is too big to get all the bead cable, so switch to a 1/4 in. die grinder with 3 in. wheel, cut the bead(s). Done. 5 minutes tops. Slices right through rubber, foam, and steel wires unbelievably easy, you don't even have to apply pressure, just fire it up and lay it on the tire, 1 hand just to guide it, gravity does the rest. No big setup hassle on an expensive one-off machine that you won't be able to find parts for in 2 years. No big machine that uses up space and hardly gets used. No big bucks lost. Time, energy, space, and money gained. Oh yeah, mask and goggles and gloves. Make sure to do it outside, it gives off a ridiculous amount of smoke.
When I was 18(1992) I was forced to break semi tires off the rim by hand.. after a few, they let me use the tire machine similar to what you have there. Hydraulics rule.
This makes me want used loader tires even more! Could use the foam for great projects! Edit: finally got a pretty handful of these foam filled tires and i gotta say they are QUITE MESSY. i have removed the foam part using only two crowbars, a machete and a whole lotta elbow grease! The foam is like a mousse rubber but very easy to cut and carve out really good shapes!
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Goes in liquid threw the valve stem. Then solidifies into the rubberized structural foam. There will actually be a bolt or screw that plugs the hole that is drilled in the tread ply of the tire to act as a vent so the foam can properly cure and fill the casing. One that size weighs about 600lbs once cured
@@jays.7923 Agreed definitely not 'bead locks' but clearly a split rim with a split ring retainer. Where the split lock ring can be removed then one bead slid off the rest of the rim. Better shown here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8UFvWt8OqTc.html . You can see the difference from the machine side to the no machine side on this vid 3:53 at the nine o'clock position.
Saves you time, you're still going to charge the same rates for man hours as if you were doing it by hand..... but yeah,not like they need to know that...
They dont come that way,theyre mounted on the rim then they pump urethane mixture through the balve stem,it hardens differently depending on the mix and type of rigidity needed for each application
For what those tires cost I would like to think there was a lot of life left in that rubber and foam.. I mean you couldn’t see the foam yet from outside lol
I’m a mechanic I got to say that was pretty bad ass👍😎I was thinking it might be easier just to buy the rim and tire all together but I’m sure that’s probably A lot more🤔
Ребята, это всего лишь на всего заполнение шин. Ставьте палец в верх, и я сниму вам видос об этой Штуке. Это шина заполненная полиуретаном. Полик помогает эксплуатировать шину не боясь проколов и порезов. Но как видите, от стирания он шину не убережет. Стерся протектор и все. А срезают её для того чтоб на старый диск одеть новую шину и далее с ново заполнить её полиуретаном.
Yep his name is Mike. I can do the job quicker easier, and cheaper with 1 hand. Here's a free one, Stihl chop/concrete saw. I use an abrasive wheel but others work too. Cut a cross section, bead to bead 2 times, 1 opposite each other. The cutoff wheel is too big to get all the bead cable, so switch to a 1/4 in. die grinder with 3 in. wheel, cut the bead(s). Done. 5 minutes tops. Slices right through rubber, foam, and steel wires unbelievably easy, you don't even have to apply pressure, just fire it up and lay it on the tire, 1 hand just to guide it, gravity does the rest. No big setup hassle on an expensive one-off machine that you won't be able to find parts for in 2 years. No big machine that uses up space and hardly gets used. No big bucks lost. Time, energy, space, and money gained. I'll be done before they get it mounted. Oh yeah, mask and goggles and gloves. Make sure to do it outside, it gives off a ridiculous amount of smoke.
I haven't found any employer around Cheektowaga that really cares about their employees, they seems to hire people to use their youth for little pay, they believe they can always find someone else to do the job. Start your own business.
I bet it’s better then working for Dunntire! 8 Year’s doing tires worst place to ever work!! Don’t know how I’ve made it 13 months.. that’s a company that will hire experience and promise a full raise after 90 days and just make bank off your experience and can you when they’re done with you. The whole company is a shit show
you could also sell those cut tires for feeders to people with live stock and if you could make some kind of curved tool to get the foam portion off in one piece you might be able to sell those to race races as bumpers or those things they put on sides of boats or anything else some people would buy those cut tires for flower pots
It looks like the machine wouldn't support the axis movement. The machine can't make any arc movements.
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justin i remember cutting triangles out of car tires and folding the remaining parts up and we used them as planters lost hillbilly arts i guess, hell my driveway had beer can pull tab necklaces going up either side and hanging baskets made from them too!!!!oh the good old days and btw tractor tires buried half in ground one after the other was my neighbors driveway border!! who the fuck needs belgian block!!!!
6.7 now, a lot of useless angry millinial stuck taking the corona bus and epidemic train most likely. Because even a Prius isn't a right but a privlege. 😆
Not all of them are foam filled, it's an expensive option, however is the cheap option (compared to fixing/replacing tires) for places like junkyards that have frequent tire punctures.
Jay Dunbar $150 a tire for repair on the exact same tire, 3 times a week working at a landfill. That is if you do not get a side wall puncture as well which would require a sectioning but at $17,000 to foam fill all four tires it is a little to rich. It was decided to go with a cheap no name brand tire from china with the deepest tread as possible and has made a difference. Take out a side wall.......scrap the tire and go new again to gain the depth advantage for nail punctures and traction. A metal scrap yard.....yeah, that would be a must I would think.
They could manage it a whole lot easier.. Why do it the time consuming, harder work, expensive machinery way? I can do the job quicker easier, and cheaper with 1 hand. Here's a free one, Stihl chop saw. I use an abrasive wheel but others work too. Cut a cross section, bead to bead 2 times opposite each other. The cutoff wheel is too big to get all the bead cable, so switch to a 1/4 in. die grinder with 3 in. wheel, cut the bead(s). Done. 5 minutes tops. Slices right through rubber, foam, and steel wires unbelievably easy, you don't even have to apply pressure, just fire it up and lay it on the tire, 1 hand just to guide it, gravity does the rest. No big setup hassle on an expensive one-off machine that you won't be able to find parts for in 2 years. No big machine that uses up space and hardly gets used. No big bucks lost. Time, energy, space, and money gained. I'll be done before they can get it mounted. Oh yeah, mask and goggles and gloves. Make sure to do it outside, it gives off a ridiculous amount of smoke.
I've done that more times than I want to think about. It's not too bad when you can just cut the tire all the way across and then on the other side do that again and both halves just fall off and leave you with a nice clean rim.
The rubber from the tire is recyclable but the foam isn't as far as i'm aware. There are many different brands and types of that foam that cover different densities and working conditions. You can't buy the foam for the filling unless you are a tire installer/reseller.
Very impressive. Seems like there may be room for a third type of bit that actually peels the rubber skin off at the end. Maybe more of an angled shoehorn type set up, but trust me - I know,...lol, armchair quarterbacks are a dime a dozen. Thanks for posting.
not on all heavy equpiment. this is army equipment. most heavy equpiment just uses air and if they want puntcure resistance they just use chain mail or solid tires. but if you put a tire on and fill it with foam this is the only way to get it off i guess
@C Movies maybe. but i just looked up a rim (just the wheel with no tire) for a 988 which was the smallest loader we used. a used one is 2400 dollars on ebay. i looked up foam filled tires and they are about 400. so if you sold foam filled tires for 400 dollars would you include a 2400 dollar rim? i wouldnt. large places that do heavy equipment work have a shop full of guys that they have to pay wheather they do anything or not. and there is always downtime here and there. making them change a tire out is a small job in comparison. i suppose they could just charge a core charge for the rim and charge say 2800 for the tire and then give you back 2400 when you gave them the old rim but people would try to pawn old broken rims off on you and then you try to resell it to the next customer and make them mad or worse get somebody killed. tires need changing. thats all there is to it. how about a regular air filled tire? you dont throw the rims away on your car when you get new tires do you? if they are not plain steel rims they probalby cost more than your tires too
They said it saved them 12 hours that it would normally take two guys to do it in...that's crazy!! I have been fixing tires "truck, tractor, car, mower, backhoe and anything with tires" for over 30 years and i can do one of these in 3 hours by myself, taking foam one off rim and putting new tire/tube mount and back on! The only thing doing it the way in the video does, saves them from doing any work...it is not faster for sure! Taking a foam filled tire off of any size rim is so fricken easy i shouldn't even have to tell you how to do it...use your head guys!
First blade - remove and store. Second "T" blade - make wider with blades on both sides 1/2 (plus an inch) bead rim width in length. Fabricate a removable large ball bearing on the "T" blade shaft to ride1" or so away from the steel bead rim. Start by slicing the tire and foam as the second step in video. Then slice the tire rim and foam on the other side (third step on video). Then put on the bearing and use the side motion (left to right) while rotating to pressure the cut tire with it's foam off the rim to the right. Continue to remove the cut side rims and central foam residue as you did before. - TSgt Joe S - USAF Ret. 40 years TIS When the going gets tough, the tough call for Close Air Support. Air Force Ammo.
