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Focal Utopia 2022 Review, Measurements 

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Six years ago, Focal redefined the high end of the dynamic headphone world with the Focal Utopia. Today, Focal is finally releasing its successor, the Focal Utopia 2022. In this video, we literally take a look inside the new Focal Utopia 2022, subject it to electroshock treatment, provide subjective impressions and comparisons, and show you measurements (and measurement comparisons) made on the Brüel & Kjær 5128.

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@GrumpiestKitten
@GrumpiestKitten Год назад
5:35 please note that formerless coils for headphones have been state of the art for decades because that was the standard for microphone capsules which were the basis of most headphone capsules/miniature loudspeakers. The unique characteristic about the Focal's coil is the single layer of windings. Formerless coils usually have multiple layers of windings to increase packing density and improve structural integrity. The only benefit of being single layer is less weight and lower inductance which results in more bandwidth. Imo reliabilty is more important than 80 kHz but ymmv.
@thegloriouspotato6223
@thegloriouspotato6223 Год назад
Yeah. Focal driver reliability is still scuffed.
@sjqideez6626
@sjqideez6626 Год назад
Thanks for this Jude, looking forward to hearing it soon
@GermanoHeitor
@GermanoHeitor Год назад
Jude, pure class as always. Thank you for the video!
@themosyannakou6893
@themosyannakou6893 Год назад
Very very excited to hear this one. Really nice review
@sleepyrhythms6668
@sleepyrhythms6668 Год назад
I was ecstatic to meet you in person. Thanks for being such a cool guy! Until next year. 😊
@FSFLIGHTproductions
@FSFLIGHTproductions Год назад
Fantastic review and exactly what I was looking for. A great mix of data and observed listening.
@phonitor2114
@phonitor2114 Год назад
Outstanding review. Great job. Really enjoyed listening to this.
@kristoffer8740
@kristoffer8740 Год назад
The improvements of the Focal Utopia 2022 gets completely canceled out by the price increase though (1K more). If the stayed at the original price or "only" costed 500 USD more than the original the improvements would be worth it.
@FabioKasper
@FabioKasper Год назад
At least it was not a shrinkflation kind of change. 😄
@falcodarkzz
@falcodarkzz Год назад
Look up something called inflation. $4000 in 2016 is around $4500 in 2022. So it's a 10% price increase, for a better package...
@gatobakuniano
@gatobakuniano Год назад
Lol, I don't think that those 500$ are going to be a dealbreaker for a real buyer. We all see these and dream about purchasing them. But that's just dreams. Those who can really afford to spend 4000$ on a pair of headphones, they have very expensive amps, dacs, turntables, collections. They are people that have devoted a lot of money into this hobby, so... No... 500$ are not going to make any difference in the real world of these headphones
@vancybergoth
@vancybergoth Год назад
Finally, the wait is over.
@armandsant1143
@armandsant1143 Год назад
the most beautiful review i ever saw
@MrAyrit
@MrAyrit Год назад
Nice. Now to grab a great deal on the OG!
@Dev-hv4pt
@Dev-hv4pt Год назад
More warmth, more air, & a wider soundstage - Almost all my gripes were addressed. Can't wait to hear these! One thing I am curious though is if they still have that infamous metallic character to the treble. Even if it is smoother the timbre was a pain point for me. Like you said though nothing is perfect, but if they fixed that it'll be damn close.
@evan4280
@evan4280 Год назад
Yeah, I could forgive air just a bit, and the soundstage...the added warmth would be really welcome though.
@sjqideez6626
@sjqideez6626 Год назад
What amp did you use with it? A THX one or the A90?
@GOJIN1980
@GOJIN1980 Год назад
Nice railcar chore jacket!
@20puskinas1992
@20puskinas1992 Год назад
Jude, did they fix this clipping issue? Does it still have this ''feature" where headphones clip at lower wolume than competitors? Its strange that there is 0 presence from Focal themselfs on head fi, but there are dozens of reviews around the net. Did they even care about customers?
@DuranInternational
@DuranInternational Год назад
Now let’s get a new focal Stellia in navy blue color
@evan4280
@evan4280 Год назад
I have OG Utopias and love them DEARLY...these i want though. will be sad to have to wait however long until i can get a significant discount on the used market…
@aceofspades6667
@aceofspades6667 Год назад
this needs to be the Utopia mk2 or Utopia rev 2... I'm excited to see the OG Utopia move down into mid fi prices that I can afford.
@Guerilla_law3516
@Guerilla_law3516 Год назад
☝🏾all im thinking is, hmm….Hopefully this drops used utopia prices. Lol.
@krisrudecki9477
@krisrudecki9477 Год назад
This is 1k more, used Utopia are around 2,5k and they will stay there I think 😑
@aceofspades6667
@aceofspades6667 Год назад
@@krisrudecki9477 Utopia prices will be tanking.. they are already at $2k with aftermarket cables. There will be more hitting the market for 1.5k to 1850 over the next month. Just beware of scammers they have infested the classified at headfi and usaudio mart.
@SPLWF
@SPLWF Год назад
What about Focal's Clear MG, which is Magnesium, better or worse than Beryllium?
@bpenda94
@bpenda94 Год назад
The atrium driver also moves pretty easily if you blow on it
@phillipnunya6793
@phillipnunya6793 Год назад
Pretty sure that's the case for most good drivers. Maybe all.
@sudd3660
@sudd3660 Год назад
what i want from a headphone is bass, because it is the big thing i like about my speakers system. i use tone generator for assessing that goal, but you could use a song like the "curtain shaker" i find on youtube. think its somewhere below 20hz and it shows me the capability of sub bass i could expect. anyone got the chance to listen for sub bass in the utopia?
@Edgeangle
@Edgeangle Год назад
How does the new Utopia compare to an EQd old Utopia? It responds very well to EQ so I'm curious what the changes are above tonality.
@SpykerSpeed
@SpykerSpeed Год назад
Honestly this is the main reason I'm hesitant to upgrade. EQ works so well on the original Utopia that it's difficult to justify getting a new headphone.
@christianblais3350
@christianblais3350 Год назад
Any change in the soundstage?
@Mr1stcat
@Mr1stcat Год назад
I just hope they addressed the QC problems that the Elex had 🙄 i wanted to buy the elex but i saw too many people complaining of driver clipping and outright driver failures
@KirkLazurus
@KirkLazurus Год назад
The Elex and early Elears had QC issues. The Clear and up had next to no QC issues. I think the drop collab had something to do with the qc issues. I still think a product in this price range should come with 5yr warranty and the current warranty offered by focal is not good enough.
@Smitty_Werbenjagermanjenson
FWIW, I have a first-run Elex and it works perfectly fine
@Mr1stcat
@Mr1stcat Год назад
@@KirkLazurus yea it's a real shame i really liked the aesthetics of the elex i think it's one of the best looking focals to date and the utopia 2022 really reminds me of it looks wise, i just think they completely abandoned it on the quality and customer service side which on even a 700$ headphone is unacceptable let alone a 4K$ dollar one but im almost certain the new utopia won't have those issues it's just the price regular everyday audiophiles won't be able to swallow😰
@frosty6845
@frosty6845 Год назад
@@KirkLazurus the Clear also had driver clipping issues
@arthurhaywood2184
@arthurhaywood2184 Год назад
My Elex are 4 years old with absolutely zero issues. They’re the reason why I never seriously considered getting an Utopia because from a timbre perspective, they’re very similar. It’s a “Prince & the Pauper” thing. I couldn’t justify the 6x price of the Utopia. Yes, it was more refined but I was getting pretty damn close with the Elex.
@papagen00
@papagen00 Год назад
My only issue with the original Utopia was its narrow soundstage vis-a-vis AKG and Sennheiser. All this techno-babble is interesting but doesn't mean much until an actual audition. Unlike other audiophiles, I judge headphones based on live concert sounds from 30 years of attending the symphony and opera. The same orchestra will sound different in different concert halls just like different sound signatures in headphones.
@CrazyAboutVinylRecords
@CrazyAboutVinylRecords Год назад
I have listened to two different Focal headphones and they both sounded dark -- veiled even. That was a deal breaker for me.
@cassiecat7038
@cassiecat7038 Год назад
The OG is available now at a reduced price new; do you think these improvements are significant enough that it’s a mistake to take the opportunity to get the og’s now?
@robertobuatti7226
@robertobuatti7226 10 месяцев назад
I would love a pair of these primarily for their sound and detail retrieval, I purchased the Focal Clear and Clear MG, Elegia and Celestee and read about and saw photos on Reddit and other such forums that Focal headbands easily snaps and cracks in half by gently placing on and off your head, it's a design flaw from Focal's part as the headband is mixed with metal and a thin layer of plastic, this has me really worried as these headphones are quite expensive and I'm not rich, I'm quite new to the audiophile world and have done a lot of research into getting resolving headphones that I can afford but am hearing driver clipping when listening to music even at low volumes, I just want people to be aware of these issues that Focal headphones have so people save their money.
@anjolielanel990
@anjolielanel990 Год назад
The Utopia 2022 looks to be a new contender and I love the new looks too! But, $5K! Whew that’s a lot of top ramen
@matthewweflen
@matthewweflen Год назад
At this price I think I'll stick with my budget MDR-Z1R.
@MyouKyuubi
@MyouKyuubi Год назад
Yeah, that seems like common sense to me.
@KirkLazurus
@KirkLazurus Год назад
So when is the new Stellia coming?
@DuranInternational
@DuranInternational Год назад
Yeah want a new Stellia in navy blue color
@SiliDuffa
@SiliDuffa Год назад
Finally, another amazing headphone normal people can't afford. Great job audiophile world! 😃👍
@Raziel_SSJ
@Raziel_SSJ Год назад
Sure, it's expensive, but we're not talking about $25,000 headphones or even $200,000 speakers. So you certainly can afford it, like any true enthusiast who spends their time and money on fewer but very expensive things (like almost everything was few years back) rather than, nowadays, wanting everything you can have/buy on earth (for as little money as possible and often ending with crappy things). But of course, you'll have to be patient and make concessions on the new top tier smartphone every year or two, the far too big car, the shiny new kitchen, the swimming pool, the trips around the world, etc... The best example are gears for high-level sportsmen/athletes whom often earn very little but are truly dedicated to their passion and spend everything in it rather anything else. You have the choice man. Passionate? Or not? 😊
@Lauren080508
@Lauren080508 Год назад
For those commenting about how easy focal headphones bass clips is mostly true, except for the old Utopia, when measured it showed to be very well controlled even at 104 dB, but oh boy $5000!? and still you need EQ to get a good bass? I'll pass
@harackmw
@harackmw Год назад
yeah, having to EQ at half the price is insane, nevermind $5000...
@SpykerSpeed
@SpykerSpeed Год назад
I have the original Utopia and the bass is VERY responsive to EQ. It's more than enough for me, and I'm kind of a bass head. The HD800S, however, can't achieve decent bass even with EQ.
@evan4280
@evan4280 Год назад
@@SpykerSpeed I have the same pair and agree. Also, The trend of cheap low distortion amps hasn't done favors to the utes. They're responsive to equipment and a lot of the common gripes imo come down to poor pairings w electronics
@WorldView22
@WorldView22 Год назад
Mechanical clipping?
@Richbroth
@Richbroth Год назад
Why did the price increase so much for such little improvement.
@Sandman121
@Sandman121 Год назад
Now all they need to do is redesign the headband
@mavericksyao708
@mavericksyao708 Год назад
This new version costs double the price of a pair of original version in good condition.
@hl321662
@hl321662 Год назад
While Focal drivers are indeed innovative, their headband breaks easily, the earpads are very expensive and little to no consideration is given to repairability when designing the headphones. Their out-of-warranty repair also costs more than a new pair. I admire their driver design but wouldn't spend money on their product again after the headband of my Elex snapped and the only solution with reasonable cost is replacing it with HiFiMan headband.
@20puskinas1992
@20puskinas1992 Год назад
Agree. Focal focuses on design and sound and not on durability and longevity.
@mikafoxx2717
@mikafoxx2717 Год назад
You know it's bad when you use Hifiman parts for their superior reliability.
@realaudioreviews
@realaudioreviews Год назад
All that is cool, but how does it sound lol
@SceneYoTu
@SceneYoTu Год назад
🙇‍♂️😊
@krisrudecki9477
@krisrudecki9477 Год назад
People who describe og Utopia as bright and lean ... and then show the picture of running straight out of Dave 🤔😐😂 plug it into any good tube amp and it will be lush and full bodied, in fact for me its often too dark and I need to bump the output impedance for some tracks 🤫
@thierryfaquet7405
@thierryfaquet7405 Год назад
A high end headphone that need very specific amplification is flawed, period. Your amp shouldn’t have to fix your pair of can.
@boboiboy9350
@boboiboy9350 Год назад
IMO bump the OI was not really necessary. If you want it darker, try driving them out of transformer coupled tube amps. their OI is not that high. Neither do Utopia’s
@Peace_Guard
@Peace_Guard 10 месяцев назад
Which tube that you mean makes Utopia sound even dark?
@iridescentgherkin
@iridescentgherkin Год назад
2:49 - Am I famous now? 😅
@iamthe1234567890
@iamthe1234567890 Год назад
Wow, Jude is Asian. I'd always imagined you to look like Jude Law in AI 😂
@antunkatona5674
@antunkatona5674 Год назад
It’s hardly a wonder if it has to cost that much to be one. I am not sure what to think of Focal. On one hand, they have some rather smart people there and I primarily mean the sales department and marketing folk. On the other hand, if you are a customer, you are the one paying for trips, accommodation, food and drinks for all the influencers they bring to their facility. Even folks from MI channel aren’t immune to it as they’re slowly learning the benefits of social media. One can hardly open a milk bottle without the name ‘Focal‘ jumping out. Also, I don’t appreciate the word ‘realism’ being used so prominently in this review. I don’t think it is realistic-sounding as the upper harmonics of a violin or sympathetic string resonance of a piano sounds slightly artificial in nature. It isn’t a big issue but it’s there nonetheless and for a hefty chunk of cash you are expected to pay for it, you should really expect spectacular performance with acoustic instruments like these. I’m not here to tell you whether you should buy it or not since everyone can do what they please. Think about it this way - for this kind of money you can buy an actual acoustic piano and learn how to play it, if you’re into that kind of a thing. You can also get a subscription for the philharmonic orchestra or theatre in your area and that can be a mind-expanding and humbling experience. This is coming from someone who spent a LOT (too much in fact) only to learn you don’t need to spend that much because, in case you DO spend too much, at some point it stops being fun. Cheerio!
@user-fy8lq1nv4o
@user-fy8lq1nv4o Год назад
Should I go x9000 + t8000 or utopia + p750u
@dleblanc343
@dleblanc343 Год назад
X9000 combo is more open and detailed, more transparent, but also can be fatiguing. Utopia + Luxman is a combo I’ve actually owned and is wonderful! Dynamic & engaging, natural sounding with more than enough detail even if somewhat short of X9000 potential. I recommend saving the $ and getting Utopia setup
@sergeysmelnik
@sergeysmelnik Год назад
Is it really that hard to make a headphone with a flat frequency response because that response looks like absolute shit. Whats up with the massive boost from 2 to 7k? And why measure past 20khz?
@x32i77
@x32i77 Год назад
Focal headphones do clip when listening a bit louder . Try out and see/hear for yourself : listen to the song Traust from the band Heilung
@justin.ivancic
@justin.ivancic Год назад
Just listened to the song with my 2020 Utopia. Zero clipping on my end. The song is pretty good too
@brothatwasepic
@brothatwasepic Год назад
Anyone who wants to get rid of their utopia I will gladly drive to your place with a shiny 100 dollar bill that you can put towards your Utopia 2022
@BrJD-ii4iv
@BrJD-ii4iv Год назад
I’m sure it’s another clipping no bass and no soundstage headphone. 😊
@0Wayland
@0Wayland Год назад
1000 for the sound, 4000 for the name.
@ololoshevkin
@ololoshevkin Год назад
First Utopia was awful headphones for its price, worse than HD800s and ADX5000
@andrewlissimore9912
@andrewlissimore9912 Год назад
First!
@Borednlonely
@Borednlonely Год назад
Only focal could out do themselves with an ugly design. Bravo
@focusmusic2016
@focusmusic2016 Год назад
I don’t like it just another reskin
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