That’s the coolest trailer option I’ve ever seen. I’ve been pulling gooseneck horse trailers all my life and never really been fond of bumper hitch camper trailers but this cures the towing and backing issues with bumper pull trailers. Brilliant
That's nice I built one 12 years ago for a 32 foot tag along camper and sold the camper a few years later with it attached to it I mounted a generator on the noise over the back of the truck and a plat forum for storage
Gooseneck, when possible, is THE very best way to pull hands down. We've been hauling horses, cattle and hay, nothing better. Once someone used a gooseneck, there's no going back.
Nope I fucking hate goosenecks much rather a 5th wheel hitch... goosenecks are kinda pain to hook up a 5th wheel will guide itself into place and automatically lock so you dont have to be perfectly centered like a gooseneck and a 5th wheel is nice smooth and quiet vs goosenecks that like to bang around.
For those asking why. I can only answer for my personal reasons. 1. I have the perfect TT for me. Its paid for and i never wanted a 5th wheel. 2. I like that I would still have the low profile of the TT, but would have the better handling characteristics of a goosneck. 3. I dont know why people keep saying this causing more torque on the trailer frame. Its inducing less than a weight distrubution hitch. The point where it connects is the exact same as being hooked to a receiver. The ball in the bed allows the tongue to move in infinite and continous positions. It cannot bind like a WDH. Your needs will vary of course. But its a great design and would work exactly as intended. Why dont i have one? Because the place i park my trailer wont accommodate the extra length.
Very nice idea. Nice concept and thoughtfulness of what people need. Really like the under side lights, the storage tray and storage shelf. This may be an issue for half ton trucks as they often need weight distribution due to the limited capacity. Just making a pull behind a gooseneck does not solve the limitations of the truck. Especially on short bed versions where the ball is behind the rear axel. But again, overall, a great concept!
Ingenious, I want to build a gooseneck like this to attach to my fifth wheel pin box and the chassis side rails to minimize the stress on the front frame and aluminum RV structure, that way the weight and twisting stresses will be carried by the more rigid gooseneck hitch and main frame rails on the RV and not the front structure of the RV
Neither does a weight distribution attachment but many manufacturers will void the warranty for using them because they can stress the trailer frame and I've seen the failures. This looks to be a way better option.@@PTRRanger951
What do you mean, stress cracks from using this conversion? I don't think the conversion would put any more weight on the original hitch from what it already was.. Yes the moment arm of the whole thing is longer. A longer arm does give more leverage, but that isn't going to effect/increase the amount of weight on the original part of the hitch on the camper as far as the camper is concerned, the ball is still in the same place, think about it. But I agree campers are built notoriously crappy. I've got cracks on my old fifth wheel camper, the actual hitch framework, I need to address right now.
@@turdferguson12 Yes but if the front of the camper is not loaded any heavier then the hitch should not be any different and they did reinforce that with the bars under V anyway if that has any effect on the frame where the A frame is welded to the box frame it was not a good design in the first place that is just my thoughts
Great idea. A lot of people like the lower profile, ease of access and other benefits of a travel trailer but would like tge towing ease and safety of a 5th wheel.
I like the idea of this after having a bumper pull RV for about a year now, but the 880lb of this adapter make it a significant beast to mount. $6,000 isn’t crazy money for what you’re getting when you see equalizer hitches going for upwards of $3,000 for some brands.
If your goose neck ball was in line vertical with existing ball hitch. Then your trailer frame loading would be the same as the orginal trailer manufacturer.
i was sitting here thinking about this, moving the hitch out 4 to 5 feet would be like holding weight against your chest than extending your arm out straight that puts more stress on your shoulder than your legs im thinking it is putting a lot more stress on the hitch i might be over thinking this
Better vs a weight distribution hitch as it directly puts the weight forward on the truck. Would like to see it in action on windy day with the camper it is attached to.
I do not see that as an advantage personally. The trailer frame is not designed for it, nor would weight distribution be the same. Also a true 5th wheel has far more room inside, and when you have a 30ft 5th wheel, it tows about 5ft shorter than a 30ft pull trailer. My 34ft 5th wheel tows and backs up like a 25ft pull trailer. So you use up the truck bed to pull a trailer designed to free up the truck bed when you tow.
The advantage would be a trailer that actually pulls nice without a bunch of drama and fish tailing. Also, no in-cab reverberation from tongue weight hanging off the back of the truck.
Because I can't find a fifth wheel toy hauler smaller than 40+ feet. I don't want or can afford one of those monsters. The small toy haulers are all bumper pull.
@@oneninerniner3427genesis supreme makes a ton of 32' overall (and smaller) fivers. My 27.5' box is 33' overall. Fifth wheels are a lot more efficient use of space.
You should find a way to hinge it up at the top with some pins so top can fold down so it's not sticking out so far when your unhooked. My bumper pull camper measures 41ft long and its tough to find camping sites for it to fit, and with your hitch it'd be even longer, I think it'd be cool to fold down somehow after you unhook. Just a thought but man that is exactly what my camper needs bc it tows like crap! Love your hitch tho I'm gonna have to try one for sure!
This will also reduce your trailers load capacity as half the weight of the unit is now on your trailer and the other is on your truck. Not to mention the amount of torque that its going to put on the frame and tongue of the TT that it wasn't designed for.
Could this be used on a dump trailer or equipment trailer? I would feel safer with a 14,000 pound capacity trailer using a gooseneck hitch rather than bumper pull any day.
Perfect I can add at least 8' to my 32 foot bumper pull. Would place some major limits on where I could camp with a 40+ foot rig. And adds one real big place to hit my head every time I left the camper or truck
Great concept. But there are MANY documented cases of BP frames snapping due to the loads imparted by a simple load-leveling hitch. This is basically the same thing on steroids as far as where/how it attaches to the trailer frame. Im curious to see the first-hand data after a year or 2 of use
Actually its not the same at all. A leveling hitch doesn’t allow the trailer hitch to pivot vertically when hitting dips etc. That is where all the stress comes from. A 5th wheel hitch keeps the truck and trailer completely independent except for the tongue weight.
@akshonclip8149 actually it's exactly the same. The gooseneck adapter transfers the tongue weight up over the axles, but there is an extreme amount of torque on the frame tubes where the adapter attaches (just like with a load leveling hitch). IF the ONLY point of contact between the trailer and adapter was at the ball, this wouldn't be the case. The adapter uses the trailer frame tube for leverage, just like a load leveling hitch.
@@ryanj2071 But you are not locking the trailer frame and truck frame together. That is the problem with load levelers. At some point the trailer frame is forced to take the rear weight of the truck. That doesn’t happen with a 5th wheel. There isn’t any more torque applied to that setup then there would be with it just sitting on a hitch ball without load levelers.
This system looks like it spreads the attachment forces out very well and it also still allows for full articulation which would eliminate the stresses of a WD attachment.
I would do this not for extra towing capacity cause your axles and suspension along with the frame still have the original ratings but for theft. You never hear of a goose neck trailer getting stolen. But tons of bumper pulls get jacked all the time. Especially where I live. It’s so easy to back up lock the coupler and go. With a goose neck not nearly so easy.
Other than the better towing and sway prevention, I would like this setup, so that there wouldn't be the big 5th wheel bedroom over the hitch. The extra height of the 5th wheel designs, are mileage killers, and the layouts aren't that good for tall people. The gooseneck would also give more stability for smaller trucks, because of the weight placement.
Honestly this is really cool but the question is do the pros outweigh the cons? I mean you’re adding a lot of weight and considerably more stress to the frame of your trailer. Is the improvement in stability and turning radius really that much of an advantage?
As someone that moves camper trailers professionally, why on earth would this even exist? You're trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist... It's a hack method instead of using the proper truck for your needs.
It looks really nice. I have a 254 pickup truck. Super duty 30 foot camper was slide out. How much difference would it make it way to truck with Pole and handle? How much does it cost working? You buy one? Thank you very much hope you have a nice day
all other things being equal a gooseneck trailer will always be more stable then bumper pull to tow because you aren't taking weight off your steering axle. this also has the advantage of being able to make tighter turns before jackknifing.
All that’s true… being a 250 n 30 footer… difference will probably be pretty substantial… especially if you have short wheelbase. $6k … it’s on you to get from Green Bay to your place. Crunch your own numbers.
$5,995 plus tax and shipping is customers responsibility. Also leaves out a very important bit on how much it weighs. My thoughts are that this would be perfect for half ton trucks as half ton towable 5th wheel campers are extremely scarce but depending on how heavy the adapter hitch is it might not be worth it if it soaks up to much of the trucks payload rating. With shipping and taxes you’re probably going to be pushing $7k for this not including if you need to set the truck up. On a 3/4 or 1 ton it’d be better to just get a 5th wheel.
Look good but I have seen those Lippert tongues bend and or break off the frame because of the very thin-walled tubing Lippert uses. I would not use your adaptor on ANY "lite weight" trailer. Only use on good strong frames.
My 33' toy hauler bumper tow, 3_7k axles, and am everybit of them 21K lb trailer without the toys. 12" I-Beam Rails. If one wants gooseneck Why Wouldnt i want to attach the gooseck section Directly to the 12" I Beams, could Still do without Welding with proper double shear plates thus Removing the Super Flexy bumper tow design.
Fifth wheels are more comfortable to pull. I don't see no increase in the TT tongue weight distribution. Setting on the ball, and the rear brackets are exactly the place that weight distribution bars attach to the frame. The only drawback I see, is the fifth wheel attachment sticking out in front of the TT. Kind of wasted space?
Your design effectively lengthens the moment-arm of the hitch by roughly six feet. The clamp-on structure support is not adequately placed to compensate for the significant additional torque force being applied to the frame of the trailer and the point where the A-frame is welded to the frame rails. Modern camper trailer frames are barely able to carry the forces as designed. This looks sketchy to me. Have any of the RV manufacturers given their endorsement for this modification?
Gotta say thats pretty cool. With the ball on the device how will it affect turning? Will it only move on the gooseneck ball or will the trailer ball move also in a tight turn?
Question , why do you make that pop sound with your mouth before you start talking. It's a lot annoying. But I do like the concept of the goose neck. Nice job.
What’s The Point ? The trailer you own just became more expensive , longer , has less of a load capacity and makes wider turns ! Questionable trailer frame longevity and you didn’t gain any interior real estate ! Just Because You Can Do Something . . . . Doesn’t Mean You Should !!!