Gooseneck conversion on our Alliance Valor...should we have done this sooner!? 

We love our Gen-Y Gooseneck hitch. It is a rough ride for the first 600 miles or so. We have 7500 miles on the hitch and wouldn't trade it for anything. We got a tire step... it makes it a lot easier to connect the safety chains. The first step we ordered was 19" wide, it did not work well with our F450 19.5 rims. We got a 22 inch wide step and love it.

I wish I would have seen this video about two years ago! We purchased a TT instead of a 5th wheel for three reasons, one of which was not wanting to “lose the use of our truck bed”. This seems to address that. Probably still would get the TT though… maybe. LOL Blessings to you all. We have Shelties, so can relate on the puppies being such a big part of your life.

Good video, thanks. Something to think about: I went from an Andersen hitch on our previous 5th wheel trailer (Montana) to the Gen-Y on our new Brinkley. I really like the Gen-y for the extra bed space but dislike how close the tailgate gets to the trailer. Doing a little research and I saw that Gen-Y sells the "Goosepuck" that pushes the ball 5" back toward the tailgate of the truck. I think that extra distance will be huge when hitching up. I ordered one last night and can't wait to try it.

PROBLEMS! READ THE FULL COMMENT! I tow a gooseneck horse trailer with my Ford F350 shortbed with the B&W turnover ball installed. I had this exact GEN-Y gooseneck hitch installed on my new 5th wheel by the RV dealer. I ordered it online and had it drop shipped to the RV dealer. The dealer had never heard of the GEN-Y and was so impressed with it they became a dealer. Now for the problems. I had issued with the turn radius with the shortbed, the 5th wheel was to close to my cab when turning, and not that sharp of a turn either. I was very depressed and wondered what was I going to do? So I called the big online seller where I had ordered it from. They were no help at all. I started searching around on the web and found an extender that moves the ball back 4 inches and fits right in the B&W pocket. Problem solved! But then I decided to really solve the problem and purchased a new more powerful Ford F350 Longbed truck with the puck system! No issues now right? Wrong!!!! So a months later, I was backed to finally go on a trip and guess what? There wasn't enough space between my the end of my tailgate and the 5th wheel. Argh!!!! So, I put the tailgate up and continued backing up a few inches more and got the GEN-Y down on the ball. But now the space between the bumper and the 5th wheel wasn't sufficient to maneuver. So I'm stuck again, way worse than my original problem with the shortbed. Wife wasn't impressed with the GEN-Y or me at this point. Spent all this money on a new truck and we couldn't go camping. AGAIN So back to the drawing board again. Searching around the internet I located a GEN-Y product uses the puck system and moves the ball location back by 5 inches. This product only costs another $500 plus dollars. And now you have a new contraption in your bed which defeats the whole clean and available bed. So yes, the GEN-Y is built really well, BUT it has cost me so much frustration and extra money it's just ridiculous! So before you install one, make sure that your clearances work for your truck. It didn't for me, twice!!!

Better mileage? Yeah, sure.

Airbags can blow out and the rubber torsion blocks wear out with time

As far as warranty, may depend on manufacturer. I have verified with Brinkley about switching out on a Z model and they prefer the Gen-Y (it is standard on the G model - choice of pin or gooseneck) and believe they will be better for the chassis and frame long term. Since warranty goes through them, they have said it will obviously not void it even though it is a Lippert frame.

Gooseneck is on heavier trailers because the trailer can lean with out flexing the trailer frame,as in horse trailers and equipment trailers that go off road. On semi trailers the fifth wheel stays flat but the truck frame and suspension is designed to flex.

I just got a Gen Y. So far love it a lot. I had a BW companion. That was a awesome hitch as well. I just tow more with a gooseneck. So removing a 5th wheel hitch all the time sucks. Plus i got my bed back. I called Gen Y they help me pick the right hitch. Awesome customer service. Also E trailer did great as well.

I used my brothers truck to tow our 5th wheel home and instantly took off the king pin and put a Reese Goosebox on it. My big reason was I need my truck bed. I put a BW turnover hitch in it as it wasn't factory prepped and now all I have to do is flip the ball over and I get my bed back instead of having to remove a 200lbs hitch. The ride is also better, but that wasn't my primary reason. It's a little more difficult to hook up, but you get used to it. Not all states require the safety chains, but I bought mine from Reese and hook them up every time. Better safe than sorry.

Well... not knocking it, but i have a question to anyone: Are the benefits worth the hassle of climbing in and out of the bed for the safety chains?? Also, once you get under, if you put the gate up, don't get in a rush and frustrated because your ball isn't lined up and pull out.

I have had my Gen-Y gooseneck on our Reflection for two years ...absolutely luv it! No maintenance, built extremely well. We use the B&W ball which gives a little extra height. 100% recommend Gen-Y over other brands.

We bought our Alliance Valor 40v13 last December. We never even towed it off the lot without the Gen-Y Executive hitch. We Absolutely love it. I did a ton of research and realized this is the safest and easiest way to tow. We however opted for the B&W Ball kit for our Ram Truck. I put the chain anchors in the rear position. I can reach everything standing on the ground. The B&W Ball is nice with the handle so you don't have to get grease everywhere when removing 👍

Fascinating! Thanks Sean. I would absolutely trust any product designed, manufactured and distributed by Amish or Mennonite craftsmen. My very first RV was custom-built in Manitoba (Canada). Quality and safety always come first. Crazy is almost as big as Lazy now! Double the cuteness! I just love Nash's and Maverick's new nicknames! LOL!

Is the Gen Y pinbox shorter than the OEM pinbox? It looks like it might be.

How many miles have you gone now and how is that gooseneck performing??

Great info...our Alliance had an Anderson hitch but we didn't have time to swap out our 5th wheel hitch so I removed the Anderson and am using the big ol' plate. Will definitely consider the Gen-Y thanks to this! (Plus love the cross :))

It's the law because of the semi's and the people lobbying for them. There is no other reason that you need one.

Hi guys, great video. Question, my wife and I are looking at getting an Alliance fifth wheel, upgrading from a travel trailer. Have you noticed any stability issues when towing with the gooseneck versus the fifth wheel hitch? I’ve heard the gooseneck hitches don’t provide as much stability, just curious if there’s anything truth to this? Like you, I’d prefer to use a gooseneck in order to keep my bed space.

Love love love our Gen-Y Gooseneck Hitch!

I looked into this gen-y setup but went with the Reese goose box instead because Reese is the only goose box that is approved that doesn’t void the RV frame manufacturers warranty I’m super impressed with how it works👌👌👌

Did you look at a goose box before you went with The Gen X

Hey you two. Fellow Valor owner and full timer over here. 2022 41v15 but cart before the horse situation with the truck on order from Ford. So glad I stumbled upon your channel as I’ve really enjoyed your upgrade video and I had been considering swapping to the Gen-Y goose as well. Really informative video. Loved that you went by the Gen-Y factory and had those pros install it. Keep up the good work, you’re fun to watch.

Hey!!! Nice hitch. You should try that first 1k miles on I-10 like we did.🤣

Any frame failures do to the added leverage?

Are you towing with a standard bed truck? If so how is your turning radius?

Does that camper have a lippert frame? From what I've heard the manufacturer doesn't consider the Gen y gooseneck to be compatible cuz it could damage the frame but that's just what I've heard.

This is interesting 🤔 thank you for sharing! I am hitch shipping now...fellow Alliance owner...and leaning toward the pull rite super glide for my standard bed truck. I wonder how this hitch performs on short bed and standard bed trucks. Also curious, how much weight did it add to the front end of the camper? Is it much heavier than the original pin?

Gen y makes nice stuff

It's a Wolf Pack!!!

I’m wanting to put one on our Montana when it comes in but they say Keystone hasn’t approved it yet. So no frame warranty.

Just saw the video, great video and content. One question. I saw where the tailgate was an issue of almost hitting the trailer when hooking up and unhooking. Is your truck a long bed? Thank you Safe travels

So is that on a short bed or long bed? Will it work on short bed?

Great video. What lift/leveling kit you have? Do you have airbags? I'm glad a found this video as I am about to buy a 5th wheel and have been doing some research about goosenecks.

Why such a rough ride in the first 500 to 1000 miles?

I too was wondering if the gen-y would void trailer warranty because of the change of the frame strain point.

Did you fuel mileage get better

I'm working on getting a camper and I've just ordered of these. For my money this is a better option then buying a 5th wheel for my bed as well.

Great video, great review. I'll be adding this to my Alliance Paradigm 340RL this May.

Are you in a short bed dually and if so can you achieve a 90 degree turn obviously with rv connected.

I have a 2022 Ford F-350 with the puck system installed can I pull my fifth wheel out and just drop a ball in?

Will this stop the chucking. I’m up against my payload weight on my Grand Design 150 series towing with a Tundra. I do bottom out on bridges sometimes.

is the mileage difference because you are not in and out of the throttle when the trailer would bounce with the old hitch?

I just wish it was as long at least, or longer than the OEM pinbox

Another plus for the gooseneck is that it is a safer solution. I've seen many RU-vid videos of trailers crushing the truck bed because a pull test was not performed when pulling away or having your arm ping between the trailer and truck bed because the trailer rolled off the hitch. It's very difficult to have that happen with gooseneck - it's either hitched up or it's not.

During your research, did you compare the Gen-Y to the Reece Gooseneck? Many say that the Reece Gooseneck is the only one that won’t void the Lippert frame warranty?? I want to go to this type of pin box when I get my new truck so I’m curious as to why you picked this one over any other gooseneck type options.

Does this hitch void your rigs frame warranty ?

Very interesting. Thanks~ The dogs look good...🙂

I already ordered and I'm installing on Monday. Great video!

How much did it cost

I have the bumper pull torsion hitch and absolutely love it !

You have some great pups! Love the trailer as well.

Better quality ride definitely more bed. Space absolutely love it.❤

Can use this system with a short bed

Hey, great video but a quick question it looks like your Ford is obviously a Dooley but it looks like it's a short box. What's the length of your box on your Ford? And do you find that the Gen Y hitch allows you to get close to 90 degrees or did you have to get the gen y extension to push the ball back further in the bed?

What happened to the followup review? Did she leave you for a Gen-X?

??? Y would you place all of that pin weight on such a small focused area. I see you have the ford factory 5th wheel “puck” system in the bed. It allows for better weight distribution on the truck frame.

Beautiful new setup! Congratulations!!!

Curious what options you have for changing the height to make your trailer level using this type hitch. I have the B&W 25K fifth wheel hutch and it has some adjustment up and down for height. I am curious if you had any issues when you switched over. Is your F350 4WD? I hear there are balls that are taller in case you are low in the front and need to raise the height

I believe Gen Y also makes a 5" offset ball if you need more room between truck and trailer. Also do you find it more difficult to hitch up or getting things lined up properly? Or is it a two person job, or if you have a bed view camera how does it go? I know with my traditional fifth wheel as you know is fairly simple to hitch. It does look like an awesome hitch though.

I have missed seeing you! 🥰

We haven’t traded in our TT for a 5th wheel yet but are in the market. A while back there was information out there that said if you swap out to a gooseneck, it would void the trailers manufacturers warranty. Do you know if there’s any truth to that?

Thank you for your input, stay safe out there.

Good morning, loved your videos, my question is how do you feel about the gen-y performance now that you have some towing time on it ?? Thanks 😊

It is approved for use on LCI frames? (without voiding a frame warranty) ...I know the Reese Goose box is. That's why I went with it.

Could I get details on the tow rig? Lift wheels tires Accesories? And thoughts of what you like/dislike about it! Thanks

Would this work on a truck that is lifted. I added a 2 inch lift to my fifth wheel trailer but my trailer is still not level. My truck only has a 3 inch lift. I tried a andersen hitch but it put my trailer to high in the front.trailer

I purchased and tried the gen-y , a disappointing product , the ride was so bad my wife couldn’t stand to ride in the cab .

Cost

Did you look at Reese Goosebox as well? Or any other hitches before choosing the Gen Y?

What ball setup is on your truck

Those welds look like boogers.

Does it void your frame warranty? The Reese goosebox does not. Thanks

4:59 - glitch in the matrix

Is it difficult to unhitch? I saw another user post a video where he said unhitching was a two-person task

easy to hookup = easy to steal. How do you secure a gooseneck? 5th wheel trailers have kingpin locks, which work pretty well.

We were considering this hitch but have been made aware that this will void your rigs warranty?

Greetings! I'm actually doing the very same research right now for our rig. I have to admit that my focus is not really on freeing up the bed of my truck, it's more around ease of hitching and smoothing out the ride. The question that I have, that I've not seen addressed anywhere, is how is the side to side flex? The up/down is handled by the torsion bars, but what about side to side? Thanks for the great video! It was very informative and good to see the ease of the switch out. Safe travels!