Folykl & Kuprum: Witch of Void & Knight of Hope 

>spells it "fourchan" Lol, excellent work there, mate. Come back when you learned about Google.

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@@mysteriousanonymous7992 >spells it fourchan >Gets called out >Forgets the up, in shut up >Edits post anyway

@@evergreen6702 i think they meant "shit" i mean u and i are right next to each other

@@__-wc5zn fair

This has 69 likes, I'm afraid to ruin it at 2 am.

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413 likes guys

@@1icedcoffee277 i want to like it but its still at 413

i mean considering he seems to have an excessive amount of energy, its probably like,,, soothing?

Case in point: the Reader seeing them as one single "large lumpy troll" at first

It would DEFINITELY make sense, seeing how If Kuprum and Folykl have been doing pranks for a while, specifically in that area of town, It would definitely catch on that there's a powerful Yellow-blood in the area. Furthermore, as Cirava has said, people can report trolls with psiis as "More powerful than they actually are." , making him a huge target if he's done this with multiple groups of highbloods. What I noticed in the route was despite them being in the alley right next to that group, they never looked over or around and noticed the two giggling in that alley, and you as the player didn't notice them at all until you stumbled into the alley yourself. Folykl could be the key to keeping him safe, manipulating his psiionics to make him less noticeable and effectively blacking him out from prying eyes.

That is a good point. Even when Kuprum has demonstrated his powers on Reader and the streetlights reacted to his psii, the bluebloods did not try to find the source of what caused the lights to go crazy. Remembering how Kuprum hacked the highbloods' GPS, not only that he is safe from being traced back with his own program, but it is likely he will also be undected with Folykl's Void powers because she is with him during these moments. Talk about a double firewall, huh.

APChibiDubtalia Absolutely, though I find it quite sad that when he reaches a certain age he's going to have to leave her, thus most likely killing her, unless she can find a sustainable power source. I'm sure her void powers could shield her from being found, but if she can't move on her own without his help, she's essentially doomed. This leads me to believe that these trolls we meet will all come to some big help in the end, they can't just simply be cast off after friendsim....can they?

Kuprum does want to follow under Trizza, but not the same way as Tegiri does for justice or Chahut with the Grand Highblood & the religion that follows it. Maybe he will once find out that being a living battery...is not as hot as it was in the hentais. Or have conflicted feelings that he would leave his dying moirail behind. No known cure is mentioned in Hiveswap, if it is temporary or something Goldbloods could be born/develop in sweeps. Their way of expressing this pale relationship may be odd for others to see, but it is something special between them that they can understand. Unsure if their roles will be major or minor, but something about the duo will play in Hiveswap, intentionally or not. With Folykl hiding Kuprum, we won't even detect them if they had pulled the strings in a way. XD

Plus, copper's used for wires. He is a battery, after all

Maybe an added sea theme, since Aphrodite was born from sea foam and he's going to 'serve' a sea-dweller? Overlap between Hope and Life's sexual themes?

ValdemarCristino Fontenele Andrade nice thinking 🤔💭

Pretty much exactly! Plus the longer I wait, the more content I'll have on each troll as later acts come out. I'm sure we'll be talking about these dweebs for years to come :D

Sorry mate few seconds off, someone beat you

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@@coreblaster6809 I noticed X3. I did congratulate them on their speed :3.

Yes this is way better than your original saying “first” might i have done something that made you change this? If so i am proud of him

@@bananaman6046 No? I edited it because of a spelling error. I had mistakenly written 'Josh Egbert' rather than 'John Egbert'.

Thanks! I love those two :3

I see Heir as one who "Changes" for the benefit of others, or more "invites Change" for the benefit of others. Cirava changes the MSPA Player in both of their paths, and in both cases the change makes the Player very popular and well-liked. But things go better for both Cirava and the Player if Cirava simply invites them to dress themselves as they wish, rather than assuming direct control and changing their image personally. I see their depression and un-Hopefulness as a result of their Doom influence, personally. That's the basic gist of my thoughts wrt them. As for Tegiri, I wouldn't say I'm married to Knight, especially since Teals seem inclined to RP Knights as a Caste. Maybe you're right! Can't say for sure just yet.

Thanks! :D I wrote about Gor-Gor a bit on Tumblr, the tl;dr is he strikes me as a Thief of Space roleplaying a Knight. Also, I love him.

+optimistic Duelist huh,,, I see a lot of people writing and drawing him either way. I could definitely see him as a knight, he acts very confident in his position until one of his peers ((acquaintances ?? Superiors on the Hemospectrum? )) arrives and then loses all of his confidence at once, becoming extremely tense. Afterward, he puts on his cool mask again and either invites you to be his friend or ditches you. I could see the arrogance associated with thieves, but perhaps this mask of a cool and suave businessman is what will clue us into his true class. Furthermore I would like to point out as well that his name itself gives us a small clue to this uncomfortable behavior in public, Agoraphobia. If this is true, then the fact that he admires your choice in the Rainbow Drinker serum and offers to step outside to show it's full affect really gives us a view to the side of Tagora underneath the Businessman front, a kid who pretends to be collected, tries desperately to increase his social standing, and is a total weeb for vampires. Now what I would LOVE to see is the fact that since he is of the Space-bound, like all of our Rainbow Drinkers so far, and that he has expressed interest in them like Kanaya did, that he himself will turn out being one, though sadly I think it's limited to the Jade class.

Witches depending on Knights to protect them... Somehow I feel that could also work as a reference to Final Fantasy VIII using that kind of Character Relationship as a huge theme of its main plot...

We don't know, but it's probably a combination of cultural conditioning (since Aspects are ultimately just primordial ideas/patterns of thought) and outright genetic manipulation that results in each Caste being linked to an Aspect. Scratch doesn't have to PERSONALLY enforce this stuff himself if he can instead delegate the work to high-ranking trolls like the Purplebloods and the Empress, which seems to be his typical modus operandi. Bear in mind that this is just a guess, though. We'll probably learn more in future Hiveswap Acts.

Right... a note about Trizza in Dammek's cellar says "she's in this with soemoen else - the white man?" which suggests that she does have a connection with Doc Scratch. But this means that one of the trolls Xefors and Dammek are in contact with, or maybe even Xefros himself, knows of this "white man".

But scratch doesnt have heart powers, he has rage, lil hal isnt real dirk

artEnthusiast [AE] pal, Lil Hal is an exact copy of dirk a *prince of heart* and heart is linked to the soul and what can LE do? Destroy souls. So i don’t know where you got that JUST TROW THAT EQUIUS AND LIL HAL AWAY AND HE IS ALL GAMZEE (half of gamzee)

@@bananaman6046 no, no, no, i understood what you ment the first time, but what im saying is that lil hal is an ai, so i dont really think classpect applies to objects.

You're not wrong! Rogue was actually my original guess for her, before the Friendsim dropped. I think Knights have as much to do with manipulating Aspects "positionally", since I see Knight/Page partly as the "Give" to Thief/Rogue's "take". It'd be interesting if she's canon confirmed to be a Thief later on! I just felt that exploring the relationship between her and Kuprum as a potential example of the synergy that Magician and Knight classes seem to share would be the most evocative way to explore their characters from a Class perspective, since I don't know anyone who's brought that up besides myself. At the end of the day that's not much more than a gut feeling combined with a vague sense of the motifs of each class I've developed, though. It's fun to use that view to spur conversations like this one, so thanks! :D

how are you going to make void with out taking something to leave a void in the first place

and plus taking of void would leave something be hidden beside void to fill the void

Searonix they are pure children and the hero system is always a fun one to explore

Knight of Doom is actually the main Classpect I've been considering for Zebruh. My main hang up with it for Ardata is that she doesn't have the duality imagery I'd expect from a Doom player. As for what I think she is...I honestly don't know? I've been trying to get my head around the Classes of the trolls who's signs we DO know before I try to tackle her and Marvus. I guess Witch of Blood would be my first guess, but I wouldn't be surprised if she turned out to be a Space or Mind player, either.

Ardata has been suspected of being a Scoro, a dersite heartbound due to her good end talking about her acting as a sinister person and figuring out her identity. She's quite discontent and doubts herself a lot, and has said she wanted to leave behind her life on Alternia as well.

I pronounce it like "follicle", which is what her name is based off of.

I say Follicle too, but I pronounce the i like the u in turn because... it's y, and as a German I associate y with the sound ü.^^ Oh and... I think the creator also said her name's pronounced as Follicle? But don't quote me on that.

Yes the creator said that her name is pronounced just like "follicle". I pronounce Kuprum's name with the first "u" like how you pronounce "blue" or "glue"

He is not her familiar, the Void itself is her familiar. Kuprum is just a Knight, and knights are good in serving Witches.

Yes

Light is not energy. Well, physical light is, but Light as an aspect is not. Actually, Life is connected to energy and psionics (Feferi's lusus, familiar of Life, with her huge psionic power, and the Condesce, Thief of Life, "stealing" the powers of all other casts).

Rogue or Thief of Breath, I think. I've kinda been having trouble with Polypa, honestly!

It's the Hiveswap Friendsim, and it's available on Steam and the Android Google Play store. There's also youtube videos around of people lets playing them

Also Tegiri is into anime role playing, so it make sense for him to roleplay as a knight

That's my guess too, actually! Great minds think alike, I guess ;)

Callie provides two different definitions for Passive/Active. She tells Dirk about the invitation/action interpretation when she talks about Princes and Bards. She tells Roxy about Active classes using their aspect to benefit themselves vs. Passive classes using it to benefit others when she tells her about Thieves vs. Rogues. There is no simple one or the other answer, and anyway I don't agree with your initial point anyway. There are several moments where one can interpret Knights "inviting" their Aspect. One notable one that comes to mind is Karkat dropping Sollux down the stairs and knocking out his teeth/drawing Blood from Sollux's mouth, which Sollux actually wakes up thrilled about. That moment fulfills both functions of a Knight read as a Passive class. Karkat is "inviting Blood", because that was an obvious accident where Karkat just accidentally acted as a channel for Blood to happen, and it was for the benefit of Another, not Karkat himself.

@@optimisticDuelist I did read it pretty fast, but still hold to my interpretation of which is active and passive. In the example you gave, karkat "invited" blood but there's a clear difference between inviting and inviting the service of something. In that moment, karkat served blood unintentionally. I find intending to wield your aspect to be a matter of personal growth not classing. Another matter I've observed on the difference between active and passive lies in the person's relationship with their aspect. The relationship active classes have with their aspect is oftentimes contentious at best. Witches, maids, mages, lords, princes, and even thieves must resolve a conflict they have with their aspects before earning the right to wield it freely. I cannot say that pages have this relationship when I've noticed that between knights and pages, knights are the ones in conflict with their elements, not pages. Dave spends most of his time racing against the clock and running himself ragged. Karkat had to fight against a caste system based in blood and one of the major antagonists of the series is someone he shares a blood oath with. heck the knight of hope shown here own hopes for the future are incredibly bad for him.

Hope does have omnipotence, it makes imaginary things real by believing in them! But no, Scratch doesn't have any Hope traits. All the space traits he has he got from being a first guardian, and the Light traits from the cueball (although the nature of the cueball itself was not explained in the comic).

@@lordbuss your really smart. What do you think of the idea of hiveswap act 3 or 4 introducing some cherubs in a troll call esq manner?

I'm not smart. I just read optimistic Duelist and bladekindeyewear thoroughly. And i have no idea about the presence or absence of cherubs.

synergetic Masked wowowowowow, *SERVE ME OR FEEL THE INFINITE WRATH OF MY WORDS*

He said there'd probably be a Class quiz eventually, yes. I'm looking forward to it, myself :)

optimistic Duelist ok cause I been wanting to make a fanfic about me and my friends. Going by Dahni's site I'm either a page or knight of heart (my mom doesn't trust me to have my own phone, so have to use hers)

Probably.

oh, really? cool