Force Dyad: Let's Finally Talk About This 

Star Wars Theory it’s because their force cousins Palpa created Anakin Skywalker 100% in my mind that is why they are connected in the force!

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She had to accept it, only then she would have become a Sith, in the way Palpatine wanted

In order for Palpatine to transfer his essence to her, she needed to become a Sith. He couldn't transfer his essence to a Jedi.

Lol

Foolish to belive that was his plan :p He planned to bring the together to get the power from himself. Sound silly to you? Remember that Palpatine litterally controlled the entire Clone wars to destroy the jedi and rule over the galaxy. He said his "plan", so his "plan" will fail. This gave him time until Ben joins rey. Palpatine is a awesome mastermind don't think he is so foolish :p and his goal was *always* to live on forever

Maybe cause he had to be struck down in anger and not desperation

that's actually a pretty dope but probably unintentional reference

Seth Ross Nice gramma

@Alistair Stormbreaker am i glad that didnt happen

@@Unknown-zt8mz nyce grammamma

Lukeey Bad try to save it

I agree 100%

Her outfit went from bad to great to terrible

Ironic, isnt it?

Oryx TheMad God at leas the actor got something out of it right

Not everybody is perfect

@@sheevpalpatine9935 the man himself; Papa Palpatine

Oryx TheMad God yes I am the senate

....Kreia and the Exile felt each other's literal pain. If that's not one in the force then I don't know what is.

@@josepheastham9717 That is a FANTASTIC example that I totally spaced on!

That isnt canon anymore.

@@dudewatches6125 what im saying is that its nothing we have seen i Canon dont get so fucking offended i know revan is canon but most of kotor isnt canon no more.

@@dudewatches6125 wait i thought disney remove the entire legends pre 2012 and replace with "their" legends?

Yeah thats why it makes no sense Snoke will stay for me an individual and not controlled by Sidious. But they ruined Snoke though

Just another stupid plothole in this shitty sequel trilogy!

@Kory Chouinard yes but you dont think Palpatine would have Snoke give updates? "Yes my lord I created a Dyad"

@Kory Chouinard so they were already a Dyad before hand there was no reason to "bridge" it as you say. Part of the "evidence" used is Kylo saying "I feels it too" when torturing Rey in TFA to explain the Dyad was there from the start. The "bridge" shouldve started then because Rey downloaded Kylos force training and lightsaber skills.

@Kory Chouinard that still doesnt make sense if you are the same in the force...one thing...there is no reason for a bridge. The full explanation won't fix any of the problems it causes. The fact that its unexplained and the plot hinges on this makes it an issue for existing now

So pissed at that part, Rey looks like she's saying oh hey biss thanks for giving ur life to me u dead I live bye bye

I actually liked that. Shows that Rey never truly loved her abuser and was a good person.

1) his spirit went into her 2) the Jedi weren’t supposed to grieve the dead

@@djmaydraws3862 She's pregnant with him, so no loss. 😋

Rey felt more when Leia died! Force dyad is a weak plot device used only to benefit Rey, stealing necklaces and passing lightsabers doesn't count when Ben ends up dead without any acknowledgement.

Yep. That's one of my favorite parts of the S.T, there's so much potential for expanded media!

@Richard Pajooh Star Wars is filled with mcguffins. The Force itself is whatever the plot needs it to be.

CT-3796 in the sequel trilogy the force was whatever it needed to be and that’s my problem with it personally. Traditionally the force was always kinda governed by a set of rules in the Star Wars universe, there were certain things it could and couldn’t do. The way these new films were written though it did become the ultimate mcguffin. They really should’ve sat down before they made force awakens and planned out a basic storyline for all 3 films it blows my mind that they just kinda let the directors wing it

@@jeremyroberts8822 I'm sorry, please watch the Original Trilogy again, and start noting down each force ability that comes up in order. Force Ghosts? Empire Strikes Back. Telepathic bond? ESB. Force Lightning? RotJ. Also others like Super-Jump. They keep coming until the very end. There were never "rules" laid down. The prequels kept themselves to the OT, but if they didn't, they couldn't have explained why they didn't use them later.

@@jeremyroberts8822 The Force is everywhere and in everything, it's life itself, a mystical force that binds everything, i'm pretty sure the damn thing can allow any individual with anything, so long as you have the potential, none of tht sounds like it wrote itself some rules on how it should properly work lol

His literal bloodline though

@@dammitrey1819 plus being backed by the force ghosts

Lmao fucking travesty what they did. Bring back the EU. NOW. We aren’t asking anymore, Disney. We are telling you.

slamexo0 shut up, you dweeb.

Armando no, u

Shouldn't have kissed. I didn't mind who died, Rey or Ren.

I hate that he died. That was so lame. The only real problem I had with TROS. He should have been the one to bury the sabers and be Ben Skywalker or something.

@@streetrat48 and then stand trial for all his war crimes and genocides?

The movies actually begin with TROS

Try new Force Dyad, now with fabric softner lol

@@frankomatic2000 "The force is strong with this one." - Every real Star Wars character who is not a MaRey Sue.

Pre-wash spray. Like shout or spray n wash😛

It's been a thing in KOTOR but ok

@@randomidk8781 No it hasn't.

Mitologicamente... Grivitt! Or you’re just salty that the trilogy wasn’t what you’d imagined it would be. Can’t stand the evolution of the story and it’s concepts because it’s not the way you saw it. In the end this is a science fiction/fantasy story about the everlasting war between supernatural dark and light beings. “The force” is a fantasy concept and can be seen as a form of “science based magic”. Stop watching if you don’t enjoy it just don’t call it “a pile of shit concealed as art” just to act like you’re “superior” to people who do like it because you’re just not.

@@BG-kf3ql but it is terrible, it does a terrible job of closing out the saga.

Quetzal 24 That’s your opinion, a lot of fans really liked it. Just look up the audience scores it got. Point of the entire debate: To each his own.

@@BG-kf3ql nope im just not buying the hype, they fooled me w episode 7. Lost me w 8. 9 spent all its time trying to pick up the pieces. If you liked it good for you, let us criticize, Disney already owns the franchise, they will do what they want.

@@BG-kf3ql I'm not salty because the film didn't was like I imagined; I'm salty because Disney did what I ALWAYS thought It would do since the end of Episode VIII... If you like the new trilogy and the film, I really can understand why... Mine is just an opinion shared by a lot of other fans, but obviosly yours is another kind of opinion shared by another part of the fandom. But... this trilogy and the last film have a LOT of OBJECTIVE flaws. You can like the film, you can love it, but that flaws will stay. But I don't want to sound only like an hater, a lot of people argumented why this trilogy doesn't work... and I'm not doing it by myself only because I'm not so fluent in english like you could be so... that's ok, you like it, I hated it. Together we could always hope for a brighter future for the saga :)

Thank you!

Crap I forgot about them. Idk though Revan and bastila seem leagues stronger than Rey and kylo

The huge problem with this is that Rey is 100% fine after Kylo dies. She doesn't even care much for his death it would seem

Yeah like that time where fuckoffican met dickfuckican and force projected 2 fuck offs your way

Rogers Roger riiiight.

Pretty sure it should be spelt like that. But maybe not

Aaron Schilling yup. 2 note version of a triad.

Thought the same thing lol

That's how I thought it would have been spelled

@@howiefletcher2749 I think they are both valid spellings. Diad refers to only music, while dyad refers to anything consisting of two parts. I guess Star Wars could use whatever they want, idk if they've written it anywhere though.

Better left Force Dyad as the only one that destroyed Palpatine forever.

It does work in the movie. Force dyad was the best part. Otherwise I agree with you

Those three movies were a mess anyways they add to many plot holes than the original and prequel trilogies ever did. Also Mr. Abrams perverse the prophecy that yoda had in rise of skywalker it was a pretty stupid and unnecessary decision. Even though I have only watched the force awakens I couldn’t even bring myself to watch the other parts of this perverse trilogy.

idk i think it was better that he did what he did rather than follow what he got from TLJ

I didn't enjoy episodes 7-9 because they don't feel like star wars to me. To me they were just shity half-assed ripoffs of several Expanded Universe stories as well as canon that Disney got rid of and the writers ripped off without actually knowing or understanding much about star wars lore. At least with George Lucas writing the movies you could accept the fact that if he created an element of story you didn't like you couldn't really complain because he invented star wars plus he always made it blend in and feel more natural over time in the story but Disney has turned half the franchise upside down and kind of shit on the fans. I mean HTF can Disney say that Reven was no longer canon when he was the lead of a lucasarts video game in addition to a bunch of other things they just disappeared.

@@earendilthemariner4307 Revan is canon

To be fair, the prequels had that same issue. I'm not saying that was a bad thing, but it's sort of deja vu to me.

Kevin Vizcarra ya but the prequels were actually good

@@hydrogendiamond5830 a lot of prequels "mccguffins " were planned / thought out

@@maxfelson9467 name one mcguffin in the prequals which was only there to advance the plot lazily.

@@Thatdude61 thats sorta my point

Minoxidil Mission better than being picked up and thrown into a pit

@@agentnuka is it he pulled an ep3 :/

Actually it calls back to The Dark Empire comics. Palaptine returned in them and that is where his Force Storm power first appears. Luke and Leia inject light side energy into the storm, causing Palpatine to lose control. It consumes him then.

@@agentnuka Nah that's better because there's literally 5 films building to that point of redemption in anakin, this was shit

@@Justicar333 what do you mean inject?

SavageRicktator I think it could be explained that he was much more powerful and could probably resist it unlike solo and Rey who weren’t particularly powerful without their dyad

The truly terrifying part of that was the Force Tailor abilities of Palpatine, cos he rejuvenated a dope costume in the process.

@@TheLastPrimor the dark side is a pathway to many tailoring abilities some consider to be.........unnatural.

Personally, I thought that it came completely out of the left field, but at that point in the movie I just couldn't care anymore.

@@MrExDArte Force Slurpee! Shoulda had a slurping sound effect when he dew'd it!

No, that's just Force Healing...she just learned how to do it from Kylo Ren via her Dyad... Not defending the film, just trying my best to make literally any sense out of this train-wreck...

Force healing might only apply to smaller injuries or sickness, for example Obi Wan healing Luke in ANH and the snake in TROS. The force dyad thing might make force healing able to heal major things like the stab in Kylo's stomach or bringing someone back to life. Just my guess

lol exactly. would of been better if she didnt even heal the snake. now it doesnt make sense and saying the diad connection heals bigger injuries like death is just silly. this power was never introduced or spoken about in all of star wars. how would anakin not know of this ability and these two barely trained "jedis" used it like its as common as a mind trick?

@tropojaaa According to George Lucas himself at least a new power or location should be added in every episode, it isn’t a unexpected thing for new powers in this new trilogy since it’s a good way for Disney to attract people. When did Anakin had a opportunity to use it even if he knew the power? His mom was already so dead at that moment he arrived, and he was only a Padawan. He couldn’t heal Padmé cuz he wasn’t with her obviously. Rey read the ancient Jedi text and practiced this power with Leia’s guidance as shown in the film, as short as the scene was, for me it was enough to explain all the new power.

Force healing is a completely different power🤨. We've seen it before in the original film, as well as in The Mandalorian.

Eric Xie IRONIC I could sleep with other men wives, but not find one for myself. (Yes, I do admit I have a problem)

That is the effect, yes. The planning was all together poor, to say the least. The even went and canonized Knights of the Old Republic to make some of this work too, as that is the origin of the force connection, as well as the healing and life drain powers.

camendiv wait did they officially make the game cannon? That’s awesome.

@@MattBailz Well, some are arguing that it's just Revan and not the KotOR story. Either way, the powers come from those games and Revan at least IS canon.

Yeh but tbh kinda saved star Wars, of they weren't this exceptional the amount of plotholes would be too much for the series

You *DO* wanna be *THAT* guy!!! Because the sequel trilogy and everything in it is pure trash!!!

Pól Leonard Taliesin Hywel that’s what I was thinking, the Dyad isn’t a dumb idea it’s actually cool and they could have made something really interesting if they actually had a plan from the start

A passing line from Palpatine relating it to the Revan connection would have been so cool

STFU

@@MrAnonymous389 🖕

@Anakin Skywalker who?

@Anakin Skywalker AniLuke,HEHEHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

@@Do-Dill-Berrys Goood,Let the Hate flow through you

Smoke was a puppet controlled by palp

Snoke didn't create the dyad.

@ yes he did. When he linked their minds, he inadvertently connected them when they touched a little bit later in the movie. It's because of snoke linking their minds that Ben and Rey are a dyad in the force.

@@larrypoppins6273 No, if Snoke breached their minds, how they can connect with each other after Snoke death? They were ALWAYS a dyad. They connected the second they meet. In The Rise of Kylo Ren, Rey felt when Kylo turned to the dark side although they meet six years later. A dyad can't be manipulated. Palpatine wanted to form a dyad with Vader but he could not achieve it. Maybe Snoke orchestrated some of the conections but he did not made the dyad. He knew that a conection was already there and he just used it for is own gain.

Dominic Hoover no he didnt. the Kylo ren comics literally show Rey and Kylo sensing eachother well before TLJ, Snoke may have heightened it. But it was made from the moment Rey awoke in the force,

For me TLJ redefined what's a dissapointing movie is

Then you should never enter a cinema again, because every Tarantino movie, every Johnson movie, every Phillips movie... basicly every quality movie will disappoint you. They all subvert expectations, ridicule us viewers and comment our society. This is the reason why they are art and not plain blockbusters.

@@archangelrsr1326 difference is they didn't subvert expectations for the sake of subverting expectation. TLJ made characters do illogical and out of character moments just to subvert our expectations. But hey just my humble opinion, I guess I can't enjoy Philip and Tarantino movies but hate TLJ.

@@archangelrsr1326 TLJ was at best a subpar movie with good ideas and bad executions, its not a masterpiece and you Rian fans needs to get over it.

@@waldrichlee305 nailed it 👌

I like that

Wouldn't she have to be devoid of weakness to be a Mary Sue? Like, the sequels weren't great, but Rey isn't a Mary Sue. She wasn't a well written character either. Her main weaknesses were always emotionally based. My favorite example to pick apart is the duel on Starkiller base. At face value, yes, that would make her into a Mary Sue, but dive a bit deeper here... 1. Watch her fight on Jakku with her staff, she knows how to fight in close without a blaster. 2. Kylo took a shot to the abdomen from Chewie's bowcaster and was pretty severely injured. 3. Kylo just killed Han, his focus was gone and he was emotionally torn. Ever try to fight while you're not focused on it? Now that duel doesn't seem so one sided, does it? He made short work of Finn, who had little to no training with anything but a blaster.

@@theindooroutdoorsman She's not a mary sue. People don't understand the trope and just label random characters with it. Here are the typical traits of a Mary Sue: tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CommonMarySueTraits Note that Rey doesn't fit into these at all. Also note that most people use the term wrong as TV Tropes points out: Mary Sue as Protagonist You Don't Like - An alarmingly widespread use of the term, and one reason a lot of people feel that the term has lost whatever useful meaning it once had. There are a lot of reasons why this usage is so common. Most obviously, as rants about and mockery of the Mary Sue phenomenon became increasingly well-known in fandom, it became increasingly easy to throw the term around as Flame Bait. The fact that so many of the other definitions are highly subjective doesn't help. People who accuse characters of being Mary Sues rarely admit that this is the definition they're using. The best way to tell is if their justifications for the character's Sue-hood are all based on shoehorning, Alternate Character Interpretation, misrepresenting the sources, and Accentuate the Negative. tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MarySue

"Mary Sue awakens" isn't that Episode IV? Oh wait no, it's okay because Luke has a dick.

@@samanthadavidson1653 thanks for giving me a link that explains why rey is a Mary sue. You're a lifesaver 😁🙌

I think the idea in Ep 1 was that the atrocity against Naboo would create positive feelings toward the Naboo born Palpatine. Also at that point Padme seems like a noob in senate politics so she probably only knew about the senate what Palpatine told her.

@@nemdenemam9753 i feel like palpatine influenced them with the force tho

@@loganwalker9475 Its possible, I just prefer to think it was more political shrewdness other than crude mind control. Also if it was mind control then he could have done it any time.

@@nemdenemam9753 probably, it would still be cool to see what the star wars universe would have been if bail organa was in charge though

@@loganwalker9475 probably something similar as it was under Valorum. I think it was Padme who said that she liked Valorum but he needs to go. Being a good person doesnt necessarily make someone a good chancellor. Especially in the times when a Palpatine level evil is working to undermine the already ineffective republic. The clones would have probably been used the same way to save the jedi and then to wage a war. The only difference would have been that Palpatine would have had to get rid of Bail Organa too at the "coup" which is not that hard. He could have set it up as if the jedi killed Organa and use that as pretense to grab power. All he had to do was give a politically ok reason to control the army, which he effectively already controlled.

She is granddaughter of the Senate! Explained.

Sean Hart yes but clever and cheap additions and explanations were done with each trilogy

Nick Fletcher. Anakin was much more powerful than Rey was until at the end of the movie. Rey literally only won against kylo ren, and you can tell by her fighting style that she didn’t have almost any training. Only when she faced sidious she was so powerful, but she was with kylo and figured her full power and all the jedi ghosts probably intervened to help her.

@@warrior1563 She also won against Snoke guards. She also knows how to fly even tho she never do that. She can repair Millenium Falcon even tho she never seen it. She can talk Wookie god knows why. She also knows droid language because reason. She is selfless even tho she was raised alone on planet where you HAVE TO fight to survive. EVERYONE trust her the second they see her and it goes on and on...

@Nick Fletcher. also with all that potential and what not he still gets beaten by the more experienced Dooku and Obi Wan...

Snoke is obviously a clone from exegol. Somehow either the original snoke knew of the force or the sith eternals were able to implement those abilities through the clone technology and through what was the essence of palpatine. It should have been explained on film and it would likely taken less than 5 minutes of screen time to do so.

Rey and Ben - 2 beings, 1 in Force. Sheev and Snoke - 2 beings, 1 in DNA. No plothole.

I tbink that is what always stated but not well explained, especially in the movie.in novelization is where is mentioned, for examole in TFa, kylo felr a connectiin when he met her and in TLJ that she learnt training from him. Although if yo analyzed, in the movies, she only tends to do things that she has seen kylo did before.

@S2 Turbine All hail Valkorion!

Look what you have made

That actually a refrence to rule of two right?

@@MarkTeaford Do not fear their feeble attack my faithful... NONE CAN PREVENT THE RETURN OF THE SITH!!!

@@harizirfan5117 I thought so

The visual dictionary already explains some stuff

Erastus Mwandingi Indeed, it’s great. I’m sure the Art of TROS will likely fill in a lot of good intel as well

LOL!

@@goldthwaithigginsondorr2005 That's literally the entire franchise tho. Not just Disney.

@@thevenom2731 not necessarily, when Lucas was in charge you didn't need to read extra material to understand what's actually going on

Yeah he would absorb Rays force power and become more powerful because he has more training than Rey

plot to destroy the republic by the jedi*

Sorry. Changed it now

Never fear, we dealt with them. The Jedi are no more! :-)

I'd be interested.

@@thevenom2731 I did not see that coming. Alright. But I want to warn you this is a long rant. On December 18-19 I got the opportunity to watch all nine films of the Skywalker Saga at the Megaplex in the Utah State from the USA. From 7pm on the 18th to ending on the 19th at 7:30pm. From what I gathered to formulate my opinion, is that all three trilogies do not sync up visually, but have the heart of Star Wars' storytelling in terms of focusing on the Skywalker family. Star Wars 1-3 focuses on Anakin's fall to the dark side. 4-6 Focuses on Anakin's redemption on top of his son training to becoming a Jedi in the middle of a galactic war. 7-9 focuses on Ben Solo's redemption from falling prey to the dark side, Rey Palpatine finding her place in the Galaxy in the middle of the unfinished galactic war from the original trilogy. Most everyone, and the sequel trilogy felt jipped, because their nostalgic characters were dying left and right when it really wasn't their story. I think people wanted the characters from the original trilogy to be a larger focus, rather than a story of passing the torch to the new cast members of Star Wars. I've told people many times the reason we did not get flashback scenes as much that are were post-Return of the Jedi and pre-The Force Awakens, because of the fact the actors are old and de-ging CGI affects on them would like far worse than when they de-cgi Governor Tarkin and Princess Leia in the Star Wars spin off film: Rogue One. We did get a flashback in the Rise of Skywalker And it was pretty decent, but imagine if we had three films with that de-aging CGI mechanic and then three films of the new cast of Star Wars. That's one of the reasons the prequel trilogy going into the original trilogy and the original trilogy going into the sequel trilogy doesn't look as good visually. They still captured the heart of telling the story of the Skywalker family, however in my opinion. They all are beautiful movies visually, but it is clear how much of a contrast in technology is in the movies. Disney is making up through novels and comics and video games and spin-off TV shows of what happened post-Return of the Jedi and pre-The Force Awakens and I think that's the smartest approach in terms of telling a conclusive story for Luke, Han, Leia, Chewbacca and Lando. Otherwise telling their story post-Return of the Jedi and pre-The Force Awakens in cinematic fashion would confuse and bewilder and even disappoint many fans. From the get-go, the reason I feel people were excited for The Force Awakens was primarily the fact the original cast from the Original Trilogy was making a return and they wanted their return to be nostalgia filled and them going on an adventures together and coming out on top from the villains. Instead the sequel trilogy taught that these legacies were broken all because Palpatine little by little corrupted Ben Solo in falling prey to the dark side just as he corrupted Anakin Skywalker. It shows us life still happens even after wonderful victories and triumphs. It also teaches that if we aren't careful, history will repeat itself within family. The Skywalker has and will particularly effect the entire galaxy, because the the family is strong in The Force. Their impact in the galaxy is game changing in every sense of the form. You have Anakin Skywalker who is created by Palpatine and inadvertently the Force intervened by making him a messianic figure to defeat the Sith for a time, then you have Luke Skywalker who is to redeem the Messianic figure and then you have Ben Solo, who has to grow beyond them all and carry the legacy onward. "We are what they grow beyond. That is the true burden of all masters (and parents)." -Yoda Now many are upset with Palpatine's return. For me I feel differently, because his return was inevitable for a number of reasons. 1. Books that were published by Disney of Star Wars that were set in after Return of the Jedi foreshadowed heavily his return. He is the main villain throughout Star Wars 1-6 and it makes sense to me that he wouldn't be defeated so easily by Anakin throwing him over a figurative cliff. The mastermind who raised up an empire wouldn't die so easily. In my opinion he knew that Vader was going to be redeemed by his son and that his empire would lose to the rebellion. We learn from books published by Disney that the emperor provided the necessary contingencies foreshadowing his return after losing the Battle at Endor. 2. I was very concerned in The force awakens when Ben Solo spoke to Vader's fractured charred helmet calling out to his grandfather and showing him the darkness of the Force "again". Mainly because Anakin had restored balance by bringing down the Emperor's Empire. Then you find out in the Rise of Skywalker that Palpatine spoke to Ben Solo and showing him the dark side of the force with the voice of Darth Vader. Palpatine also created supreme leader Snoke whether that is a broken clone of Palpatine or that he biologically made a Frankenstein of a monster I don't know. But it makes sense that he would create a dark side force wielder no one ever heard of. 3. With Rey, being directly Palpatine's granddaughter, it would be a wasted opportunity if she did not confront her very grandfather at the conclusion of the Skywalker saga. Let alone a wasted opportunity, if Ben Solo did not confront the very being who seduced him to the dark side. 4. I was once told Palpatine's return in The Rise of Skywalker nullifies Darth Vader's redemption in becoming Anakin Skywalker. For me personally, redemption shouldn't be discounted by the amount of lives you take rather, the life you take for yourself in self-sacrifice for something greater. Their actions are not in vain merely because their greatest foe survived. Luke himself told Rey that there was balance of the Force for a time. Darth Sidious was no longer the emperor and the way of the Sith was destroyed. We learn from various sources that Kylo Ren and supreme leader Snoke were not Sith. We know that as well mainly because they did not have Sith eyes.They simply used what force they could for dark purposes based on the knowledge of their ability. Kylo Ren thought by killing his father he would become a true sith, when we see throughout the later movies he felt extreme guilt rather than satisfaction for killing his father. I love how by the end of the rise of Skywalker you see Finn, Rey and Poe in a group hug. My mom asked me why Finn was in the middle of the hug and not Rey. My answer was simply because Finn rescued Poe and he also met Rey. He brought them all together because he had the courage to leave behind the First Order even if it was for just running away at first. I love that the film ends with Rey visiting Luke's home on Tatooine. The very first Star Wars film that was released in theaters known now as A New Hope began on Tatooine. To me there was no other way to end the Skywalker saga in many regards and I'm truly grateful for the sequel trilogy being created. I'm looking forward to see what else Disney has in store for a galaxy far, far away. . . . I have only two complaints regardingThe Rise of Skywalker. 1. We do not see the political state the galaxy is in now that the Emperor and his military are finally defeated. I am honestly one of the fans of Star Wars who enjoys the politics expressed in Star Wars. 2. By the end of the film Rey looks out in the distance and sees the force ghosts of Luke and Leia. I would have loved if it showed the force ghosts of Anakin, Shmi, Padme, Luke, Leia and Ben personally. I know Shmi and Padme are not a Jedi, but I think personally it would give more depth to the mythology of Star Wars if Jedi could bring back their loved ones in spirit form who are not Jedi. I would be seriously surprised if you read this far or agree with what I say. Either way I love all nine films of the Skywalker saga. Not equally mind you. But they definitely impacted me as a child, teenager and adult.

Joe Balaich same dude star wars is what you make of it not what others tell you

@@FATE522 I agree with everything you said

@@andrewgarnica7515 Thank you so much for taking the time to read what I say!

A huge ass l load of lie's

Shut up ur not the real anakin

Such a damn shame

@@ThaJFromDaA (Force Chokes You) You Shut TFU

They don't trust you, Anakin

But Daughter lives in Ahsoka right now.

Ben is of the Skywalker lineage, not Palp.

Well it kinda would be boring if the Skywalker family was the only strong ones in the force. If you take a look back into the movies, Emperor Palpatine was op as hell. Plus I don't think that it necessarily depends on the lineage as it does the person, I mean Starkiller from legends father got his butt whipped by Darth Vader but then his son is able to beat him.

Cody Schlenker starkiller isn’t OP lame kid, he’s a much better classic character then any Disney character.

Bdhjdjdhshsh Bsbsjjdhshshshdh yea he is lmao he beat the emperor AND VADER at the same fucking time that literally makes no sense what so ever.

Cody Schlenker Except, linage doesn’t matter remeber? Last Jedi and this movie are proof of that...

My powers have doubled since the last time we met, Count!

Dale Erdmann cause smoke is palpatine

Maybe he created it and that power just stayed with them.

That sounds so contrived though. It comes of more like Palpatine trying to look cool by pretending hes behind it, like some con man. Kinda like Fury and his eye.

I think the force created it and Snoke just says “I did it.”

But there is a scene showing that Palpatine basically grew Snoke in a lab

I tweeted him the same thing

Which is bullshit actually

Rommel Gonzalez unlike the rest of Star Wars, which all existed long before the movies were made.

...which is impressive. Very impressive...

@@henryrichard7619 Just like words, it's all made up.

Yeah it's not true canon, things were purely invented to help a badly written script.bad writers making it up as they go along or on the hoof.

Well safe to say, you definitely close...

Same

Jack Rinaldi Perfectly describes that.

Lando: "You stole my line.." *blows you up*

Same. I still firm believe he did the best he could with what he was given under the pressure he was. And it gives me hope for a Revan film.

Could've done better, but at least it's something that makes sense

Maverickbaritone nigga what?

nigga what?

(Drunken Irish Accent) Critical Drinker - But the script is like "Nah, it will be fine!"!!!

I also like every movie, except for 8 maybe. Another fact that the jedi didnt discover all the force secrets is maybe because of their arrogance

Actually it's mainly the Jedi who are so limited. Sith have displayed Light Powers many times in the past and don't really have any qualms about using whatever to achieve their goals.

I don't agree whit you. The jedis like Anakin, Kenobi, Qui-Gon, Yoda and the sith like Dooku, Palpatine expend decades training and studing the force and never come close of this kind of power. Rey have just 1 year of training and can heal people, teleport objects and use force lightning... For me this is #1 bullshit.

Igor Alves yea it makes no sense, force dyad or not. They basically just had to come up with something that would make the overwhelming strength of rey and kylo make sense. It’s so dumb that with little to no training rey is able to do stuff with the force that we’ve never seen from any other character in the films. Characters like Luke, Vader and palpatine should logically be way stronger than rey or kylo

@@jeremyroberts8822 Kinda funny how people shit on Rey and her powers like that even though the Legends they so much praise have exactly the same things. The Force Dyad is a new and I think pretty cool mechanism in SW, why THEY had it and not other is to be explained yes, but the Dyad explains a lot of the Sequels without being too much of a plot conveniance, and I'd like to see more of it in future comics and books about the after Rise of Skywalker-era.

Its a cop out. But if revan did it so czn rey

there’s literally zero connection between the two characters

It can be explained that she has proficiency with force lightning being a descendent of Palpatine. However, you're right, she has no business using force lightning, and I have friends who tried to defend her use of it. Force lightning is an inherent dark side ability that requires mastery. She at that point was not a dark side user, so she shouldn't be able to use the ability. It was a bad usage of the ability that disconnects it from pre-established lore.

It can simply be explained in that the writers decided to change the Force into mere superpowers that Rey just _has._ No actual training is necessary anymore in this new "Star Wars" as the powers just manifest like a mutants power in X-men. They basically said Rey can use force lightning because she's a Palpatine, not because she trained to use it like every other Sith in the canon of Star Wars lore. She's a Mary Sue so obviously she can use every force power without any training whatsoever.

And that's why I find her calling herself Skywalker..tolerable if not even kinda cool.

Gabriela Bădiloiu same I kinda liked it since it technically keeps the Skywalker line open in canon. Maybe we’ll get a version of Cade Skywalker in the far future.

This sounds really cool when people explain stuff but the movies just dont portray these concepts right imo

What do you consider similar times because there is like a ten year gap between Kylo and Rey

Love how all this BS is mentioned at the last movie. Never given proper teases or hints that would give the audiences that *"OH! It all makes sense now!"* reaction. Instead, most people are not buying into it.

It's all on RU-vid. If he somehow hadn't I'd be shocked

That series is the reason General Grievous was so disappointing in tge movies 😂 The*

Mace F****d him up

Of course; it’s amazing and to me is canon

I mean, all the clone troopers turned on the Jedi, he probably assumed the same had happened to Anakin

Breakinq Ankles well maybe he thought that the 501st had betrayed Anakin? I’m only guessing! 😅

Just because he fought beside them doesn't mean he would be directly in charge of the attack. Most of the clones have killed or tryed to kill there jedi general. So the jedi being in charge doesn't mean he was behind the attack. But after he saw the recordings then he knew that it was anakin

yeah he would need to already know that Anakin had betrayed the jedi to know that Anakin had betrayed the jedi. All the jedi had clones fighting with them. All the jedi were betrayed by clones. Obi Wan doesn't then see the 501st fighting jedi like all the other clones and then think "oh shit, Anakin is evil now?" lol

Why would he think anakin would ever do something like that. Note that obi wan doesn't no about palps, padme pregnancy or anakins dreams. Yoda should've done and known something if anything

So can Baby Yoda.

Except Ben Solo.

Poke Let’s hope he never heals fatal wounds like a hole in the chest. Never put that indignity on him

Yeah but that was a gash causing the creature pain. Only reason Ben could do it was because of their connection (at least that was my take away)

@@BoredOuttaMyMind he wasn't dead, yet though.

Force healing is a "light side" trait darth plagues probably wouldn't use a light side ability as he is a sith lord

The trinket was part of the protection

Indeed, Hans dice disappeared after Luke had gone

Ah. Then I guess I am just dumb. Never mind, disregard.

It’s an easy one to miss, plus nobody concentrates during terrible movies 😂

Nerdy Bernie yeah but it makes sense in Harry Potter