Forced air vs radiant kerosene shop heater ... WOW 

I agree with this you get a far greater heat output from these radiant heaters

Ohhhhh yeah. Haha.

The salamander vs the radiant heater is loud imo, but sometimes you need to talk to yourself to have an intelligent conversation right ??? LOL ... thank you for watching

It is definitely a radiant heater opposed to a forced air torpedo type as the noisier ones……..with these smaller ones you do still get a small air seen in front whereas if you go to something like the VAL6 there is nothing, you can drop a feather in front on mine well not too close to the radiant heater panel though.

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Fumes are not a problem with this heater. This winter we had heating trouble and used it inside the house for two days to keep us warm and it did great. I have customers that see this thing in action in my shop and can't believe it doesn't smell like normal diesel heaters do and bought one for them self's and love it. Just be aware of the E3 error code on these but I did a video on that on how to by pass that ... thank you for watching, hope this helps

@@CountryMileGaragethanks for the video! I’m getting a faulty one the smokes a lot tomorrow. Any ideas how if i should be able to get it running properly again?

@@aqib2000 fuel pressure screw maybe ? I'm not sure ... thank you for watching

Thank you I'm a big fan of the older rock music lol. Got the thermostat to work better btw

@@CountryMileGarage what did you do to make the thermostat work better. I have the same heater that should arrive today and have seen other people say that the thermostat is not that great

@@gregharrison7631 if you take the back cover off you'll see the wires and on the end it has a white plastic cover on it that's the thermostat. Carefully cut the zip ties and reroute it and let it come out with plug-in wire instead of where the fuel lines and filter are. And let it stick out at least a inch. Now it spot on only 3-4° difference with my wall thermostat. So if the wall reads 55° at the heater it reads 52°

@@CountryMileGarage hey thanks Mike I'll try mine when it arrives hopefully today and if it has the same issues it good to have a fix. Thanks for the quick reply and the video great job thanks

Oops not Mike (mile)

Thank you it depends how much you run it, but I fill it up about every other day so about a gallon per day ... thank you for watching

@@CountryMileGarage Thanks for the reply Sir

It's kerosene or diesel and no it doesn't give you a big diesel cloud when it starts up like a salamander would and you can't really smell it

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Thank you for watching and for the info ... I may look into that thank you

If I remember correctly in the manual it said it's a cool down function to get longevity out of the plate and the nozzle. Thank you for watching

For whatever reason this one didn't do that but still a great heater even after some of the trouble I had with it ... thank you for watching

Thank you for watching ... I'm glad it was helpful

LOL it's absolutely NOT my favorite ... it gets me out of a pinch once in a while and that's it. Thank you for watching

Maybe ... it is a little older unit or the mic just picks it up different. thank you for watching

No smell that I noticed anyway. I run regular diesel from the pump from day one. Hope this helps and thank you for watching

@@CountryMileGarage thanks

70.000 BTU is the size on this one ... thank you for watching

Then you will have to worry about fuel yelling up, you'll need to cut a hole in the wall for duct work and with heavy snow you have to clear it off every time lol just to name a few things. Thank you for watching

Thanks for responding... But all of the problems you mentioned are easily rectified...

I worked in the telecom industry for 38 years, some of which was spent splicing cable in the winter... We would put up a tent, and run a ventilator hose in from a propane fuelled "Mopeco" heater with fan unit. They worked great... Although in really cold weather the propane would freeze. Then we had a "Bottle Heater" All that to say, I would just fashion a wood adapter flange for a window and run a ventilator hose to it. Gonna give it a try and report back.

@@kellyklingbeil5802 yup by buying one of those heaters 🤣🤣🤣 just kidding a window adapter would be a idea

I have made a shorter one now that's in my newer videos ... thank you for watching

35 x 55 shop the ceiling is insulated the walls not so much lol

Thank you make sure to check out this video before buying one ... thank you for watching ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UBmBqoTNBxI.html

@@CountryMileGarage thanks.. however I use the kerosene wick heater and occasionally a 30k btu propane heater... we normally work in houses without power

@@wemcal 10-4 okay that makes sense ... thank you for watching

I have no idea to be honest with you ... sorry. Thank you for watching

no fumes

I'm no heating and cooling expert, I'm just a regular guy showing the difference between one and another heater. And I like my Mr Heater. Thank you for watching

Nope not for me anyway ... thank you for watching

I'd say the salamander would blow it out the furthest ... thank you for watching

@@CountryMileGarage Thanks. I'm wanting the best heat for working on vehicles outdoors in sometimes windy conditions.

@@garypitzer8729 it'll be noisy but the salamander definitely will be better suited for what you're wanting

@@CountryMileGarage Thanks for the information. Very helpful.

@@CountryMileGarage Which one is harder on fuel?

thank you and thank you for watching this little one is more quite you,ll like it

Glad I could help 👍👍👍

I haven't experienced anything like that. Condensation has part to do with the let's say your wrenches are cold and when you heat the shop there's what you can call condensation same with glasses going from cold to warm but that is it. I keep my shop at 40° when not there and heat it up to about 52° or so. So no problem for me on that

No. The condensation in propane comes from water vapor in the fuel. It's just part of the deal. Natural gas and butane have the same problem. But there's no water in kerosene/jet fuel.

I'd say something like that

@@CountryMileGarage I have the Master 80,000 BTU Kerosene/Diesel Radiant Heater, MH-80-OFR It's nice but the cooling cycle is 6 minutes.

@@AndreychukAndrey how are you liking the master ?

@@CountryMileGarage It's nice. Heats my 2 garage fast. It actually gets too hot. So I just turn it off. Just the cool cycle is to long. Overall I like it, had it for 3 years and so far so good.

@@AndreychukAndrey this thing runs for about 10-15 minutes and the 35x55 shop is heated up around 60°+

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I'd say so

The reason it feels warmer is because the old heater is a forced air heater, so if you aren't standing directly in that air stream, you aren't feeling the heat. If you open the doors, all the heat is gone with the wind. The new heater is a radiant heater. There is no air blowing out the front, it is radiating heat in all directions from that disk. If you can see the disk, the radiant heat is hitting you. Difference between standing next to an hvac vent or standing next to a campfire. Big difference. Especially if you don't have walls or open the doors ever. Radiant heat heats the objects in the space, not the air. The objects then heat the air later. If the air leaves, all the objects are still being heated exactly the same even in a stiff wind.

@@CharlieIIpics Good explanation, so more like infared heating then?

@@CharlieIIpics The difference between the heater and a campfire??? That's a BTU difference, the campfire is likely hundreds of BTU's, yes you will feel the wind blowing it towards you or away from you. But primarily it's a huge high btu open flame...

@@mrmotofy I have numerous forced air heaters of the 200k+ btu sizes and one diesel powered radiant heater at about 100k btu. If you stand directly in the path of the forced air heater, you are warm, anywhere else, you are not. If the room is not fully closed in, you are cold with the forced air heater after an infinite amount of time. The radiant heater will warm an area (by heating the OBJECTS) in a matter of minutes whether or not you are indoors or outdoors with or without wind. Air is not needed for the heat transfer, as it is RADIANT heat... like a campfire, lol. Measure the BTU output of a campfire and replicate that with forced air heat and then go stand next to both in a 10mph breeze. And no, the radiant heat from the campfire is not blown by wind direction, only the air circulating primarily out the top. That HEAT you feel by a fire is the radiant heat sir. That is precisely why fire feels entirely different than forced air heat, and why radiant heaters are so often used outdoors. Go through a chic-fil-a drive through or nearly any outdoor restaurant dining area and count the radiant heaters. It is a different mode of heat transfer. It feels much different and in many cases, works much better. A single point heater is often one of those places. Especially if used in an outdoor or drafty area where air movement is uncontrolled.

With a inline thermostat you cut the power completely off so when it shuts off there's no after cool off and you'll burn the nozzle off over time

@@CountryMileGarage Not saying shutting off the power to the whole unit, only cutting off the power to the on board switch , which would be no different than turning the switch off, still allowing for the after cool. ( this may require some internal wiring modification) . After looking at the wiring diagram in my manual , it is theoretically possible) I am planning on trying this on my Master unit, I will let you know if I can correct what you referred to at 2:55 in your video. I just bought mine today for a 24X30 shop . Thanks for posting by the way.

Just read the comment you talked about with Greg H below, seems like an even better idea .. that works.

@@GabrielSBarbaraS okay gotcha ... Last week I figured out how to make the thermostat work better on the unit it self. Makes a big difference compared to what it was

@@GabrielSBarbaraS yes that's what I was getting at if you just move the thermostat sensor it works 10x better

Some would say I'm pretty stupid ... thank you for watching

Not using certain words makes you smarter? Hmm I would think those who have expanded their vocabulary would be more intelligent.. shit.