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Ford 2.0L Ecoboost Engine Misfire and Coolant Consumption Issue Fix! 

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@Josh0222
@Josh0222 10 месяцев назад
This should definitely fall under a recall. It's a design flaw in the engine and not the result of typical wear and tear by the customer. The company should be held responsible. It's disgusting that aren't being held responsible but instead forcing the customer to foot the bill. I'm a Ford guy but this is just unacceptable. Definitely making me change my mind on future purchases. Great video! Thank you
@cheeseo9798
@cheeseo9798 8 месяцев назад
I think the reason it isn’t is because it lasted so long. Need to be a class action lawsuit like with the Chevy dod/afm to get them to do something/ compensate the owners.
@randyhuke3773
@randyhuke3773 8 месяцев назад
There is a class action lawsuit being launched
@shawnoandrew
@shawnoandrew 8 месяцев назад
Ford has not done a recall.
@robcraig9995
@robcraig9995 7 месяцев назад
There are class action suits for this. Google it and join one if you're having issues
@cuda4094
@cuda4094 5 месяцев назад
Why don't they send out a recall?
@karenleemclane5904
@karenleemclane5904 Год назад
Yesterday we found out our 2019 Ford Escape Titanium with 2.0L EcoBoost Engine needs to be replaced. Our Escape had the engine light come on earlier this week at 49,701 miles. We immediately got it to Rowe Ford Westbrook and it was diagnosed with several misfires, all 4 cylinders had fluid in them, and the coolant tank was almost empty. Thank goodness this is warranted and that we have an awesome dealership that has ordered a new engine. We were given a brand new Ford F150 loaner until its fixed. Thank you for showing us exactly why our engine failed. The poor design of the engine block caused the head gasket to fail. They have since redesigned this. We hope Ford has learned their lesson and stepped up to the plate with a recall. There are a lot of these engines still on the road and costing people thousands of dollars if not still under warranty.
@ranckie5055
@ranckie5055 3 месяца назад
You. like I, were lucky that you found out about that coolant intrusion issue just before your warranty expired. I have a 2017 Edge Titanium 2.0L Turbo and found out about my leak in October of 2020 at 48,051 miles, and Yankee Ford covered my new long block replacement at no cost to me and gave me a new 2020 Escape for a loaner. I learned in earlier research on that coolant issue that most of those whose warranty had expired ended up paying from $8k to $9K for new engines out of their own pockets. That clearly should have been a recall on the part of Ford. Shame on them!
@ranckie5055
@ranckie5055 Месяц назад
@karenleemclane5904 Another 300 miles on your Escape and you wouldn't have been so happy with Rowe Ford because they would have denied your claim. Your power train warranty expired at 50k.
@GuilelessDiamnd0029
@GuilelessDiamnd0029 9 месяцев назад
Whew, glad I found this video. I'm seeing early signs of this issue in my 2017 FE... How in the world does this NOT fall under a "Recall" ... Ford should cover this!
@FortniteGod-nm9ns
@FortniteGod-nm9ns 2 месяца назад
What did u end up doing im in the same situation early sighns
@4utoomchz
@4utoomchz Месяц назад
​@@FortniteGod-nm9ns We sold our 17 MKC with only 34k miles 2 years ago. Started getting misfire code. Would suggest getting rid of this pile of Ford junk asap.
@jamesplotkin4674
@jamesplotkin4674 2 года назад
Many other manufacturers use this kind of steam management, but the Eco-Boost has just too little "meat" for the gasket to seal. Ford should help these customers.
@Silent_Shadow
@Silent_Shadow 2 года назад
As a Ford technician well over half the Escapes, Fusions, and Edges I do long block and short blocks with 2.0 and 1.5 are warranty. Ford is trying to clean it up at least that's what we are told. They screw us on the warranty time. So the customer isn't the only one suffering because of these engines.
@cherylpatenode9009
@cherylpatenode9009 Год назад
@@Silent_Shadow So they aren't helping their customers at all with this issue?
@ullessc2450
@ullessc2450 Год назад
@@Silent_Shadow My 2016 Ford Edge has a crack in cylinder one. Technician said need a new engine and Ford didn't help at all. Still runs so tomorrow I will trade in for something better than Ford.
@karenwhitley7211
@karenwhitley7211 Год назад
@@Silent_Shadow I agree. Did warrant claims for over 20 yrs. You techs have taken it in the shorts.
@JasPlun
@JasPlun Год назад
Had Ford stood behind our Fusion we would probably be driving it today and buying future Fords, but they did not so now we drive Toyota and will be buying Toyotas going forward so what is better Ford eating the cost for a bad design and keeping a customer or making the customer eat their mistake and losing future sales? Too bad Ford Toyota loves you:P
@michaelholden6096
@michaelholden6096 2 года назад
You scared me a bit. I have a 2 liter '15 escape 216,769 miles still runs good but i think it needs the intake cleaned like you showed. Thanks for all the great info.
@Barnehy1
@Barnehy1 2 года назад
Thank you Brian, I always look forward to your videos. Being a tech myself, when ever I have a Ford in my stall, its nice to know that I have a solid source for good Ford info.
@troyfordguy1345
@troyfordguy1345 2 года назад
Thanks for showing us the difference between the old and revised blocks! I have a 2018 with 62k and so far it hasn’t went out on me… YET. But it will so it’s nice to know what to look for in the replacement engines.
@michaelcrossley4716
@michaelcrossley4716 Год назад
Mine went around 103k. Good luck!
@oakharpy4679
@oakharpy4679 Год назад
Trade it before it happens is an option
@Melanielanterman
@Melanielanterman Год назад
@@michaelcrossley4716 mine went at 62K ugh!
@JCSIspired
@JCSIspired 6 месяцев назад
Mine went out at 32k!!
@nofuksgiven8779
@nofuksgiven8779 5 месяцев назад
Mike just went out at 58k
@1medicbw
@1medicbw 2 года назад
Thanks for this video Brian! I have a 2017 Escape 2.0l with 30,000 miles. Owned since new. Oil changes every 4k-5k miles and tranny dump-n-fills every 15k miles. I was hoping to keep it for a long time. I'm selling this sucker and not waiting for it to fail outside of warranty time.
@michaelchan8915
@michaelchan8915 2 года назад
I've been busy replacing engines at my workplace. After I finish this Transit 3.7L V6 engine replacement, I've got my third 2.0L to replace this month.
@LiterallyJesusChrist
@LiterallyJesusChrist Год назад
2014 Fusion 2.0 ecoboost: noticed burning coolant smell and running slightly hot. Discovered coolant level was 1.5” below max. Then noticed some white smoke smells of coolant in exhaust when starting cold. Oil smells a little more gassy than I’ve ever noticed, but no signs of coolant in oil, no sign of oil in coolant. What can cause this? What can I do to confirm what the issue is? Is it safe to drive if I keep levels topped off? 143k miles.
@johnteeple8454
@johnteeple8454 2 года назад
thanks so much also showing how they fixed this issue in 2020 with getting rid of the slit between cylinders.... everyone is screaming how bad the eco boost engine is (and the old design is) but no one is saying it was fixed in 2020
@jormungandr9840
@jormungandr9840 2 года назад
It's one after another in my shop, there are 3 of us just doing various engine replacements right now. It really sucks for the cust because it's taking a while for the engines to arrive.
@GBDogg504
@GBDogg504 Год назад
I'm happy that I have a 2015 Fusion Titanium 2.0 Ecoboost (since late 2018). The 2017 model I looked at was just too much money, so I bought a 2015. Good thing I didn't buy a 2017 one, seriously. At 8 yrs old my Fusion currently only has 47k miles and is in excellent condition overall. So far I'm happy with it.
@brianbarclay4316
@brianbarclay4316 2 года назад
Issues like this should be covered regardless of miles/age! It’s obviously a design flaw, why should the customer have to pay for Ford’s poor engineering. I’m actually a Ford guy but this type of thing really gets me pissed!
@exil3dlivecom
@exil3dlivecom Год назад
I dumped Ford. I still have my beloved edge in my garage that gulps coolant. Ford told me to pound sand since it's out of warranty. Totally wrong. I'm a toyota gut now. All my toyota friends always told me my engine would blow one day. It did!
@twinbadger1
@twinbadger1 Год назад
What does the dealer charge to replace the engine?
@MrMrjohnson85
@MrMrjohnson85 Год назад
7,000 for a new engine in the escape is what a dealer wants. Just got a quote for a new engine for a 2017 escape
@thomasbabcock5174
@thomasbabcock5174 2 года назад
Great info Brian..Thanks for your expertise..much appreciate your hard work man.
@R.E.jay1257
@R.E.jay1257 Год назад
For a second there, I thought you filmed this video yesterday, that is my exact car with the exact mileage and the exact same problem cylinder number three ugh! It is at the local Ford dealer right now. Getting a new engine put in it covered by warranty thank goodness, at least now I know the problem will be fixed, thanks for your very informative video. You helped to put my mind at ease. Thank you.
@jasonwillen4468
@jasonwillen4468 2 года назад
Great topic. This is a very true issue for all the manufacturers. We get calls on the dps6 daily. Tried the dorman control moduels. That is so true. You will definitely put 2 to 3 of them on before you get a good one. Recently been buying good used. The supply chain issues are definitely hurting the whole automotive repair industry and the quality control of aftermarket parts is lacking.
@Pdraver333
@Pdraver333 2 года назад
I got my 2017 Escape in June of 2016 and just hit 22,000 miles. Being 72 and retired, it could outlast me anyway. If not, I live in Chicago so I might look you up!
@mikeyo1990
@mikeyo1990 Год назад
How does ford not cover this, it’s criminal
@repeater95
@repeater95 26 дней назад
No, its Ford
@josephmorrone2660
@josephmorrone2660 2 года назад
Always waiting to see what you have to say about the next issue ! Well Done 👍
@chuckmontgomery3855
@chuckmontgomery3855 2 года назад
It not necessarily the engineering. I was a master tech at Lincoln Mercury in the seventies and some genius Ford accountant/ cost cutter decide the drilled hole in the connecting rod on the 2.0 L engine could be eliminated saving a manufacturing operation and a few pennies per engine. Unfortunately that hole lined up with the crank journal oil hole and lubricated the cylinder/ piston skirt on every revolution. I lost count of how many scored piston skirts I saw. I had a pile of them after warranty repairs with " DRILLED" replacement rods and pistons.
@jeffone2nv
@jeffone2nv 2 года назад
The expert solves another headache!! Awesome job bruh
@junehhan
@junehhan 2 года назад
These continuing quality control problems is why this life long Ford customer bought a new Lexus GX. I miss the days when some of my old Fords would easily hit 150k miles before its first proglem would surface.
@judeh101
@judeh101 2 года назад
I recently diagnosed a 1.5L EcoBoost and found cylinder #1 with coolant intrusion (it leaked so bad to the point where the spark plug ceramic cracked in half and turned dark orange) . I would agree with you that the majority are #2 and 3 coolant intrusion. You can usually see a mark on the block or head gasket itself.
@Bills96TA
@Bills96TA 2 года назад
Well that sucks, I thought the 1.5l 3cyl was the one with few issues like this.
@judeh101
@judeh101 2 года назад
@@Bills96TA sorry, I was talking about the 1.5L EB 4 cylinder. I had to replace a 1.5L EB 3 cyl as well, but because the oil pump belt broke internally, the engine seized on the customer.
@xomox2012
@xomox2012 Год назад
@@Bills96TA There are 2 different 1.5Ls that Ford has out. Hopefully the newer one 'Dragon' won't have this specific issue.
@anthonyfrontiera4876
@anthonyfrontiera4876 8 месяцев назад
Glad they fixed this, I bought a 2022 Ford Maverick with the 2.0 turbo motor!
@scrambler69-xk3kv
@scrambler69-xk3kv 2 месяца назад
I looked at them, but I need something that I can haul stuff with, and that sandbox is to damn small. Worthless vehicle. If four doors are more important, then just buy an SUV.
@anthonyfrontiera4876
@anthonyfrontiera4876 2 месяца назад
​@@scrambler69-xk3kv I had a 2019 full size Ram pickup truck before this Maverick. For me, I don't pull or haul anything other than some mulch or a power washer. This little truck works great for me. I get your point though👍
@bill6435
@bill6435 2 года назад
Reading the TSB you showed only list the Edge up to year 2018. Do you know, did the 2019 Edge go to the new thick wall design? Really appreciate all your videos and information you put out on this, I forward to all my friends that have these engines.
@chronicanimosity1139
@chronicanimosity1139 Год назад
Thank you for the info, I’m not a mechanic but I’m trying to learn how to do this myself. Know it’s not the best thing to do but it’s my only option currently my warranty ran out a month b4 the transmission went and I had it fixed for 6grand then this happened and it crushed me after spending that much on repairs. I do not have enough money to fix the car in fact I still owe on it, and it’s annoying, I’m paying thousands for a car that’s not valued more then a grand. I can’t work full time or maintain a job without a car. It has kept me up at night for almost a year now. God Bless you for your generosity!
@hanstickets
@hanstickets 2 года назад
I bought 2017 edge with 80.000 miles, at 83.000 miles the check engine light come on, and the coolant level was below minimum. The dealer scan it and found misfire in cylinder #3; coolant intrusion. Thank God I took an extended warranty (3 year’s). Right now they are installing the new long block on it.
@whiteyshark5826
@whiteyshark5826 3 месяца назад
Just got my 2018 Escape back from the dealer with a J2GZ 6006 E replacement engine. Car had 53000 miles on it. Thank goodness for that extended warranty!
@ranckie5055
@ranckie5055 3 месяца назад
Thank you for an excellent explanation of what the cause of the problem was and how Ford fixed it. I also had that intrusion issue but caught it early enough that Ford had to cover the cost, but I always wondered until now what the cause of the failure was, and how it was fixed, and your video explains it well. I'm guessing that the new engine shown in this video is the one that they put into my 2017 Edge. Thanks, as always, for a great video.
@jerrystone9093
@jerrystone9093 3 месяца назад
@@ranckie5055 I wouldn't count on it. When they replaced the engine on my '17 Escape, I asked the technician if Ford actually fixed the problem or do they just hope it doesn't happen again before the warranty expires? He just smiled and said "We hope so".
@mrs3boys
@mrs3boys 2 года назад
Thank you for sharing this information. My wife's 2018 Ford Escape 2.0, 37,000 plus miles is doing fine but I plan on trading this in 2023. She wants another Ford Escape 2.0. Thanks
@tunafish3216
@tunafish3216 2 года назад
Sounds like a Class Action Lawsuit to me.
@exil3dlivecom
@exil3dlivecom Год назад
I sent my papers to a firm but there's not enough people to push it further I think.
@chevytech7306
@chevytech7306 Год назад
I'll be adding this
@danmyers9372
@danmyers9372 Год назад
200%
@jaredpresser4460
@jaredpresser4460 Год назад
Looking into this now too!!! Bullshit!!!
@HerrmanCanAmXRC
@HerrmanCanAmXRC Год назад
I had to buy a new longblock for my sons car with 71,000 miles.
@phin12710
@phin12710 2 года назад
I have a 2017 Escape SE with a 1.5 liter Ecoboost. So far no issues with the engine. It has 28,000 miles and is regularly maintained.
@tonyallen4265
@tonyallen4265 Год назад
Mine went bad at 75,000 miles.
@joeward117
@joeward117 Год назад
My 2018 Ford Escape with a 1.5 liter went out after 50,000 miles. On 6/16/23 Ford put in a new engine. Ford gave me 3 days of reduced rental fee but the new engine didn’t show up for 5 days so I had to pay for a total of 5 rental days at 30 dollars a day. Ford rep said that they may be paying for these additional days so hang on to your receipts for a possible Ford reimbursement. Ford did the right thing.
@DonnerPassWhisky
@DonnerPassWhisky 2 года назад
Is this an issue with the 4 cylinder blocks in the Ranger Pickups? Thanks for the great information
@the308capital
@the308capital 2 года назад
@Helicopter Dad! The ranger has the cross drilled block, not the problematic slit block. www.therangerstation.com/ranger-tech/ford-ranger-2-3l-ecoboost-introduction/
@dogisgodspelledbackwards5263
@dogisgodspelledbackwards5263 2 года назад
@@the308capital Thank you for this link!
@DonnerPassWhisky
@DonnerPassWhisky 2 года назад
@@the308capital Thank you
@SNAVE329
@SNAVE329 3 месяца назад
I watched your videos on the maintenance and issues with 2013 Escape's 1.6L motors and 6 speed transmissions. I bought my FWD 2013 Escape new. I currently have 97000 miles on it and never really had any issues until recently with the transmission making a noise on hills after 2 second or third gear [might be the transfer clutch] and had no warning lights. I had the transmission serviced unfortunately for the first time [i was under the impression that it could not be serviced] at a local FORD dealer in hopes that it would fix the issue. They performed the service and also found that it needed a low fuel flow sensor after a computer scan. $850 dollars later I still have the noise. Yesterday I added 12 ounces of Lucas transmission fix, and the noise is better but haven't tried starting out on any hills yet. I have also been noticing that the coolant level seems to go down over time [weeks/months] and I add coolant to keep it filled. This is our second car now and it only gets driven on a couple of 20-mile short trips every week. I have learned a lot from your videos and probably could have done the transmission service myself. Oh well, too late now as they say. Thanks for providing me and others with all of this valuable information regarding this model year Escape. My question is should I just keep the Escape until it has some major failure to the motor or transmission or sell it now while it is still running and can get some value for it???????? Please advise and I value your opinion. Thanks Rich
@jerrystone9093
@jerrystone9093 3 месяца назад
It would be worth very little in trade but probably a little more than junk value.
@travismiller7982
@travismiller7982 6 месяцев назад
I have a 2018 Ford Fusion 2.0L ecoboost with a misfire in cylinder 2 & 3 with only 27.5k miles that is less than 6k a year and dealing with this issue.dealership only offered a 3 year - 30k mile warranty..replaced spark plugs and coil in cylinder 2 and played around with cylinder 3 to see if it was any other cylinder but problem stayed with cylinder 2 and 3 after all the tests...this should be Fords problem not mine....should count towards the lemon law
@joemoach832
@joemoach832 2 года назад
As we speak the 2.0 eco boost on my 2017 Edge is being replaced with only 45k miles on it. Luckily it is being covered by warranty. I hope the new long block being installed is the improved design.
@SwingArmCity
@SwingArmCity 2 года назад
It won't, ford is putting the same garbage right back on
@jasonbrushett2005
@jasonbrushett2005 2 года назад
@@SwingArmCity wrong,there is a revised long block.Please watch the video to the end
@douglasher979
@douglasher979 Год назад
I've contacted the dealership an spoke with my parts rep as well as the service manager and according to them the service engine for 2017 is the same engine it has always been they do not show a revised or updated part number. This is my concern. I saw the end and heard the updated engine but do you have to buy a service engine for the newer model vehicle and will it go right in or are other parts/ changes needed to make it work?@@jasonbrushett2005
@jamram9924
@jamram9924 2 года назад
These turbo engines are great at generating power since there are no V6s due to emission mandates. However, turbos and turbo chargers add more stress in these smaller engines. I avoid turbocharged or supercharged engines, that extra power is not worth the headaches or the cost of ownership.
@brandonhooker4498
@brandonhooker4498 2 года назад
There are still V6 engines…the 2.7L, 3.0L, 3.3L, 3.5L & 3.7L are still used.
@ChevyConQueso
@ChevyConQueso 2 года назад
The brighter the bulb burns, the shorter it lives. You can use CGI blocks, forged cranks, moly rings, and more, but we're at the point where we're asking too much from these little engines. Dial all of them back to sub 200 hp and they'll all live much longer.
@s99614
@s99614 2 года назад
Can I disable the turbo?
@brandonhooker4498
@brandonhooker4498 2 года назад
@@s99614 no, it’s part of the exhaust/intake system. Even if you could just turn it off, your car would lose most of its power.
@shalashaskaa8
@shalashaskaa8 Год назад
Toyota never slapped a turbo in and said mandate fixed! 😂
@MarcMonson
@MarcMonson 2 года назад
good to see they are finally updating the 2.3 to basically be brand new. would have been interesting to see/hear that running with the misfire and or white smoke. do the 2.3's blow up from too much coolant getting in the bore and hydrolock which then bends a rod/windows the block?
@brianfitzgerald7171
@brianfitzgerald7171 2 года назад
I have a 2017 2.0 liter with 70k miles no issue - yet !! I watch coolant level carefully. Any idea what's the percentage of failure rate on these? Are they all doomed? I really like the car and don't really want to sell it
@JB-mf9sq
@JB-mf9sq Год назад
I have 137,000 on mine and no issues so far.
@aintright3889
@aintright3889 Год назад
Great illustration. Has Low compression been an issue with these motors? And what should the compression in psi be across all cylinders? Mines a "15" 2.0 with 109K on the clock. Thanks guys 👍👍👍
@sportsmom64
@sportsmom64 Месяц назад
great video after multiple searches. I have a 2018 ford escape titianium with barely 61K and the engine light went on a few weeks ago. Just did local driving but the last few months I have been running the car hard almost 100 miles per day up in the mountains of pa. My son noticed the coolant dropped. He's been working on cars a few years and put 2 and 2 together. I have an appointment next week at FOrd and am dreading the thought that I will have to eat a 4-8K bill. I have had 5 Fords my entire life and will not likely purchase another. I will definitely join one of the class action lawsuits pending .
@natet7323
@natet7323 2 года назад
My 2017 Lincoln MKC had the same issue. It was water intrusion into cylinder 2. It had around 55,00 miles when it started to have symptoms. It received a new engine already.
@robertsmudrick974
@robertsmudrick974 Год назад
What did that cost? I have 2017 MKc
@x3sur13x
@x3sur13x Год назад
How much was the total repair?
@natet7323
@natet7323 Год назад
It was under warranty and cost me nothing. The total bill was nearly $8,000 total.
@alanboggs2315
@alanboggs2315 Год назад
I'm thinking of buying a 2015 fushion at the auction on tuesday. Glad to know it has the older block design.
@toddpeters9007
@toddpeters9007 2 года назад
Good video , I see, I've seen this in tractors and small engines as a dealer a few years ago, thin material actually between cylinders and pushrod gally always blew out and lack of head bolts in that area of coarse ,.....
@7orrest7erguson
@7orrest7erguson Год назад
Going through this exact issue right now. 7 year old car that cost 40 grand, Now They want to replace the motor, NEVER EVER AGAIN will I buy another FORD ......
@bryanedwards9464
@bryanedwards9464 8 месяцев назад
Happened to me too
@paulshepherd9528
@paulshepherd9528 5 месяцев назад
This "design flaw' goes back to at least 2014, as I am watching a video right now showing it in the 1.6 4 cyl. This is really unbelievable... and the Ford dealer sold this to us, 10 years old, knowing this issue existed and said nothing. Now it is swallowing coolant like crazy.
@michaelcrossley4716
@michaelcrossley4716 Год назад
This is going on with mine. Number 3 cylinder. Thanks for the video.
@mulenine9867
@mulenine9867 2 года назад
So I just purchased my lease 2019 escape titanium . Had no choice. But I do love the car. Is this inevitable? And is there anything I can do before it happens. Thanks for the great videos
@BlackBuzzzard
@BlackBuzzzard 2 года назад
U keep on scaring the crap out of me regarding boosted gas engines!
@Acelachaser1965
@Acelachaser1965 2 года назад
The more I watch this channel, the more I like my simple 1948/52 Ford tractors with the flatheads! 😀
@David_Berkowitz
@David_Berkowitz 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for this video, this is exactly what I have going on, every thing you said to a T is exactly what I observed. Thanks greatly for your information!!!
@stevenloretero9079
@stevenloretero9079 2 года назад
My 2017 2.0 Escape with about 68,000 miles had an intrusion on cylinder 4. It was replaced with a long block and covered by extended warranty.
@michaelschwenk9743
@michaelschwenk9743 2 года назад
Can I ask what the cost was to change to the new engine?
@stevenloretero9079
@stevenloretero9079 2 года назад
@@michaelschwenk9743 I didn't pay anything as it was covered by the extended warranty. My service advisor said it would have been around $6500.
@AAG981
@AAG981 Год назад
How is the new engine holding up?
@stevenloretero9079
@stevenloretero9079 Год назад
@@AAG981 No issues, so far. I hope you didn’t jinx it. Lol.
@AAG981
@AAG981 Год назад
@@stevenloretero9079 someone jinxed mine its with ford now
@davidtennien39
@davidtennien39 2 года назад
First off I want to thank you for all you do for us Ford owners. I currently just sold my 2020 Escape for 22 Ford Bronco Sport Badlands with the 2.0. Is the newer block Incorporated in the Bronco Sport Badlands?
@dustyburner
@dustyburner 2 года назад
Thanks for a great explanation of this issue and showing the new block design. I've seen one RU-vidr suggest that the 2.0L engines that have the coolant intrusion issue were the one assembled in Cleveland, while the Valencia engines seem to be fine. What are your thought on that?
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 2 года назад
Nope they all have the issue.
@ppal19812
@ppal19812 2 года назад
If they all have the issue.. why is the 2017+ only mentioned here, when in a previous video and now here you’re saying they all do. I have a 2016 Valencia 2.0, thought I was good now I see this comment… hmm 🤔 😢
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 2 года назад
I am speaking of the different build plants, not specific models and engines.
@ppal19812
@ppal19812 2 года назад
@@FordTechMakuloco Sorry.. just to confirm then I should be ok, contrary to your last video re: the 2.0 and this one pre-2017… being I have a 2016?
@matt20837
@matt20837 2 года назад
Any chance you could elaborate on what all engines are affected? I see the years the 2.0s were affected in this video. You’ve mentioned the 1.5l on here. Were all the 1.6s the old design, or did certain years of that motor have the issue? Is the 2.3 part of this in the Mustang, Ranger, Explorer, some Lincoln models?
@danmar9082
@danmar9082 Год назад
I have escape model from 2017 but the production date on the plate is 04/2016. Will this also apply to me? because the video says 2017-2019 but this includes the production date or model year?
@chadketsdever1950
@chadketsdever1950 2 года назад
Mine was cylinder 1 and what I found from TSB was the blocks or engines made in Spain had the most issues
@CollegeRecruitsNW
@CollegeRecruitsNW 2 года назад
What sucks is Ford didn't recall of these motors once the flaw was determined. Ford should make it right for all of these owners, or at least meet them halfway, or provide the engine custy pays for the labor.
@blue.5058
@blue.5058 2 года назад
Ford has a reputation of not recalling a damn thing unless people are killed (re; Pinto). And even then they’ll rather go through the lawsuits as their been-counters determined that dealing with lawsuits from fatalities was more cost-effective than the cost of recalls. Dodge is no better- they outright screwed owners of RAM 1500s with the 4.7 OHC motor (which I owned at one point) which was a magnet for head gasket and electrolysis issues resulting in coolant intrusion and premature engine death. They (Daimler-Chrysler at the time) let the lawsuit drag out until Cerberus (the hedge fund group that bought out Chrysler), which resulted in all the class action lawsuits going poof. As a result, everyone with a bum engine was stuck with no recourse. I’ll keep my Crown Victoria Police Interceptor over any new Dodge or Ford product.
@ChevyConQueso
@ChevyConQueso 2 года назад
@@blue.5058 Lifelong Ford guy who has a love and hate relationship with Ford. I daily drive a 2011 Grand Marquis. Never get rid of the Panther. You won't find a new car that checks the boxes that these cars do. The rest of my Fords are all old, mostly 80s with V8s. I'm really sickened at what every manufacturer is putting out these days. They all have a slew of problems caused by .gov standards and stop gap measures.
@Paulop81
@Paulop81 3 дня назад
No more ford guys!!! Unfortunately, I’ll stick with Japanese cars from now on.
@jamesg9936
@jamesg9936 2 года назад
Was there a warranty extension or a recall on this? I know it is a TSB but its literally screwing people over for a huge design flaw
@exil3dlivecom
@exil3dlivecom Год назад
Mines failed. Called corporate. They told me to bug off. Literally. So now I made it my life mission to turn away potential new car buyers from not even looking at Fords direction. So far I turned away 3 people with my 2015 ecoboost flaw.
@lovetheconstitution2637
@lovetheconstitution2637 2 года назад
Brian do you change the cats when changing an engine that consumed antifreeze and oil?
@robinyhr
@robinyhr 2 года назад
I’m happier now that I bought a 2.5 Escape, even though I would have liked more features available with this powertrain.
@ralfwalter3923
@ralfwalter3923 5 месяцев назад
This just stung us at 85K miles. Covered under extended warranty, and dealership has been awesome to do all the right things.
@wayneahl5494
@wayneahl5494 2 года назад
Brian, would it be a benefit to proactively change the head gasket and inspect for the 2.0L Ecoboosts that aren't leaking yet? My daughter's 2015 Edge has 80,000 miles...thanks
@bartleyives1355
@bartleyives1355 9 месяцев назад
The 2015 Edge does not have this issue.
@TheGOF
@TheGOF 2 года назад
Our 2017 2.0 Escape failed 4 weeks ago @ 52K miles. It had a week left on the original power train warranty. Coolant in cylinder 4. Had a misfire on 4 at 40K, but only once. No issue found then. No white smoke. The failure was an instantaneous dead misfire while on the highway doing 70 mph. No light at low throttle, but light would illuminate with any medium acceleration. Ultimately it would only do 50 mph as I limped it back to the dealer. Ford replaced engine and it’s great now.
@jamesmedina2062
@jamesmedina2062 2 года назад
great for a while at least huh?
@blownfuse26
@blownfuse26 2 года назад
My 2014 Focus ST had about 187k miles when it suddenly started losing coolant summer of 2020. I had to fill it almost completely every other day. If I had known what the issue was for sure & that there was a definite fix, I would have loved to keep it. My main concern was paying for a new engine to just have it happen again. I'm fairly sure the dealership would've just put the exact same model as the one that went bad, & I'd have the same problem in the future. So I went from a car I loved that was paid off, to a new one. Settled for a simple naturally aspirated 6 cylinder in hopes of keeping any issues to minimal headaches.
@Rvp5150
@Rvp5150 2 года назад
The focus st and rs had head gasket issues. You were smart to get rid of it.
@maciekapocaliptic
@maciekapocaliptic 2 года назад
@@Rvp5150 RS had gasket problems. With the ST-s, only modded ones going bad. Stay stock and all will be fine. But find a stock ST might be tricky.
@dogewisdom9921
@dogewisdom9921 2 года назад
ST has the closed deck. You must have been driving it hard in the morning before everything warmed up .
@RyanEmeryLovesCars
@RyanEmeryLovesCars 2 месяца назад
Someone please answer this question I have - the 2.0 in our '18 MKC failed at 37K miles due to coolant intrusion, the dealer replaced the engine in MAY 2023 (assembled in March 2023), and this July, the REPLACEMENT ENGINE ALSO failed from coolant intrusion after ONLY 4,000 miles. The second replacement engine in it right now was manufactured this April and has the SAME exact block part number (J2GE 6006 AC) as the failed first replacement engine at 4,000 miles. The block part number on the original engine (assembled in December 2017) has the block part number HV 206 AA. Has Ford not solved the coolant intrusion problem despite "supposedly" redesigning the block starting around the 2020-ish model year?
@jamesnewhall
@jamesnewhall 6 месяцев назад
How do you confirm that an Edge has the "improved" engine and not the faulty one? I've seen plenty of people online state that their 2020 Edge engine failed, even though I i keep hearing that the issue was "fixed" for the 2020 Edge.
@TonyCruz-k1l
@TonyCruz-k1l Год назад
Holy cow, today, May 12, 2023, I was just informed by Ford that my 2017 Ford Escape 2.0L, ecoboost needs a new engine. Thanfully, I have the Ford ESP Premium and all I have to pay is a low deductible. I had no clue this was a problem with these vehicles.
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco Год назад
Smart man!
@RogerWilco486
@RogerWilco486 2 года назад
My 2017 Fusion had it's EcoBoost 2.0 replaced with only 38K in Sept 2019 for this issue and fortunately they used the improved design long block.
@mel577
@mel577 Год назад
Thank you for such an excellent video, Brian. I was hoping to be able to DM through here but I'm not able to. I wanted to ask you, what is the quoted total price for this job with parts included? And are you near northern New Jersey? Also, how long does this job take (rental estimates)?
@OldBear7250
@OldBear7250 Месяц назад
I've been a long time Ford guy and have bought many Ford trucks and cars over the years, but just the other day my wife's 2015 Edge blew the head gasket and we were told they have to replace the long block, after dealing with my last F-150 with the 5.4 Triton 3v and timing issues I'm done with Ford !
@TheScandoman
@TheScandoman 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for that very important piece of information!
@creigmacc
@creigmacc 2 года назад
I use to buy FordMoCo products. I have this unreasonable expectation that at 100K miles all I should need to buy is oil. Not a ($4500?) long block.
@dlewis9760
@dlewis9760 2 года назад
Just think how much the environment was saved by running this engine (until the engine was shot). That extra .1 or .2 MPG is well worth it.
@standhd
@standhd 2 года назад
What type of oil do you run?
@ChevyConQueso
@ChevyConQueso 2 года назад
@@dlewis9760 Bingo. All of this is due to government screwing with good things again. Name me one problem they ever solved that wasn't their own making. (we could shorten that to "name me one problem they ever solved")
@danielkura7066
@danielkura7066 7 месяцев назад
I have Escape 2.0 EB model from 2017 ( now have 77000 mil) but the production date on the plate VIN is 04/2016 Will this also aply to me?
@fargenvonwitbier
@fargenvonwitbier 2 года назад
I've done 3 of these in the last month. 2.0s all in Edges. Longblocks luckily. Had a run of 1.5 shortblocks there for a while so I'll take a few longblocks lol
@LiterallyJesusChrist
@LiterallyJesusChrist Год назад
2014 Fusion 2.0 ecoboost: noticed burning coolant smell and running slightly hot. Discovered coolant level was 1.5” below max. Then noticed some white smoke smells of coolant in exhaust when starting cold. Oil smells a little more gassy than I’ve ever noticed, but no signs of coolant in oil, no sign of oil in coolant. What can cause this? What can I do to confirm what the issue is? Is it safe to drive if I keep levels topped off? 143k miles.
@fargenvonwitbier
@fargenvonwitbier Год назад
@@LiterallyJesusChrist you need to. Verify what cylinder(s) are/is misfiring and pressurize the cooling system and check to see if coolant is leaking into that cylinder.
@LiterallyJesusChrist
@LiterallyJesusChrist Год назад
@@fargenvonwitbier I’m not noticing any misfiring. Would testing for exhaust fumes in coolant reservoir help?
@fargenvonwitbier
@fargenvonwitbier Год назад
@@LiterallyJesusChrist You gotta remember that these are direct injected boosted engines with low friction piston rings so, as weird as it might be to hear, that's normal. I would be willing to be if you let the car sit for longer than usual, like a day or more, it would stumble on a cold start. Is there a check engine light on? Pay close attention the next time you start it cold for even a little tremble, I'm betting you'll feel it. The coolant leaks are usually minor enough to where it will burn away when it's started up. The only time I've seen the coolant and oil mix in these cases are when the car sits outside for weeks or longer waiting for parts and the coolant runs by the piston rings into the oil pan.
@LiterallyJesusChrist
@LiterallyJesusChrist Год назад
@@fargenvonwitbier I haven’t had any check engine lights so far.
@jorgemagdaleno9085
@jorgemagdaleno9085 6 месяцев назад
This just happened to me! I’m past the 5 year warranty but only have 51k. So I’m pretty much screwed.
@nofuksgiven8779
@nofuksgiven8779 4 месяца назад
The warranty only covers the transmission not the actual engine
@frankmcdonough3351
@frankmcdonough3351 2 года назад
That is alot the old chevy vega engines design that caused coolant usage problems ( back in the 70s). No turbos back then, that is why they did not grenade sooner. History repeating itself.
@rodneymiddleton9624
@rodneymiddleton9624 2 года назад
What is the average repair cost on this engine swap? Thanks!
@wulfsbergvw3
@wulfsbergvw3 2 года назад
mine was over $6000
@michaelschwenk9743
@michaelschwenk9743 2 года назад
@@wulfsbergvw3 😲
@exil3dlivecom
@exil3dlivecom Год назад
I was quoted 7400$ in California
@rodneymiddleton9624
@rodneymiddleton9624 Год назад
@@exil3dlivecom is the car worth that cost? They should’ve fixed it for free.
@exil3dlivecom
@exil3dlivecom Год назад
@@rodneymiddleton9624 nope. I didn't do it. Not worth that repair. Total B.S for Ford doing this. I have turned 3 potential customers away from the brand and will keep scaring people with my horrible experience
@Arthurjr16
@Arthurjr16 2 года назад
Another great video did the new motor get a new purge valve I know south main auto if my memory serves me correctly had a customer who needed a new one but there indefinitely in back order but was able to get a aftermarket that actually did work because of the clip design
@antcrow7424
@antcrow7424 29 дней назад
Hello Brian, I watch your videos all the time. I have a 2008 Ford F250 & a 2016 Ford Edge. So, You know what issue's, I'm dealing with. My 2016 Edge just had the engine blow a head gasket or cracked head. Local auto repair shop wants $6K to replace engine from Jasper engine's, plus core. Unfortunately, they told me Ford has all 2.0L engine's on hold? I was wondering if I purchase an engine from 2020 to 2024 could these engine's be swapped? My Edge is a SE model. Nothing fancy, fwd only. I'm looking to purchase engine & tranny together. Just wondering if there are modules or ECM I need to purchase as well?? Keep up the great videos!! Thank you! Tony
@samiwindle7603
@samiwindle7603 Год назад
I have a 2017 ford escape eco 2.0 I have 146,xxx I haven’t had any issues other than having to replace my wiring harness , imma have to look at the date mine was made.. bc this makes me wanna trade it in!
@DieHard50LMAN
@DieHard50LMAN 2 года назад
Ford tech Makuloco, Can you please tell me of the brand new 2.3L ecoboost engine that is in the ranger has the cross drilled design to prevent a blowout? Thank you for your time
@brianfinn7644
@brianfinn7644 2 года назад
I assume 2 and 3 are wearing more because of more heat being generated inside the engine? Just wondering. Good video.
@jeffclark228
@jeffclark228 11 месяцев назад
Great video. If I’m buying a replacement engine from Ford, what P/N am I looking for to ensure I get the upgraded one. Thanks
@MrAnajones
@MrAnajones Год назад
Hello Brian, thanks for your video, viewing from Angola 🇦🇴. My ford escape is from 2013. Of I buy a new engine do you believe it will already have the leakage issue fixed?
@MrPincheloko
@MrPincheloko 2 года назад
Great video like always makuloco Very interested in the camera you using for this is that a Milwaukee?
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 2 года назад
Nope just a regular old iPhone 14 Pro.
@Korruptionen
@Korruptionen Год назад
Just had a friend with this failure. As a long time Volvo fan, I see where they pulled some of this design from Volvo, IMO. Those 2.5L 5 cylinder turbo engines suffer from this same failure. The 2.3 has thicker cylinders and is stronger even being open decked. Some have shimmed between the cylinders. The cross drilling solution is cool though.
@metatronmen2431
@metatronmen2431 Год назад
I saw a guy in a video talking about the 2.0 ecoboost, he said this engine was built in two different plants, Spain and Ohio, exact same engines but the one built in Ohio is the one with problems. Who knows if is true or what is the difference.
@methamphetamelon
@methamphetamelon Год назад
The blocks with VEP on the block tag were built in Valencia Spain, CLV is Cleveland Ohio. VEP engines have the issue too, because I have a 2015 with a VEP and intrusion in 2 cylinders.
@metatronmen2431
@metatronmen2431 Год назад
​@@methamphetamelon They upgraded the block in 2019 or 2020 I dont remember exactly.
@Bab3s01
@Bab3s01 Год назад
I have a 2014 Ford Escape that’s having this issue! Nobody could tell me what it was, just kept “fixing” and swapping stuff. Is the 2020 engine compatible with my 2014 1.6L with turbo Ford Escape?
@methamphetamelon
@methamphetamelon Год назад
This is one of the things I'd like to know. I also know that there is info suggesting it wasn't just a change from a closed deck to an open deck design, there was also a semi-open deck design used in the early 3rd gen Escapes (2013 to 2015) but it's also essentially hearsay. Either way, I have a 2015 with just over 120K miles and verified coolant intrusion in 2 cylinders, so now i am looking at options. Would love to get definitive answers.
@travismiller7982
@travismiller7982 5 месяцев назад
I made a post about this happening to me...... update: 2.0L eco boost, i had the head removed and cylinder 2 and 3 where clean as can be and blew the piston rings off cylinder 3, remind you it only had 27k miles....dealership would not do anything to help so i went to another ford dealership more respected and was able to get the new engine and seals for 4k with a core exchange of 1k so 3k. Had a buddy install it for $800 So the thing about recalls are the from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), to get a recall, we need everyone to report this issue to them
@nofuksgiven8779
@nofuksgiven8779 4 месяца назад
We need too because these people are not trying to fix the engines
@davidortiz1114
@davidortiz1114 11 месяцев назад
I own a 2017 Ford Escape Titanium Turbo and at 70,000 miles my engine light went on and after I took it to the shop to have it diagnosed it turned out to be a $8,000 repair. It turns out that the 2017 have these issues of having the head seal leak into the engine and since the block is made of aluminum it would require a complete engine replacement. Don't bother about getting it from another distributer, it has to bought by Forde at $5,000 and the rest is labor. I had originally purchased new in 2017 and it was under warranty until the 60,000 miles. It is known that this is an issue and that there is no recall on it. My wife and I are on the fence on whether to replace the engine or not, what do you think. It still looks new from the outside and the inside
@Studio23Media
@Studio23Media Год назад
My mom's 2017 Edge with the 2.0L Ecoboost is in the shop getting a new motor at 74k miles. 🙃
@nickayivor8432
@nickayivor8432 2 года назад
ACCOMPLISHED FordTechMakuloco Thank for sharing it From Nick Ayivor from London England UK 🇬🇧
@tba3900
@tba3900 2 года назад
What did ford expect, the upper cylinder pressure is flexing the bores . If you look closely at the head gasket you can see that the where the bore is moving against the head gasket.
@MikeyrFL
@MikeyrFL Год назад
We bought a used Ford Edge Titanium with an Ecoboost 2.0 engine that had 74,000 miles on the clock. About a month after purchasing the vehicle it bagan lighting up the CEL. Codes were p0316 and p0304. Our local independent shop replaced the spark plugs with iridium plugs and cleared the CEL. Since then the CEL lit up again so they also replaced the ignition coil with a Standard brand unit on cylinder 04 and cleared the CEL. We are now getting CEL lighting up and the code is p0304. The CEL lights up a few days after I clear it and then stays off for another few days. The vehicle has also experienced minor coolant consumption with no coolant on the garage floor. Yesterday I made a 2 1/2 hour trip with a 1 hour stop in the middle and the coolant level went down 1/8th on 1 inch. Should I suspect carbon buildup or are we candidates for eventual engine replacement?
@methamphetamelon
@methamphetamelon Год назад
Get it diagnosed. My bet is they'll say you've got coolant intrusion and need a new engine.
@Reatrok
@Reatrok Год назад
Go figure that I find out this is a known issue AFTER my wife purchased a 2017 Escape 2.0 Ecoboost AWD Ti.. She wasnted an Escape really badly, we got it with 60K miles, and hopefully the Lifetime powertrain warranty will cover this IF it happens in the future..
@ohmydud3
@ohmydud3 6 месяцев назад
Honda's civic 2016, 1.5 turbo engine has the same slit coolant channel, and brown head gasket issue. Misfire with missing coolant are common. New Head gasket needed.
@michaelscully8461
@michaelscully8461 Год назад
I have a 2016 Fusion 2.0 ecoboost with 107k miles, build date 8/15 that uses some (about 12oz. per 1k miles) coolant. My #3 spark plug is whiter in color compared to the other three. FORD says that this engine isn't part of the bulletin, but I think it should be. What say you, Brian?
@jfs1988
@jfs1988 2 года назад
I have a 2017 Ford Escape Titanium Ecoboost/Turbocharged 2.0 with 93,229 miles currently in the odometer. It purchased it used last November from a Ford dealership with 80,410 miles and added an extended Ford warranty. The exhaust smokes on startup, but not all the time. Usually when it isn't driven around 2 days. Not sure if its a misfire, since it doesn't have a check engine light. Could this be early signs of coolant intrusion? or could it be carbon in the cylinders? Also, is the splash shield coming loose a common problem? I feel air resistance even after replacing the bolts. Maybe the splash shield bent a little.
@jfs1988
@jfs1988 2 года назад
Confirmed. It is indeed coolant intrusion. The dealership wants me to submit maintenance records for a new engine.
@suunto61
@suunto61 2 года назад
What was the engine assembly location? VEP = Valencia Spain. Others have noted that those engines are much less likely to have this problem vs those built in the US. I have a new to me 2020 Escape 2.0L with 52Kmi when purchased 3 weeks ago. Thanks to you, just changed the PTU and the rear diff this weekend. Would love to see you discuss the 8F35 transmission oil change. Do you drop the pan and replace the filter? Or just swap the oil? Can you service the other canister filter? I have the procedure to properly fill.
@sjn7220
@sjn7220 2 года назад
Our 2.0 was made in Valencia and had to be replaced due to coolant intrusion. I think it affects all of them.
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