Ford Dealer STUNS Truck Buyers, Toyota Can't Do This! 

For a Ford anything.

For any vehicle for that matter. It's all bananas the cost of new vehicles anywhere not to mention financing costs🍌

Yes, they have lost their mind and customers.

Hillbillies gotta Hill!

Fuck yea they have......there's not a 140,000 of truck there I'd hate to see what a f 350 goes for

Facts

How 'bout I let those 2022 models sit for another year so they can depreciate, then buy one of them at half price?

@@protorhinocerator142 yep Did that in 2013 on a 2012 expedition, as the 2014s started coming in 25000 off

You mean the stearlerships

And we're almost halfway through the year. I'd LOVE to see the actual numbers of all full size Ford pickups (2 and 4 dr) sold nationwide from Jan 1 to June 30 versus what Ford WANTED them to sell. I know the numbers are making their accountants cry, LMAO...

Cool. Don’t do it. Just buy a Corolla.

​@@mycarkilledu9034 he wont buy. You have a problem with that??

In Canada we’ve been used to $50,000 pickups for a long time. My ‘09 F150 FX4 cost me $55K all in back then. What is insane now is new 1/2 ton trucks here are anywhere up to the $100k range which means a choice of either financing in mortgage like lengths or payments in the $1500 a month range. A truck will never be worth that kind of money to me.

@@squangan they began turning trucks in the more luxury vehicles, and younger Generations are glorifying them for different reasons. Here in America we have had some models that are over 50,000. I spent Ali refuse to buy it. I will never pay that much money for a pickup truck. I recently looked at a 2013 Dodge Ram 1500, and they were asking almost 25,000 with it at 90,000 miles. After everything was said and done it comes out to nearly $30,000 for a 10 year old truck with nearly 100,000 miles on it. That is insane

@@jmmywyf4lyf Here is the definition of insane. A local dealer here is advertising a 2018 Dodge 3500 diesel dually with 250,000 km (150,000 miles) on it. The truck has severe body damage as it looks like a big tree may have fallen across the cab and box.. It is being advertised at $56,000 plus taxes and fees and the body damage is the buyers responsibility to repair. It is completely beyond belief that a dealer can even consider that kind of money for a 5 year old half ruined truck.

It's been exposed! It's every company's new business model...to drive fear with low inventories, gouge as long as possible and prevent prices from falling. Overpricing might make people walk away but just long enough to overpay somewhere else. Consumers keep justifying themselves to spend money in this market. The sooner they stop spending, the sooner we'll go back to competitive pricing. This isn't possible so normal pre-covid pricing wont return. There are too many people willing to pay more than you to remedy their first world problems. Even a 10% off MSRP ad will get suckers to buy bc they believe it's a discount and have FOMO. Aside from that consumer problem, CEOs will also be inventing new ways to keep the market propped up, even raise prices, as long as they can, until you don't have a choice.

100% Spot on.

Yeah and not buy their shit anymore because the 100k + truck they charged us for won't last 100k miles before it needs to go to the shop honestly customizing is a great idea if you know what needs to be replaced You really should do so because the production line won't

He makes four minutes of video and the other four minutes he just walks around making promises of what's going to be in that other four minutes.

How about you get a job

Then don’t buy a new truck.

​@@mycarkilledu9034 He's not going to. Same as a bunch of other people. Why is that a problem for you?

The ecoboost is a solid performer. Not decided hat whether they will outlast a V8, small higher strung engine works hard to get the power. If you haven’t been in one…get a test drive. Those little turbo engines are violent!

@@permagrin8742 I'll take the longevity of the the proven V8 especially when it comes to towing over a long period of time.

​@@mycarkilledu9034 no kidding

Yes sir Mr josh, they make hipster trucks a bunch of electrical add on Crap and gimmick junk, roll on a job site or farm, or whatever you do for a living, and green hair city boy truck falls apart. Build a working man's or woman's truck and customers will line up to buy them.

It's already been produced since last year, it's called the Maverick. My videos show this truck in hybrid and turbo AWD versions.

​​@@fordmaverickmaniacthat is not a truck is a CUV they superglued a short bed to

@gearshiv The Mav bed is only 6" shorter than the new Ranger. Payload is not much less but the price is a lot less. Whenever I need more "bed", I will use a utility trailer, high rack, or a hitch mounted cargo carrier. My Maverick turbo AWD with 250hp, 4k tow and lux upgrades like heated seats only cost msrp $30,710.

@@fordmaverickmaniac You pretty much just described my old crown Vic

In my crazy state, a 30-year-old house withOUT a garage, a cracked driveway, a backyard that offers ZERO privacy for even a dog, a popcorn ceiling from the 1970s, ancient slider bar thermostat and total of UNDER 950 sq ft of living space is a whopping $145-185,000. I cannot afford a house at those prices. I know I will already have to spend way over $10K in repairs to make it comfortable. Remember, you get NO garage either. The cheapest one with any garage is a wallet-bursting $181,000! In Texas, it can hit 110 in August and that's very hard on your car's paint. It will eventually peel off if the brand doesn't have very high quality paint. Oh, and it does expose your car to theft and burglary. I have only one car and cannot afford to lose it.

I completely understand. When I bought my house a little over 30 years ago it still had an outhouse (in the city) and no indoor bathroom. The house was built in the 1920's and was only about 800 square feet. Gravel driveway, no garage and I ended up gutting it and putting about $30,000 into it to make it livable.

Exactly!!!!

Enjoy buying 5-10 year old trucks.

​@@mycarkilledu9034 thank you i will. Used is a good option if you research correctly

Heavy duty trucks for towing are more than that -- but yes, I thought paying 43k for my Tacoma 4x4 Off Road trim was high even if 800/month payment is less than 10% of monthly take home. However, I'm driving my taco until the wheels fall off--so hopefully 20 yrs.

That's why I'm hanging on to my 2004 FX4. Even with the garbage engine it's better to keep this one going than dish out $20,000 for a 10 yr old vehicle or $35,000 for a 5 yr old. (that's cdn. byw).

Yeah, I'm trying to find a tow vehicle. Nothing new, around 100k miles. Used vehicles, 5+ years old are pulling 5-10k under the original msrp. Its nuts.

They want you to pay an additional 20-40k over what the truck is worth nowadays for a bunch of BS options working men have no use for.

@@InternetUser._ Yeah like a 20" touch screen that you have to tap to go into 2 sub menus and tap 12x to turn the radio down or the heater up.

My 1994 Toyota truck would be pretty expensive to replace too. But I just keep maintaining it and driving it. I wouldn't trade it for a brand new truck if it were offered.

if you had 100 rental properties youd probably buy that truck it aint made for you 🤦

And you got a truck in the next class up equal to the Ranger

As much as I think manufacturers like Ford and Dodge are garbage these days, I would hate for them to go because we all know competition is only a good thing for consumers.

They are. The American mindset of having to show off "wealth" and keeping up with the Joneses mind as well be a drug.

The Japanese are a superior car building race. American greed has destroyed car liability and practicality.

I will only buy Japanese vehicles. American companies are all criminals ✌️

It helps not to struggle when you don’t make a real popular vehicle

Exactly, Toyota is creating a shortage to artificially inflate prices. The Toyota fanboys are their suckered. BTW, I drive a Toyota, but I'm not infatuated with them enough to get screwed.

​@@carbonking53same. I shopped Toyota and couldn't find one at all or couldn't find one at a decent price. I ended up buying a 2023 Frontier.

If you got the money you should be able to dictate terms. I'm ruthless with dealers. My goal is to get the car for free, and I base success on how close I can come to that. I never go in with the attitude of "giving the dealer a fair profit". Screw that. The last time I bought my wife a new car I told him what I was willing to pay. He laughed at me. He said, "We have more in this car than that amount." I immediately asked him if he was going to value my trade-in for how much I put in it. No? Then why should I give a CRAP about how much you have in this car? It was a used Toyota Highlander with low miles. They wanted $22K. I told them I would pay $15K and that's after tax, tags, dealer prep and all that. He just kept laughing at me. Eventually he made the fatal mistake of saying, "There's no way my floor manager would EVER agree to that price." I told him, "You already got my contact info. If you can talk him down to $15K give me a call." And then I left the confused Pikachu face goofball there. I got home and my wife said, "You bought it? Where's my car?" I said, "No I'm still haggling. I think he'll come down." She said, "YOU'RE GOING TO SCREW AROUND LIKE THIS AND SOMEONE ELSE WILL GET MY CAR!" I said, "That exact outburst is why I didn't bring you there. Never let them know you already fell in love with the car. The price just went back up." (three days later) Dealer: "Hi. Um... you still want that care?" Me: "I dunno. I was going to go shopping somewhere else this weekend..." I got it for $15,008 tax tag and everything. I consider that a win. My wife all of a sudden thought I was a complete genius. She was right of course.

My favorite is when the salesperson plays the sob story of "we have to keep the lights on" or "coronavirus was hard on us". Bitch it was hard on everyone, and that was almost 2 years ago. Get over yourselves.@@protorhinocerator142

You can't afford a $100K vehicle, unless you are paying cash for it.

Thats just not true lmfao.@@jameslittle5214

All that financing for a vehical that most of the dealerships have no effective ideal how to maintain or repair. Can't go in for a problem without it costing 3 grand to solve a problem anymore. Plus half the time the repair didn't resolve the problem down the road or made it worse.

That's why msrp is going up. Ford wants the cut when they do away with dealership

i think you are crazy. for vehicles that are now over 100,000 dollars, that aint nothing.

Perceived reliability, it has no parts shared with the old truck

Toyota and Nissan full sized trucks are just as expensive. It’s a combination of government mandates on all of these fancy cameras and computer sensors,along with the prices of the components and raw materials tripling in price .Then throw in the exorbitant freight prices . The result is that they are (/expensive and are going to stay that way . Suv’s , CUV’s everything is outrageous !!!

@MrMr That’s good, glad to hear it

I see the F150s make it to 300k before needing major repair.

Seriously is!

I visited Moab a few years ago and it’s a gorgeous area. Arches National park is something else.

In our modern world we don't need a middle man that adds nothing of value.

No, it isn't the dealer model, it's the people owning the dealerships. They are resorting back to the olden days when you couldn't trust a car dealer further than you could throw them. You think tesla's model is any better? I saw a famous youtuber buy and go to pick up his tesla and there were some issues with it and the guy delivering it said "suck it, do you want it or not"? Then he couldn't get in. The network was down. He was stuck there for (I think) over an hour trying to get in. You see, the special key cards that allowed you to get in even if the network was down were INSIDE the locked vehicle. The ONLY way to get in was with the phone app and that was down.

@@muskokamike127 a family member got a 2023 model X and even though it has panel alightment and paint issues, she just dropped it at a tesla store and they fixed it for free. Way better than a stealership trying to up sell you a BS service.

@@makatron Just so you know, the tesla is unibody, there are some panel alignment issues that they cannot fix without disassembling the entire vehicle. By the same token engineering explained has had issues getting HIS tesla repaired. There are good and bad to everything.

@@muskokamike127 at least they have the buying experience dialed in

I'm thinking sometime early next year prices should be good and low of course rates will be super high by then. With high new tuick inventory used prices should start to fall that's what I'm waiting for.

Well, even Carmax got caught paying too much for trade ins.

If you can’t afford a new car, just say it

carmax is shit. using them as a goldend standard is foolish

​@@mycarkilledu9034 why dont you admit it first?

Good to know.

I expect is going to be even worse than those stupid Broncos. Years of only ordering and waiting with insane markups.

Hell yeah brother! Toyota quality, dependability, and value is far superior to anything the big-3 can churn out.

Same experience--both at Ford and Toyota for popular models that they have lots of allocations--no problem. Easy to place my Tacoma order and wait 2 months and get MSRP no dealership add ons. 43k TRD off road 2021 Tacoma with some accessories and upgrades from Toyota. Ford was a breeze no mark up for Ford Ranger (I end up with the Tacoma). However--the issue is with on demand cars like the Broncos, Mavericks and I bet it will be the same for the 4g Tacoma too. People just need to learn to wait.

@thomasmagda I’ll bet that 4 runner is a real rascal in the Walmart parking lot. Can’t do much else with it

That's in your market. In mine, Toyota was and is adding ADM'S to almost all vehicles. $3-10k on 4runners, Tacoma, Tundra, Camry, and Prius. The dealer is also storing some vehicles off site to give a greater appearance of low inventory. I bought a 2020 4runner ORP in July of 20 during the peak of Covid hysteria for under dealer invoice plus a $1500 rebate. The sticker was $44k and I paid a tick over $39k. They were terrified the world was going to end and they would get stuck with vehicles. Right after that the chip shortage hit and they were calling me for a year offering me more than I paid to buy the 4runner back. Dealers Suck!

You need to watch more videos. Ford has NO problem with these pathetic markups and addons otherwise they'd be cutting production instead of flooding the lots with more and MOARR trucks...

They should let them flood with the inventory they were fighting for inventory before they should keep getting inventory then and eat up the cost

correct i paid in december of 2020 for a stx 4x4 for 43 grand and it has a 5.0 and special appearance package, cheap compared to now

Bidens America

@@jamaljacksonjr2652 not a fan to put it lightly

Last new Ford I bought. 2018 XLT 302A SuperCrew 4x4 302A Premium Package FX4 Offroad 3.5EB Under $40,000 out the door.

Totally agree!!!!

it's already happening. Car prices at auctions are dropping due to bank repos. People bought bought bought and paid premiums but now the economy is cooling people can't afford to keep the vehicles. Craig at Flying Wheels (youtube) does dealer auctions and his last video had 2 lanes dedicated to repos and I'm going to say there were 200+ vehicles going through?

unless you are a company, leasing is a stupid finincial decision. why would you want car payments for life?

@@congoparrot - People lease because they can't afford to buy the car. They are willing to pay those 3 year's worth of car rent in order to be seen driving that vehicle under the mistaken impression that others will be impressed.

@@congoparrot well, if you only keep your cars for 5 yrs, you're doing that anyways. Nowadays, that's about as long as they last without major repairs. Not sure what it's like now that the market has normalized, but a year ago if you leased a vehicle for 3 yrs, and your lease was up in 2022, you could buy back your lease, sell the vehicle for the total of your 3 yrs worth of lease payments.

You call 51k affordable?? That's crazy!!

When people pay these insane prices for something that gets 18 miles per gallon it is no wonder they retire with nothing in savings. This is just plain stupidity!

It’s not the unions driving up prices to these insane levels, a lot of it is the dealerships demand msrp and higher. look at Toyota trucks, they are insanely priced also and they are scabs. Not long ago a person would NEVER pay msrp

For some, particularly in rural areas, they are status symbols.

I love love seeing all this dealers full of trucks it brings tears of joy because I know oh i know they will be discounting those truck , oh how beautiful.

Mileage. I don’t tow or go off road. It’s fine for a daily driver and reliable

What are you talking about?

@@china1013 there was supposedly an ad somewhere with a Raptor done up in the rainbow flag 🏳️‍🌈

@@doylerhill people are butthurt about that?

😝😝😝That’s funny

@@paulhunter9613 Funny because it’s true.

@@jspin1103 it’s not true that’s why it’s funny

@@paulhunter9613 🤷🏻‍♂️ FACT. Imports have had OEMs on the run for years. Ever wonder why?

@@jspin1103because the imports have a handy tampon dispenser built into the dash for the owners to use?

And now they're neither 😅

That’s Moab for ya.

It’s people paying these over inflated prices is what’s causing them to stay with these outrageous, high prices. As long as they have. used and new.

Oh, yknow it just falls off,,,jeez

That’s what I’m hoping for, I can wait I have a 2021 but needing a 2500

So two yrs ago you bought a stripped down, 12 yr old designed truck with a six that won’t do much else than pull its carcass around. Good choice🙄