Ford F150 Lightning Off-Road Detail: Best Electric Truck for Detailing?

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This is a brand new Ford Lightning F150 and we test its usability as a mobile detailing truck. After testing the power capabilities at the AMMO Studio, we take the Lightning for some off-road fun and a middle of the woods detail. Enjoy!
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@RussellKasem Год назад

Hey Larry- Electrical Engineer here. How much power you're going to be able to pull from the trucks120V outlet is going to be limited to the trucks OCPD (over current protection device). Your typical household outlet will be connected to a 15A breaker or sometimes a 20A breaker. A caveat here is most circuit breakers of this size have two tripping modes: *Instantaneous* and *Long Time.* Instantaneous is meant to protect the wire when the circuit is immediately overloaded of faulted condition- You plug in a 30A load into a 15A circuit, or maybe the circuit is shorted. The breaker will trip immediately. The *Long Time* trip is meant to protect the circuit from overload over a period of time and is typically 80% of the maximum rating. So, if you plug in a Kranzle pressure washer into a 15A circuit and it pulls 14A, the breaker will eventually trip to prevent damage to the wire because 15A*0.80 = 12A. You can run a 12A load indefinitely, anything above that will eventually trip the breaker. Same is true for 20A circuit breakers. This is for continuous loads. A continuous load is defined by NEC (Electrical Code) as a load that operates longer than 3 Hours. An electrical pressure washer is not a continuous load because of the nature of the use case for it, it will turn on for 2-3 minutes and then shut off as you clean the car. This is why 20A dedicated circuits are rarely an issue. The Ford's outlet tripped immediately and did not let you use the pressure washer which means it was tripped instantaneously- meaning the pressure washer overloaded it by a factor much greater than its typical rating. What's interesting is, according to Ford the outlets can provide up to 7.2KW of power or 60A, but what is not stated is how each outlet is protected, I suspect they are limited to 15A each. Which is why your AR Blue tripped the circuit. AR recommends a minimum of 20A and when Obsessed Garage tested the pressure washer, the running ampacity was around 15-17A. Remember, a 15A circuit can run up to 12A continuously, above that it will trip eventually. Furthermore, 240V outlets are generally regarded as safer as they can deliver more power with less current. This is because Power = Current x Voltage x powerfactor (we'll ignore power factor for this exmaple though). Hope this helps!

@AMMO-NYC Год назад

Thx for the info!

@VinceCannavaII Год назад

I wonder about the possibilities of the Ego power pack....... Larry, we need to know!

@tofu.delivery. Год назад

So basically, anyone running a mobile detailing station should try to get 240V compatible equipment?

@xsterawesome Год назад

Also an electrical engineer and Ford Lightning owner here; each of the Ford Lightning 110v Outlets are rated for 20 amps. However, what is trippin isn't an old-school physical breaker, instead, the actual inverter is monitoring current and shutting down on its own (soft overload). The motors used on appliances like electric pressure washers have a massive inrush current and considering they switch on and off constantly due to how they're designed, you're bound to exceed 20 amps constantly. I know the Ford Lightning gives you some time to exceed the rated output I don't know how long that window is I think it's designed around air compressors that switch on and off not nearly as frequently as the pressure washer. Three workarounds I would suggest, One, try to be more intentional with pressing the trigger on your pressure washer(I learned this when I was constantly throwing a breaker at my house I regularly to feather the trigger on and off making my motor switch on and off more often than it needed to, instead I should hold down the trigger and very the distance to get all the control I need). Two, in practice, due to how the outlets are wired, I think you can pull more current out of the outlets in the trunk and truck bed than the ones in the cab even though they're rated for the same 20 amps.( however, if you close the trunk I think the front Outlets are limited to 400W) Last, there's the obvious, it will probably work fine if you use the 30 amp outlet and an adapter. You probably have one of the adapters lying around. If you have an RV, or ever bought a generator, it's the same connector.

@davidt3563 Год назад

As a colorblind person, thank you for your service! Electricians rock.

@gunsnsails Год назад

Only you dude. Only you.😂 When it comes to testing, I think you take the top honor. I love off-road as much as anyone else and I also love my Ram Rebel being as clean as possible...after a weekend of off-road. But, testing those capabilities may possibly sway a mobile detailer to go that route with a beautiful and capable truck. Pretty badass!

@charlieb308 Год назад

I can’t even concentrate on the Truck while a Buick GNX is sitting in the background OH MY!

@CoLiC2 Год назад

Electrical nerd here: it's easy, just use the 240v 😂

@samkamps3 10 месяцев назад

He said that he didn't have the adapter to plug into the 240v outlet.

@krisberntzen Год назад

This video brought to you by Ford 😄

@ChemX 11 месяцев назад

From what I can see online I think that 240v outlet runs 30 amps, with a 10% tolerance for voltage that should run a 230v 5hp electric power washer at 3.5gpm@2400psi, that would be fun to have mounted right in the bed with a reservoir and a hose reel😁

@Pigeoning Год назад

When I hear the word "frunk" it makes me appreciate "boot" and "bonnet" so much more. Score one for the commonwealth.

@tjd7785 11 месяцев назад

Love how stoked you were on this. Cool idea there,detailing with a view. Would be cool to see a full detail on another offroad vehicle (jeep or similar) way back in the sticks with a fun view or overlook.

@ak06041 Год назад

Vredestein as a brand are very underrated. The indian tyre company apollo acquired them and they make these tyres in india now(@7:44, you can see the made in india markings)..

@andrewwinch474 11 месяцев назад

Hopefully they’re better than when I used to see them separated all the time.

@CharlieGraff Год назад

I just test drove one of these, incredible truck!

@DeepDishPizza Год назад

I had multiple problems with my lightning. Ford then swapped it out for a new one. More issues. Rinse and repeat. On my third lightning now and everything has been peachy. Knock on wood.

@604h22a Год назад

Had you gotten regular f150 you wouldn’t have issues

@DeepDishPizza Год назад

@@604h22a incorrect. I’ve had plenty of issues with regular 150s

@Smurphenstein 11 месяцев назад

Some people may scoff at using three miles of range to wash the truck. How many people live within 1.5 miles of a car wash or groomer though so that seems a possible energy saving straight off the bat.

@madmax82988 Год назад

Yay! Finally!! This looks so cool

@BlakieTT Год назад

6:32 😂 Great video, Larry. Keep the comedy comin, please! 🤣

@ChadGeidel 11 месяцев назад

The all-terrain tire will work way better off road, but it’s going to reduce your range. I’d like to see you do a range comparison to see how much range you actually lose.

@randyealy310 Год назад

😂 That’s so awesome. I will have to try the Frothe on rubber floor mats.

@nothinglikeart4720 Год назад

Is it really safe to rub dirt without water, no matter what lubricating effect this special soap gives?

@Dwaynefreeman 11 месяцев назад

Now, we need a video where you driving around detailing people’s cars using only this truck!

@SupraTompan 11 месяцев назад

That's more like Car Cleaning Guru.

@RaldasDetails 11 месяцев назад

Very nice! I’ll have to build a nice mobile detailing setup out of this truck! 👍🏼👍🏼

@nickmartin4980 Год назад

When using a less powerful powerful washer maybe add more wash solution so you get more foam, just a thought I had, hope this helps guys

@RogerGarbow Год назад

Great video Larry, as always. It's nice to see you out playing in the woods! And excellent tire choice. I've been running the Vredestein Pinzas for over a year on my daily. They were such an improvement over my previous A/T tires in ride quality, handling, noise level and wet performance. And it's cool to see a Lightning getting dirty. Great truck!

@alanblasczyk1779 Год назад

Very trick idea Larry ! Nice job.

@siddharthsr1 11 месяцев назад

We need more on the go detailing for various types of cars and situations

@chewdoobautomotivedetailtm2883 Год назад

Larry im almost ready to take on clients waiting to get my regular pay check the 28 to order the industrial steam/vac and 8kw inverter..

@ThatRcThing Год назад

This is the exact demo I needed! I've been wondering if this would be the best vehicle for my mobile detail business!

@Amor1990 11 месяцев назад

I’d drive that thing off a cliff

@ThatRcThing 11 месяцев назад

@@Amor1990 huh, not my idea of fun, but you do you!

@ScrappersDetailing Год назад

Very interesting perspective on this detail. I like the concept!

@casey8836 Год назад

Self-powering NOT self-cleaning

@maximilianogomez5963 11 месяцев назад

That is cool been doing a detailing on a campsite with some beers and someone doing a barbecue.

@cadmando18 11 месяцев назад

That was awesome. I would still want the truck with the gas engine, but a hybrid would be cool.

@Masterplan15 Год назад

Fascinating vehicle. Of course it's have to get the hybrid F-150 since i live in an apt.

@Rodiak41 Год назад

Definitely one of your oddest videos yet, love it haha

@peterboss1118 11 месяцев назад

that is one of your best yet

@chewdoobautomotivedetailtm2883 Год назад

The way im setting up my steam vac which uses 3650 watt power .. my truck has a inverter hook up plugging in a 8KW inverter.. im going from 12v DC -220v ac...

@OnTrackDetailing 11 месяцев назад

Another excellent video. The power struggles are real! 😅

@KRAMPUS_G60_16V Год назад

Very interesting and expencive idea. I really wonder could it ever pay itself off if you make that pickup into a mobile detailing truck.

@jason21jburg Год назад

I day say the uplift in price would make it a while to pay its self off.

@RockyRepairs 10 месяцев назад

@@jason21jburg also the added stress to the system and battery, the more you use a battery the faster it goes out, and its expensive to replace so not really a good cost savings until batteries become cheaper

@alex210191 Год назад

Awesome video Larry!

@thamil-engineering Год назад

@AMMO-NYC These tyres are made in India. In 8:04 it can be clearly seen. Just my 2 cents. 😁

@the_ep_nerd7311 Год назад

Can the Rivian power the power washer longer than the lightning?

@interceptintercept 11 месяцев назад

Awsome video!

@aaronaustrie 11 месяцев назад

Super dope 🔥

@der_kluger_gunther8391 Год назад

this is the first electric car that i would tolerate, having some power while going around is a must nowadays so it's a good concept. but my real question is: some couple of years after, does the batteries will hold enough power to do those things? anyway, cool truck btw.

@johnhardin7955 11 месяцев назад

I see the GT hiding out in the background, cant wait to see your video on it

@noobwow2009 11 месяцев назад

When you hit a rock and this thing become furiously spontaneous 😂 The moment American roast themselves 😂

@mej684 Год назад

Only Larry would detail a truck in the middle of the woods.

@foxbodyboys4483 Год назад

I got a pump and hose and wash my truck camping at the lake 😬

@MarioDallaRiva Год назад

Larry’s wife: Yeah camping with Larry is always interesting… 😆

@richardtabor8686 Год назад

super cute premise.

@jonnyjonnyyespapa8013 Год назад

Only Larry would put European offroad tires on an American truck 😂😂😂

@gailpring9775 11 месяцев назад

I have a 1995 Ford F-150 with some fuzzy seats how do I clean them?

@grscum Год назад

If a truck cleans its self in the middle of the woods, does it make a sound? There has to be a joke in here somewhere.

@atlmz6 Месяц назад

Thinking about getting this or a Cyber Truck for my mobile detailing business. I really could use a model Y if they had power outlets. Trying to eliminate using a generator.

@kylebouyers51 7 месяцев назад

I think I'm in love

@subsonicbass 11 месяцев назад

Can’t wait until these are affordable lol!

@johnphillips519 Год назад

Cant wait till they come to Oz

@londoncentral Год назад

Battery operated jet wash !! Park near a lake Larry 😉😎

@matty_isthemotto 11 месяцев назад

So what happens when you drain the battery detailing yourncar then younget stranded.

@hviw3h3n Год назад

How many miles is a full clean. Seems to take 10-15 miles.

@scottw595 10 месяцев назад

100k truck what a steal!!!!!!!!

@kendavis1198 11 месяцев назад

That's very Interesting Larry. Kinda made me Raise an eyebrow to the "TEXAS" Disaster when they Used these Pro Power On Board FORD Pick Up Trucks to POWER Entire Homes. I know they were Using the "Higher Voltage" Outlet in the Back for Heavy Duty stuff, but the 110VAC Outlets have "limits' to the amount the Truck is Capable of putting out. So in that regard this is GREAT Information to have, Being that ALL The FORD Commercials Lead you to Believe that you can Just Plug Anything in and Start Working???? Again, Great Video, Kinda Cool to see ya Beating around in the Woods, and detailing in the same spot. Wish I had that much FrothE to Squirt all over everything? 😂😎😳, Yikes, that musta cost a TON??

@sreville Год назад

So cool to see an EV on here and it’s so exciting to see how self-reliant one can be with a vehicle like this! And props to see one finally get dirty too!

@cdaway2024 Год назад

HOW ABOUT GETTING THE LIGHTING TO SELF CHARGE BEFORE WE GET TO SELF CLEANING? LOL

@ilikechickensausages2075 Год назад

How about you lay off the caps old man

@championxxlNL 11 месяцев назад

Get the European version, you'll have 230v 16A power outlets all around and 400v 25A in the bed aswell

@dancoyne4151 Год назад

So did you buy this for Ammo? Or just borrowing it?

@AMMO-NYC Год назад

Borrow

@dougnokia Год назад

Cool

@jamesb6153 Год назад

I missed it: Larry, do you own that? Is that your next detail employee?

@i2cube Год назад

Self-cleaning truck* *Some assembly required. Not supplied with Larry.

@mikedavis2969 11 месяцев назад

What is the cost of the truck ?

@ngbsolo138 11 месяцев назад

Nice episode. But no way am I buying an electric vehicle. To many horror stories accumulating.

@dazzrods 10 месяцев назад

I don't know the figures but I'm sure a Hilux out sells these F150's bumpy a long way!

@davidt3563 Год назад

This has got to be some form of world record. Like first electric truck cleaned after off-roading in the woods by battery and elbow grease.

@KonstaNykanen 11 месяцев назад

Is this F-150 Lightning yours Larry?

@Joshklawansky 11 месяцев назад

Was that tire the sponsor for the video?

@timbrown9731 Год назад

Actually, would’ve been funny if Larry used some Milwaukee D/A with their electric batteries, and then charge them off the truck 💧🎤

@stevansaunders18 11 месяцев назад

I would miss the engine sound 😂. I know. I am little weird 😂

@jayden92312 4 месяца назад

i have a car detailing business im mobil i go to the clients house and i drive a wrangler with a trailer currently soending 200 on gas a week this truck will be awesome fir me but not so sure if is good at towing 300 gallons of water plus my equipment 🤷🏻‍♂️

@KPDetails Год назад

Trading in the Taycan for the Lighting?

@muradomar5649 Год назад

MURAD form Toronto 🇨🇦👋👌🤘🏻

@kylepapke9357 11 месяцев назад

AR Blue 630tss pulls 20 amp

@ginman69 8 месяцев назад

Electric Vehicles…not saving the planet. Not the most efficient choice of vehicles. I hope you got paid to influence EV. I love this channel. STRIKE ONE ✌🏼🤟🏼🇺🇸

@homes24 Год назад

Such a cool change of your typical videos

@MegaJosephandrew Год назад

Guess self cleaning means you still have to clean it yourself

@rm0234 11 месяцев назад

Is this your own truck Larry?

@ultimateglossllc 11 месяцев назад

🎉🎉🎉

@timbrown9731 Год назад

Polishing the paint on my car in the woods, using battery power from the vehicle ……💧🎤

@matthiasweigel311 10 месяцев назад

No tires for my truck.....:(

@P4SDetails Год назад

Still haven’t gotten to spend time with these yet. Kinda want to.

@Hitomaru-shiki.sensha 11 месяцев назад

keep that garage door in case these electrics turn into fireballs and you gotta emergency roll it out. the fumes alone will kill and maim. ultra dangerous to anyone down-wind.

@megaruhe6296 Год назад

Would be impressed if it actually cleaned itself.

@TheTarrMan Год назад

Is that a pure sine wave AC power it makes? It can damage sensitive electronics if it's not.

@extraspc5182 Год назад

At the drag strip last weekend I cooked a whole breakfast for 8 people using my buddies new Lightning. My 2016 is on the clock 😂

@Parkster1212 Год назад

So that’s yours?

@Vikturus22 11 месяцев назад

the range on these are terrible. Hoovies garage bought one and he barely got half the milage advertised any time!

@pjbuma13 11 месяцев назад

Not sure a $75k truck is feasible for a side hustle.

@roninbudo Год назад

One thing how long does it take to charge????? I can drive 18 hr from NY to FL That's with a gas engine,Waiting for Hours to charge is one thing will stop me from buy one even if I had the money...

@bstewartexecutivecarcare3797 Год назад

One of the most entertaining videos I’ve seen in a long time. But only Larry would venture out to the woods to detail a car🤪 Thanks for thinking out side the garage 👍✌️☮️

@wozmac771 4 месяца назад

No matter what you do to a Ford truck or car, its still a Ford with all its inherent low quality workmanship, parts and inbuilt defects.

@jkxelor1295 Год назад

Better hope that thing doesn’t spontaneously combust in the shop.

@mgthaking4615 Год назад

I mean, it is a Ford😊

@JXS63J Год назад

This would be more believable if your wife were along on this trip into the woods and then started making faces as you insisted on cleaning the truck made dirty by the woods. But we really don't need your wife to verify the following: YOU ARE NUTS! But I'll keep watching....

@dcast777 11 месяцев назад

FYI, If you really look at the numbers the GM truck is the best selling. The GMC Sierra and the Chevy Silverado are the same truck. It's really kind of misleading to say the F150 is the best selling truck.

@KINGVONFRM063 Год назад

LARRY

@ilikechickensausages2075 Год назад

YRRAL

@orated762 Год назад

I feel like for 100k you could have built a pretty amazing trailer with solar panels and batteries. You could have also purchased a F150 option that has built in inverter which would be more practical in this situation if you didn't want to pull a trailer around. Excessive reason to buy a Ford Lightning but looks like a nice write off.