Ford Focus RS vs Subaru WRX STi vs Evo X FQ400 

We have Evo vs Scooby coming soon....!

My brother had an Evo 6, Tommy M edition. I have driven a few cars in my days...man, I love the Evo 6. It was a sadomasochistic experience. Th3 car screamed “Beat me!”. And I did, and loved it. Does that make me a bad person? :-)

I honestly hope that they don’t because if they do they’ll probably give it the Eclipse treatment.

@@reansooney eclipse was never a Japanese car it was American built coupe in America’s Mitsubishi factory! Toyota has Corolla and Corolla Cross so there’s no lost hope for new Evo sedan and Eclipse Coupe

@@jalalelyas1057 I know, I’m saying I hope they don’t give the Evo the same treatment they did to the Eclipse

Yes it was a little unfair. TBH it was a sunday afternoon drive that turned into a bit of an AWD car fest

A 22b isn't from the same era as an evo X.

Cs400 sti is the main rival to the fq400

the only difference between the normal evo and the fq400 is the trim and the hp the drive train is the same it will still beat the crap out of that sti when it comes to handling.

Facts ^

The Evo was definitely the biggest surprise of the day. Would you stick with the Evo X or go for one of the earlier models?

Evo cost 20000 pounds more brand new why its better , wrx sti 31,990 / evo x FQ400 52,000 pounds

Ben Chesterman yup for sure 👍

evo still dominates all 4 banger turbo cars even at the base even though its almost a 5 year old discontinued car in speed and on the track

Lovecars i love the evo x but my favorite evo is the evo 9, btw great quick review mate👍😊

patayan tribe yes you’re absolutely right though we tagged along on Petrol Ped’s video. Just got lucky there were 3 relatively similar AWD cars there.

The fq is still way better 👍 Watch the engineering explained video of the ra sti. I totally believe him when he says it's not worth the money.

Jsm madrid the extra 5 hp in the RA would have made all the difference...

The RA is not special

The RA is not a comparison. I love subies. I own a 2018 sti but the FQ400 deserves respect for the monster it is.

Wayne S. We didn’t say it was a bad thing! And didn’t know you were aware of our driving credentials 😂 Thanks for watching and for the feedback 👍🏼

Wayne S. what do you need high speed for when its a RALLY CAR....

@@superaua its not a rally car...

@@Demofix33 its a rally car

@@Demofix33 is it a quarter mile car then? Look at sti's history its definatley a rally car

Thought the same thing

Livetosucceed10 Yep.

And fugly.

Sadly yes

Yes but it acts like a awd but what should be in it’s spot cough cough a4..... _>

I wish its a awd but sadly a fwd again this 2050 :(

bliglum Yeah, I don't understand that car being there. I could care less about it.

The Dealer the type r civic is awd

bliglum That's a stock FQ400 though 😋

Yeah, the older CTR at that too. This video made zero sense with it's choices, and can easily discredit the vid due to that alone. No kidding a modified from the factory then sold as new UK only car made more power thus felt more fun. The guy in the vid is a real goofball for doing this.

jbritter913 no it’s fwd

warriormonx congrats that's my dream car lol

warriormonx BYE BYE RS .....EVO 10X THE CAR TRUST.

warriormonx IM A EVO OWNER AND THAT EVO ... DAAAAAM! AND THAT RS WOULD BE A GOOD LEARNER FIRST CAR

Same bro

stick with the ford...i had a colt gsi great engine drive was shite...i got a 2litre tdci focus sport mode or comfort and youd think dfs had put in a 3piece suite..comfort drive

dario grimes it was very special

I kinda annoys me that he said "theres nothing about it that would excite me or take it for a monster drive down some b roads" without actually driving it spiritedly. The funny thing about the evo too, its absolutely loaded with computers, traction, stability and active yaw control. Plus ultra light steering. The guy loves the car because he can drive it like a granny.

A catback is already sound nice

Wow, lucky you. What a car. We did another more comprehensive video of that car on this channel vs the Subaru

Thanks Ped, was a pleasure to spend the day with you. Glad you enjoyed the video! 👍

Petrol Ped any way have you learned that the evo is the boy ?

Are these roads near the Welsh Coast? I recognise where you did the handbrake turn I think

Alex Zevallos 😐👍

Alex - evo x finished in uk in 2014 with the fq440. That being said the x wasn't well supported in uk relative to the 9. US has much better tuning scene than uk.

are you sure about that? The reason UK had the FQ series in the first place is because the market for Evo's in UK were insanely demanded back then,especially in the tommi makinen days. Therefore the tuning scene would be too? The 4b11 is just more complicated to tune than 4g63,it's well known,even in in North America people don't really know how to tune those.Despite what people say 4b11 is better I believe,AMS performance and such tuners make their own 4b11 with only slightly bigger bore. It wasn't well supported at all in North America at first if you remember?People whining,wanting their 4g63 back.Not being a real evo for not having 4g63 and bla bla bla.

samymasta - some fair points although my impression is that the x isn't that popular a tuning platform over here. I think some of it has to do with the ecutek system. I have a tuned x (mhi 18k/boltons) but 8/9's seem far more popular, particularly in tuning scene. Quite often get parts from states - tuning scene seems pretty healthy over there.

Yeah well I think it has to do with big companies like AMS,ETS,STM,which made extremely powerful and reliable parts/tunes. You got some 2008 evo x on E85 running 1000hp+ The aftermarket car culture is,by far way ahead in the US I'll give you that,more than anywhere else on earth. It's the tuners around here you have to be very careful.In north America we're used to 8 cylinders that push 700 hp+ like a fart. It's a completely other thing to tune a 2.0l turbocharged engine to 700hp lol,especially considering how suprisingly lean the Evo x runs. Here where I live in Quebec,Canada,there are only TWO well known tuners who are recognised as being knowledgeful of the 4b11,for the whole province. I don't know if you know,but Quebec,is fucking huge lol. The 2 biggest evo forums in Canada actually recommends to go have your Evo tuned in the US,not Canada. That gives you an idea lmfao. Not only that but pretty much all world records are held and broken by American tuners times and times again.

i think his taking the piss XD

Ethan Knowles, so I was hearing that right?!

Hes bias af🤣🤣 only channel that ive seen who criticize wrx sti 🤣

I would assume it’s stock af too lol

Thanks very much Ian! 😊

Great cars

Yup where all part of a cult called vape naysh

Mazharabbas Sherali Subaru’s would are definitely the most reliable out of those cars.

@@aaronnolting2924 i know dude its a joke i realy like subaru too

@@aaronnolting2924 ok 😀

Senpai 😐👍

Yeah huh? Single digit percentage is crazy. It was a low percentage of cars that had the wrong headgasket installed at the factory due to unskilled european laborers. Ford recalled all the RS sold even if the correct gasket is there and replaced it just in case. Too bad you can't use that line anymore, goofball.

HeAdGaSkEt?!

Aaaaaaand now its gone

Open deck motor..so sad. Those are usually made for NA cars

Completely clueless!

at the end of the day its personal preference, but his also not wrong the STI is probably the less exciting (stock), it has less power than the three and probably one of the heaviest cars in its catagory, but damn put hi-flow intake and turbo back exhaust and tune on the STI and your laughing. im pretty sure (dont quote me on this) the STI has more capability with bolt ons than the others.

Did he try the different modes. I never saw that while he was trying out the sti

SubaBuu 4b11 has more potential and easy to upgrade🤫 It’s hard to make 350p on ej25 with stock block.

Id get the evo. Mx5 is okay inguess but if a mazda go for rx7

Thanks Emerald, appreciate it! 😊

Hope you're right and you get both and more!

Lovecars i appreciate it , and same to you hopefully you get your dream cars and more 🤞

Adam Bornstein very kind words thanks! You know the feelings are very mutual with what you do 🙂🙂

Haha, thanks very much Nick, and of course for all your input. Your frequent commenter's card is in the post. 😉

Oualid Aouida thanks a lot. We put the drift button to the test in a more in-depth Focus RS video coming soon!!

Looking forward to see that 😊

Good call. If you like that see our video we just posted all about the Evo X 👍

We don't think we did the STi justice. We didn't push it at all and only drove it for a short distance (didn't bond with the car at all). We really want to give it another go and see how it does on a longer test

uptheduffagain will check it out on your channel now. We were very impressed with the Evo. What a great car.

FORD - Fix Or Repair Daily

Production error not the car. Personally I'm a bigger fan of the 5cyl but the current one has a ground breaking AWD system which is ahead of the competition

cliff owens The AWD system in the MK3 Focus RS is basically what you'd find in a Range Rover Evoque, I also remember hearing that even in standard trim Ford were right at the limit of what it could reliably take in terms of power. The Evo might be the oldest car there but it's got Super Active Yaw Control & an Active Centre Diff, the only mechanical downside is the 5 speed gearbox. Ford have now issued a recall for the defective headgaskets on the RS.

Ah yes because Evos never had any kind of mechanical failures in small amounts of their vehicles, what a silly thing to say.

Think you know our answer....!

Germaingazm love the feedback, thank you! Nice car you have. I enjoyed driving it but it was almost a bit too good and predictable for me. A louder exhaust would solve a lot of problems in my book 😜

Haha I know what you mean! I lasted 2 months and ordered a cat back exhaust for that subey rumble! The steering is heavy though as you said, when I drive my girlfriends Focus ST and go back to my STI you can really feel it.

Germaingazm sti gets louder the more you drive it. Brand new, it's quiet

good thing I got my invidia r400 exhaust on the way too :D haha😍

Shawn Moses that’s good to know. The one we drove missed some drama in the noise department!

It's a very impressive car for sure! Thanks for your kind words Rodrigo. 😊👍

Outdoor Layne must be frustrating for Ford. It’s a good little car. But lacked the quality feel of the equivalent Mercedes, VW, etc

Rodrigo Pando Cairo it's stiff so should be fast on track but it's not.

Not true. Ford messed up by putting mustang eco-boost head gaskets in some. Bad mistake by Ford assembly yes, bad engine, no.

Someone posted the engineering documentation reports on the RS engine in the FocusRS forums. It's a long read, but, my takeaway is this engine is pretty maxxed from the factory. There's not much margin in it. Not to say that makes it bad, but I'd rather have a heavier, more stoutly built block. People are going to want to tune a hothatch, and I don't know if a high specific output all aluminum open deck design is conducive to it.

Thank you and the evo is full of character 👍

Yes you're right. We don't think we gave the car the justice it deserved. Next time we will put it through its paces for sure

Lovecars thank you for replying :)

Ernie Flannel anytime! 😁👍🏼

Honestly Subarus are not impressive I cannot believe people still consider them to be something as good as Evo's they don't compare at all they don't hold boost very well they are highly expensive for cars that are barely running 6-second 0 to 60 s with a turbo how pathetic is that how are you going to have a 13 second quarter mile with an engine that's supposed to be one of the best 4 cylinder turbo is out there may be back in the 90s it was but it isn't now an evo n a focus are two way better options Subarus are for people who want a sporty car but don't want to pay the money to actually own a race car

mitsumike 6g72 I just like it for what it is, im not obsessed about all the technical details and 0-60 times, I just prefer the car over the others. I dont compare cars to other makes and models if im not interested in them, so comparison doesnt come into it for me. Some people like marmite, some dont. Its personal choice, I dont need a reason.

teopini obviously not on camera. We were on public roads 👍

Mac Dawg you’re very lucky. Was a fun car to drive. We did some drifting in it too. Coming out soon!

Fento L good choice

You've nailed our sentiments. Such a good analysis and summary. The Evo was / is very special

Whit that price.I get a GTR

why it wasn't sold in the states , Yanks would winge paying $70000usd without taxes

After 7 years of owning the FQ400 i havent got board of it yet and i normally get board after 3 years. Its an absolute pleasure to drive, it's a keeper for sure!

Good point, and agree with you. It was WRX vs RS, and our friend came with the FQ400 as an unexpected bonus.

Yeah, it was a really stupid review to do something like this. Instantly removed all credibility from the source. Won't watch again. It's just such common sense not to do something stupid like that.

What a naughty boy he is. You tell him captain.

Glad you liked it Robert, thanks for watching!

Thanks very much Edward, fingers crossed you get to have a go in one soon!

The only problem is they have problems with the RS is head problems

1.6 ton small car and slower than the cheaper more fun type-r when you lap them on track. Don't fool yourself it won't be future classic.

Too bad they blow heads more than brazillian male prostitutes

Classic for having engine problems. Sure.

yeah i own 16 sti and yeah i agree i feel like they are going to be FA in 2020, i still love my car tho :)

MelburnDownhill thanks watching and for the feedback. It’s really appreciated and helps us improve each time

MelburnDownhill damn right. Gotta keep your finger on the volume. Ruined the whole experience.

Aoru yup get that for sure. But it just felt so much older and analog. It’s a compliment to the Evo really, as the other 2 were very predictable!

Yeah. Evos always had much more driving tech than STi’s.

The Civic wasn't a major feature in the video and only the AWD cars are reviewed. Golf R video coming soon!

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Agreed, perhaps the Evo will make a triumphant return in a few years?

highly doubt it when nissan owns 1/3 of mitsubishi, they will most likely not make it compete with their gtr or 370z sports line

Lovecars considering the electric world now emerging... its hard to see our fav car to exist... come to think of it, what the next gen will miss out

Thanks very much. Very jealous of your car! Will watch your video soon 👍

Booster Buddy 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

There an owl in the back seat lol

Fezza thanks very much for watching and for the feedback. (Jealous of your RS!)

Ya if Suby brought back the hatchback they would get their fire back

Let's start a pation to ask them to develop a new shape but old style engine with some new mods or something like that? Just a suggestion like to get Scooby back on there way

sure...but I'm in Spain ;)

Oh no! That's unfortunate. Hope you can find a replacement! Look forward to the video ;)

Cool! Yes the colour looks great in real life

Drew J good question. We just turned up to meet a friend in his WRX and the EVO ended up being a huge bonus!

Poor planning and thought process really is why it was included.

WRX STi (WR1) is much more special than FQ400!

Cause every youtuber wants mitsu to win Subarus are not allowed to win.

It's the tenth version of the Evo. Hence the roman numeral X. Brits like to say Mark to refer to version so Evo Mark 10 just means Evo X.

Jayson McGuiness nope. It was because it was very uninspiring and had little excitement or personality. For a sports car, personally we don’t want it just to be “competent”. We didn’t drive it far and will try it again as perhaps we didn’t do the car justice.

Lovecars imo the post 07 stis have gone to shit and in general the value of the Subaru is the cheap parts

ASAP BAS Agreed 👎

Edward Reyez Cant see it happening. Shame 😐

Lovecars we'll see.. now nissan and mitsubishi merges..

Regulations in Japan killed it

@@edreyez484 nissan killed 2 cars i love the pajero and now the evo...

That’s true. It was just a Sunday drive that somehow turned into a very popular video on our channel 🤷‍♂️👍

👍fair enough

Spot on with the locations! We're only up the motorway a few junctions, so will be back there again very soon (avoiding the caravan silly season!)

Michael Matta agree. I have a ‘17 STI and I have a hard time not finding a reason to just get out and drive it. I love the noise, the handling, it’s little quirks. All around perfect car for me.

Yes a few people said the same. Good excuse to try it out again soon.

No hes right.... they are pieces of shit.

Which one though...? 😬

Lovecars Ford Focus rs

Lol funny cause I walk stis daily in my RS, around corners and digs too 🤣🤝

Ben Chesterman good call. But price and value aside, we would still choose it :)

it cost more than a Hsv gts back then . I'm sure people whinged at the price for a Fq400

Eikichi Onizuka it was pretty special

Robert Mizen hi Bob. Thanks for the kind words as always. Hope you’re doing well

I think part of it is that they haven't moved the game on from the cars they were making 20 years ago, where as the likes of Ford have. Thanks guys, very much appreciated! 😎

Regulations , high taxes have hurt Subaru manufacture since mid 2000 , Blame government in Japan

Too think they havent massively updated their engines for almost 15 yrs

Pjmperez01 everything was ok, but just had no drama

Lovecars true

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