2017 Honda Civic Type R vs. Subaru WRX STI -TRACK REVIEW // ONE TRACK MIND Ep. 6 

Wow a MILLION views! Thanks everyone for watching! I want to address a few things that people keep commenting on. Many of you are right about the vtec in the Type R. It does have vtec, but it doesn't operate in the way that I worded it in the video. It is used to boost torque in lower RPMs to keep smooth torque delivery as the turbo kicks in. Also, the c-diff controller in the STI only controls the centre diff, and yes as may of you have stated, you are better to leave it in "auto" mode. (Which I and Colin did do, I was only trying different things, to create more oversteer). As for the understeer in the STI, sadly this is the reality. Yes, as many of you have said, you can aggressively flick the car in and get it into a bit of a slide, but what I was demonstrating in the video, is that its NOT EASY. The Type R and the Focus RS rotate easily in stock form. Also despite what you saw in the drag race video, we did many takes and got broadly the same result. So whatever launch you saw in any of the cars, thats just the footage I chose for one reason or another. The reality is, the Focus RS wins off the line, followed by the STI, and the type R eventually pulls on the STI. That was consistent. Thanks for watching!!

Got some advice for people. 1. Buy what you like 2. If you don’t like something and someone else does, let them enjoy whatever their hearts desires without getting bent out of shape 3. Each of these cars are great and whatever suits you, great. 4. Stop arguing like 13 year old about what’s better, writing paragraphs to each other 5. I own an STI and driven my buddies Type R. They are both great cars. I love you all ✌🏼

Evo X changes engine People: “its not an evo, it doesn’t have the heart” STI keeps same engine People: “the ej25 has been around for too long”

May we have a minute of silence to remember the days of the Evo X

The Type R is an absolute weapon. Thank you Honda!

The STi obviously lost because It wasn't WR Blue...

That type R is fast in a straight line for not being a drag car.

It's so cool to see that Thomas is now setting the lap times for the channel. He has become such a good driver.

In terms of reliability I would take the Type R, sometimes less is more and this is a great example of how a track car with only FWD is very capable without over engineering and all the extra hardware.

I'm a Subaru fanboy and I'm glad that STI lose. After they made the phenomenon STI years ago, Subaru became lazy and just sit on their hand far too long. It's normal that the other will catch up one day. I'm hope this will wake them up and made them step up their game on the next gen STI.

This show is awesome guys I love that you guys actually consider the tuning and modifying aspect keep up the great work :)

All of these cars does some things better than the other, but the Type R for me is overall the best

I've owned RWD (Mustang GT) FWD (Focus) and AWD (WRX) and I'll likely stick with AWD from here on out. Dry, rain or snow my WRX is fun 365 days a year. I don't have the luxury of being able to have 2-3 cars so having a single car that is both fun and practical all year round is very important to me.

First time I've watched one of your videos - quite impressed! Great camera work, informative, entertaining without being silly . . . excellent work guys! I shall subscribe and look out for more.

Let’s just appreciate that all the cars that are being showcased are legendary of this generation

I love the Type R!

First time watching your channel, gotta say it's very professional. Love the camera work and editing quality!

This is like a more... "Amateur" Top Gear.. I LOVE it. Well spoken, beautifully filmed, and amazing quality. Awesome job!!!

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I want to see a track episode where you have the Type R vs the Focus RS. I really dont care about drag time or 0-60 but an actual track race from a line and from a rolling start.

this is one of the best, most well put together comparison videos in a long time. kudos.

The styling of the Civic is just way too subtle

Intro was good, track testing was fun (as Always).. But conclusion was epic Keep the great work fellas!

Where did you guys find Ford RS that didn't have a blown motor at the 15000 miles

Dope channel they even have their own stig I'm definitely subscribing!!

Thanks for the details, Nice compare. After a test drive I fell in love with the Type-R. Its amazing. I new though Honda would have such a good come back. Good job Honda.

Dude I absolutely love your review man you look like you're having a blast out there and you made me really excited for that type R and you make me think I'm going to buy one. I'm about to begin you are kind of unsure and kind of nitpicking a couple things and then suddenly like 2 minutes and suddenly it was like okay this is a good car this is a really good car!

Thanks for an unbiased review. Awesome stuff!!

Best review on RU-vid hands down!

That’s a fair answer at the end. You put that together well. 👍🏾

first time I see your work. well done, so much effort , great and valuable content ! well done! It was a good surprise

Totally agree with the ending. STi is slow af from factory, but with a new turboback exhaust and tune, youve just unleashed the monster. Its so much better

Awesome comparison, great quality on the video! Love both the STI and the Type R. Subscribed

Civic Type R Nurburgring time 7 minutes 43 seconds Wrx STI Nurburgring time: 7 minutes 55 seconds Focus RS Nurburgring time : 8 minutes 6 seconds Golf R Nurburgring time: 8 minutes 23 seconds Veloster N Nurburgring time: 10 seconds 1 second OVERALL THE CIVIC TYPE R IS THE KING OF THE NURBURGRING

recognized you from Grotto, to build channel this great and big needs a lot of work and time! great job! i enjoy the video very much, keep it up buddy!

Yup and that's how a review is done! Chris is just the best there is!

Considering the ancient technology inside the STi, I'm actually VERY impressed that it's still able to keep up with the latest and greatest technology inside the RS, Type R and VW R. Very cool. The thing is, Subaru doesn't do straight line driving so they don't really mind (or care) that these other 3 cars are killing the STi on dry pavement/asphalt tracks. Carry on. Great reviews!

Great commentary and insight - subscribed. Your channel name through me initially!

Well done sir, looks like you got to have some fun

The "You suck" jab after they hear your lap time is really funny and reminds me so much of the movie Clerks.

You vids are so good right now.

The differential switch in the sti doesn’t “send power to the rear”, or the front. It controls the degree of slip in the center differential. So maybe one could say that with it switched all the up to “lock”, then you have 50:50 front/rear. But you can’t control how much torque goes to the front or rear.

To be honest there! I nearly left but hung in and found in the end a very balanced video. Good job!!

That's what i call driver He doesn't struggle with steering He rotates the steering very soft and smooth Unlike some other famous drivers like tiff needell,who always wrestles with steering wheel,this guy is mind-connected with steering Absolutely nice,this man is the best driver

He won cause VTEC kicked in

Video is produced at high quality. Great work.

Another thing to point out that is that this video was recorded at the Cayuga TMP, racetrack in Ontario, Canada. It has two LOOOONG straights that clearly gives the Focus RS an advantage - hence the laptime. If this was taken at a more balanced race track like Shannonville, the results would be different. But then again if you look at the Nurburgring laptime set by the new Type R (7:43.8) vs. the new Focus RS (8:06), the difference is also huge.

Man you guys have come a long way

I like that the Type R license plate has "CRX" in it

So - I just purchased STi Final Edition in WR blue. Before that, I was test driving all three of them three times each as I had hard times to decide… to cut a long story short, to me it comes down to what you want to use the car for. In my garage the STi will be a 3rd car, being used seldom on track days and more often on mountain roads, on sunny and wet days. Therefore the super sticky, real 4 - wheel drive, the frenetic brakes, the very special boxer engine layout and sound, combined with true heritage and pedigree made it for me. Shame on me, but I also think it looks best 🙃.

Type R is a masterpiece

Saw 2 videos before this. I am confident in what car I am going to get. Thanks for the video.

Nice honest comparison ,I had a STI and loved it but a shoulder Injury put me out of the stick shift market because of my long commutes. I can say that the Honda does have impresive numbers but looks like a teenages wet dream not that the STI is pretty but people use to have to put that much ugly on a vehicle ,it never came stock.

great review. i will still go with type R. :). love the vtec kick in. non alike.

Thomas and James remind me of the original 3 from Top Gear in a great way. They don't try an imitate them at all, but the way they deliver the information and show the cars off in comparisons feels very similar to watching the top gear track tests back in the Top Gear days!

Underrated channel. Great video.

Watched it a year ago when I was driving my S2k. Came back to watch it now that I have a 2020 Type R. I love it and would pick it again over all the others.

The Type R is so cool, totally fits what I'm looking for. Hopefully I'll be able to get one!

This channel should have a Million Subscribers - brilliant vid' Throttle House

The STI was out of it's element.

dealers will kill the type r like they did the RS. Dealers marked up the hell out of the rs and people stayed away and ford thinks no one wants the car because they are sitting on lots. SO ford decides to end the RS line but its not because people didn't want them its because people didn't want them for 10grand over msrp

People always take the wrx or sti to the track and compare it to other cars that are more designed for the track. Although they do good it's not where they shine. It's in the real world where the subarus will destroy these other cars. In the rain, snow, dirt, and gravel. None the less, great work on the vids.

All of the cars are interesting in their own way. I am biased towards the RS, since I have an ST as my daily (I didn't but the RS, as it is a $60,00 car all day in Ontario, even before/without dealer markups). The ST has proven to be an absolute riot almost everytime I drive it, gets reasonable fuel economy, and has been quite mechanically sound. Here in Ottawa, the ST and RS are wayyyyy less common than the others. GTI's, WRX's...they are as common as a Corolla by comparison. The type R is a badass too, but they are also big money around here. Anyways, awesome content, awesome info, and keep doing what you guys are doing...I would say you guys are one of the fastest growing RU-vid channels for petrolheads, and you deserve it!

Why does this channel not have a million subs?!?! Well done!

His videos remind me of the good old top gear

Great content man keep up the good work 👌🏻

your review and comments along with seemingly non bias statements got a sub.

Good video. Hope you guys get the 2018 versions of the honda and of the RS. Those cars are beasts!

id still buy an STI no doubt. I have one lol but its my 2nd. they hold their value extremely well. This Type R probably will as well but STI is proven.

wow this is solid content. AutoGuide tried to do a comparison video of the same cars and it's absolute trash.

Awesome video, keep on bringing it

It all comes down to what you like. I would go with the STI. I love the sound and I live in Colorado. Snow.

Great vid! Didn't realize Canada had Top Gear.

It’s settled I’m getting the type r

Loved how he summed it up at the end

Very good review! Subscribed.

your inside vehicle camera made me think i was having acid flashbacks and was tripping

I wish everyone who down votes a video had to explain why... Disagreeing with someone on their point of view isn't a good reason to down vote a video. You may not agree but that doesn't invalidate the work put into it.

Good shit yall do the best track reviews, looks like yall have the most fun, yall actually love n like to drive theses cars nd try yall best to have fun thru the hole video. Thanks nd keep up with the awesome videos. Nd if it's not too much to ask 4 if yall could try and do a ac cobra vs boss 302 vs jaguar project 8 vs alfa romeo stelvio quadrifoglio track test that would be fucking awesome nd grate views 💪🏽👏🏽 keep up the grate work yall

Had a BASE 718 Cayman PDK as a loaner with ONLY 300HP and raced a RS from both standing still and highway pulls from about 50mph and the base Cayman killed it EVERY TIME ! didn't seem possible from specs but yup absolutely killed it

Please do an evo x review! I'm very curious. I live in Canada too and I absolutely want an awd car for the winter so my options are limited!

I remember the time when comparing the predecesors of these three cars was just a joke you could tell at a car meet or something

i love how you include the speedometer and dual screen for both cars when the second driver gave it a shot! awesome learning opportunity right there

This guy was spot on. The STi is a great car, I owned one for 4 years. But, you need to make a few suspension modifications to it in order to make it rotate better. The Focus RS is fast out of the box, but he forgot to mention the seating position is pretty bad. The Type R is a wonderful car, & it's interesting to see how far FWD has come.

You have to agree, that ford focus rs is an amazing bang for buck

Great job guys. I live in Toronto. If you see a black on black '14 GT500 or a Stealth Gray Focus RS give a wave.

Another great video guys

My 2018 ra has put down every focus, civic, vw, & just Friday a nismo 370z that has flexed......this was my first wrx and my first tuner that I bought instead of built and I couldn’t be happier!!! #171 of 500

AWESOME !!!!!

The type R was built to dominate at the track. And that it does sti is based off of rally racing still a phenomenal car that also kills on the track. The Ford on the other hand not a bad car just not my cup of tea. Looking past it being a honda but Id go with this new CTR only because of how it has been improved to really be a track beast.

Faster lap times are nice if that’s what you are after . BUT for me personally the grip and confidence that I get from 4 wheel driven cars especially in bad conditions , nothing worse than being stuck in few inches of snow, balance , handling and safety that AWD gives me is something that I love . Respect for Honda for getting the maximum out of front wheel drive and I understand why people love them so much but it’s not for me and then there are the looks … I am ok with the front half but the rear end it’s just ridiculous , embarrassingly overdone . I know everyone has their own taste and idea what is pretty but for me that is big NO .

Great review and I’m still get the RS

It's silly that the dated STi is still a benchmark today. Great car but it really needs an update besides some stiffening here and there. I know, before anyone brings it up, the GTR is almost ten years and still a benchmark, but consider how old the STi is at this point. Good review!

You should have called David Higgins for the Sub

U sir know what u are talking about have lots of knowledge ur among the few👏👏👌👍

This video basically told me to look into finding a decent focus rs since it has the best of both worlds with 45 more hp

On the R-Type; It's a good car. Ofcource it is. It's a Honda.

HONDA💪💪🇯🇵🇯🇵

Excellent show gentleman!!!

Another good one guys!