These cars where really crazy to drive. Pure mechanical power, extreme hard to handle and with a very "easy" tail of that monster of a car. It must be like riding a bullet and trying to change its direction. The carburators where adjusted for best performance in full throttle mode. Nothing else. Like to see these guys, who think it's not a good driver, failing in the first 100 meters. Respect for all the drivers,! great video!
I love how everybody is bitchin about the driving. Just because you can drive a gt 40 in gran turismo, doesn't mean you can drive a real one. 99% of you would spin out in the 1st corner. i think the guy does a pretty good job.
+Der Eggad Engine braking - ease the cluitch out and you get the benefit of some engine braking to help your poor squealing brakes a little! No extra braking when heel & toe shifting.
+Hercy Bird Not true. Engine braking still occurs when matching revs on the down shift. It does not come on abruptly thus upsetting the car as is demonstrated by this driver. Continuing this style of driving usually leads to snap oversteer in the brake zone and overheating transmissions/transaxles. He gets credit, however, just keeping this beast on the track. The GT40 I drove had a balky transaxle so that could be a contributing factor for him. I don't hear throttle blips so who knows?
Not only that, the psychological factor of breaking this car should be absolutely terrifying if you don't know how to do heel & toe technique or misshift. SimRacing can teach you pretty much everything but i believe the experience in a real car should be a complete knowledge by itself
Makes me laugh when people with no racing experience, criticize someone else's driving. i'd love to see you all try and keep a Classic Racing car like the GT40 pointing forward for 1 lap with out mistakes, let alone 6 hours. Awesome Vid
+geuros I mean, no doubt that it would go fast through Eau Rouge, but flat out? Not even GT3 cars do so and they've got modern aero and suspension. F1 and LMP1 go flat out through Eau Rouge, other open wheelers as well I think but that's where Eau Rouge flat out stops AFAIK.
Sorry but he missed all the apexes. Way too aggressive into the turns. The white car up ahead was driving perfect. I race in Vtec Club and Redline Time Attack. 6 Hour enduro in Czech Republic (Most).
Thanks for that - I thought it may have been a Matra or similar. Just been reading about it; fairly light weight and a gas turbine - no wonder it had some pretty serious straight-line speed (but a little slow out of some corners until that turbine was spinning properly).
Henrik Carlsen The gearing in the GT40 is really odd compared to other cars. Trust me, I’ve driven one.. In Forza Motorsport 7 with a Logitech wheel with manual shifting turned on.
Totally agree buddy 👍 My guess is he was afraid to really ring the neck of the car, probably not his and probably worth a freaking boatload of money. But who knows he could just be a second-rate driver as well.
Whoever is driving this car is doing an EXCELLENT job. These cars when pushed hard had a tendency to oversteer unpredictably, and this guy is wringing it's neck, and sliding the car only slightly. . . keeping her on the edge, but far from falling off the cliff. Well done.
all those reactions saying he is driving bad? the gt40 is really heavy to downshift and the back-end is very furious under braking. when doing that wrong the car would slide/spin very often, so he got the car under good control .. but you are maybe the kind of guys who dont even know your cars have actually front wheel drive :p
+wasuprobleemjoh Exactly what I am thinking - great downshift engine braking car control. Most the 'experts' on here saying he isn't heel/toeing wouldn't last one lap trying the same thing. If you actually look at the car - you would see he wouldn't even make most the corners if he didn't have the extra braking from dragging the clutch out on downshift with no rev match. The fact he keeps it perfectly under control while on the limit of rear grip at corner entry is awesome.
I only read your comment, not the others, but I watched the video; and yes this guy sucks as a pilot (trajectories, downshifts) It's so obvious... Looks like the only keyboard driver here is you. lulz
nope, the guy driving in the video is absolutely amateur. Bad shifts, bad sectors, missing the race line, can't brake worth shit. I've seen scca students drive better in their first course day.
Lovely to see these cars doing what they were actually built for -racing- not sitting in some museum locked away. The GT40 is one of the most beautiful racecars ever built and was a raw, brutal machine to master. He had a very hard time with that white Chapperall
I'm so jealous of this guy. To have the experience of road racing a Ford GT would just be the livin' end. Optimizing one of these cars must be so hard because there's so much power when the supercharger boosts to a certain level that it can actually break loose even after you've cleared your corner. I would just love have it for about 25 laps. Good work driver! That beast is a handful to drive. Love this video! :)
@@usmcvet0313 Oh, okay, I'm still jealous the carbureted is where I came from. Just to run such a car on road coarse would suit me right down to the ground! Thanks for the correction. :)
I race , here's what's happening: He's pretty good , maybe new to the car. Cornering, power , and proximity he does well. He should be rev-matching downshifts but he's not and it's sketchy. He's also trying to shift too quickly in general and power-shifting, as if that's going to save time...it just trashes the gearbox and causes missed shifts.... you can shift just as fast normally. Also , it took him a while to realize that he can't just keep trying to shift the way he wants to , it isn't working. Should take 1 mistake to know that either something is wrong with the car or I need to chill out. The wobbly steering wheel under braking is almost always because a rotor has a hot spot or is slightly warped/cracked.
100% agree and same here. I race also and he does a good job but he needs to learn heel/toe and rev matching. Newer cars its not such a big deal but in older ones its essential if you want to be smooth, fast and easy on the equipment. Hell, you could hear the rears locking up on downshifts on occasions. Even if he leaves the change down to later it would be better. he's just too brutal.
@Funky das antigas Catᴼᴿᴵᴳᴵᴻᴬᴸ The current F1 deserves to be bitching and not watched. I stop to watch 2 years ago, after they incorporate that ugly halo, and because the noise of the last years. Maybe if many people stop to watch they do something to become a beautiful sport again.
Funky das antigas Catᴼᴿᴵᴳᴵᴻᴬᴸ it was bad man but not because the racing entirely although most of them were so boring you gotta admit that but the cameras were just pointing at the lead where nothing was happeneing and not the midfield where it was exciting most of the times.
That car looks like a handful! I'm guessing you'd need to be a power lifter to manhandle the steering, brakes and clutch. Heh I'm wondering if that car is geared for Lemans or something. Sure seemed to have a tall first gear. I get the feeling he would be better off if he could drive through the tight corners with a slightly taller second gear. Also, looked like first gear wasn't in love being downshifting into (it doesn't have syncros, does it?). But hey, what do I know, I'm just an armchair quarterback. :-) Wonderful video! Thank you so much for the upload! waves from the U.S.A..
tscooter22 You only get 5 gears back then; so in order to have the best chance, you make them 'tall', as the slowest corners are about 40 mph. Most of these cars aren't driven regularly, so it's not like the driver is going to be as good as oh, someone who just did a thousand miles in it in practice. We get spoiled these days, with the in car cameras watching real pro's drive.
He is a good driver and anyone would be a nervous wreck tracking this priceless car nowadays. Surprising he isn't using heel toe at all, it would help a lot.
Thanks for this video and this moment 👍only one remark ... sometimes i think you are on the false gear in different corners but it's a pleasure to see this action. Happy new year
Los clasicos son lo maximo,puro sonido,puro olor a combustible con aditivos,cauchos quemados,chillidos de frenos ,virages y subvirages controlado a puño,sin abs ,sin computadoras,es un viaje en el tiempo,los 60 y 70 indudablemente fueran la epoca de oro del automovilismo.
Yes, he does need to look at sorting out his down change rev match, if the brakes take massive pedal pressure it's tough the heel and toe but it looks like he's not in the groove.
I own a GT40 and track it. they are a hand full but he needs to relax and use the next gear up in a lot of places, the speed is scaring him hence a lower gear in some corners. Once he gets his head around the speed on entry and exit he will relax.
Precisely The Howmet is down 100 HP on his Weslake Ford. He should not have to lift for Eau Rouge... And he's going to break that engine shifting! I was THERE 1964 -1973...Sebring and Daytona Lost interest with IMSA Funny Cars... Tech Editor @ Florida Racing News, out of Miami... 1972-1973 Arab Oil Crisis killed us! A BAD time! J.C.
It's remarkable to see this kind of _dicing_ for position between the GT40 and the Howmet; as such vintage motorsport events in the US would be a lot more sedate; more like a parade of cars on the race course.
Phenomenal car - old school. OK driving apart from downshifts - locking up the rears as he's not heel and toeing. Maybe there was a reason but it's a real gearbox and diff killer.
That Howmet turbine car was no slouch in a straight line back in the day as evidenced here with first a small block Ford and then later the T70 with what I'm assuming is a small block Chevrolet. Passed them both like they were stuck in gear. Which to be honest, the Ford was after Eau Rouge
Nice chase! wish I would have been there to see it! I was wondering, does the drivers "powershifts"?(not all the time, especially when the car isout from curves)bc there's a small "hop" in the revs when shifting up...
not lifting the gas when upshifting is what i used to do in my 115hp vw and honda so i would not lose any revs because they were such turds. is there a chance this car is a replica? some replicas like RCR gt40s do qualify for vintage races dont they?
His not blipping the throttle and going down 2 gears at a time on the downshift so he gets maximum braking from the engine. If you ever have an overheating brakes, this is the best way to reduce the issue.
To all the folks saying you shouldn't' mention his driving because you couldn't do any better - I wouldn't know, I've never driven a GT40 at all, nor ever will - what we are saying is that comparing this guy to a processional racer, this guy makes a LOT of mistakes, doesn't toe heel ever, as far as I can tell, and is just generally sloppy. Now it's quite possible he's the car owner and just an amateur driver; but watch some of the pros do this in GT40's at Goodwood, and the difference in skill levels are huge. Again, could I do better? I dunno, but I at least know how to heel toe properly in darned near anything.
The GT40 would dust the other car if driven correctly. Its like putting the stig in a mini cooper and a unexpirienced person in a Porsche. They might make similar times due to experience but the potential in the Porsche is way greater.
OK MIght not be Senna, Chumi, Villeneuve or Fangio, but he is in this beauty car while we are all here, behind our screens. So I will keep my comments to my self in regards of is driving skills.
It would be interesting to see this same driver after more seat time, I think he would improve, but at at this stage he is working hard to keep up to the car, a car that has very high limits, paddling furiously in the deep end so to speak. This is an awfully fast car to drive and unless your some great talent it take time to get real good at it. I actually teach this sort of thing and lots of people start out in cars that are way to fast for them, but given time and practice they get better.
That's a 1968 Howmet TX Turbine, one of two cars build by Ray Heppenstall and McKee Engineering. Historically relevant for being the only turbine powered car to ever win a sanctioned race (it actually won two races).
This Driver is doing a good job of conserving the car and maintaining a podium position. This track is Very tricky and the Monster that the GT40 was/is, is an absolute handful to drive, especially when driven at The Limit which he isn’t doing. Those bitching about his handling of the car obviously haven’t ever driven a real totally mechanic track car.
Obviously this guy isn't very good. I've never raced Gran Turismo. I'm working on my 68' Cougar with the 302 in it. Not sure I will ever race again or renew my license so I enjoy watching even when a driver isn't very fast. More power to him for still being able to race.
We thought so, back in The Day.... I was ( and am) a fan of Ferrari, in sports racing, but Ford GT-40 really was the deal... 1964-1965.... despite teething problems... The 427 powered Mk. II would dominate 1966 as would the Mk.IV of 1967... The Ferrari 330P3 and 330P4 would be only their equals.. but not more than that.... Despite their sexy LOOKS! MY all time favorite racers... Forza Ferrari!
That was a good dogfight. I like how he hung with that white car(What is it?) in the corners then got beat in the straights then caught him again in the corners.
I wonder what the story is behind his driving. Is he exhausted? is there a problem with the car? is the car just that way? or maybe it at this point in the race it just doesn't matter? Anyway, interesting and great footage.
2:46............. Dignified, respectful move by the 911 driver. These are "old" vehicles, few remain, so respecting each other and staying within decent limits allows for competition and fun
Will imo even if the driver did not have a high skills that much but at least he didn't roll it out of the track.. Cuz this car is so difficult to keep it under control.. It's like riding a wild horse and trying to keep it under control and running in same time.. He just need to take that gt to a Sunday track, drove it slowly, learning how to operate it and when and where he supposed to use heel toe, keep his shifting, down shifting and up shifting in some corners, knowing his racing line.. It's OK to get some assistance from a good couch and some books nothing embarrassing here..
Great video. Other than the GT Cobra the GT-40s are my dream cars. The driver worked it hard. It's a handful for certain. He did one hell of a job against faster cars. I would have been happy to run the course with out putting it in the fence. Nothing is better than the sound of a carbureted V8.
