Ford Mustang vs Chevy Camaro - Who won each decade? (1960s - TODAY)

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The Ford Mustang and Chevrolet Camaro are two of the most iconic American Muscle cars of all time, but which is better. Carroll Shelby’s GT500 or the Camaro ZL1 1LE? The Camaro IROC-Z, or the Mustang SSP? Which pony car had the better V8 Engine? Can Chevy’s 1LS beat the Ford Coyote 5.0? This video is the best place on the internet to find the answers.
Versus put two automotive giants toe to toe and Joey Rassool tallies up points to see who is the victor. Anything from heritage, performance, and even availability are taken into consideration.
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Комментарии : 21 тыс.

@nickmatteri7066 4 года назад

"Volkswagen vs. Environmental Law" You had me

@kenzogotladera9453 4 года назад

Deeeym. Got clapped hahaha

@st_us 4 года назад

Hanz, hol den Flammenwerfer!

@mavejonson9051 4 года назад

Didn’t they cheat on the gas omissions on the golf?

@derrickstorm6976 4 года назад

@@mavejonson9051 on everything

@dodger06100 4 года назад

💀💀

@Underpantswher 2 года назад

"The camaro is better than the mustang in literally every way, and thats why the mustang wins this round."

@iloveboobs1119 2 года назад

Chevys are dog crap in every way

@kadenhayes7751 2 года назад

@@iloveboobs1119 Bozos mad

@gurlypop639 2 года назад

@@iloveboobs1119 that's why Chevy beat mustang in every way🤣🤣

@iloveboobs1119 2 года назад

@@gurlypop639 well i would rather not be stuck on the side of the highway in a piece of crapcamaro

@ifyourmarriedyourasimpanda7440 2 года назад

@@iloveboobs1119 if you like mustang's so bad why don't you become a horse breeder ? Like I'd ever drive around in a car so unoriginal its named after another mode of transportation.

@Tanner_Teves Год назад

The scoring for the 60’s was crazy 😂. Dude literally talked about how the ZL1 Camaro spanked the GT 500 but still gave more points to the Mustang 😂

@lanemorrow7417 11 месяцев назад

The problem with Chevy *ick smokers is you all always talk about the same thing. The .5 or whatever second performance difference. Clearly the masses, market etc. do not care about that. If you look at total production numbers Mustang vs Camaro through their lives, you'll see that the Mustang trounces the Camaro which basically says that the public, overall performance etc. the Mustang is the better product. Yes, Chevy often stuffed bigger more powerful engines in but guess what. It didn't translate to the sales numbers.

@turtlboi2217 10 месяцев назад

Honestly they were both amazing vehicles, one started an entire lineage of cars and the other improved upon the original immensely how they didnt get 5 for each is beyond me

@crentz8387 10 месяцев назад

@@lanemorrow7417hate to break it to you but the Nissan Altima is better then your mustang because it’s bought way more, dumbass argument

@matthebert3179 10 месяцев назад

the camaro would even exist if the mustang didn't pave the way.

@LAPTRAFFICRACING 8 месяцев назад

@@lanemorrow7417 A. we do not talk about the same thing we have many topics, LS engines, new releases, and, how disrespectful people can be, are just examples here B. the Mustang and Camaro are on an even level, similar engines, same class of car, similar market. C. and yeah bigger vroom vroom does not mean bigger stacks of ching ching but it's about having fun in your car, young people (which both cars were made for) like to have fun in any car as does any car enthusiast.

@kaisenjitsu1364 Месяц назад

“Do you know how long 20 seconds is? It’s this long” a random 20 sec ad popped up on my screen💀💀💀 I was baffled

@Christopher._M 2 года назад

Combining the 2000's with 2010's was not a good move.

@zombiestressin5242 2 года назад

Neither was having the camero gone for 8 yrs

@stevenwilliams1805 2 года назад

Don't forget Chevy didn't even bother promoting one of America's best sport sedans, that they named after a trim package.

@youngkuzan7234 2 года назад

@@scottsanchez2527 nobody is reading that college essay, the yall lose. Better luck next time if mustang does not take over the muscle car business. XD

@scottsanchez2527 2 года назад

@@youngkuzan7234 🤷‍♂️ thats your opinion and Ford is discontinuing cars hopefully they keep mustangs cause how else would we maintain a stable population yk we need population control.

@youngkuzan7234 2 года назад

@@scottsanchez2527 good point and you not getting press about what I said is pretty cool, have a good day or night

@kdmag8858 4 года назад

I wasn't aware a decade could last 20 years.

@whatareyoudoingyouidiot342 4 года назад

I dunno. These last couple months feel like they've taken a decade or so.

@Jimrlst 4 года назад

The camaro was reintroduced in 2010 wich would give the mustang a too big of a lead after the 00s

@guillermopacheco5005 4 года назад

Probably cause the Camaro didn’t exist for a chunk of one of those decades

@R.B.90 4 года назад

He should have gave Ford points for being the only one still around in the 2000s and then moved on to the 2010s.

@R.B.90 4 года назад

Also the 2000s mustang is clearly different than the 2010s mustang in every way. Compare that 2005 mustang to a shelby gt500 idk how he can say that's the same era of car.

@forrestranger4727 Год назад

Funnily enough, transformers is what got me into Camaros as well!😂 But to this day, I still actually would love to have the ‘77 model over the later!

@icetee6559 Год назад

Same 😂 bumble bee turned me to a Camaro lover. Today I dream of owning both the zl1 1le & the z28 2 of my dream cars loll. But realistically I’m waiting for the farewell package I’m hoping the last Camaro bring something VERY special! 😭

@Fir3Fume Год назад

I own two camaros because of transformers.

@Will502x 11 месяцев назад

I have a 77

@franciscogreau777 5 месяцев назад

79 is better I own one black yellow rally stripe 350 lose the bracelet keep them straight on 77 which is awesome if you know what I mean buddy happy holidays 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

@cptchuff2741 4 месяца назад

@@franciscogreau777would u recommend a 2nd Gen Camaro?

@user-vr1im9di6i 11 месяцев назад

Chevy and Dodge can both Thank Ford for keeping the Mustang around and bringing back old school styling in 2005, reigniting a new muscle car generation.

@prophetsnow5193 22 дня назад

And they gonna thank them in a few years when electric doesn’t work for them and they bring V8’s back

@garrettvcayer 3 года назад

Dude: “The Camaro is better.” Dude again: *And that’s why the Mustang gets more points.*

@k9herotheboss446 3 года назад

Facts

@mtndewmatt9999 3 года назад

YES😂💀

@Antonio-bd2vw 3 года назад

He’s wearing a GT shirt so I already knew he was going to give the most points to the Mustangs😂 Cobra is bad ass and all but the Dodge Ghoul Challenger 1000+ and Demon beats the competition nowadays

@quadritious4551 3 года назад

Ikr

@dawsoncormier4834 3 года назад

Facts😂

@nickr2351 3 года назад

“I’ll try to be unbiased” Gives mustang 5 points after constantly talking about how the Camaro won the decade

@traceswann7054 3 года назад

I like how the fact Ford is releasing a crossover electric """Mustang""" was conveniently left off of the list. should have been a -3 points right there

@k1ngmonsey 3 года назад

Imma ford guy buh I’m with u on that😭😭😭

@gregga.b.4510 3 года назад

Can I also say that the camaro also helped land fighter jets

@gregga.b.4510 3 года назад

@jackson meads yes it actually did and it was the same plane as the mustang did but the camaro did it for the 4th and 5th generations I would send a picture but I can’t

@rayhanrizvi334 3 года назад

@Lakshya Mishra honestly, i think it should have been a tie tbh. their both great cars. 5 points was fair for starting a new type of cars tbh but they should have been tied, especially in the modern era

@carusic0000 Год назад

16:04 ..everyone sees a yellow camaro and says it bumblebee but no one saw a police mustang and said its barricade lol .........i started loving camaros bcz of transformers and loves it till now

@minionedifier7776 Год назад

Barricades mustang is all moded to fit a police car and he not as popular so it kinda makes sense

@thedurokknight Год назад

I liked barricade a lot more 🤣

@40nakedniggasonahugespacecraft Год назад

I do

@weseethetruth158 Год назад

Real transformers fans know bumblebee is a VW bug...🤷‍♂️💯

@Sprchgjeep Год назад

Barricade was also a Saleen.

@DOPEMUSICNOW 11 месяцев назад

“For the mustang existing, im going to give it 16 points.” “And for the Camaro being one of the best muscle cars ever, im going to give it 1 point.”

@MegaSaints55 4 года назад

Anyone who starts off with "I'm going to try to be unbiased." Is already biased

@tysavage8248 4 года назад

Harry Falkenberg the second he said that I knew mustang took the win

@shadyyyy 4 года назад

Ill be unbiased and say both suck and muscle cars are pointless

@DevinEMILE 4 года назад

Its Shadow I mean they are not muscle cars but okay. Also they are not pointless. Anything that can make someone have fun or enjoy themselves are not pointless

@oatmealenthusiast4330 4 года назад

This comment is full of salty kids. JDM cars have always been putting out more power and have always been faster.

@roxanasanchez5816 4 года назад

@@oatmealenthusiast4330 but they have to be tuned / upgraded..... Because out of factory they r pretty slow compared to mustangs and camaros.

@wadedungan3172 4 года назад

"I'm going to separate the car into decades!" *Puts the 00's and 10's in one category*

@VIccs826 4 года назад

Wade Dungan doesn’t make a lot of sense to make a 2000’s category. The Camaro was gone from 2002-2009. Would’ve been an easy win for the Mustang due to lack of competition from Chevy

@Thunderstruck170 4 года назад

@@VIccs826 the Mustang was there for 3 years longer in the 60s too. Camaro was easily better in 2002 and when it was reintroduced. But Mustang would have gotten more points for basically getting the market back to profitability.

@gal6537 4 года назад

Yeah it’s called twentycade

@smoke-on-thetires7922 4 года назад

Wade Dungan ya they really should have separated at least the 2014 from the 2000’s as it is the car that actually brought back the coyote as well as destroyed the camaro in top speed.

@andmicbro1 4 года назад

Yeah, we really needed to separate the '00s from the '10s. Mustang would have still won that round, but I think Camaro has made some gains in the '10s, so it would have been good to distinguish between the decades. Overall I think Camaro dominated the '10s performance-wise, though clearly Mustang outsold the Camaro once again, especially toward the end of the decade. I the end, "best" is subjective. For me, I've always been a Mustang fan and it will always be the ultimate winner in my heart. But I also can't deny the performance of the Camaro, and it has consistently gotten high marks. The styling was never my cup of tea, and the visibility has suffered from the design-first philosophy, but the IRS and the chassis have always been high points for the Camaro as well. Going forward the 2020 GT500 has really see a new bar, and I'm interested to see what Camaro does next. Though the styling needs a redesign in my book, they could really improve the interior visibility and move away from the concept design a little more. I'm not a big fan of the recent refresh and I wish they'd be a little more adventurous.

@Iliketoburnstuff-ni1lr Год назад

Made me realise both cars legacy but the points kinda got me confused

@spoons923 Год назад

As a die hard lover of my mustang, I just have love and respect for everyone with a pony car that brings them joy and a good attitude

@cobygogarty7365 Год назад

I ride a.stallion not a pony,

@Thecarguy69-wz4gh 11 месяцев назад

What year is it

@Ryan-vu5xo 3 года назад

"Here's why the camaro is better" gives mustang more points

@akutapluto8645 3 года назад

Do you know what a opinion you cants say something’s better

@Brian-cr1ep 3 года назад

Kendog2.o Gaming dude your like six with that English and Ford has crayon eaters I’d rather have dodge vs chevy

@dillionjohnson7706 3 года назад

Basically the whole video lol

@dillionjohnson7706 3 года назад

@@timmyrehanek9576 you're like 12 yrs old right

@dillionjohnson7706 3 года назад

@@timmyrehanek9576 .... wut?

@brechtdelaet6495 4 года назад

ford: makes a electric suv and sticks a mustang badge on it. chevy and dodge: confused noises

@zacharymessner6157 4 года назад

dagelijks te laten videos chevy changes the blazer to look like an SUV Camaro.....no stop it bad chevy thank god they didn’t follow ford and slap a Camaro badge on it

@YuShawStang 4 года назад

I hate Mitsubishi doing so on Eclipse and EVO as well. Can't you name these soccer moms' transportation the other names ? 🤬

@99ZondaS 4 года назад

GM: *laughs in hummer*

@davidhenneberg6772 4 года назад

Hsin why evo, its not a lancer so most things are all right. But yes, the eclipse thing is ... I better don’t say that

@ryantoner8132 4 года назад

Its the nest mustang so far. Mach E

@ComputerTrainer101 8 месяцев назад

I think the 69 camaro was the best for styling. Always wanted one. When I was in my teens everyone had one. Now, I have no clue what one would be worth in order to get a fair deal. I would just want one that was fixed up, and not original.

@rw1557 Год назад

I've owned: 66 Mustang 83 Mustang 89 Mustang 94 Mustang Cobra 98 Mustang Steeda 2007 Mustang GT500 85 Camaro Iroc Z 87 Camaro Iroc Z They were ALL fun cars

@damiansfuneral 4 года назад

Me, a ford fan: This is an easy win Me after seeing the 70s catagory and remember the Mustang II: We lost

@stevenlopez5832 4 года назад

Damian L yea but then you look at the 2010's and the Camaro was pretty much non-existent.

@superxDification 4 года назад

mustang ii electric boogaloo

@shawnprickett4099 4 года назад

wasn't the best year but they failed to mention the king cobra my dad had one they came with a 351 made like 300hp he loved it they were light and smoked the tire off.

@YuShawStang 4 года назад

He could stretch more about my Childhood favorite show Knight Rider. KITT is bascially the twin of Camaro. But I bought a Mustang eventually.

@stevenlopez5832 4 года назад

Shawn Prickett I'm if your talking about a mustang II king cobra those made more like 140hp. You're dad's would have been heavily moded to make 300hp

@watearus 4 года назад

Mustang and camaro fans: *Arguing in the side* Challenger: *Chugs a beer* (edit im asian mah dudes dont argue with me)

@ultraguy8771 4 года назад

Coffee with muscle cars? I hope you meant beer.

@drewdigby7434 4 года назад

Theres a reason bad guys drive Challengers; They're cooler. I "Challenge" you to prove me wrong.

@derrickstorm6976 4 года назад

Coffee is acceptable

@javajack9197 4 года назад

HIPHIP!

@FBISHOJI 4 года назад

Sips a beer

@brendonfleetwood6069 Год назад

Volkswagen vs environmental laws. Brilliant

@ricardoaguilar474 4 года назад

The point system aside, I feel like the 2000s and the 2010s should really each be their own decade, especially since we’ve started the new 2020 decade

@mid-s_to_earlysViBEZ 4 года назад

Ricardo Aguilar exactly...

@alexandergrigorov2324 4 года назад

2020 is the last year of the previous decade

@jameslowrey8419 4 года назад

@@alexandergrigorov2324 how do you figure? It is always 0-9, hence 2010-2019, 2020-2029, etc...decades start with the 0 year not 1

@thegenerousdegenerate9395 4 года назад

2000-ford 2010-chevy

@thegenerousdegenerate9395 4 года назад

@@jameslowrey8419 nunh unh... Every new decade on new years we get all excited cause theres 1 more year till the new decade! Just gotta get the one with the 0 outta the way first! Happy almost new years! Lmao Some peoples children... I tell ya... Lol

@mustang8206 4 года назад

This man really combined the 2000s and 2010s into one decade

@thomasj1026 4 года назад

There was no Camaro from 2002-2009. You want the mustang to have a free round?

@demongawl 4 года назад

thomasj1026 Yes actually, Chevy decided to stop production of the Camaro. That’s not on the Mustang, why should it lose an entire decade of points. Besides, Camaro still would’ve lost that decade as Mustang had the Terminator, the S197 which literally defined the look of muscle cars for the next decade, and the Shelby GT500. Even if the Camaro had come out with some cool shit, the best they could’ve gotten was 5 to 4. The was easily one of most impactful decades for the Mustang.

@silentplays9808 4 года назад

@@demongawl true, but we can all agree. the 90 mustangs sucked lol. 215hp. My turbocharged 4 cylinder makes 270 lol. (not a mustang or camaro)

@juggl5720 4 года назад

@@silentplays9808 you right. i mean 215hp in 1970-1980s yeah aight but a mustang with that shitty hp 1990? get out ford

@levimoore6567 4 года назад

thomasj1026 yes the decade still exists and the camero wasn’t there. Just because camero ran back to the whole it belongs for a while doesn’t mean we don’t talk about the mediocre mustangs that still happened

@dmvelocity5181 8 месяцев назад

So a few things. The 6th gen zl1 1le wasnt the first time the camarowas beating super cars at the ring. The 5th gen z28 still to this day has a better lap time than many super cars at the time and even some base models that are newer. The 5th gen ss was also used for u2 landing and the camarl has been the car of choise for nascat safety car for a long long time now.

@Brolic__nerd 8 месяцев назад

Watching these videos you realize how far cars have come. Until 2000 none of them made the power of a 2020 4cyl.

@patrickturner4868 3 года назад

“I’m gonna try to be unbiased” -immediately starts out biased 😂

@JustAstroThings 3 года назад

How?

@wasru. 3 года назад

@@JustAstroThings I think he means he recapped that the camaro was better in every single way in the 60s but ford had the idea first so they got more points

@leoolivares3261 3 года назад

@@wasru. they got more points because they set a record high for sales

@lucasavelar5017 3 года назад

@@leoolivares3261 yeah, but isn't he talking about performance of the car?? Market share shouldn't be an important matter in that discussion. The only thing that matters is performance

@lesquire242 3 года назад

@@lucasavelar5017 Well it matters that the car was a massive success too, If they only sold a couple thousand the Camaro would have gotten points because it would have been way more successful

@k.tucker2011 Год назад

It's funny how mustang earned 5 points due to sales but when Camaro was leading in sales it gained 3 points. Biased anyone ?

@havelthedeadinside1799 Год назад

The guy owns a mustang, so I feel a little biased

@ushijimas_long_neck1555 Год назад

Well the Camaro is owned by inbreds so there’s that. Don’t get so butthurt over an opinion video sonny.

@Ruggid111 Год назад

The GT shirt kinda reveals everything

@lstchance87 Год назад

5 points for setting an "all time sales record" not for just leading. There is a huge difference.

@lstchance87 Год назад

@@Ruggid111 it's cute that when you see GT you think Mustang as if it stands for nothing else but Mustang. The bias is yours and yours alone. BTW his shirt is about the GT race series.

@villedamx 11 месяцев назад

I'm a Mustang guy, but I think the results are unfair. They should be equal. Both cars are amazing and each car is unique.

@Ser04SpecV 2 месяца назад

How do you create this video without bringing up the terminator? Just curious.

@13thundercracker 13 дней назад

There was no Camaro during the time of the Terminator, nothing to compare it to.

@tew6 4 года назад

“Volkswagen vs environmental law” 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@andyseja3236 4 года назад

'VW v Enviornment' 😂

@bretlebeter7379 4 года назад

tew6 haha

@marconeill3883 4 года назад

I love vw and that had me crying btw people got it all wrong vw didn’t lie

@TheBaronVonBarron 4 года назад

That got me. I laughed out loud 😂😂😂

@lugnut59 4 года назад

tew6 Dieselgate who? Lol...

@chrisross2677 4 года назад

Mentions: Shelby and RTR Roush : Am I a joke to you No Saleen cause they make more than just stangs and other Fords

@stvmassacre 4 года назад

The Shelby is a Roush configuration, along with the Boss Mustang. That wasn't mentioned either. This guy was lacking the whole video.

@chasejordan22 4 года назад

Roush was always the ultimate pony car in my opinion. I am biased though Ive met Jack Roush twice in his hometown which is about 20 minutes from mine. But we shant forget Saleen either.

@adriang227 4 года назад

Chris Ross Saleen 😳

@jdmdennis9763 4 года назад

Don’t forget Saleen too

@wolfgvming5855 4 года назад

Saleen: am I nothing to you?

@cmkeelDIM 25 дней назад

MY first car was an 84 Fox. 4 banger, bad paint, and a sunroof. By the time It went away, I had rollcaged and subframed it, k-swapped it, and big blocked it. It finally left me with 570hp/620tq, full tubbs, and one bad ass Mustang. Regret having to sell it everyday. My 80 Z28 ended up with a 440hp/510tq Mk IV, rollcage and tubbs. Not much regret with that car sale. Miss the days...

@sethr.c1065 9 месяцев назад

I come back to remember how Ford and Chevy are so focused on rivalry that they forgot about Nissan.

@topiasr628 4 года назад

2020 and beyond: The mustang gets 0 points for becoming a crossover and EV

@justinanderson181 4 года назад

Mike Jacobsen the Camaro is gonna get 0 points for being killed off in the coming years so I guess we both lose

@mattbroussard7409 4 года назад

Pwahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!! Nice

@Ahmed4th 4 года назад

@Mike, that's exactly what I was thinking. @Justin, it's better to retire as a muscle car than to keep going as a fat crossover. I'm a Chevy fan, but IMHO, the last gen Mustang looks way better than the Camaro.

@crissto8591 4 года назад

@@Ahmed4th the mach-e is like the panamera to porshe's 911. Both there for different crouds

@Wingedbull751 4 года назад

EV will run circles around a Chevy ALL DAY LONG

@MindBeyondtablets 3 года назад

This man blinked 3 times through out the entire video.

@F90ronny63 3 года назад

How do you notice that 😂

@gavinschur1422 3 года назад

I tried to blink when he did. I failed

@tristanheaton2127 3 года назад

American cars suck European car are best

@aftermath_crew912 3 года назад

@@tristanheaton2127 what’s that got to do with anything

@tristanheaton2127 3 года назад

@@aftermath_crew912 lol idk I just want my hot takes out there

@kenzotenma3812 2 месяца назад

I've always been a Ford guy as I've owned 3 mustangs in my life 2000 GT, 2007 GT and 2012 ROUSH (currently). But I've always loved the 2011 SS Camaro's aggressive look and design, it's seriously one of the best looking sport cars ever made. Deep inside I wanted one at that time.

@TheRaptorWranglerCreates 10 месяцев назад

-What will this decade bring(lists all the stuff) -Camaro left the chat

@phil56892 4 года назад

Lol I’m not arguing with the end result but your random point system was a joke!

@brandonleather9426 4 года назад

Notwhou Thinkiam agreed. I’m a Mustang guy, so glad to see it come out on top, but the point system was all over the place.

@DevinEMILE 4 года назад

He gave the Camaro points for literately being made after the mustang.

@mikefalle7910 4 года назад

Thought i was watching Food Network Buddy vs Duff for a minute..lol

@phil56892 4 года назад

@@DevinEMILE points for participating lol

@battlecry3333 4 года назад

When they did the first episode "Evo VS Sti" I thought ok this point system is dumb but let's see if they fix it. We'll shit they didn't. In order to not piss anyone off they make up excuses to give one more point than the other, that way at the end they can say: "It's up to the viewer to figure out which is the better car". It's a lazy way for them to get more people to comment and engage so they can get noticed by the algorithm.

@iantyles 4 года назад

I love how they lump the last 20 years into a decade...

@tylerbradford6437 4 года назад

When the most significant technology advances are happening in these years also

@benbagley6103 4 года назад

The reason is that the Camaro didn't release until 2010 after being discontinued in 2002, making the Camaro practically meaningless in that era, giving the Mustang probably too many points going into the next round.

@texaslh9 4 года назад

Well the Camaro would have been out for most of the 2000-2010 decade so the mustang would have taken a massive lead for being pretty much the only one. But that's on Chevy for being lame so the mustang should have at least 20 points.

@tylerbradford6437 4 года назад

Then in my opinion, you lump the 90s and 2000s together

@TFallenAngle 4 года назад

The most exciting and competitive time as well, ignoring late 60s and early 70s

@joseeleazar1749 Год назад

At the 9:07 mark, It’s funny how right after he said “this is how slow 20 sec is” literally a 20 sec Ad popped up.

@jasonbtw3272 Год назад

100,000 more sales and only get 1 more point, 2 in total???💀😂

@FastCarsNoRules220 4 года назад

Honestly I feel you should've done the 2000s, 2010s and 2020s separately instead of just one section.

@Zeph14r 4 года назад

FastCarsNoRules220 video by the decades: Lumps together 2000s 2010s and 2020....

@MrRichiarditya 4 года назад

2020's hasnt ended yet lmao

@hillbillyhomeboy4121 4 года назад

And the 70s like the Mach 1 had more power than the mustang 2

@bravosfan2510 4 года назад

Then Chevy would've gotten 0 points for the 2000's since the Camaro went away. I'm pretty sure that's why he lumped them together

@Realvictorleon 4 года назад

We’re still in 2020 fool

@sebastianhuff6109 4 года назад

I feel like the Camaro is overshadowed by the corvette especially recently

@BT_aka_PET_ROOSTER 4 года назад

Convicted03 ! I agree, you should add the Mustang and Challenger to that list too.

@maxwellbrown7118 4 года назад

Camaros might be scrapped in 2023 because of their sales. They used to be number 2 behind the Mustang but they fell behind Dodge Challengers. BTW Corvettes aren't muscle car they are supercars if you didn't know.

@Cofel_-z 4 года назад

Maxwell Brown corvettes are just now being turned into supercars since they’re mid engine, when they were front mounted engine they were just sports cars

@matthewvarnam4302 4 года назад

@@Cofel_-z yeah you right about that. Isn't Chevy gonna stop making the Mid Engine Corvette. And also ether Ford mustang or the Chevy Camaro one or other is supposed to be making them 800 hp electric cars. I just hope they don't do that cause to me it will just flat out suck. Who wants a electric muscle car that doesn't have that nice sounding cam I sure don't. And I will never ever own a muscle car that's electric sorry I just can't do that. And a nother thing you can't call it a American muscle car anymore if you change it to electric. Just thought I would throw that in to....lol

@VTLIFE-so4dc 4 года назад

Apples to oranges comparison bud. Corvette is a two seat sports car, Camaro is not.

@MrCdubb. 9 месяцев назад

I’m a Camaro/Chevy type of person but I still do like ford and mustangs

@thefantabulousjackson4353 Год назад

Bro he didn't even talk about the Z28 2015 with the LS7 that thing was so fuckin sick

@themosesfactor7235 5 месяцев назад

I love how they left out how Mustangs stopped production temporarily in the 80s and didn't deduct points from Mustang like they did Camaro

@tcb_666 4 года назад

"... The father of Pony cars, The Mustang..." Plymouth Barracuda: *Am I a joke to you?*

@flyingmako 4 года назад

There's a reason they are called Pony cars and not Fishy cars.

@WALTERBROADDUS 4 года назад

@@flyingmako Nice!😂

@gionotreal 4 года назад

Christian Pankow n o

@cudaman2formula874 4 года назад

@Alex The Camaro is about to die again lol

@andreanp3816 4 года назад

*Sad v8 noises *

@xyithan9128 4 года назад

Buys Camaro: Hits the track Buys Mustang: Hits the crowd

@treyscott3237 4 года назад

Shit you must not be a good driver then 🤷‍♂️

@lrhlrh5570 4 года назад

Do yall not get the joke??????

@bri-manhunter2654 4 года назад

Curios, but do you know why people wreck them. It’s called a uni body with lots of torque, doesn’t work well. First mod on all my mustangs has been sub frame connectors and gears.

@ThisWorldShallKnowPain. 4 года назад

lrh lrh yes cuz mustangs have more power and camaro drivers underestimate them

@winwinniewinfield 4 года назад

best comment so far hahhaha

@TheGibsonPlayer 8 месяцев назад

As a Mustang owner, I do have to say, that Camaro is awesome as well :) Why compare and argue, when we can simply enjoy their beauty and speed.

@adimart2214 6 месяцев назад

Two All American Cars, both great, loved the 50s cars of both brands, much better than anything any other country brands have made.

@chicobeanieakagio7202 4 года назад

I love how we skipped when Ford made the Gt500 and the car is in the movie Need for Speed and the Gt500 Super Snake and GT350R then the 2013 Camaro ZL1 and the 2014 Camaro Z28

@mayaswelltryit...8327 4 года назад

Yeah this guy definitely isn't very good in the research department. And that's pretty bad for his show being "______ vs ______". Accuracy and depth of information is pretty important.

@atrgames 4 года назад

I felt like wanted to keep the battle between base models or main models. And I was the hole time saying where is Shelby...

@layton8851 4 года назад

Not mad at him for it but ot does suck, and the forst zl1 was 2012

@tvfcobra5884 4 года назад

And he didn't really mention the 03 Cobra... 🤔

@OwenXW 4 года назад

Also the 1970 Camaro z/28, highest horsepower year for 2nd gens and it was a beast

@checkthisoutt 2 года назад

Him: talks about how the Camaro beat Ford in every way, Continues to give Ford more points Flashback: "I'm not going to be biased"

@bingbippo1073 2 года назад

But it doesn’t matter the og mustang invented the muscle/pony car that’s why it won

@P5Fan22 2 года назад

@@bingbippo1073 it absolutely did not. The GTO did

@EnzoNotFerrari21 2 года назад

@@P5Fan22 at least he was trying his best not to be biased tho

@EnzoNotFerrari21 2 года назад

@@P5Fan22 well the camaro will never exist without the mustang tho

@P5Fan22 2 года назад

@@EnzoNotFerrari21 yeah I agree but still

@frankthetank5671 10 месяцев назад

“It’s crazy to think neither the IROC-Z or the SSP were offered with a manual transmission” My brother in christ did you even research

@samuelmcgregor7686 11 месяцев назад

"Mustang single-handedly started a the muscle car segment." Pontiac GTO- Am I joke to you?

@alejandrorodriguezsanchez1525 4 года назад

2000's and 2010's could have been separated they are two different decades

@sithlord2225 4 года назад

Yeah but it wouldn't be much of a competition then, the Mustang pretty much dominated the decade

@jaytrock3217 4 года назад

Ford should lose points for all those dumbasses coming out of car shows crashing. 00 and early 10s

@alejandrorodriguezsanchez1525 4 года назад

Sithlord2225 the 2000’s you mean

@alejandrorodriguezsanchez1525 4 года назад

Jay Trock got a point there

@96impalaboi37 4 года назад

@@sithlord2225 so you think the 2005 ford gt would dominate the 2002 camaro ss?

@tacocat1844 Год назад

"I'm going to try to not be biased about this." "This round goes to the Mustang because the Camaro did better." - paraphrase

@lancemiller9110 Год назад

Hahahahaha Exactly what I thought

@k.tucker2011 Год назад

So tired of popularity defeating wisdom and logic. Smh aka I agree

@GrammerOfficer Год назад

🤣🤣🤣

@InuranusBrokoff Год назад

They had to reach hard to make this even close, all GM really had was the 70's, 94-98, and 2010.

@k.tucker2011 Год назад

@@InuranusBrokoff actually gm has always been very competitive when dealing with ford. Occasionally Winning in all areas. What made ford stand apart was their special edition cars. They just had more hype for some reason. They weren't necessarily better all the time.

@_BACONSSSSSSSSSSSSS Год назад

i actually remember the camaro winning though, i guess im experiencing the mandela effect

@DaSaintDemon 7 месяцев назад

Im a Mustang guy but i sense that it needed to have a 2010 section since it had several generations that needed to be evaluated different.

@bradyg499 4 года назад

I’m a Mustang guy but there’s so much to love about Camaros too

@motodudes8787 4 года назад

I'm a huge camaro guy but there are also things to love about the mustang

@Sevan_UP 4 года назад

Ethan Ostrom I’m a mustang and camaro guy, but there’s so much to love about dodge too 😂

@jonesboxers 4 года назад

Man you at all so nice I personally like the Camaro and dont know any mustang I'd want to own

@InternalAffairs244 4 года назад

I'm a Chevy guy, but I just like fast cars, Mustangs included

@gop4usa12 4 года назад

I've been partial towards Ford my whole life. I have owned almost nothing but Ford's and always thought I would buy a Mustang some day. But much to the surprise of everyone around me (including myself), I placed a deposit on a new Camaro. What can I say? Camaro's look so damn good.

@daison96 4 года назад

Moral of the story: Everyone benefits from competition.

@josemigueljr 4 года назад

YES

@spartan4196 4 года назад

Economics in a nutshell

@TheSeanSaid 4 года назад

Not necessarily true. Pretty sure Boeing have some regrets on the 737 Max 8.

@chrismarco17 4 года назад

Sean Bailey Fair point. That is a fairly solid exception.

@sanurawat1651 4 года назад

Communist crying in the dark

@juzernejm106 Год назад

I believe this sums it up: "a battery-electric Mustang based on the Mach-E's platform will make its debut about mid-2028 to replace what will be the last internal-combustion model"

@Sneakycamaro Год назад

I’ve owned both a ‘13 Mustang GT and ‘13 Camaro SS. Both were black and convertible and around the same mileage when I got them. The mustang got totaled and when I was gonna replace it the selection they had at the dealer ship were in poor condition but before I left to look else where I found the Camaro and was curious about it so I took it for a test drive and I fell in love with it. It felt more robust and I noticed it’s superior 0-60. And I loved the style more. Needless to say I’m a Camaro guy now but sometimes I miss ol’ Sally

@jellyfruit3485 4 года назад

Title: 'stang vs. camaro Fighting for:best muscle car..... Dodge challenger: sad v8 noises

@marcojordan1368 4 года назад

Camaro v8

@evodriver6325 4 года назад

😂😂😂

@anhhung8881 4 года назад

to young go back to kindergarden

@Brandonmntoya 4 года назад

you remember the first race in 2 Fast 2 Furious when Brian was so far ahead that Suki and Orange Julius were just having their own race way in the back? yeah, Brian was Dodge and Suki and OJ were Mustang and Camaro.

@dvuksan8547 4 года назад

Dodge is the best i think

@travioli5118 4 года назад

It blows my mind how they decided to entertain everyone with a history lesson about both amazing cars and then leaves out half of the history for each car

@OmruKnight 4 года назад

Or that he made very valid points about the camaro being better and gave more points to the mustang, and left out half of the important stuff. Like the mustang E what ever came out in 2019 as an suv

@brycerush98 4 года назад

They have up to speed episodes for both which are more in depth, video would’ve been about 45 minutes long if they did that for this, which is not good for views.

@re-crafted2993 4 года назад

if you want a full history of each you could allways watch the " up to speed" episodes on each? here is the one for the camero --- ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-I658CGLf8D4.html and here is the one for the mustang -- ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-kEEgnCqfCXU.html enjoy!

@sergeantwolf8018 4 года назад

For more information, please see James pumfrey and his up to speed videos😆

@shredgardo 4 года назад

watch the up to speed lmao

@rodneyhudson2814 Год назад

Texas DPS had a camaro pursuit car in Hockley Co. It was a standard shift. I know. I was a student in the auto collision repair program and got to drive it in and out of the building. Fixed the dent and painted it too!

@Yes-or1dw 7 месяцев назад

Lets be honest both cars are SICK AS FUCK but dont let anyone tell you which car to buy. Buy whatever one you want because either way you go. You be ripped off.

@matthews2874 4 года назад

“I’m gonna try my best to not be biased” the 60’s Camaros embarrassed the mustangs and outperformed them “5 points for the mustang”

@erwinklassen8603 4 года назад

Your statement is based on the muscle car guy argument. Companies base the success of a car based on sales, not performance stats. Camaros were built to outperform mustangs and did so consistantly. Ford almost always sold more cars. Mustang started as a sports coupe (sort of like a miata) until camaro and firebird came along. GM essentially created the muscle car craze with "pony" cars. (like they did with the mid size cars) In the end though, without the mustang the camaro wouldn't exist. Not that this point system makes any sense.. but they do get some. Lol

@sstevocamaro 4 года назад

@Matthew S I was like WTF when I heard him say that.. lol

@sstevocamaro 4 года назад

@Erwin Klassen Yea the Mustangs was cheaper and was marketed for women.. The Mustang didn’t get serious until the Camaro came out..

@KingInky13 4 года назад

@@erwinklassen8603 But this isn't a video about which car sold more per decade, it's about a head to head comparison on the cars as a whole. To say "the Camaro was better in just about every way, but the Mustang was first, therefore the Mustang gets a higher score" is just asinine.

@spookcityghouls 4 года назад

@@sstevocamaro worked on my mom back in the day lol. Red 64.5 that she kept mint till the 80s, then my dad made her get rid of it bc he didn't want it sitting next to his 63 Vette lol

@kindellhutchins5653 4 года назад

if the point system was explained this would be better but there’s like no explanation for this random ass point system

@doihavetomakeaname9777 4 года назад

Agree, even have the point system, it should given 1 point every versus

@nachtkampfer1216 4 года назад

he should of broke down the points. in something like sales, reliability, ect.

@ragequitter 4 года назад

It’s out of 5, like how people rate movies

@Zankaroo 4 года назад

@@ragequitter Yeah that is obvious, they are wanting reasons for the points or better reasons, because honestly the 60s was shit for the Mustang by comparison, the Mustang was a "secretaries car" until Ford the 2nd got Shelby to fix it. And then the Camaro still had a more powerful engine. Starting the pony car segment would be credited to Ford not the Mustang itself, and it did not make the pony car segment famous around the world by itself, there a lot of other pony cars that helped. Can't use that against the Camaro that GM executives didn't think of it first. So -1 to the Mustang because it was a poop car until Shelby got involved and then -1 because it still didn't have as much power. I would give a total of 2 points for selling a shit ton, and 1 point for how good the Shelby cars were for a total of 3 points.

@hobbypyromane2.05 4 года назад

Danny Hampton I agree. If you would compare the first ever motorcycle helmet with the best helmet we have today, you wouldn’t rate the first helmet better because it was the first.

@seraphim9429 21 день назад

I thank my dad for introducing me to cars, but I thank Keanu Reeves, Nicolas Cage, Steve McQueen and Aaron Paul for making me love the Mustang.

@skiphebert8494 8 месяцев назад

you forgot about the 1967 427 Mustang with 390hp

@vysyrah3711 4 года назад

This man said that the camaro destroyed the mustang in every way in the 60’s, yet gave the category to the mustang because of sales 😆

@gpaje 4 года назад

Kinda matters right, even now, the Camaro is selling so slowly it's may not make it to the next gen.

@planetfade2522 4 года назад

gpage you do know they stopped camaro production right ?

@itsKeMonte 4 года назад

Planet Fade not until 2023

@xarocknrollax 4 года назад

Without the mustang there would be no Camaro ... That's worth something

@Outdoorsman-tu2zs 4 года назад

He did not even mention th 1969 Boss 302 or the 429

@Angelofdarkness48 4 года назад

The most confusing scoring metric with no set rules or values. I have no clue what’s going on with the scoring here

@icantcomeupwithaproperuser946 4 года назад

Bolt Terrakion yea the way he score doesn’t make much sense, but it’s a fun vid though

@bryancenterfitt7127 4 года назад

🤣

@jak_w515 4 года назад

Nobody knows what it means...... but I guess it's provocative

@WILLKent8 4 года назад

It gets the people goin

@jordanurlacher4089 20 дней назад

Remember at the beginning when he said he was gonna try and not be biased? That was hilarious

@BulletCobra2205 8 месяцев назад

Disappointed that they didn’t mention the classic Boss 429 😠

@tchthehighcouncil2738 4 года назад

Im 7 minutes and 38 seconds in to the video and i think this guy is all about mustang

@darkside20b90 4 года назад

I didn't make it that long

@AliAlhussaini 4 года назад

That’s what Chevy fanboys would say

@ninadganore 4 года назад

Naah. He was unbiased

@brodymcdade901 4 года назад

You mad at statistics

@marioluigi6024 4 года назад

@@brodymcdade901 Sure, definitely mad at stats when the Camaro outperformed the Mustang in everyway , but he still gave the Mustang more points because it was first. It's just very biased.

@fuzzywuzzable 4 года назад

I would enjoy this if there wasn’t a random points system. Just compare them and let us decide who won.

@rovickalhambra4840 4 года назад

Tommy Hughes it just makes the whole thing seem biased due to the point system

@ronnaniel9276 4 года назад

yh its totally subjective

@beastlydookie81 4 года назад

Agreed

@generalguilmon6719 4 года назад

Or simply give 1 point each round. Either a car wins, or it loses. Nothing like 3 or 4 points based on a lot of different things, just direct competition. 5 'decades', 5 points in total, one of them wins.

@redeyedfreaks 4 года назад

There's no way for a set up like this to be unbiased. I would be down for a public pole instead

@adlersharp 17 дней назад

It's not true that the SSP wasn't offered in manual, but they are extremely rare. I know of one for sale right now that has the Marti report confirming it was both factory manual and factory SSP package.

@hemorrhoid1 11 месяцев назад

Ngl the 70s was one of the best eras for both mustang and camaro

@codywhittenton6144 3 года назад

I was born in the wrong time period, my dad tells me when he was young you’d be able to find Mach 1’s, fastbacks and camaros on the side of the road for sale for $1000

@TurboRanger351 3 года назад

That's a true story.

@anthonyvu749 3 года назад

adjust for inflation

@barrettmartens9145 3 года назад

Back in the day you couldnt give a muscle car away especially those 68-70 chargers because of how bad on fuel they were. Nobody wanted a gas guzzler

@TheRugghead 3 года назад

$2500 in the 1990s... I had 69 and 70 fastbacks

@jiggyjfishing219 3 года назад

Yea but money was alot different back then a 20 was worth like 100 bucks back in modern money probably even more

@saucerthansauce3611 4 года назад

"Ferrari vs Ford" Lamborghini: am I joke to you? Yeah i know it's because of LeMans but the rivalry between Lamborghini and Ferrari is just legendary

@zacharydohn2416 4 года назад

Saucerthansauce also Dodge not being mentioned once in this but the exorcist was. You know the car made to try and compete with a dodge

@MadLadMartyMcFly85 4 года назад

Do go on ? Tell me more of this

@saucerthansauce3611 4 года назад

@@MadLadMartyMcFly85 about the rivalry between Lamborghini and Ferrari or about the 1960's LeMans?

@saucerthansauce3611 4 года назад

@@zacharydohn2416 yeah it was cool af. But I think that rivalry is also spread with Ford. In fact I think that's the real rivalry there. Ford vs Chevrolet vs Dodge

@gsl-zh4tw Год назад

Inaccurate information regarding the SSP mustang.. they DID come manual. I had an 84’ ssp chp car, it came factory equipped with a 5speed manual.

@devinkeller5604 11 месяцев назад

The 5.0 stayed in mustangs till 95’, until in 96 it switched to 4.6

@welijami69 4 года назад

In the end we all know it's all about personal preference, same as evo vs wrx, same as supra vs skyline and same as merc vs bmw.

@tony_5156 4 года назад

There will always be a superior choice but it’s all your choice.

@chikechovis2499 4 года назад

고등 지능 ODINS trash *cough* challenger

@georgeyaknowthegeorgeyeathatme 4 года назад

You can't compare a Supra and a skyline, there two totally different things and one is awd and the other is 2wd.

@zn-n 4 года назад

Yianni Konstantinopolites people like to compare them cause of their engine horsepower capabilities, but both of their fanboys are so annoying always thinking they come factory with 1k hp

@pablolamatafeliz6443 4 года назад

evo is better supra is faster bmw is more fun that's my choice

@edp.kensworth 3 года назад

We need a dodge guy to judge the mustang and camaro, so there isn’t a bias opinion

@G3N_MK2 3 года назад

I could try and do that as a dodge guy

@johng9290 3 года назад

@@G3N_MK2 well, which one???

@yuthful 3 года назад

as a dodge guy, they are completely even until you take into account electric mustang and e c o b o o s t so camaro wins even with the catfish generation

@daniellejonees 3 года назад

@Cesar De Pena nah probably a dodge neon🤣🤣🤣🤣

@jeromejackson5028 3 года назад

@@daniellejonees 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@antesosic1600 Год назад

I belive the SSP was offered with a manual to different police departments

@sethzilla.-9967 Год назад

"The battle is far from over" *Chevy Discontinues the Camaro*

@NNTorious 4 года назад

I don't like how the 2000s and 2010s are in one category, these are two very different decades.

@Toaasty_ 4 года назад

Yeah. That completely fucked the scoring

@ScottBoudreau1826 4 года назад

They stopped making the camaro for like 8 years in 2002 so not really worth comparing the two for that decade

@mattcaporuscio6956 4 года назад

Scott Boudreau the only GM muscle car to fill that 03-09 era was the Pontiac GTO and G8. I know it’s not a Camaro but I think it’s worth noting how much superior in performance the GTO was compared to the 2005 Mustang GT was but we all saw how it turned out in the end for Pontiac.

@vanillataco157 4 года назад

They only did that Bc mustangs had no competition

@avoidmysnipes7541 4 года назад

Mustang would have won lol

@PaganiGaming 4 года назад

Day 112 of asking James to do an Up to speed on his Dad

@oni8337 4 года назад

lol

@Razcuzyes 4 года назад

Sadly his dad left for milk before James could remember him well

@jongonz3716 4 года назад

Lol

@NirmithVAjri 4 года назад

OK I'll come with you

@Dr.Mantis_Toboggan 4 года назад

Yes this

@brentmills4 Год назад

Looks like I’ll do a comparison of these on GT-7 and see what happens! Are racing tires allowed for this attempt?

@kaiservon2936 11 месяцев назад

Bro just ignored the fact that the base model 2010 V6 camaro had the same horsepower as the 2010 mustang gt, unbiased my ass

@paulstevens95 Год назад

I'm a Ford guy through and through, but this video made me realize how much cooler the Camaro is than I ever thought. The scores on this made no sense to me

@nickh5081 Год назад

Yeah, his points are so random as to make the entire competition moot.

@erosshia3822 Год назад

Like the points were almost irrelevant to what he said about the decade before

@00linered Год назад

The points were not contingent on any sort of system. Just make em up as you go I guess... He must like Mustangs 😜

@sageharris3388 Год назад

I respect you for saying this

@Boss-hk9vx Год назад

So true

@FlavioScorpione123 4 года назад

it's amazing how a guy I don't know, using an absolutely arbitrary point system, talking about cars I have never driven can get me so worked up

@ryanatha3555 4 года назад

Yo, seriously... I never agree with this dude.

@Zanelander 4 года назад

@@ryanatha3555 I'm an f-body kinda guy ('02 Firebird), but I have mad respect for the SN95 5 Ho.

@FlavioScorpione123 4 года назад

I'm not even saying i disagree with him, but the way he has me cheering for a car or the other is incredible lol

@BoxerMustangLoverAndChristian 13 дней назад

I once said this: "Do whatever you want with a man or a woman, but do not mess with his or her Mustang." 😉

@dillonprentice1968 Год назад

I don’t think you can really give ford that much credit, ford needed Shelby to help them achieve a lot

@boydskobel202 4 года назад

He’s just gonna skip over the 2005 mustang shelby gt500 and the death of carol Shelby???

@mxx996 4 года назад

Boyd Skobel lmao his death didnt ruin the mustang or anything

@sidsideways2828 4 года назад

Joe Stacks they never made a 2012 gt350...

@DevinEMILE 4 года назад

@@sidsideways2828 it was a GT500 if i remember rightly the GT350 didn't return till the 2016 GT350

@floof4444 4 года назад

@@DevinEMILE you're correct

@huntersims7112 4 года назад

Boyd Skobel i mean he just skipped over the entire 6th gen camaro besides the zl1 soo

@kingspartacus2407 Год назад

“We’re going to be be unbiased in this video” Then proceeds to make the mustang the winner when they spent 5 minutes straight on how much better the Camaro is in every way.

@hello1184 Год назад

At least the mustang is still a thing

@fab4468 Год назад

@@hello1184 the camaro is still a thing too?

@hello1184 Год назад

@@fab4468 no bro. 2024 is its last model year

@fab4468 Год назад

@@hello1184 we arent in 2024 tho are we?

@hello1184 Год назад

@@fab4468 No but we abouta be in 2023. Look, it’s gonna be discontinued. That automatically puts the mustang in first by right of just plainly still existing