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Conflict of interest. If that happens on the highway, people could get hurt.. I'd get the tie rods tested myself 1st.. Material grade, stress, fracture and tensile documentation.
@@TracyH007 It could very well be just a bad set. It happens with everything that's manufactured. But if it's not, and more Raptor owners start coming forward about their broken tie rods, Ford's feet need to be held to the fire!
No analysis needed really, tie rods were bent and snapped on the threads. If I were to say do anything, it would be to take those + some OEM tie rods for a TRX and have them compared and test the quality and something like a bend test.
Glad to see you sticking with what you love in the TRX, I know you did it for some new content but us OG subs would watch 100 more videos with the TRX if you put them up. On a side note maybe make the Raptor the next giveaway, people would love to win a Raptor that was truly tested off road by you…..
Suggest you send the tie rods out to metalurgist for analysis. They will tell you the metal content (compare to manufacture spec) and they will tell you what caused the failure.
I was always a Chevy guy and bought a 2015 Ram 1500 5 years ago and it has been nothing but excellent! Really changed my mind about FCA/Stellantis. Then I recently bought a 2008 SRT8 Chrysler 300 as a daily driver and it has also been a wonderful vehicle.
I feel like this is just one of those instances where the truck was in a very specific circumstance (combination of stress, possibly material choice or failure, and other factors) and something broke. If you watch enough RU-vid videos you'll find plenty of instances of one truck surviving a specific trail/climb/condition and another one failing. I just came to this video from a long snow driving vlog where the guy in the TRX got stuck four times and the Raptor (not a 37) and a Rubicon made it through unscathed. On another day, on another trail with the same amount of snow or whatever, it would probably have been different. All of these trucks are incredibly capable across the board, but none of them are invincible. Drive what you like.
Buy a oem TRX and Raptor tie rod and put them in a press of some sort and do a stress test till they fail on a video. Make sure its a gen 3 tie rod though
Steer clear. I own a 2018 Raptor and the engine has been rebuilt twice. the finance guy that helped me at Ford owned a GT350 for several months before the engine blew.
Bronco tie rods are very tiny. They are the same specs, almost, as the older gen Rangers. A lot of guys will bring them with on the trails in case they snap the stock ones and at least they can get home. There are a few options for reinforcing them. Most people will never take them off road difficult enough to break most of them
Upgrading tie rods is a pretty typical mod for ifs when your lifting the suspension and/or adding power. I’ve done it to every duramax I’ve owned and have never had an ifs issue.
@@al1087 The classic version (2001-2007) were known for weak tie rods and the reason GM subsequently upgraded their size on the newer generations. end- Link sleeves or aftermarket are a necessity when taking this era truck off-road.
@@clarks2001 Thad be a fun job to do out on the trail. Especially getting the alignment at least somewhat okay so you don’t break anything else. It’d be quite a long repair lol.
I bought a gen3 22 raptor with 37s. Between that and the TRX, honestly I liked the way the TRX looked on the outside a little better, but I loved the way the raptor felt on the inside better, and that’s where I’ll spend all my time. Gotta say for those of us that run into the problem for TRX vs Raptor, we are lucky to have such “debates” lol. Y’all stay safe out there and keep riding 🤙
The tie rods breaking was pretty simple reasoning you had 37 mud grappler tires climbing up a packed dirt hill on wet rocks and leaves while in the trx you just floored it all way up and their wasn’t no you going slow unlike your raptor where you stopped on the hill which was most likely parking on rocks that happened to be big enough they redirected the tires breaking tie rods
Maybe try sending an email to winners. Most of the calls people get are spam and if I see someone calling multiples times with no voicemail, why would I answer it?
The problem is the person before mike leveled the truck, creating bad ball joint angles in the tie rods. And with all the other trucks that went up the trial don’t have bad ball joint angles, mixed with mud grapplers, with extreme lugs pull at rocks/dirt, that’s the problem not ford. For reference, look at the angles of the ram in video, compared to ford ones the stock suspension the other has almost a 3 inch level
For as long as the Raptor has been out, jumping, baja runs in Mexico, have never seen the tie rods break. Would of went with Rpg complete tie rods if your so worried about the stock ones. I for one have never worried about my 17 Raptor's tie rods.Some Broncos had issues, other's have wheeled there's with no issues at all.. Might be some bad heat treating on these rods as of late? The Raptor R beat the trx on road, they were neck and neck off road.. The trx does have 80/20 power all the time which takes a lot of guess work out. The trx has launch mode which works very well. The Raptor would have to be put in awd/ 4wd and certain rpm's when launching. Most drivers can not come close to getting that right.
If i had to guess, what ever caused damage to the front bumper ended up slightly tweaking the tie rods. once they have a slight bend, the force of turning or any external forces on the wheels will cause the tie rods to bend more and snapping just as yours did.
My guess would be it was previously damaged earlier on the trail and then the torque from spinning broke it completely . Then once the right one went and you continued to rip on it .. other one let loose … just a hopeful guess from a gen 1 owner
You never know, could’ve been Chevy Tie Rods, we’ve seen those break under pressure too 😂 Just kidding, but I prefer my solid axle F350 for that reason
Stop lying to your viewers it was the aggressive tires catching traction at full throttle that did the damage. Stock raptor tires (K03) would have kept spinning and not caught it’s the lugs catching on mud terrains and super swampers that breaks even the toughest trucks
My F150 sport is leveled with 36 inche nittos and I never had that problem . I take my truck off roading in New Jersey all the time . Had to be a faulty part .
Mike saying “it was just a dirt hill i have it on camera” sound like when i get in trouble and im explaining to my mom that is wasn’t going 154 in a 35
@ Street Speed 717 Glad you are staying with the TRX. You have been very fortunate to have the chance to put both the TRX and the Raptor to the test. I've had the opportunity to drive numerous Raptors and TRX's and have decided on the TRX. Keep the videos coming.
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The TRX gapped the Raptor R 1/2 lengths from a dig. Rolling race was the exact opposite. IMO the Raptor R is gonna wind up being the faster truck w/a proper driver. Which is why you have to get one!!! We NEEED TO KNOW!!!
Mike, It’s a great looking truck! Love the color and looking forward what you will do with it! It is shocking to see it break like that! Edit: The RAM did win JD Powers build quality that last two years.
Raptor R is faster than TRX when driving and off roading. TRX is faster than Raptor when launching from standstill. I think you should try out the Raptor R and see what is like. Please :)
VIEWERS Can we get a truck channel to put out a safety type video about pulling a trailer? There was a tragic accident in Raleigh where a young girl was killed by a truck pulling a float that lost its brakes.
Goose tune the raptor and if you wanna really move get big turbos or if your really crazy rmb sell a bored out 3.5 with 1200whp and top mount turbos it does shoot flames would love to see
I’m honestly surprised Ford didn’t ask for those part back so they can be tensile tested. If they have a material quality issue you’d think they would want to figure that out before this happens to somebody going 80mph down the highway. That would turn out a lot worse than what happened here.
Not gonna lie I’ve seen that video… And it was Launch control Vs No launch control. And the Raptor R won the roll race… idk what you think is suppose with these Trucks but in my eyes the my seem even lol
Nope your just making an excuse😂,any other truck would’ve made it up there. I thought the raptor would be better than the trx since ford was analyzing them for years but sadly the HP is still lower and the build quality is surprisingly bad on these newer raptors. Ngl tho the paint on body looks amazing but that won’t help it when it getting towed back to the factory
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Just FYI. That plastic piece that is glued to the bumper is to cover the collision avoidance sensor in the bumper. The plastic has to be super precise, otherwise it causes the sensor to fail or not work at all. They cannot put a metal cover over it without disabling the sensor which would disable your collision avoidance, auto brake, and adaptive cruise control.
Just get after market tie rods that are super strong. Selling the truck just because the tie rods break is just, idk. To me it’s really dumb. Hopefully you keep it! I love seeing it on the channel
Visually that Raptor is a pretty good looking truck. Seems like to me there should be some aftermarket upgrades to make the suspension better. I would always recommend a Dodge over other trucks because I am a Dodge nut but not going to knock how good that truck looks. With some modifications it seems like it could be a pretty solid truck. Though I can see the sentiment in that it costs so much it should come already super solid.
Personally I’m more into the fords but I cant really pic a side in terms of performance because both the dodge trx and the raptor r really aren’t baja trucks to be fair as they are advertised. They are more just for show. I know a lot of people hate on the v6 raptors but they take a absolute beating like I’ve never believed. But from experience the only thing I can criticize on the dodges is the hemis are not great and the suspension is rather soft. But also the cummins trucks the engines are way to heavy for. Overall can knock dodges to much. More can overall point out the flaws and failures but they both have issues all trucks do.
TBH the only thing that the Raptor has that tops the TRX is it’s rattly interior that has alcantara. (Alcantara probably isn’t the best interior to have on a truck that’s gonna get dirty and get mud all over the interior)
from factory Trx is on 35's and raptor R is on 37s. on the same size tires I think the raptor still takes TRX from a dig even with the superior trx launch control... on "Throttle house" In a roll race the raptor walked the TRX
@@StreetSpeed717 again, you can’t be bouncing under throttle, especially not hard throttle. When those truvks bounce, the tires grab really hard. Kinda like if you get stuck and someone bounces on the bumper to get traction.
I test drove a lot of pandemic cars before I bought a 2016, most of them especially after 2020 especially ford's and Toyotas felt cheaper than their sister car (pre pandemic version)
The raptor r did lose in the drag race but it was marginal but the raptor being on 37’s and not having launch control affects that from a roll the raptor r destroys the trx
I have beat on my 19 roush f150 way harder and the only thing that has given was the catalytic converters so now it's at the dealership waiting on parts
@@StreetSpeed717 you know as well as I do nothing is bulletproof and something will eventually fail no matter what manufacturer,so there for you will always have a cheaper weak link to fail over something more expensive
The TRX won the dig. The Raptor R won the roll Race. The Trx and Raptor R off-road was decided it wasn't a fair race because of surface conditions of the dirt.
The tie rods might not have been adjusted properly from the factory, the threads have to be at a certain depth on the ends or else there is a danger of shearing
I think FCA was prepared since they broke a tonne of parts testing the trackhawk so they knew exactly where the stress points were and I def think a lot of ppl underestimated the TRX build quality but your video jumping the TRX at 60mph and Ben Hardy's transmission line going loose causing him to get a new trans didn't help 😂 that's all ppl mention that have hate towards the TRX
Because FCA does the required amount of research and development and software tests and real world driving tests to confidently put a vehicle on the road so they don't end up with twice as many recalls as they should. Which is exactly what happened to Ford
@@tomh6779 hasn't been an issue in quite some time. Especially with the trucks. Number one reliability two years running says Consumer Reports tied with Tundra
I'm very happy Mike that you decided to keep the trx, as a fan and a subscriber to your channel, I think I can speak for many of your fans here that they would agree that we are happy you kept the trx :)
