Secret to those engines is the correct oil. I had one until last year, 2013 had done 112k. A few months before I go rid of it, I took the sump off. No sign of belt damage at all, had always used the correct castrol oil
I use comma 5 20 ecoboost oil.Just get the spec perfect.Its not about brand in my view with any vehicle.Garages in general never have specific oils all they have are 3 barrels of different oil (not with complete target)
My partner bought a 2016 1.0 eco boost in 2020. In March this year, after regular services and doing just under 60000 miles, the brakes failed and engine seized due to the faulty wet belt. Luckily we didn’t cause a serious accident! Cost almost £4000 for a new engine! Ford didn’t want to know because it was older than 5 years! Will be using this video and information to chase them up for some compensation hopefully!
I got rid of my 2017 ford focus in May 24. I was driving home when I came off at a junction to find that my brakes had completely failed. I had my daughter in the car at the time. Fortunately I was approaching the roundabout with a slight uphill gradient that helped slow me down. I was told that I needed a new engine. This could have turned out to be so much worse had I not been going slightly uphill at the time. Very dangerous wet belt design.
@@Imra99928because the wet belt broke apart and clogged the pump. The major issue I had (apart from the brakes failing) is that I was paying for my car to have an annual service in which the correct oil and maintenance of the car should have been carried out by the garage.
I’ve a 2013 eco boost and changed the belt last year with 40,000. Being 10 years old got the belt changed. The mechanic said the belt was in relatively good condition. Maybe the fact I’ve changed the oil yearly myself and only used the correct oil. It’s good that ford are stepping up but the servicing caveat gets them out of a hole with the vast number of cars that fall within the wet belt nonsense. Who after the warranty gets their car serviced every year by ford or a ford recognised mechanic. Very few. Like me many will be doing themselves or getting a local guy to do it. It’s a get out for ford if your engine blows despite keeping up servicing by other means. Don’t think this will help many out tbh. Like the channel btw. 👍
@@derekfleming3095 Yes I understand what you say Derek. But there will be numerous owners who won’t have used garages and serviced regularly after the warranties expire. Especially up to 10 years. I’ve never had mine serviced by a garage apart from the cambelt replacement. I’ve managed to do all my own subsequent oil changes, along with coolant,brake oil and brakes. It’s never failed an MoT. Like many others or get neighbours or good local mechanics to see to the same stuff. But not at regular service intervals. I would only take mine to a local garage or ford at a push if ever the engine management light were to come on, which would be above my pay grade. There will be plenty that look after their cars this way. It is good news from Ford, just saying there are many owners who will not fit into this category or provision if their engine fails. I hope you can see what I was getting at. The criteria is very favourable to Ford.
@@tonyorourke5066 yes, but you have to see it from fords point of view, they have a recommended service schedule and they’re saying regardless of where you got it done, you can claim, that’s pretty fair in my view. I also do all the work on my cars, but always keep receipts for everything and record date of mileage. As for your engine management light comment, get yourself a decent reader, you could do it all yourself. I got one for £108
I agree the service history is a get out clause. I prefer to service my car myself then I know it's actually done right and I won't get charged the rip off prices. Ford wanted £350 for axle bushes replacing, genuine parts cost £60 1 hour easy job using a bush extractor.
My wife had an 13 plate fiesta ecoboom about 7 years ago, It would be fine with new spark plugs, as soon as it warmed up no engine compression. Took it to a local independent garage, and he said.. it that’s an ecoboom Google it and take it to Ford, and they said they wouldn’t fix it. So I let my wife use my 11 plate focus 1.6 cdti which just had the cambelt and a full service, and that broke down just round the corner from her work at QEUH in Glasgow. My good friend the owner of the said local independent garage (HBR Dumbarton) came and got it, then took the two of them over to Linwood where I got my Honda 😅
My son bought a brand new Fiesta Ecoboost 1.0 Red Edition 140bhp in 2015. It’s been serviced regularly with the correct oil and no issues. He has just had the wet belts replaced at 65,000 miles. They were still in good condition.
Look around, there are currently many other examples from recognised names, not just ford who messed up The lesson to be learned is buy Japanese - but not Nissan, as they’re basically Renault now
Ford Focus. 2015. 1.0 litre Ecoboost. 56k. Belt failed on the A9 while my wife was driving it with the kids in the back. Luckily it was at a turn off. I bought the car from Arnold Clark in 2019. Honestly? Wasnt a bad car until now. Set up a case with Ford, sent them every service I'd had, and previous owners stuff, but there are 2 years missing in 2016 and 2017. Not sure what they'll do. I expect them to wriggle out of it. Thing is, I've wrote if off in my head anyway, as I don't trust them. I'm amazed no ones been fatally killed because of it. I'm also amazed they're allowed to sell them. I've had to buy a Toyota in the meantime.
Not only has ford had problems with that they also have a problem with their high pressure fuel pumps which are triggered by a rounded triangle on the cam shaft which causes the car to be starved for gas.
I love my Fiesta, had it 7 years, zero road tax. Regularly serviced by myself. Fitted new axle bushes and rear springs which are easy diy jobs and parts are cheap. Also its an easy job to change the oil and filter £45 with Magnatec 5-20 . The price of getting the belt changed is a bargain compared to Vauxhall, Peugeot or Citroen which have many engine problems.
I have had my 2012 focus 1.0 ecoboost for 5 years in September I picked it up with 52k and it’s now getting to 80k. And I had the wet belt changed in 2022 at 10 years old and after just over 3 years of ownership. When I asked the mechanic if there was any debris in the oil pick up he said no the belt was in very good condition and no debris to speak of. I personally have my car serviced religiously regardless of mileage and put engine flush in the oil before the oil change. I don’t drive like a spanner. And it’s been good as good the only 2 brake downs I had over the near 5 years of ownership was dead battery and fuel injector seal failed leaking fuel. There have been age related maintenance but nothing that caused a Brakedown. But the big problem with the wet belt was nobody locally had the tools to do the job if if they did they wanted £1200-1500 I managed to find a independent Ford specialist 18 miles from where I lived who had done wet belt changes. They did the job for £850 with a few extra so just under £1100 and they gave me loan car to get home and back a mk1 focus I didn’t mind that I have never driven a mk1 but owned a mk2-3. The engine gets a bad rap but I know a person with that engine in a fiesta with over 100k on its original wet belt. They are not bad providing you maintain them properly and don’t drive like a spanner
My 2016 fiesta 1.o ecoboost just died this week. It's booked in with Ford for an inspection, they said I have to pay for it and the costs of getting the car to them 😢 70k on the clock and always serviced
Got a 2013 1L ecoboost with full service history (bar 2017), and 96k miles. Clutch went at 93k miles, but the engines still going strong. Hopefully no issues in the future.
I've got a 2014 Ecoboost ● 1st engine blew at 46,000 due to faulty degas hose - missed recall ● 2nd engine is 2019 model from Cologne engine plant - sump and oil feed lines blocked at 34,000. The Turbo also blew due to oil feed lines blocked so had to but new Oil Pump, Turbo + Oil Feed Pipes/Inlets... cannot afford to strip engine for wet belt replacement. Engine still working... not sure how long. Been quoted £2500 for engine rebuild or £5000 new engine 😂
I’m on my sixth ecoboost five of them ford focus my last one I part ex for 2022 puma absolutely love it my 14 plate black focus I sold it with 188k on it and it never missed a beat the only thing that has gone wrong on any of them was a belt tensioner on the air con I serviced them with the main dealership might be more expensive but up until now I’ve had trouble free motoring my daughters also have ecoboost fiestas and puma’s and again had no issues 🤷♂️
Yea I have had eco boost engines for the last 10 years not a single issue with them. After watching these videos you feel like they all blow up by 40000 miles lol . My 2015 has done 100000 miles.
I believe most major lubricant companies will no longer supply or support any oil for these Puretech units as they are concerned about being dragged into future litigation cases. A local mechanic told me that he’s seen some of the Puretch units fails at less than 20K. They are also used in Vauxhall cars now like the Corsa as they are part of the PSA group.
@@colingraham9281 Yes spot on, I bet Total oil are not happy as their in bed with the PSA group. I've also known 1.5 ecoboom fords to fail around 25 30 thou also. It's not good enough
It makes you wonder just how thick the designers of these Ecoboost engines are. If you subject any flexible belt to contamination of emgine oil you can be certain that it will degrade and fail. Yet now that the penny has dropped, i am amazed they are still leaving another belt in there to do the same. I can see more claims as the post 2019 engines start to fail, will Ford fix them for free, i doubt it.
Thye even repeated the design decision when they launched the 2.0 EcoBlue diesel, there's loads of Transit vans with knackered engines for the same reason as was outlined in the video.
@@FatHead1979 Other brands are not imune either, Toyota has had to issue a recall due to debri causing engine failures, the same as Kia / Hyundai. A few years ago i had a Mazda 6 estate diesel, and it required a new engine under warranty due to oil starvation, another bad design. Whenever i see fancy words like Ecoboost or Skyactiv i just know that a failure is not far away.
I suspect engineers are pushed to make designs that save money in some way may be part of the problem. We have seen penny pinching by manufacturers in different areas over the years that caused issues . I remember reading an article years ago how the big wigs at Mercedes asked engineers to build an expensive part to a certain price rather than a standard , and back in those days many people said Mercedes cars definitely where not the quality of early models . Perhaps that has changed in later years at the company , but no doubt that sort of bean counter mentality finds its way into most manufacturers in these tuff times. If you look at some old car engines , some are built like tanks with parts built to be very heavy duty way exceeding what the average consumer will need it to be , in later editions of the engines you find big heavy solid conrods for example are trimmed down to a point where they are strong enough, no longer indestructible , but still last long enough to be serviceable while having less material in each conrod , may be 10 or 20 grams per conrod removed which may only be a 5 cent saving per conrod , which sounds like peanuts , but if you factor in one V8 engine has 8 conrods , that’s a saving of 40cents an engine, but if they sell a million cars and trucks with that engine , suddenly it’s serious money in the bank. And if they cut costs in 5 other areas , it’s now millions of dollars saved on production.
Imagine what...I bought Tourneo Courier 2024 Active. I learned about the problem recently although all mechanics say its good engine for my needs. I will be extra careful now
In 2020, I bought a new Focus 1.0 Ecoboost (I've always bought Fords) and only discovered the issue with the wetbelt by chance *after* I'd taken delivery of it when someone asked on FB if there was a local garage which could change a wetbelt on their Ford. I went "WHAT?" & started to learn more. I was understandably very concerned as I'd paid £28k+ for my first ever new car. It's only recently that I discovered that mine has the later, timing chain arrangement but that remaining wetbelt oil pump arrangement is still concerning. Who the (!) thought that running a belt in a bath of oil & burying it in the engine's innards was good engineering practice? In other times, they'd have been quietly removed from the premises & shot at dawn. This is going to cost Ford millions & they've been caught out trying to bury the problem & blaming anyone else for their f..f..foul up.
The 2019 date isn’t true. I’ve seen 2022 fiestas with the wet belt system. You can tell because the turbo is at the back of the engine on the chain driven engine.
2011 Focus Zetec-S, bought from the UK with suspected head gasket. Turned out it was the oil cooler and not the head gasket, so easy fix. Drove it home to Ireland and imported it paying €3,5k VRT. Got my coolant recall noticed and had to strong arm my local (70km away) Ford dealership to do the work. Three days later, total coolant loss, no 'audible and visual notification' (part of the recall, from a computer update, which obviously hadn't occurred) Ford wouldn't even collect my vehicle. Got it recovered off my own insurer, back to Ford to fix. They had botched the high pressure system using glue and a Tec screw and allegedly fixed it for free. I wrote complaint letters and emails to both Ford UK and Americas head office. I even spoke to an Irish Solicitor who took my information directly to the Ford dealership and decided to work for them. Basically stiffing me. Gangsters working for gangsters. I've had Fords in the past, XR2's mainly but moved away to Peugeot's 205 GTi's and later a 306 GTi-6. Then going back to Ford for the Zetec-S. I can happily say that the way I've been dealt with by my local Ford dealership (and even Ford in general - for backing up their franchise) I will NEVER buy another Ford EVER again. Disgusting behaviour and screwing the little man. CONGRATULATIONS to the American class action. Well done. FK Ford 😢
I’m currently sitting with a Ford ecoboost, and the same problem has happened to me, I have rang Ford multiple times and they won’t help me, I have 42,000 miles on my car, it’s been off road now for 2months as the engines are dear to buy
Thank you so much for making me aware of the issues with this engine, I was just about to purchase an ST Line model. Do I have any other engine options, or should I just forget about owning this car. Thanks in advance
Hoping someone can help. Does this need to be a failure? We are just now getting an oil pressure warning pop up on cold start on our 2018 1.0 ecoboost fiesta. If the oil pump is failing as a result of the belt degrading will this still be covered by the goodwill?
When will ford send out the recall or where can I get more info on this matter. I have a 2012 f150 ecoboost with an engine failure in January 2024. I've been wanting to fix it but just don't have the funds to do so at the moment. This would greatly help.
Does anyone know when the improved 1.0 litre Eco boost engines were introduced by Ford? I have a friend with a 2014 Focus which has the ecoboost engine - it has 90k on the clock and is running well, but being a 2014 (Mk 3) is it at risk from the "wet belt" problem?
We’ve got the Vauxhall combo with the same engine and it went wrong luckily just stopped they came picked it up and with a bit of hassle they finally fixed it but had it for 2 months 👎🏻😡🤬🤬🤬ours is 2019 24500 on it when it went wrong
I took my Ford fiesta into a Ford dealership for a cambelt replacement they charged me 1250 after they fitted it the engine started knocking, they told me the engine needs replacing at a cost of 6855.00 what can I do
Can you look in to 2.2 ford transit custom engines, mine died 2 weeks ago only done 59k miles , serviced every year, max be tween service was 9k miles but on average about 5k miles, had it from new, bought 2016 , there were no signs before it happened and no lights on dashboard but started running on 3 cylinders was on a motorway taking the exit when this happened and a little bit of oil pushing out of out filler cap, loss of power. Absolutely livid and disappointed with Ford 🤬
Such a brilliant idea, who would have envisaged the issues a cambelt running in oil would have caused. Shame it takes an American class action to get anything done.
Ford have been foolish in making it too easy to RESET the Oil Service indicator. Also, the exact recommended oil and quality filter needs to be fitted at the recommended interval. Preferably even earlier than recommended.
I do love your channel but I do think you are spending doom and gloom over the ecoboost engine I have a friend who works for one of largest Ford dealers in England and he says they have absolutely no problems with the new chain driven engine or the the oil pump belt . Yes he has seen lots of wet belts break but these were down to missed services and the wrong oil being used
These engines were built to fail... ford would have hoped they had fallen into the 5th owners hands before failing.. no matter how shit fords are, people buy them up like greggs pasties.. they're great for the first owners and then completely shit their pants later down the line.. planned obsolescence
I own a Mustang Ecoboost among other sports cars and it gave me nothing but headaches. Possible head gasket blown, turbo under boost , carbon build up on intake valves etc etc, it's only done 96k km not miles. Terrible cars my first and last Ford
These engines have been failing prematurely for YEARS - horrific design (wtf can’t they have used a cam chain?). Don’t mention the piston cracks…. Should have been recalled years ago…
It's bullshit ! They replace the belt with a timing chain but the engine oil pump is still driven by a smaller separate RUBBER drive belt therefore will still fail eventually !
