I absolutely love these "Three Idiots and a _______ Challenge" videos. Entertaining, great for eating up time on Sunday mornings, and seeing older rides actually perform quite well is awesome. As always, great job TFL!
I love these episodes. But one criticism, put them all on the same style tire. Tires are so critical off road. A ford raptor on highway tires would suck in the snow too. With the prices of the vehicles being so different it’s one factor that could be an even playing field.
If this were some sort of scientific test, sure... but the reality is tires are expensive and it makes little sense to put them on a vehicle that they don't plan to keep. Take it for what it is, a comparison between vehicles the way you would do it with your buddies.
@@wilmarbarrick3194me and my buddies wouldn't have $8k deficit between vehicles haha. And street tires. Only paying $6.5k for the Ford, he has plenty of tire money left over.
@wilmarbarrick3194 one phone call and almost any tire company would be more than happy to sponsor a video with them by provided new free tires for all the vehicles. They do it all the time.
Historically they typically take these trucks out with the tires that came on them. Afterward they put tires on (often the same) and do additional testing.
Regardless of the outcome, you’ve found three of the cleanest 90’s SUVs around! No rust, no dents, no “patina”, and they work. These aren’t normal FB Marketplace beaters.
There's plenty out their in good shape. They're just not 5 minutes from your house and clean ones are no longer "cheap". Plus, everything sold on fb is shit. Look elsewhere.
My 2000 Chevy Suburban 5.3L 4x4 has nearly 300,000 miles behind it. Runs like new and serves as a base camp. Maintenance is easy, ride is smooth with new KYB shocks and BFG TKO2’s.
318,000 on my 01 5.3 Tahoe. Got it for free from a friend, the original owner, only thing that’s been done was a transfer case rebuild at about 250k which he did himself and I resealed the motor when I got it cause I’m meticulous. Wasn’t too sure about it when he gave it to me but it’s clean and has served up 30k miles for me so far. Drive it every day.
All of my 97-02 Round Nose Expeditions and F150s were extremely solid rigs. I owned 6 of them, all variations, 4.6 & 5.4 Triton engines, 4x4 and RWD, Eddie Bauer, even a 99 SSV Cop Version Expediton with rubber floors. Great trucks, very reliable.
We had a 97 F150 on my dad's farm. The 5.4 Triton was a beast back then. Pulled hay wagons and horses up steep hills with ease. And was great for family trips.
Same, I love my 01 with the 5.4. Rock solid at 226k miles and still drives like a new car, I work at a dealership and drives better then some of our used cars that only have 50,000 mi on them and only a couple years old. Fordpower! Even save me once when I crashed it in the snow 30 miles an hour into a guardrail only knocked off the license plate And kept driving even till this day with a small dent in the bumper
Total fun. I have a 94 burban with 300k, and a 2001 Toy Sequoia. The Toy is super nice, but that ole burban is the most useful, as I can haul an 8' sheet of plywood in back
Tahoe gets my vote. I love the GMt400s. One of the longest lasting and most reliable platforms ever made. My mom had a '99 Yukon very similar to this Tahoe. Great truck, very reliable. It has over 300k mi when she sold it.
I’m so so happy you guys are finally featuring a 1997-2002 Expedition! I always thought it was so underrated. I have one and am super happy that it has. 2wd, 4 auto, 4 high and 4 low. Factory 31’s. Rear limited slip. Decent ground clearance. Very hard to kill and can be had for half a Tahoe
The 100k mile remark on Tahoe is crazy … the majority of 1st Gen tahoes or any Gmt400 usually has welll over 250k lol , just go on marketplace , there’s a lot over 300-350k miles lol .
It’s the banter that makes these kinds of videos. Thats why some channels nail it and others try and fall short. This is an example of that chemistry working perfectly. Love it.
I grew up in the 80s and 90s and I don't recall really seeing any land cruisers around. 4 runners however were everywhere as well as Tahoe and Expedition.
FFS i know this a really hard concept for most Americans to get their head around it. But holy hell there is a whole world out there that's not American.
Same here. We had a 1996 and a 1997 4-door Yukons, and they were wonderful, amazing machines. Rust took them, but while we had them they were solid, comfortable rides. The Tahoe they have here with the barn doors is a gem!
My family owned 4 different Suburbans as I was growing up, 1 square body and 3 GMT400’s. I have so many great memories in those vehicles and I have a K1500 pickup myself. I just picked up a 1997 Expedition 4x4 and my only complaint is that the 2v 5.4 is much more difficult to work on than the Vortec engines!
I have seen hundreds of GMT400 vehicles that died well after 250,000 miles....I own a 94 full size 2 door Blazer, you can see it in my name, had it 24 years and it has over 230,000 miles on it and it still is working great....all original. I would also like to point out that if you are going to do these tests, you all should be equipped with the exact same tire type and tread. Great video......I may need the tissue....lol
I love my 1992 Suburban. It's great off road. Has great visibility. The engine is ultra reliable. It's comfortable. Easy to work on. I've had it for 22 years now. 26:58 but it's also only a 3/4 window...
Tahoe is a pretty looking hot rod that doesn’t compare to the other 2. Still see those Chevy trucks everywhere too my dads got one that has 340k miles still runs like a champ.
My Tahoe is a '97 2 door 2 wheel drive. I pulled a new Tahoe out of a ditch where it bogged down after the driver backed up too far. Pretty impressive for an open diff.
Roman "tyres are everything off road" also Roman "the Land Cruiser is better off road because the others have rubbish tyres and it makes no difference" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The Landcruiser would still be better with the same tyres on those 2 land barges. But like the typical American you are probably too arrogant to realize that.
My Dad is 81, and drives a 1999 Tahoe. 5.3, 2 wheel drive with almost 300K. Every spring he drives it from Central Florida to Central Ohio pulling a 16 foot cargo trailer, then back to Florida in the fall, it's also his daily driver. His came with 3 row seating, it drives a rides fantastic.
Lmao. We are getting a pretty good picture of what Tommy’s childhood looked like during the tombstone hill portion of the episode. “Shut up and eat some baby m&ms.”
If the Tahoe and Expedition had similar mods and tires to the Land Cruiser, the comparison would be more valid. As it is now, it's very hard taking this first comparison seriously or entertaining.
@@tdel8613 Being sponsored by Falken is way different than having the kind of relationship with them where they can just send 3 sets of pretty expensive tires for free.
@@noobasdfjkl They’ve done budget build comparisons before, so... This is just comparing used vehicles in the condition they were as purchased, not what they’re actually capable of. So it feels pointless.
1st gen Ford Expedition was the direct replacement for the Bronco. Fits 34s stock on 16s. 10 inch clearance. Steel bumpers. Standard steel skid plates. Full time four-wheel drive. It also has the best engine and transmission of the bunch. 2 valve triton and the 4 speed easily go 250k... power and reliability. Only thing it lacks is lockers.
i agree. My buddies dad had one of these and we always borrowed it when we were teenagers. That thing was a tank. We were the old school party uber haha. It helped with the ladies 🤷♂️🤣. When you're an awkward teenager growing into your body, you need all the help you can get with them LOL.
These types of comparisons never get old. Please make more of these videos. What about “classic full body 4x4” like k5 blazer, bronco, ram charger, Jeep Cherokee chief? This would be an epic show.
The Tahoe is built on the GMT400 platform, which is the best truck ever built. You still see the C/K pickups, Suburbans, Tahoes, and Yukons everywhere. I rarely see the Expeditions from that era still on the road, and they outsold the Tahoe/Suburban. As the owner of 4 Chevy trucks ranging from 1988-1998, I can say they are by far the best built 💪
I owned a '97 Expedition XLT 4x4. Loved that it had part time 4wd. I put 31" BFG All-Terrains on it and it was awesome offroad and on the highway. Sadly someone else liked it too and stole it out of my driveway. Later, I bought an '05 Expedition. Hated the full-time 4wd. Own an '06 Tahoe 2wd today with stability control rear end. Swapping in an axle with the G80 soon.
They are all great vehicles... The LC is definitely the best off-roader, the Tahoe is the best family hauler, and the Expedition is somewhere in between, but come on Toyota, fix the issue with the low range engagement. Even the new Taco has this same issue. You'd think in 30+ years they'd have figured it out by now
I dont even need to watch this to know the GMT400 Tahoe is far and away the best of this bunch. Nobody had Land Cruisers back in the day, and I wont even waste my breath on the Ford. You still see tons of 90's Chevys on the road today, way more than any other manufacturer from that era.
I wanted a 80 series, just couldnt justify the cost. I ended up with a 2000 2500 suburban instead and im glad i did. Way more room, power, comfort and 1/4 the price. The break over angle isnt ideal but i can make it work for the price 🤣
Most of the 1st gen Expeditions would do well over 100k miles. Mine had 290k when I traded it. Ran just fine when I traded. The PRNDL bushings was really the only thing I had to change multiple times. It was a 97' XLT model with 4WDAuto. 5.4L 2v engine.
I would like to see yall do the slip test on these rigs, I just picked up my third gmt z71 tahoe in recent years and no one done these tests back then so it would be cool to see it now 😎 👍
I’ve never owned a Land Cruiser so I can’t speak on those. I’ve owned an expedition and several of the gmt trucks, and assuming the tahoe/suburban would be the same. Looks wise, I loved the expedition and it got me to a lot great camping spots far beyond the pavement. Mechanically, in my opinion, the gmt platform is just as capable but way cheaper and easier to work on.
Probably my favourite of all your features. Well, Tommy and Kase are giving them a good run in the ‘old car and Jeep’ series. I imagine the first thing you’ll do is equalize the tire situ. Should be fun
I had a 2000 expedition 4.6 2WD that i passed down to my stepson with 339k miles on it, and its still going strong to this day. Original powertrain. Very reliable truck. That said, give me that Tahoe for a daily. The pinnacle of GM reliability, those things regularly go well over 250k miles, were insanely comfortable, and an iconic design. When i think of 90's family haulers, that tahoe is what pops in my head.
Late 90s suburban and late 80s Jeep Grand Wagoneer’s were/ and in mint condition are the GOAT IMO as a general purpose vehicle, assuming you can afford to feed them to use them daily.
My ‘02 Expedition never ceases to amaze me with its capabilities even with the smaller 4.6 triton V8. A good set of AT tires with factory height suspension and my old girl can very comfortably get me almost anywhere. Hardly ever have to put it in 4 low👌
For next series I'd love to see three Midsize suvs under 10k, with low range, third row, v8 and a hitch. You could tow, go Offroad, drag race and carry people as challenges. Good examples would be early 2000's durangos, explorers, and envoy xl's mid 2000s pathfinders, 4runners and commanders
Depends on how early 2000s of a Durango. They still made the 1st gen after 2000 and the 4.7 V8 model had a 5 speed auto vs the 4 speed auto of the 5.9 Magnum. The 4.7 accelerated quicker too due to that 5 speed.
I loved my 1999 Ford Expedition! Mine was the XLT with the 5.4L V8 and 4r100 transmission. My first vehicle in high school in 2014. Grew up in Moab and it was great for running the trails there! Still have it, just rebuilding the motor at 220,000 miles because valves were not seating properly anymore and oil rings and piston rings went out.
The Land Cruiser is amazing and easily the best off road regardless of tires but the Suburban nameplate is farrrr more well known in the United States overall. I know this is a Tahoe but just saying. As far as an iconic people mover, it’s the burban hands down
This one is a no brainer Toyota and Chevy lol I have a GMT800 Silverado that’s been in the family for 24 years with no rust and I’m sure that 400 series has served well and still looks great! Victory Red like mine also Toyota because I like Toyota.
Slap brand new tires on that Ford and it still would have cost less then the other two and it would out perform both of them by the metrics you guys where using in this video. The Landcruiser couldn't even get into 4L and somehow it get's first place? Ya'll fumbled the rankings here lol. Still a fun watch. Cheers boys!
Love this series!! You need to put some good falkens on the Tahoe and expedition, then do the off road comparison again, cause the tires make all the difference as you know. Great video guys!!
Those old 350 vortec engines were pretty fuel efficient, I’m not sure it’ll win but I think it’s the one to beat if your going to win in the Denver 100
I'd love to see a 90s Compact SUV challenge in this format, maybe a RAV4, a CRV, and a Tracker? Would be a cool comparison especially considering how surprisingly off road capable those early compact SUVs are (especially the RAV4)
@@JohnDoeYouAre how does that negate anything that I said. If anything it supports it because the government ordered them. Good old Government Motors they wouldn't be around without those contracts
@@CoalChrome miss read after and part when was reading shitting. As if calling them overrated shit trucks compared to others. Would have been more positive word like beating.
@@CoalChromethose "cheaply made trucks" are far more comfortable and last longer than the other two in the competition. People like you only cry about the plastic pieces that are easy to replace other than that there's nothing comparable to the Tahoe's drivetrain and looks
89 gmc blazer, 350 with efi. Owned one when i was in highschool and a couple years after. Im talking jumps heavy offroad trips 4 wheel burnouts up against a wall lifted with 40" tsl swampers. Truck was operating fine up until the day i sold it. Only had to replace the trans once but that was to be expected. Wish i hadnt sold it best truck ever.
