The ship that was meant to bring the entire crew home was about to tip over during the first storm and strand the entire crew on Mars, the commander had to choose between risking all their lives to save Watney, or saving as many as she could.
I agree except for the fact that she would have been risking the lives of all the crew to continue looking for Watney who they ALREADY believed to be dead.
That was part of the MASSIVE problem I had with the movie - the extremely attenuated atmosphere would be unable to apply much more than a gentle earth's breeze against the craft, even in the strongest martian "storm". Think of the earth's wind as standing in a river with a 5km/hr current as representina na earth breeze, and a 5km/hr breeze representing the martian air - the difference in the forces is very comparable.
@@gordowg1wg145 All fictional stories must fall down, otherwise they're not fiction. The clever bit is to make them fall down in a way you won't notice, but only maybe 2 or 3 stories have managed that in all time.
@@fredpace7514 I loved it too. Chi doesn't let you off the hook and just forgive that easily and I just love that about her 😅 I wouldn't mind her being the commander in my mission either, Tien could be my exercise partner 😅
Simply not true. Whoever suggests them, had them watch Top Gun 2, without ever watching Top Gun. Dead Pool without watching any X Men. You can tell they obviously haven’t seen them. Some bad choices in there too.
@@frankiek2269I have never seen any X-men movies but I enjoyed Deadpool very much. I have never really cared about the X-men movies. I think I once started one but fell asleep quite quickly. I know a little about most of the characters so I knew that at least two of the characters in Deadpool were from the X-men movies and I don't think I really needed to know more. But who knows, maybe I'll give those movies another chance one of these days. You recommend that?
I'm going to say that Teddy isn't as bad as you girls think. I think you were too hard on him He does care and do what he thinks is best. But he has to balance many concerns. He was poking holes in the theory of Watney bing alive, because he wanted to be sure before he announced it. He doesn't want to tell the crew, Watney is alive because he's concerned the guilt of leaving him behind will distract them particularly if there is no rescue plan (which there wasn't yet). He has press conferences and interviews because the government isn't going to fund NASA if it doesn't have public support for the program. And no funding means no rescue. He was waiting till next year to launch because they need Mars and Earth to be aligned for a quick journey. Launching too early could actually get supplies there later. He didn't authorize the Hermes to rescue Watney, because he thought the risk to the other 5 astronauts was to great and he was caring about them too. He demanded Mitch's resignation because if too many people undermine him and try too many different plans rather than uniting it causes chaos and failure. He had to do it to maintain cohesive leadership for the good of the program. Yes, some of his decisions seem cold and calculated, but that is an unfortunate burden of leadership. He invested quite a lot to get Watney home, but he wasn't willing to make reckless risks to do so. He was a good man and good leader.
The only thing that I could not get past was not telling the crew about it. None of the justifications for procrastinating hold water to me. The reasons would just be magnified the longer they kept it from them. They were going to find out no matter what while still in space. And the closer to Earth that get, the more dangerous the journey becomes, even without that info. Which would then be compounded by the anger at being treated as hothouse flowers. But other than that, he is a pretty good leader making pretty good, albeit tough, choices.
@@AceMoonshot I disagree. If they just said "he's still alive and you left him behind" that would be very bad, because based on the immediate information they had, he had limited food and no chance of rescue in the near future, meaning they left him to his doom. That guilt would weigh heavily on them. So much more than the survivors guilt of "he died in the storm". When they did finally tell them, they were able to say 1) they've reestablished contact 2) he's found a way to farm to survive 3) they're putting together a plan to rescue him. That undoubtedly eased that guilt of leaving him behind substantially. Yes, there is some anger directed at NASA, but that's not near as bad as the guilt would have been in my opinion. I think the Pros outweigh the Cons here.
@@chuckmanion1128 I guess we agree to disagree. Having everyone in the universe know the truth and lying to you would be a bitter pill to swallow. Especially since the very people they'd trust and rely upon to help them grieve were being censored. So wives, husbands assorted family and support network etc were having to lie to them to keep a pointless secret. And it would be pointless. No pros at all. Especially once they made contact with him.
@@chuckmanion1128 honestly, this is the most cohesive and well thought out explanation I have encountered as to Teddy's decisions. Made me feel a lot less harsh towards the character. I appreciate you.
In real life, the atmosphere is so thin on Mars a storm would not produce strong enough winds to tip over the MAV. Probably the biggest departure from reality in the movie.
@@willamtaft5899 His plan wouldn't have worked. The dust storm had destroyed visibility, and they would have had to blow the nose airlock just to be able to access the top of the vehicle where the guy-lines would need to be connected. Maybe if they'd had more time...
@@wirebrushproductions1001 Yeah, it's a great movie, but every movie, no matter how good, requires a suspension of disbelief. If the story is good, that suspension is a lot easier.
22:50 Hexadecimal is a number system with 16 digits (the extra six digits use the first six letters of the alphabet). Computers store information in a related number system called binary, which has just two digits. Since 16 is 2 to the fourth power (2*2*2*2), four binary digits can instead be expressed as one hexadecimal digit (making it more concise). Computers store letters, numbers, and symbols by encoding them in sets of 8 binary digits, meaning that by transmitting codes in hexadecimal, every group of four digits can be converted to a letter.
One important thing to note is that there is a very widely known standard code for letters, called ASCII code, which assigns a known hexadecimal value to each letter, number and punctuation mark. By using a known standard, the guys on earth did not have to guess what he was doing.
If the commander didn’t launch and leave Mark behind, they all probably would have died. The storm was going to push their space ship over and wreck it, if they didn’t leave then they would be stuck on Mars too, and have much less time to survive because they would need a lot more food. Also, it’s really hard to reach Mars, you have to wait for the orbit of Mars to get close or it will take too long and when everything is right is still REALLY hard to get there. You can’t just leave Earth and go to Mars, it’s a lot more complicated than that. There’s absolutely no reason to be mad at the crew or commander, if they didn’t leave they would all be dead.
Not to mention that they believed his suit was breached, so even if they assumed he survived the hit, he would have been dead before they even found him.
@@weebleman6 Wow. So you think it’s absolutely ridiculous to care about a fictional story, get invested in the characters and events? Why read books? Why watch movies? What’s the point if none of it matters and it’s pointless, because it’s not real. Use your brain, she got mad at fictional characters, and I’m telling her why there was no reason to be mad. What do YOU think you’re adding to this, exactly? What is the purpose of your comment?
This story is unusual in that there are no villains in this movie. Everyone is trying for the best outcome given what they know at the time and what is physically possible. There are no bad guys.
In the storm at the beginning, the wind was blowing against the ship so hard that the ship was about to fall over, and then they would all have died. Also, if they were told he was still alive, they would have wanted to turn back and get him, but they would have run out of fuel before they could make it back to Earth, and again, they would all have died. There weren't really any evil people in this story, just people with different ideas for how to handle a very difficult situation.
If we should ever go to mars, luckily this wont be a real issue. The atmosphere is so thin (about 1% of earths atmosphere) that even any strong storm is relative harmless. One of the actual issues is the toxic sand, which is also why you wouldn't be able to grow potatoes just like that.
@@Astuga Those little tornadoes were supposed to be what cleaned off the solar panels on those rovers and kept them going years longer than expected, at least. The atmosphere is extremely thin but frequently turbulent, and without rain or other weather, the sand particles are probably like Moon dust, little razor blades that never had their edges smoothed by water flowing over them.
@@Subjectivity13 The sand is toxic because of perchlorate and clorate and is also electrostatically charged, which makes it stick to all surfaces. For everything else: mars . nasa . gov/news/1854/the-fact-and-fiction-of-martian-dust-storms/
No evil or bad people in the movie. Teddy the director of NASA has to make the big decisions without letting emotion take over. Any decision he makes still relies on some good luck because space expeditions are risky. A bad decision could cost lives and funding could be taken away for future missions.
One thing to understand is that is that signals travelling at light speed takes about 2.5 seconds from the moon, but it takes 20 minutes from mars. So it takes 40 minutes to send a message and then recieve one back. This is one of the reasons why a human mars mission is so difficult and why it's taking so long to do. The spacecraft departs Earth at a speed of about 24,600 mph (about 39,600 kph). The trip to Mars will take about seven months and about 300 million miles (480 million kilometers). The Mars rovers have amazing AI on board. The mission control guys can only tell the robot rover where they want it to go, then 20 minutes later it receives the command but has to find it's own way there avoiding boulders and craters. ✌❤🇬🇧
Ridley Scott is the Director also of Alien, Gladiator, Blade Runner, Thelma & Louise, Napoleon, Black Hawk down and many more. You had to watch them. P.S. You Ladies are wonderful.😍😍😍
As far as classic science-based fiction, (Sci-Fi not Space Fantasy), this has easily become one of my favorites. The sense of triumph against extreme odds, the emotional roller coaster of hope, defeat and eventual salvation, all make this a powerful movie while still maintaining certain levity and humor in the face of insurmountable obstacles.
My father is very old now, a retired factory worker and farmer, and as a hobby he grows potatoes and donates them to the local food bank. I don't think he's ever seen this movie, but I'm sure he'd admire Watney's determination and ingenuity.
@@moondog8353 I think he'd like that. I am such a cinephile that I'd love to have a reaction channel, but the editing and RU-vid copyright hassles are beyond my ability to navigate on my own.
These are hard decisions to make guys, no one is 'evil' or doesn't want to save Mark. Mars is really far away and you don't gamble other people's lives to save one easily. I wouldn't blame any of the astronauts if they didn't want to do another round trip, also if they rushed things then like you saw rockets tend to explode.
I love how you all don't try to shorten the time length of your reactions. So many others compress theirs and interesting scenes are left out. Kudos to you all, great reaction.
I probably need to explain that Watney's captain didn't want to leave him, but what would happen to the crew if the storm was strong enough to destroy the habitat (where they lived)? The director of NASA wants to save Watney, but he has to also manage the risks for all of NASA. Doing anything is not instantaneous, it is the end result of weeks, months, or even years of preparation. The NASA missions were planned years in advance. All the leadership positions in this movie have to keep in mind what can go WRONG.
Great reaction ladies! One of my favorite movies, I'm glad you watched it. I particularly liked when Tien said, "And this is why NASA doesn't like fire." I only wish Hella had been here to see this one!
Mark didnt really get left behind more like he was swept away. The crew had no choice to leave because the storm wouldve knocked down the only ship they left in. Commander Lewis his boss even stayed the longest they could before she had to make a judgement call, they had no choice but to push the button. It was mathematically impossible for mark to be saved in the beginning without all astronauts dying.
Chi, with all due respect, human beings cannot breathe on Mars. It has no breathable atmosphere. Earth is the only planet in our Solar System where this is possible, which is the main reason why they wear space suits. Anytime you see oxygen levels critical, like when his helmet is compromised, he is moments away from suffocating and dying. And as others have said, leaving him behind was the only call to make. He knows this, and that is why he is not upset with the crew. If they didn't take off when they did, they all could have been stranded there.
This is - without a doubt - the best Science Fiction movie to come out in the last 20 years. The premise is great, the casting and acting is phenomenal, and the science and tech behind it is actually rooted in our current reality and believable. Just a great flick all around, worthy of the same category as "Apollo 13".
I love when he finds Pathfinder, that rover is a real one that is in Mars right now. It's inactive now but including it in the movie was amazing. Makes the movie much more realistic. ❤
What you got to keep in mind about NASA and Teddy's character as the Director of NASA is that while it does fall under the US Government umbrella, it's still a civil public company, meaning that everything it does is released to the public and all of it's funding is approved by Congress. Which basically means that if there is no public support or any active public backlash (Example: Aftermath of the Challenger Disaster) than there is no money. NASA's budget last year was 25 billion dollars which is actually an increase of 5.6% from previous budgets. Now this increase could be attributed to the massive success of the James Webb launch and the increased public interest in space travel from the publicity from private space agencies in recent years. There are 149 active missions and 45 upcoming missions listed on NASA's website, and if that money disappears, so does all that work.
So I Googled this... Earth Atmosphere is around 78% Nitrogen and 21% Oxygen and 1% Argon. Mars is 95% carbon dioxide, 3% nitrogen and 1.6% argon, with only tiny amounts of oxygen, carbon monoxide, water and methane. The air pressure is almost non existent, only 0.65% that of Earth... almost a vacuum. When he cracks his visor, is a serious problem as he cannot breathe on Mars without the helmet.
Chi, Tien Pathfinder was an actual NASA Mars rover that launched back in 1996. Was designed to take photos of Mars and send them back to Earth. Mark took pathfinder in order to re-establish contact with NASA/Earth since his satellite dish was destroyed during the storm.
A storm on Mars isn't dangerous the way they portray in the movie. Even a wind of hundreds of kph wouldn't feel like much more than an Earth breeze, because Mars' atmosphere is so thin, that it has almost no force. The real danger of Martian dust storms is that the dust can sometimes be so fine as to get through airtight seals. Meaning it could get inside your suit, into equipment, and that can tear stuff up, particularly your lungs. Because it's so fine and so dry, it also tends to carry a static charge, which, if it gets in electronics, can completely ruin them. But the wind on Mars has zero chance of picking up a dish and blowing it around...even at its most powerful.
Mars atmosphere is VERY thin. It's made up of Carbon Dioxide, Nitrogen, and Argon (mostly). The maximum temperature on Mars is 70F/20C, but it can drop to -275F/-153C.
Lots of stuff missed. None of them are evil, thye had to leave, they thought he was dead, none of the people on base are evil, they're trying to make sure they have enough reason to believe he's alive instead of others things...
He made the water by burning rocket fuel. The chemical reactions that lauch most rockets have the end results of energy used for thrust, and water. So he needed to delicately burn the fuel slow enough to not explode to generate the water for his farm.
Mark Watney... Space Pirate!! Luv that line!! Chi I want you on my teams trip to Mars cause I know you won't leave me behind! Lol This movie is instantly a classic! Matt Damon does a great job at performing alone on Mars! As he says he just science the shizz out of it! The whole cast also made the movie great! So many famous names and all great actors! Great movie pick Chi you definitely have great taste in movies! Tien, You have wonderful input during the reaction and you are so beautiful! ❤️ I really enjoyed this reaction thanks for sharing girls! ❤️💛🟠
Ladies, ladies. They HAD to leave or they all would be stuck on Mars. Their ship was being toppled over. It was an OBVIOUS choice that was made, given the circumstances.
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About sending missions to Mars: to do it, you have to wait until Earth and Mars are the closest to each other that they can get, and that happens only once every two years because of how the two planets orbit the sun on different paths. Sending a mission outside of the closest the two planets can get means flying the spacecraft much, much farther, which also exposes the astronauts to much more radiation. Space ships do not protect against solar radiation.
Love it ladies........you two are as fun to watch as the movies are. This was a great movie full of great actors and directed by a great director, just one problem.....to much disco. 😂😂😂 thank you for bringing another happy smile to my face, and brightening my day. We just had the total solar eclipse a day ago. From my vantage point here in florida we had about 35% coverage, it was fun to see. We had one about 7 years ago also but now it will be 20 years before the US sees another one. My hometown and all my family were in the path of totality and got experience complete darkness in the middle of the day...they loved it of course. Millions of americans traveled to witness that as it crossed over about 10 states before reaching canada, it was like a holiday. Im rambling on now.....sorry. Sending ❤ from fla usa.
All the science in this movie is based on current knowledge except for one thing. I heard an interview the book's author and he said he took liberties with the storm at the start to set up the plot. In reality, the atmospheric pressure on Mars is so low that you'd hardly feel the effects of hurricane force winds.
The ship that Mark took into space was to be used by the Ares 4 mission. It was sent early and has been sitting there for a surprisingly long time waiting to be used at the completion of the Ares 4 mission to get back to the Hermes-like spacecraft. It sounds nutty but we are so poor at space flight we have to do it that way.
The reason the MAV is sent so early is because it makes fuel from the atmosphere while it waits and it takes a long time for that to happen. It's explained in the book.
Another great reaction girls, thank you!! 😎👍 Can't remember if I've suggested this one before but Ex Machina is one of my favourite movies and I'd love to see you watch it. It's brilliant! 😃
When this film came out, there was a lot of publicity about it being "scienc based, but the MOST GLARING problem with the movie is neveraddressed - the martian atmosphere is EXTREMELY thin. Not only would the strongest wind have little force on the lander, but it would be impossible to grow anything on the surface without highly compressing the gases. There may have been enough air density at the bottom of 'the crack', but even that's doubtful. Then again, while the original story it's based on was a darn good read back in the day, almost nothing was known about mars, and the supposition of an earthlike atmosphere was a big part of the survival story, and it's hard to work around that plot hole.
I saw this movie in a sold out theater. I got a aisle seat, but gave it to a Persian/Arabic woman because her daughter was afraid. If a little one is scared a man should do what they can.
Sometimes i wonder how you have troubles following the plot, but then i remember how little i caught of the movies i watched when i learned new languages, in spite of being able to speak them. I understood even less, when the topic was new to me and i lacked basic understanding of it... It's so easy to forget.
I think a big part of it is that they choose to talk when there is dialogue in the movie. I would imagine that they would figure out that their English is not that good, and therefore would pay attention to the dialogue and make their comments when there isn't any dialogue.. I've witnessed them miss major movie plotlines because they've decided their comments are more important than the key dialogues in the movie.
@@Zyxi7 i am also wondering how some school knowledge is missing. no breathable athmosphere on mars , making H20 from H2 and O2. Time spans and complexity of space travel, limitations due to weight and fuel. The absurd costs of it, and how one little change in plans can easily end up killing the entire team. I'll just categorize this as them being in "social mode" rather than analytic mode. And having little experience with sci fi and interest in space travel.
Great movie. Great reaction. FYI, that atmosphere of Mars is about 1% of Earth and mostly carbon dioxide. The Mars atmosphere will not sustain life - at least not human life.
The ship they left the planet on, took them to the bigger ship. If if they would have tried to wait for the storm to go away stop it could have knocked the escape ship over and no one would have been able to leave
I don't know how the film makers missed such an obvious error in scientific understanding, after getting the more complicated things in this movie correct. Mars has very low air pressure, like outer space. If Mark's HAB shelter breaches, he would EXPLODE, not implode (as he says in the film). You could implode on a planet like Venus because it has very high surface air pressure. It would be a lot like that experimental submarine with the billionaires on it that got crushed by the ocean pressure here on Earth recently.
Hello Chi & Tien!😊 You ladies look lovely as always! 🤍🖤 The U.S. military slogan "Improvise, adapt, and overcome" would seem to apply here for sure.😉 Tien was referring to a "Ouija Board" to talk to ghosts. Great reactions to this feel good film with everybody working on a common goal, Ladies!!!!🎬👏👏👏👏
11:11 "Oh. He has been here for a few days, already." "Sol" is what NASA calls the Martian "daily" cycle. On Earth, the daily cycle is called "a day." On Mars, it's called "a sol." The day is 24 hours. The sol, though, is closer to 24 hours, 39 minutes and 35 seconds. Now the screen print had been "sol 36." That means Dr. Watney has been doing this for 36 sol cycles of 24 hours, 39 minutes and 35 seconds each.
You asked about the atmosphere on Mars. Mars is a much smaller planet than the earth, and it does not have a heavy core, like the earth does. The atmosphere on Mars is about one percent as dense as earth atmosphere, and most of what is there is carbon dioxide. Mars is cold, and there is nothing to breathe - so it is a place where humans can't live outside at all without a space suit. Also, radiation from the sun is much worse on Mars, because the thin atmosphere does not protect Mars from the radiation. So, living on the surface of Mars would expose you to very unsafe levels of radiation if you were there for a long time. If we lived on Mars, probably we would have to build homes underground for protection.
The atmosphere of Mars is definitely not breathable for humans. It is mainly formed by carbon dioxide (CO2), which makes up 96% of its entire composition. Other gases are also found in much smaller quantities, such as nitrogen and argon.
I read the book and got the Audiobook for my daily commute before the movie came out. The Audiobook has Excellent voice acting. Both have way more Comedy and Wise Ass Cracks in them. Spoiler Alert - Mark did Not do the Iron Man thing shown in the movie. One of the crew went and grabbed him from the module. Get the Book or Tape, the movie was good but they're way better!
This is a legitimate scenario that may actually happen some time in the future. Mars could be terraformed to Earth standards, but that would take a long time so colonies and small expeditions would be more feasible and cost less money.
Hi girls it takes 20 minutes for a radio message to travel from Mars to Earth so just imagine how frustrating it would be trying to have a conversation. You send a message it takes 20 minutes to get to Earth then someone on Earth writes a reply it takes another 20 minutes for it to get from Earth to Mars so that is a 40+ minute wait in between messages. Loved your reaction you are doing a great job.👍🏻👍🏻
Working in space and military has similar parallels. Emotions are usually something that is best avoided or can disrupt a team or accolmplishing the goal. Astronauts know that their personal feelings for each other are always secondary to their own survival and that of the crew. So in a real life situation in a combat zone or space, trying to save one person if it risks the entire team is usually not chosen.
9:33 "So I got to figure out a way to grow three years worth of food here." 🤔If... everything goes perfectly well with NASA. But of course, _nothing_ ever goes perfectly. Inevitably, there are unforeseen _complications._ Like with cars, on the road. You don't _plan_ to need a spare tire, but you make it a point to _carry_ one because of unforeseen _complications._ Or like with _package_ shipping. If all the data you have tells you that a given package should reach its intended destination within _three_ days, you plan for it to arrive in _five_ days because of unforeseen _complications._ It seems safe to assume there will be unforeseen _complications_ with NASA's rescue mission, so give yourself a safety margin. Don't focus on figuring out how you're going to grow _three_ years worth of food. Focus on how you're going to grow four or _five._
Hands down best reaction channel out there. Absolutely love your content ladies. Love the mixture of femininity and cute accent, love how smart you laides are and as someone who is also learning English as a 2nd language I absolutely love listening to your english and how you are not afraid to use difficult words
